Fungi vs. haste item for monk?

[Selene]

I'm pretty poor as I have my money and time split amongst several alts, but I have a choice to make for my 52 human monk (no, i will never go iksar): should I farm some more and then spend all my plat on blue for a fungi or just spend what i have on a spiked seahorse hide belt (34% haste)? I have the silver chitin hand wraps and no epic.

I use my mage to drop transfer 10 slot weightless bags of bandages, throwing knives, dispel sticks, ultravision necklace, food/water, etc. It's a really nice way to solo thus far from 1-52. I feel like a fungi wouldn't really change the capabilities on my monk, given that bind wound gets me up to 75% hp really quick. But an upgraded haste from 22% to 34% might just change what i can solo without an epic. It would be a big investment of all my plat so thought i'd ask. Thank you all

[DeathsSilkyMist]

What weapons do you have?

[Jimjam]

How much hp do you lose per fight and how long does the fight last?

[Crede]

I'm pretty poor as I have my money and time split amongst several alts, but I have a choice to make for my 52 human monk (no, i will never go iksar): should I farm some more and then spend all my plat on blue for a fungi or just spend what i have on a spiked seahorse hide belt (34% haste)? I have the silver chitin hand wraps and no epic.

I use my mage to drop transfer 10 slot weightless bags of bandages, throwing knives, dispel sticks, ultravision necklace, food/water, etc. It's a really nice way to solo thus far from 1-52. I feel like a fungi wouldn't really change the capabilities on my monk, given that bind wound gets me up to 75% hp really quick. But an upgraded haste from 22% to 34% might just change what i can solo without an epic. It would be a big investment of all my plat so thought i'd ask. Thank you all

My order would be epic > Fungi > Tstaff > finish off haste

[Selene]

I use stave of shielding and adamantite club because I like dual wielding. I do have an imbued fighters staff.

if only the epic were attainable for me lol.

In most places I solo in, fights last about 1-2 minutes (lower guk, grobb, sol b, etc). I usually lose anywhere between 50-75% of my hp depending on the mob, sometimes less than that if im lucky. but bind wound with limitless bandages works wonders

[Crede]

I use stave of shielding and adamantite club because I like dual wielding. I do have an imbued fighters staff.

if only the epic were attainable for me lol.

In most places I solo in, fights last about 1-2 minutes (lower guk, grobb, sol b, etc). I usually lose anywhere between 50-75% of my hp depending on the mob, sometimes less than that if im lucky. but bind wound with limitless bandages works wonders

Try using ifs more you will take less ripostes and should lead to less downtime in theory. Tstaff stun might be a decent investment it’s really nice

[Toxigen]

Try using ifs more you will take less ripostes and should lead to less downtime in theory. Tstaff stun might be a decent investment it’s really nice

Mostly agree with Crede across these elfsim forums.

100% use your IFS. It will "feel" bad at times, but just trust us. You're going to take FAR less damage and actually dish out more over time. You'll kill more mobs per hour and thats the name of the game for you right now.

Where I disagree is the T staff value. Not worth the money unless you're flush with cash and already have epic + fungi + 34% (or better) haste. IFS is all you need.

Now, the question of fungi vs better haste is an interesting one. I think if you're the type of player that AFKs frequently while solo then haste is the answer. If you find yourself coming back to your computer / character and you've been at 100% hp for a while, that play style will be wasted on a fungi. More haste, kill moar merbs quicker before your next AFK.

However, if you're constantly just waiting on your HP bar to get healthy for that next mob, then a fungi is your best bet. Fungi is the clear choice for a more active, less AFK play style.

Lastly, as Crede said, epic really is your ultimate best option, but if you have no help and a fungi is going to break your bank account, then it isn't a realistic goal for now. This may seem insane but you could make a 2nd character, a caster class that interests you and is cheap to gear, and level that one strictly on the basis of farming plat for your monk epic. Gives you a break from the monk and when you return to it, you'll be ballin.

I think you could hire a crew to do all the group stuff for about 100k and a lot of guilds would take a charity Gwan kill task during their sky slot.

[Croco]

I use stave of shielding and adamantite club because I like dual wielding. I do have an imbued fighters staff.

if only the epic were attainable for me lol.

In most places I solo in, fights last about 1-2 minutes (lower guk, grobb, sol b, etc). I usually lose anywhere between 50-75% of my hp depending on the mob, sometimes less than that if im lucky. but bind wound with limitless bandages works wonders

Monk epic is probably the easiest one of all. Even for an unguilded monk on p99 it's pretty attainable. You can camp raster on your own but might need some help with targin and once you get your robe of the lost circle you have a few options. You can try to camp the pipes yourself, or spend some time farming plat to buy a MQ. My 2 favorite plat farming spots for a monk are high keep guards or crystal caverns geos.

Once you're able to get your next robe the final 4 fights are easy and fast. I see people post on here a lot asking for help and there never seems to be a shortage of people who are willing to lend a hand.

[Toxigen]

Monk epic is probably the easiest one of all. Even for an unguilded monk on p99 it's pretty attainable. You can camp raster on your own but might need some help with targin and once you get your robe of the lost circle you have a few options. You can try to camp the pipes yourself, or spend some time farming plat to buy a MQ. My 2 favorite plat farming spots for a monk are high keep guards or crystal caverns geos.

Once you're able to get your next robe the final 4 fights are easy and fast. I see people post on here a lot asking for help and there never seems to be a shortage of people who are willing to lend a hand.

Yeah probably easiest to hang out in KC for that pipe and then buy the chardok MQ.

[Ripqozko]

Literally just join kittens and spam zumbutu until you get epic , you are welcome.

[Barlu]

My order would be epic > Fungi > Tstaff > finish off haste
Usually agree with Crede here as well but a long time ago at 52 on my monk I sold my fungi and bought Demon fang loot rights with the plat. I felt like I solo’d far worse with the epic than I did with the fungi. Can’t remember exactly what I was using for weapons but I think it was either IFS or Epic/SoS.

If I were you I’d keep the fungi and do as others have suggested and try to get your epic. The first 3 fights are easy duos and the final fight you can probably post here asking for help and drum up enough support to get Xenovorash dead. Fungi, Epic, IFS and pretty much any haste is good enough to solo to 60 on a monk.

[Barlu]

Sorry for double post but I think this is especially true with a human rather than iksar. The fungi is going to help even more since you are missing out on the extra regen.

[Keebz]

+1 to everything the others said, but to answer the original question, Fungi > +12% haste.

If it were me, I'd probably use the plat for Chardok Pipe MQ and get your epic. After grinding out a few more levels, you can always camp your own fungi—just bring a few friends (namely, a chanter + cleric). It's a fun pull, and I'd be happy to explain it.

EDIT: If you'd rather just grind on your mage to fund your monk's fungi, that's a very obtainable approach, but way less fun imho.

[Snaggles]

The fungi is better than it looks because it’s not just the regen during the fight but while running around and splitting.

Ideally you are going to kill npcs that dont take 90% of your hps so the difference between even a FBSS and quality haste while noticeably better shouldn’t be make or break. 16% more haste is a 8% swing speed delay reduction (100% haste = 50% reduction in delay).

[Pint]

Get the fungi

[Cecily]

9000 HP per hour vs 36% haste. Depends. I'm finding in group situations, where I'm tanking, I'm way preferring a high AC / HP chest. A fungi would provide an extra equivalent to 3/4 complete heals an hour. I'd rather mitigate more damage, proc more, and have more strength. Killing a thing faster is also a great way to stop damage, so consider that. Fungi super super good for solo and still pretty good grouping. If you're tanking, I feel it becomes redundant with a healer and would rather speed up kills.

tl;dr: Fungi is overall better. Get that and budget haste/epic.

[Trelaboon]

Monk epic is probably the easiest one of all. Even for an unguilded monk on p99 it's pretty attainable. You can camp raster on your own but might need some help with targin and once you get your robe of the lost circle you have a few options. You can try to camp the pipes yourself, or spend some time farming plat to buy a MQ. My 2 favorite plat farming spots for a monk are high keep guards or crystal caverns geos.

Once you're able to get your next robe the final 4 fights are easy and fast. I see people post on here a lot asking for help and there never seems to be a shortage of people who are willing to lend a hand.

That’s exactly what I did when I did mine. I was in a very small friends guild at the time and just reached out to the community for help and lots of people turned out to lend a hand. I find you can get lots of people to help in here because so many are just looking for something fun to do.

[Bardp1999]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Haste_Guide

Until you are 55, with enchanter haste you are near enough haste caped anyways. Even 55-60, i mean nothing beats a fungi.

Fungi changes what you can do. 80% haste to 95% haste doesnt

[jolanar]

When I was leveling my monk, which was my first character so I had limited plat, I sold my fungi to buy my epic and I have absolutely zero regrets.

Logically the fungi is the better choice, but nothing compares to having your epic. Killing things 40% faster also means you take 40% less damage when soloing. Plus having the spell haste lets you farm a lot faster.

Now if the choice is fungi vs worn haste, fungi 100% of the time and then just grab SCHW.

[wagorf]

not only fungi does have more impact, it also retains value way better than seahorse belt

there is a reason many lvl 60 monks still wear fungi

[darkreap]

If epic is out, robe of the whistling fists would be a good option. Just swap in for haste click and back to fungi. Kinda a pita but if you’re worried about haste, this is an additional 25%