Ebon Mace, Argnet Protector, or Noct blade for 30+?

[ya.dingus]

I do a lot of soloing, some small groups (I dont like being social much other than with people i know)

What's a good setup I'm looking for here between 1h/shield or 2h?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Argent Protector, since 2h weapon bonus is better than 1h, and ratio is better too. Most solo/group content for XP purposes isn't going to really require sword and board, especially at your level range. Mobs are just going to melt anyway.

2h is also better for fear kiting since it's slower, so you have less chance for missing a swing when chasing enemies. Fear kiting is the best way to deal with casters, it's more consistent than bash. Not saying you shouldn't eventually get a 1h/shield setup to bash if you aren't a Troll/Ogre, but it isn't really a priority if your strapped for cash.

[Crede]

I do a lot of soloing, some small groups (I dont like being social much other than with people i know)

What's a good setup I'm looking for here between 1h/shield or 2h?

Ebon mace for group & random solo stuff you need magic for & reaver for everything else(swap out reaver for lance at 55). Or just get a lance & skip reaver because ebon mace will have no issues taking you to 55 but reaver is really fun starting at lvl 30.

[ya.dingus]

Ebon mace for group & random solo stuff you need magic for & reaver for everything else(swap out reaver for lance at 55). Or just get a lance & skip reaver because ebon mace will have no issues taking you to 55 but reaver is really fun starting at lvl 30.

I deleted all my stuff on blue and started fresh on green. Most of my money generation currently is from paineel guards.

I'm 22 currently.

[Keebz]

Shard of night is in the game and dirt cheap. I'd just use that until reaver or lance at 55 or raid loot.

[Encroaching Death]

2 Hander for soloing past 30. Argent Protector is great for that.

Ebon Mace for grouping. In my opinion.

[ya.dingus]

Shard of night is in the game and dirt cheap. I'd just use that until reaver or lance at 55 or raid loot.

Is that going to scale well into 55-60?

Reason being, I guess now 2h damage scales more with the delay ?

[Encroaching Death]

Is that going to scale well into 55-60?

Reason being, I guess now 2h damage scales more with the delay ?

Yes, 2 handers scale better now. It's better to solo with one.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Is that going to scale well into 55-60?

Reason being, I guess now 2h damage scales more with the delay ?

You want a good 2h weapon. Shard of night is 0.018 better than Argent Protector ratio-wise, but you get a bigger damage bonus with Argent Protector. Plus you are taking less riposte damage.

[Crede]

Is that going to scale well into 55-60?

Reason being, I guess now 2h damage scales more with the delay ?

If you aren’t a race that can slam, and if you can’t get epic/not twinked , then I’d probably stick with a 1h until 60 because you’re going to want to fear kite eventually and bash/slam makes this much more tolerable. If you’re an ogre/troll then just go 2h and don’t look back.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If you aren’t a race that can slam, and if you can’t get epic/not twinked , then I’d probably stick with a 1h until 60 because you’re going to want to fear kite eventually and bash/slam makes this much more tolerable. If you’re an ogre/troll then just go 2h and don’t look back.

That is a good point, Bash is great for fear kiting if you have a short runway. The stun reduces the mob's total run distance. Howling Stones north ramp is a good example where that is necessary. So to some degree the decision could be swayed by what camps you plan on Fear Kiting at.

[Keebz]

I'm like a broken record when it comes to the advantages of a 2her, but people are over thinking it. With Shard, you'll cruise through the levels and by 46 you'll be fear kiting anyway. I'd just start grinding then pick up a Reaver whenever you find one—since they are significantly rarer. Between the two, you get a 1h and 2h and a magic weapon. This will take you all the way to 60 or you grab a Narandi's/raid weapon along the way.

Argent Protector is just kind of a mediocre option. Ebon Mace/Noct blade are just worse Shard's of Night. Another viable option is to just stick to non-magic mobs and use a Reaver (e.g. live in HHK).

[Crede]

I'm like a broken record when it comes to the advantages of a 2her, but people are over thinking it. With Shard, you'll cruise through the levels and by 46 you'll be fear kiting anyway. I'd just start grinding then pick up a Reaver whenever you find one—since they are significantly rarer. Between the two, you get a 1h and 2h and a magic weapon. This will take you all the way to 60 or you grab a Narandi's/raid weapon along the way.

Argent Protector is just kind of a mediocre option. Ebon Mace/Noct blade are just worse Shard's of Night. Another viable option is to just stick to non-magic mobs and use a Reaver (e.g. live in HHK).

It’s worth noting that the shard looks like shit with a shield.

[Encroaching Death]

It’s worth noting that the shard looks like shit with a shield.

It's a shame too.

Such a sick weapon and it looks like a Rusty Dagger.

[Toxigen]

just save for argent protector

[Snaggles]

I’d have a 1h/shield for groups and a 2h for solo. The dps on a good 1h outside maybe ToV stuff with procs is very low. I’d prob go Noc or Ebon on cost alone, a reaver if you can afford it.

If grouped it’s more the bash for interrupting casters than mitigation. It’s a tanking mini-game to help pass the time.

[ya.dingus]

Ya think i've decided to go with noct blade, fbss, and atra shield in that order. They're cheaper to get started, so it'll give me a bit more dps to start saving for that argent protector.

after that i'll go argent protector or reaver.

Should be a nice progression curve if I can stick with it. I was looking at the 2h bonus chart, and you dont really start getting a lot of damage based on your delay until later levels.

[greatdane]

In terms of sheer bang for buck, Atramentous Shield is not worth it over Sarnak Battle Shield. It costs like 3-4 times as much and is only marginally better. Of course, if your finances let you think nothing of spending a few thousand on a shield, you're free to do so. It's just objectively not a good investment. They're also nearly impossible to sell again in case you get bored of the SK or upgrade to a different weapon configuration.

[Encroaching Death]

In terms of sheer bang for buck, Atramentous Shield is not worth it over Sarnak Battle Shield.

Depends on your race.

If you have natural Infravision already, I agree.

[Jimjam]

My sk slums it with a clay guardian shield.

[greatdane]

Depends on your race.

If you have natural Infravision already, I agree.

I mean, sure, if you're human.

Are we human? Or are we dancers?

[ya.dingus]

Depends on your race.

If you have natural Infravision already, I agree.

I'm a human baby. The fashionquest draw was too strong. I need that deadeye.

[Keebz]

It’s worth noting that the shard looks like shit with a shield.

If you don't like looking like shit, you're playing the wrong game. Reveling in the clown car look is the path to inner peace.

[greatdane]

Hey, now. I, for one, think that the only lore-appropriate choice for shadow knights (and paladins, but fuck 'em) is human. I once played on a game called TorilMUD where Brad McQuaid practically plagiarized everything from, but one of the few things he changed in the making of Everquest was to let non-human races be knights. In AD&D, upon which the game in question was based, only humans could be knights. He crudely and callously changed this. I reject that. It's foul. It's immoral. It mustn't be allowed to stand. I'm gonna have to go buy another six-pack if this keeps up.

[Snaggles]

I just dont think the bump from ebon to shard is huge, dps wise. The cost is much higher and selling it is a PITA. Eventually piecing caps lower too so that's like a 45attack difference.

Cheap 1h, Noc is like 1k and same skill as the sword of pain )nice junk buff and GCD). Or ebon mace for the same ratio and no Velks drama.

Focus your plat on the 2h.

[Toxigen]

1 handers are basically a waste of time outside of perhaps bashing a CHing or gating mob.

Hope this helps.

[Ripqozko]

1 handers are basically a waste of time outside of perhaps bashing a CHing or gating mob.

Hope this helps.

Yea basically, I used it 1-30, 2h after that less tanking something of note like hot

[Crede]

If you want to do close quarters fear kiting, you will want to bash. Which is basically how my sk soloed from 55-60.

[Encroaching Death]

I'm a human baby. The fashionquest draw was too strong. I need that deadeye.

Same here.

Humans all the way. Fuck the haters

[Crede]

Same here.

Humans all the way. Fuck the haters

Human necros are the best. Mine has gotten more compliments/haters than any other build.