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toast187
02-15-2023, 08:22 PM
Where are all the player gambling games that live had? It is not true classic eq until you play EQ gambling.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 08:24 PM
Used to be a thing here.

Went away for some reason.

evilwizard
02-15-2023, 09:11 PM
they banned them, probably because it was making it difficult to determine who is RMTing.

probably accidentally banned a bunch of players for RMT when they were just gambling...

Pootle
02-16-2023, 05:58 AM
Here's a quick life-hack tip...

If you have recently requested that a computer game should also include gambling... then there is a good chance you have an addiction and should probably talk to a professional about it.

Lifebar
02-16-2023, 11:29 AM
Where are all the player gambling games that live had? It is not true classic eq until you play EQ gambling.

Justice for Greengrocer.

Swish
02-16-2023, 05:32 PM
I'll tell you what tipped the staff over the edge, or it happened very close to this story...



Someone was running a 1/1000 chance to get a fungi, you could roll for 100pp and if you hit the lucky number the "dealer" was looking for, you won yourself a fungi!

Players who might not have even had the fungi were gambling that people wouldn't hit, and when someone did... and the "dealer" inevitably had "connection issues" and thats a whole headache/petition/RMT concern/etc.

So yeah, no gambling. Nilbog did at one stage think about adding a casino bot, to help as a platsink as much as anything else... but it was before Velious was completely released, not classic, effort required, didn't happen for many reasons (yet).

Trexller
02-19-2023, 01:02 AM
Here's a quick life-hack tip...

If you have recently requested that a computer game should also include gambling... then there is a good chance you have an addiction and should probably talk to a professional about it.

camping a mob with a % chance to spawn is gambling

Duik
02-19-2023, 05:42 AM
Walkin across da road in peekhour traffic is also gambling.
But at least i might loot 14sp and a cloth cap in fungi camp...

Sweagen
02-19-2023, 08:00 PM
Rolling is already a form of gambling and it’s pretty normal and agreed upon in most groups as the standard way to distribute loot

Swish
02-19-2023, 08:15 PM
Rolling is already a form of gambling and it’s pretty normal and agreed upon in most groups as the standard way to distribute loot

You could just do "fastest looter gets" I suppose.

Tethler
02-20-2023, 12:26 AM
peekhour traffic

What is this? Is that where you watch traffic for an hour, but just a little bit at a time?

Valakut
03-03-2023, 08:53 AM
3 words

kings court casino

ScottBerta
03-05-2023, 12:22 AM
The reason no gambling as stated earlier is because it was a way to try and hide RMTing.

Samoht
03-05-2023, 02:50 PM
Beyond the implications of RMT, most in game casinos are scammers that quit out the second they lose big. There's no enforcement or oversight. It's a dumb concept.

DeathsSilkyMist
03-05-2023, 03:33 PM
Beyond the implications of RMT, most in game casinos are scammers that quit out the second they lose big. There's no enforcement or oversight. It's a dumb concept.

Agreed. The only way to make casinos viable would be to add some sort of gameplay system where the owner of the casino is required to put the plat somewhere that they cannot take it back out while gambling is going on. That's not going to happen on P99.

Castle2.0
03-05-2023, 04:35 PM
Simple: scammers & RMT.

If we decided to go the custom-content / non-classic route, the only casino we need is plat-sink to buy tickets for legacy/unique items all no-drop.

Ennewi
03-05-2023, 07:41 PM
There was mention of possibly adding in NPC versions in High Keep which would could be offered large sums of coin in exchange for a chance at rare nodrop/legacy items, but that was years back and seemed to lose traction.

Swish
03-05-2023, 08:18 PM
Some kind of platsink wouldn't be a bad idea.

Not classic of course.

Gustoo
03-05-2023, 10:06 PM
They banned casinos because it made it harder to track RMT transactions.

There used to be a guild called Casino my character on blue was Jawnie in casino and my honest gambling and item transfer services bought me a couple level 60 accounts when accounts used to be sellable for plat in free er better times. RIP classic blue 99

Gustoo
03-05-2023, 10:07 PM
Plat sink is a no brainer to remove plat from game. As seen in Bazaar you could probably just use that whole NPC and mechanic assuming it exists on eq emu elsewhere already

Swish
03-06-2023, 03:38 AM
...bought me a couple level 60 accounts when accounts used to be sellable for plat in free er better times. RIP classic blue 99

Yeah I paid for a bunch of gear on what would be my first remaining main account on blue with a sold account. No $ profit made, just in game plat which helped me with items for my main cleric.

Looking back, doing it seems unthinkable :p

arc
03-07-2023, 04:08 AM
You could just do "fastest looter gets" I suppose.

FTL

Gustoo
03-18-2023, 08:24 PM
Yeah I paid for a bunch of gear on what would be my first remaining main account on blue with a sold account. No $ profit made, just in game plat which helped me with items for my main cleric.

Looking back, doing it seems unthinkable :p

it’s like america pre and post 911 in the level of woah this is a lot less fun because we gotta fight terrorists (rmt) now.

socialist
03-22-2023, 10:44 AM
camping a mob with a % chance to spawn is gambling

No it isn't. It's playing the game as intended, as the developers designed it. It's no different from playing Hearthstone and hoping for a good topdeck. It's gambling when you roll dice (or some similar random event) to see whether you win or lose money. Camping a mob is not gambling by any reasonable interpretation of the word.

Tnair
03-22-2023, 04:40 PM
Turtle WoW added in-world cryptocurrency if you need more gambling in your 20-yr old fantasy mmo

Lifebar
03-23-2023, 09:27 AM
You ain't gambling till you get your meat spun.

Tnair
03-23-2023, 01:55 PM
No it isn't. It's playing the game as intended, as the developers designed it. It's no different from playing Hearthstone and hoping for a good topdeck. It's gambling when you roll dice (or some similar random event) to see whether you win or lose money. Camping a mob is not gambling by any reasonable interpretation of the word.

It kinda is though, via random-ratio operant conditioning. Both situations have you knowingly rolling a random outcome (killing mob for specific loot) that you intellectually know is stacked against you but feels all the more emotionally rewarding for being a lucky find

http://www.nickyee.com/eqt/skinner.html

killerbeebs
03-30-2023, 09:17 AM
Should give Shady Swashbuckler a random legacy item for a random 1m - 2millon plat each draft season

Potus
03-30-2023, 11:00 PM
3 words

kings court casino

Would drop so much plat on a chance to get a manastone or a pre-nerf fungi staff.

Trexller
03-31-2023, 12:22 AM
we know the code exists for sure and would be reasonably easy to implement because Shadow Haven had a casino NPC

Gustoo
04-04-2023, 08:09 PM
It’s a smart way to fight inflation and they could even return plat drops to classic like on rathe mountains giants. Nerf version is sad it used to be such a chill place to kill giants for plat

Arvan
04-04-2023, 08:27 PM
Just make gambling a gm event

Trelaboon
04-06-2023, 06:34 AM
Where are all the player gambling games that live had? It is not true classic eq until you play EQ gambling.

I lost so much plat on live gambling lol.

Gustoo
04-06-2023, 09:56 AM
Previously allowed, as per classic. Now banned to make it easier to fight RMT

Kyb
06-29-2023, 08:28 AM
Quite interesting information, thank you! Something to think about

richard44
07-06-2023, 03:53 AM
thanks

Xitayasl
04-18-2024, 04:05 PM
I'll tell you what tipped the staff over the edge, or it happened very close to this story...



Someone was running a 1/1000 chance to get a fungi, you could roll for 100pp and if you hit the lucky number the "dealer" was looking for, you won yourself a fungi!

Players who might not have even had the fungi were gambling that people wouldn't hit, and when someone did... and the "dealer" inevitably had "connection issues" and thats a whole headache/petition/RMT concern/etc.

So yeah, no gambling except for a safe website (https://slotocash.casinologin.mobi/) where I occasionally entertain myself. Nilbog did at one stage think about adding a casino bot, to help as a platsink as much as anything else... but it was before Velious was completely released, not classic, effort required, didn't happen for many reasons (yet).

The reluctance to add an official gambling feature due to these difficulties is understandable. Balancing the desire to offer interesting content and features with maintaining a fair, safe and enjoyable gaming environment is a constant challenge for game developers

cd288
04-18-2024, 05:18 PM
The reluctance to add an official gambling feature due to these difficulties is understandable. Balancing the desire to offer interesting content and features with maintaining a fair, safe and enjoyable gaming environment is a constant challenge for game developers

Would be cool if it got added eventually. I remember Brad (I think it was Brad) saying in an interview that they had wanted to add gambling NPCs to the casino rooms on the second floor in Highkeep but never got around to it (I think the quote is in the IRC logs thread that's currently going in the Screenshots forum). So technically you could argue it was a planned classic feature that they never got around to.

Sonark
04-21-2024, 04:29 PM
So technically you could argue it was a planned classic feature that they never got around to.There's literally a casino in Luclin.