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Botten
02-13-2023, 09:14 AM
Ohio catastrophe is ‘wake-up call’ to dangers of deadly train derailments

About 5000 affected by this derailment. Phosgene was carried on the train and it has mixed with hydrogen to create Phosgene which if breathed in can cause a host of problems resulting in death.

There was a small explosion from the train but it was contained.

Residents in a 10 mile radius of the crash around East Palestine were evacuated.

Residents return to find their animals dead on their farms.

Phosgene and hydrogen chloride plume across the region is highly toxic. There is more concern that this gas will seeps into the ground, crops and river water that heads towards the Mississippi River will be affected.

Phosgene oxime does not last in the environment for very long. It breaks down in soil within 2 hours when temperatures are normal, and it breaks down in water within a few days. (https://emergency.cdc.gov/agent/phosgene-oxime/basics/facts.asp)

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 09:50 AM
Residents in a 10 mile radius of the crash around East Palestine were evacuated.



Well now we know the motive....

Toxigen
02-13-2023, 12:41 PM
yeah may as well ban trains now too right?

Botten
02-13-2023, 12:52 PM
yeah may as well ban trains now too right?

Just the opposite invest in them.

Pour money into them to make them more efficient than they already are.

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 01:35 PM
Just the opposite invest in them.

Pour money into them to make them more efficient than they already are.

lol

4 trillion to the 1% in the last 2 years is not enough for these psycopaths.

Ooloo
02-13-2023, 01:41 PM
It seems weird that trains seem to de-rail more often than planes crash. And when they do, they're always full of some hilariously dangerous combination of chemicals.

Reminds me of that huge explosion in beirut a couple years ago. Like, oops! Turns out we were storing 5000 tons of ammonium nitrate inside the fireworks factory! What a bonehead move!

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 01:43 PM
America:

Our trains are derailing

Our bridges are collapsing

Our manufacturing is gone

Our workers are revolting

Our education is a disaster

Our healthcare is a joke

Our stock market is fixed

Our currency is made up

And the only value we offer: hollywood, has dried up.

So we gotta invest in something because our goverment is trying to go to war with china

Basanos
02-13-2023, 01:48 PM
lol

4 trillion to the 1% in the last 2 years is not enough for these psycopaths.Union workers warned about this kind of thing specifically. Welcome to the exact form of capitalism guys like Trump and Biden will guarantee you. Let me guess, when morons on the right somehow realize this what their efforts get them, it will suddenly be "making it political"

In a statement, Candace Wagner, the 2022 Socialist Workers Party candidate for governor of Pennsylvania, who is also a freight rail conductor and member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen union based in Pittsburgh, 40 miles from East Palestine, said:

“The most recent derailment in Ohio is a reflection of the dangerous working conditions facing rail workers and all those living in the communities alongside the tracks.

“The rail bosses, backed by the federal government, refused to address any safety or other substantive issues raised by rail workers through our unions in the recent national rail negotiations.

“In their lust for profits, the railroad bosses are running increasingly long, heavy trains and pushing on rail workers smaller crews, arbitrary schedules, longer shifts and more work than ever before. Massive cuts have been made in the operating crafts, car inspectors, mechanical and maintenance of way workforces. All this leads to derailments like this, which show that to protect rail workers and all those living near the tracks, our unions need to fight for workers control of production.

“We need measures like a limit of 50 cars per train; a minimum crew of four with two on the head end and two in a caboose or engine on the rear. The state authorities declared a state of emergency in the East Palestine area. Thousands have been evacuated near the derailment. No one knows the long-term effects of this incident on the health of the workers involved, the local residents, and on the air, soil and water.

“A capitalist government functions to guarantee profits for the bosses, facilitating their power to exploit workers’ labor. This is their job, not taking steps to develop the railroads or any other industry to advance the needs of society. For workers, union power and class independence becomes a precondition not only to take control over safety but to organize freight and passenger transportation not for profit, but to meet the needs of workers and farmers.

“We need to build a labor party based on our unions to unite all those exploited and oppressed by capital to organize effective solidarity with union and social struggles and fight to take political power into our own hands.”

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 01:51 PM
The fucking union workers got busted by a democrat dont come lecturing to me, boy.

Now they want yet ANOTHER big check to write the 1%

get.

fucked.

Id rather the workers drove trains throught the fuckn walls and made the people we'd "invest in" pay for rebuilding their empire out of pocket.

https://i.imgur.com/f1bbz24.gif

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 01:54 PM
First arrest all the rail owners for letting their rail collapse.

THEN

we can talk about writing their replacements, checks.

Toxigen
02-13-2023, 01:59 PM
got the ayn rand feels

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 02:00 PM
Imagine busting a union for a november election, then trying to say you want to give the owners more money 4 months later.

I would rather nuke democrats myself than keep waiting.

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 02:08 PM
Union workers warned about this kind of thing specifically.

Why does it read like a threat?

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 02:11 PM
The crash is ironic

Or do I mean suspicious?

:D

https://i.imgur.com/y8ZDCWM.png

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 02:17 PM
Why does it read like a threat?

That's the basic transaction isn't it? "Give us more of our demands and less trains will crash. "

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 02:18 PM
ohio train workers: Whoopsie doodle.

btw when the reports of rivers flowing red with dead fish hits the news cycle right when the book of revelations says it will, I'm gonna say told ya so.

:o

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 02:24 PM
"Give us more of our demands and less trains will crash. "

Isn't that what a Union does though?

It's just legal extortion.

Toxigen
02-13-2023, 02:28 PM
Hank Rearden would fix this.

Jobaber
02-13-2023, 02:31 PM
Who wants to bet this train derailment is part of operation dragon?

What's operation dragon you might ask? Well that's just the secret world wide billionaire terrorist organization orchestrating a global larp of the book of revelations, that's who.

Basanos
02-13-2023, 02:34 PM
The fucking union workers got busted by a democrat dont come lecturing to me, boy.

Now they want yet ANOTHER big check to write the 1%

get.

fucked.

Id rather the workers drove trains throught the fuckn walls and made the people we'd "invest in" pay for rebuilding their empire out of pocket.

https://i.imgur.com/f1bbz24.gifThe right fucked them, conservative mismanagement yet again.

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 05:35 PM
The right fucked them, conservative mismanagement yet again.

The CIA probably overthrew their Communist train conductor in a coup.

Duik
02-13-2023, 06:00 PM
I sure hope that Train Conductor was insulated.

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 08:24 PM
That's the basic transaction isn't it? "Give us more of our demands and less trains will crash. "

Self-correcting:

https://media.tenor.com/L5HlaoevVN0AAAAC/game-of-thrones-stannis.gif

Kaveh
02-13-2023, 09:38 PM
America:

Our trains are derailing

Our bridges are collapsing

Our manufacturing is gone

Our workers are revolting

Our education is a disaster

Our healthcare is a joke

Our stock market is fixed

Our currency is made up

And the only value we offer: hollywood, has dried up.

So we gotta invest in something because our goverment is trying to go to war with china

I really enjoyed top gun maverick

mcoy
02-13-2023, 10:06 PM
Hank Rearden would fix this.

Tonight on Tucker:

Who is John Galt?

-Mcoy

Basanos
02-13-2023, 10:16 PM
Why does it read like a threat?I sure as hell hope not, I live less than 2000 feet from a freight line myself :o

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 10:47 PM
Tonight on Tucker:

Who is John Galt?

-Mcoy

Mcoy is John Galt?

Encroaching Death
02-13-2023, 10:48 PM
I sure as hell hope not, I live less than 2000 feet from a freight line myself :o

There will be some sacrifices for the cumminist revolution

Basanos
02-13-2023, 11:12 PM
There will be some sacrifices for the cumminist revolutionI like the train noises. I grew up in a town with train noises, this town has them too.

aussenseiter
02-13-2023, 11:16 PM
I like the train noises. I grew up in a town with train noises, this town has them too.

ppEfGIGVteo

Lune
02-14-2023, 08:55 AM
a lot of dumb cunts in this thread who dont realize regulations are written in blood and are what separate us from the turks

Basanos
02-14-2023, 10:22 AM
a lot of dumb cunts in this thread who dont realize regulations are written in blood and are what separate us from the turksBillionaires spend a lot of money to train their legion of conservative supporters to either misinterpret or completely ignore structural flaws

MrSparkle001
02-14-2023, 10:42 AM
https://i.imgur.com/TTrP4uH.png

Toxigen
02-14-2023, 11:35 AM
can i get a tldr pls

Basanos
02-14-2023, 11:37 AM
can i get a tldr plsJoe Biden acted like the Republican he really is and now a bunch of working class people are in danger

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 11:44 AM
Joe Biden acted like the Republican he really is and now a bunch of working class people are in danger

"It wasn't REAL Communism!!"

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:23 PM
Joe Biden acted like the Republican he really is and now a bunch of working class people are in danger

Should have elected the guy that was going to overthrow this joke of a goverment.

Maybe you can get healthcare THIS time.

https://i.imgur.com/cJchVtU.png

NOPE!

More on war in 2 years than the last 20!

Smooth move with the votes and opinions.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 01:35 PM
Should have elected the guy that was going to overthrow this joke of a goverment.

Maybe you can get healthcare THIS time.

https://i.imgur.com/cJchVtU.png

NOPE!

More on war in 2 years than the last 20!

Smooth move with the votes and opinions.

yeah democrats might not all be stupid, but 100% of them can't tell the difference between emotions and reality.

if you aren't bleeding, then you aren't hurting, get up, unfuck yourself and go live a life, fuckin pussy ass snowflakes.

democrat = coward

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 01:46 PM
The problem is democrats would rather make trump the target of their problems, than their problems.

They vote for biden cus they hate trump, get more on war spending then 20 years of afghanstan, and shut down unions, massive inflation, zero healthcare reform, and massive profits for executives...

then they try to say trumpers are id pol voters.

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:11 PM
The problem is democrats would rather make trump the target of their problems, than their problems.

They vote for biden cus they hate trump, get more on war spending then 20 years of afghanstan, and shut down unions, massive inflation, zero healthcare reform, and massive profits for executives...

then they try to say trumpers are id pol voters.

What war?

US isn't in any new wars.

Hell the US hasn't really even given the tanks to Ukraine talked about in January. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-formally-requests-german-permission-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine-11674558492)

Crazy Jib

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 02:12 PM
What war?

US isn't in any new wars.

Hell the US hasn't really even given the tanks to Ukraine talked about in January. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/poland-formally-requests-german-permission-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine-11674558492)

Crazy Jib

We spent more on weapons of war in the last 1 year than we did in 20 years of afghanastan.

I hate you people, war isnt "white american boys dying" it's us manufacturing bullets and giving them to revolutionaries.

Botten
02-14-2023, 02:27 PM
We spent more on weapons of war in the last 1 year than we did in 20 years of afghanastan.

I hate you people, war isnt "white american boys dying" it's us manufacturing bullets and giving them to revolutionaries.

Pft... Military expenditures by the US during the Cold War were estimated to have been roughly 8-9 trillion dollars. And that wasn't a real war.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:34 PM
Pft... Military expenditures by the US during the Cold War were estimated to have been roughly 8-9 trillion dollars. And that wasn't a real war.

We were also a lot richer back then...with manufacturing, etc.

We're on par with the most recent Iraq war in terms of monthly spending.

So we're effectively at war, we're just not dying over there (yet)

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 02:36 PM
We were also a lot richer back then...with manufacturing, etc.

The world was in ashes. The thing about a dream is you eventually have to wake up.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 02:42 PM
The world was in ashes. The thing about a dream is you eventually have to wake up.

I'm sure the fact that China MAGICALLY became successful just after taking manufacturing away from us is pure coincidence.

You people act as if manufacturing for the entire world isn't majorly lucrative...

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:01 PM
Pft... Military expenditures by the US during the Cold War were estimated to have been roughly 8-9 trillion dollars. And that wasn't a real war.

How in the fuck can you possibly say that with your political alighment.

Please tell me you were pro IRAQ war and thought they had WMDs. PLEASE dont tell me you were against that war.

PLEASE dont tell me you think pulling out of Afghanastan was a good idea.

I can't live in a world with this kind of hypocrisy.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 03:04 PM
How in the fuck can you possibly say that with your political alighment.

Please tell me you were pro IRAQ war and thought they had WMDs. PLEASE dont tell me you were against that war.

PLEASE dont tell me you think pulling out of Afghanastan was a good idea.

I can't live in a world with this kind of hypocrisy.

The Left is pro war now.

They are everything they hated 10 years ago.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:05 PM
The Left is pro war now.

They are everything they hated 10 years ago.

They want to care about the environment, have free healthcare, but spend as much on military as we did during the cold war.

https://i.imgur.com/0BoS01f.png

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 03:06 PM
I'm sure the fact that China MAGICALLY became successful just after taking manufacturing away from us is pure coincidence.

You people act as if manufacturing for the entire world isn't majorly lucrative...

China is dirt poor, they just have a lot of people.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:07 PM
China is dirt poor, they just have a lot of people.

I think you mean they are extremely rich, they just have a lot of people.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 03:08 PM
I think you mean they are extremely rich, they just have a lot of people.

Our output is similar with 1/4th of their population.

China poor.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 03:11 PM
People worth more than petro dollars...

https://i.imgur.com/eqzsLrp.jpg

Hence why we are flooding our place with them :o

Trexller
02-14-2023, 04:50 PM
Our output is similar with 1/4th of their population.

China poor.

output of what? Amazon orders?

which are made in china.

we don't make anything

Botten
02-14-2023, 05:12 PM
How in the fuck can you possibly say that with your political alighment.

Please tell me you were pro IRAQ war and thought they had WMDs. PLEASE dont tell me you were against that war.

PLEASE dont tell me you think pulling out of Afghanastan was a good idea.

I can't live in a world with this kind of hypocrisy.

I see Jib is yelling at clouds again.

One tangent to the next with no rhyme or reason.

I pointed out you were wrong and you wildly flail with nonsense about Iraq and other real wars the US was in. When the discussion was on US proxy wars.

I guess it isn’t to far from how the GOP normally deal with political topics. Tangent into stupider and non-coherent subjects.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 05:37 PM
I see Jib is yelling at clouds again.

could be a chinese balloon

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 05:56 PM
output of what? Amazon orders?

which are made in china.

we don't make anything

Economic output. I thought that would be obvious from context.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 06:05 PM
I see Jib is yelling at clouds again.

One tangent to the next with no rhyme or reason.

I pointed out you were wrong and you wildly flail with nonsense about Iraq and other real wars the US was in. When the discussion was on US proxy wars.

I guess it isn’t to far from how the GOP normally deal with political topics. Tangent into stupider and non-coherent subjects.

I'm wrong for saying we're wasting money on military spending?

For calling out how they are destroying our planet??

The cold war we literally just burnt oil for the sake of it and you're over here using it as a reason we should continue spending more now.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 06:05 PM
Economic output. I thought that would be obvious from context.

yeah... the vast majority of money americans spend goes to another country

from amazon, to mom/pop shops, to the gas station, you're folding your money into paper airplanes and then throwing them across an ocean.

here's an exercise, walk around your house and try to find an item made 100% in the USA. raw materials, parts, assembly and distribution.

I've tried this before, its hard, i don't remember finding anything made 100% in the usa.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 06:08 PM
Because our government sold us out in exchange for potential soft power.

They pushed manufacturing over to China in the hopes that we would turn them into loyal capitalists.

Nope lol

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 06:11 PM
yeah... the vast majority of money americans spend goes to another country

from amazon, to mom/pop shops, to the gas station, you're folding your money into paper airplanes and then throwing them across an ocean.

here's an exercise, walk around your house and try to find an item made 100% in the USA. raw materials, parts, assembly and distribution.

I've tried this before, its hard, i don't remember finding anything made 100% in the usa.

Good, protectionism is ass.

Jobaber
02-14-2023, 06:12 PM
At least democrats and hard core neo nazi fascists agree, we should be spending trillions on war!

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 06:15 PM
Because our government sold us out in exchange for potential soft power.

They pushed manufacturing over to China in the hopes that we would turn them into loyal capitalists.

Nope lol

What happens if China builds a factory to compete with our factory and it has way lower material and labor costs?

Trexller
02-14-2023, 06:16 PM
What happens if China builds a factory to compete with our factory and it has way lower material and labor costs?

that pretty much sums up the last 40 years of geo-politics.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 06:21 PM
that pretty much sums up the last 40 years of geo-politics.

Should we keep operating our expensive factory at an (opportunity?) loss?

Trexller
02-14-2023, 07:19 PM
Should we keep operating our expensive factory at an (opportunity?) loss?

government subsidized wages, like the "America Works" plan from House of Cards.

That plan would all but eliminate unemployment, it would drive innovation, and it would raise the standard of living for all poor people. The best part of it is, the majority of those subsidized wages would be taxed right back into the gov'ts pocket in one shape or another.

AmWorks, would actually work.

thats why we'll never see anything like it.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 07:33 PM
government subsidized wages, like the "America Works" plan from House of Cards.

That plan would all but eliminate unemployment, it would drive innovation, and it would raise the standard of living for all poor people. The best part of it is, the majority of those subsidized wages would be taxed right back into the gov'ts pocket in one shape or another.

AmWorks, would actually work.

thats why we'll never see anything like it.

Dino, come get your boy. He's drunk.

Encroaching Death
02-14-2023, 07:44 PM
What happens if China builds a factory to compete with our factory and it has way lower material and labor costs?

Well all China is really doing is providing the cheap labor.

Any factory buildings/companies are usually American, owned by Americans.

So it's not China building better and cheaper. It's China allowing Americans to put their factories in China.

So anyone with power is connected to these rich American industrialists in China making bank. So nothing will get done.

We've never had a situation where a nation's entire manufacturing gets uprooted and transferred to another country, but it sure feels wrong.

I've got a protectionist streak to me and I'm not all about 100% turbo capitalism.

A country is an eco-system. We don't allow strange fish into our rivers without making sure the river is fine. We should treat our economy and industries the same.

At the very least, consider moving manufacturing to Mexico. They're closer and friendlier and better quality.

We put ourselves at risk in multiple ways with our current setup.

You can't just rip the entire soul out of the Rust Belt and just say "Adapt."

You usually find another job before you quit your current one.

Botten
02-14-2023, 07:47 PM
Ah so that’s why

Trump Rolls Back Train-Braking Rule Meant to Keep Oil Tankers from Exploding Near Communities (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-rolls-back-train-braking-002105066.html)

GOP to blame again.

Trains that carry oil and other flammable material won’t have to install electronically controlled brakes that reduce the risk of train derailments and explosions after the reversal by Trump officials of an Obama-era safety rule.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 08:10 PM
Dino, come get your boy. He's drunk.

you read up on AmWorks? or even watch house of cards?

fuckin awesome show, except the final season. I hate robin wright, she has a very punchable face.

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 08:39 PM
you read up on AmWorks? or even watch house of cards?

fuckin awesome show, except the final season. I hate robin wright, she has a very punchable face.

I saw I think the first 3 seasons but don't really remember it except him telling the union guy he'd cum on his face.

I meant the subsidized wage thing though.

Kaveh
02-14-2023, 08:56 PM
What happens if China builds a factory to compete with our factory and it has way lower material and labor costs?

Why doesn’t China build F-35s? Does a country have interests beyond the bottom line?

Trexller
02-14-2023, 08:56 PM
well, they're at it again.

approx ~7500 gallons of nitric acid on an Arizona freeway

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-freeway-closed-hazmat-spill-authorities

Trexller
02-14-2023, 09:03 PM
Why doesn’t China build F-35s?

They did build F-35s, after they stole the sensitive intel, and filled in the gaps with their own tech then called it a J-31.

Reportedly its not even half as capable tho, no one has tracked it on rader performing maneuvers even close to an F-35's agility, so they are still lacking in the engine and avionics departments.

https://i.imgur.com/7mHuPRp.jpg

not the best image, that's the marine corps' version of the F-35, its much more bulky. air force/navy models are a bit more stream lined

Kaveh
02-14-2023, 09:19 PM
If I were worried about the eastern menace (I’m not), I’d be more worried about the J-20

Botten
02-14-2023, 09:28 PM
well, they're at it again.

approx ~7500 gallons of nitric acid on an Arizona freeway

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-freeway-closed-hazmat-spill-authorities

woah crazy

Trexller
02-14-2023, 09:30 PM
If I were worried about the eastern menace (I’m not), I’d be more worried about the J-20

the CCP stole intel on the F-22, and has had 30 years to work on it. J-20 is yet another copy of an American plane. It's super similiar to the F-22.

which may have something to do with why the US military will sell you literally anything except an F-22, we don't want another Iran F-14 problem. Iran is basically the entire reason the F-14 program had to be retired. F-14 was a phenomenal aircraft, and we sold them to Iran in the mid 1970s. Then 1979 happened and Iran became the bad guy again. So now F-14s everywhere are basically grounded because we won't sell parts to fix them, and we refuse to sell the F-22 because its the best fighter jet ever designed, it has beaten the F-35 in air combat many times.

I believed from the start that the entire F-35 program was only ever greenlit because the US needed a fighter jet that it could sell to other nations whose aircraft were aging rapidly, but we will remain on top by keeping the F-22 to ourselves.

It makes sense, every allied partner needs new fighter jets, the US refuses to sell F-22s, and our allied partners can't be completely sure of what their future conflicts will look like, and voila, the F-35 jack-of-all-trades is born.

Kaveh
02-14-2023, 10:33 PM
Which is why I’d be more worried about that jet

And again, I’m not. The Chinese, if possible, are even dumber than Russians. And they still have to go through Japan. Plus 70% of South Koreans now support South Korea possessing a nuclear bomb. China pissed off Vietnam, Korea, and Japan. Good luck

aussenseiter
02-14-2023, 10:38 PM
the CCP stole intel on the F-22, and has had 30 years to work on it. J-20 is yet another copy of an American plane. It's super similiar to the F-22.

which may have something to do with why the US military will sell you literally anything except an F-22, we don't want another Iran F-14 problem. Iran is basically the entire reason the F-14 program had to be retired. F-14 was a phenomenal aircraft, and we sold them to Iran in the mid 1970s. Then 1979 happened and Iran became the bad guy again. So now F-14s everywhere are basically grounded because we won't sell parts to fix them, and we refuse to sell the F-22 because its the best fighter jet ever designed, it has beaten the F-35 in air combat many times.

I believed from the start that the entire F-35 program was only ever greenlit because the US needed a fighter jet that it could sell to other nations whose aircraft were aging rapidly, but we will remain on top by keeping the F-22 to ourselves.

It makes sense, every allied partner needs new fighter jets, the US refuses to sell F-22s, and our allied partners can't be completely sure of what their future conflicts will look like, and voila, the F-35 jack-of-all-trades is born.

China probably can't create or maintain thrust vectoring.

Marietta MUST go brrr.

Trexller
02-14-2023, 10:46 PM
China probably can't create or maintain thrust vectoring.

Marietta MUST go brrr.

the chinese do shoot themselves in the foot and stand in their own way, they have some saying which is like, "no bad news goes unpunished" or something.

basically in the chinese business world, everybody, I mean everybody is a sycophant.

nobody will ever give their boss bad news, or report that a design is flawed, or that the materials used are insufficient. stack on top of that systemic corruption (sanctioned by the CCP, look into that one... the CCP believes corruption can motivate productivity) then you end up with sub-par products in all sectors.

so, i'd take my chances against a J-21 more likely than not, an F/A-18 can beat it, if it even performs correctly.

we always hear about china flying jets into taiwans airspace, but their flight paths are basically sunday drives.

at the end of the day, it's a product made in china.

You guys ever shop at Harbor Freight? you know what im talking about.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 10:07 AM
Which is why I’d be more worried about that jet

And again, I’m not. The Chinese, if possible, are even dumber than Russians. And they still have to go through Japan. Plus 70% of South Koreans now support South Korea possessing a nuclear bomb. China pissed off Vietnam, Korea, and Japan. Good luck

This is actually the correct opinion, even though I'm solidly anti-China.

If anyone is interested in China and how retarded they actually are, check out: https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow

We in the West like to view China as this foreboding country who is playing 4D chess, but it's clear they have no idea what they're doing and they aren't the least bit proactive.

And they're probably a worse paper tiger than Russia is.

These types in the East cling to a big lie in order to survive, but their entire country exists on toothpicks held up on a house of cards.

Kaveh
02-15-2023, 02:28 PM
This is actually the correct opinion, even though I'm solidly anti-China.

If anyone is interested in China and how retarded they actually are, check out: https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow

We in the West like to view China as this foreboding country who is playing 4D chess, but it's clear they have no idea what they're doing and they aren't the least bit proactive.

And they're probably a worse paper tiger than Russia is.

These types in the East cling to a big lie in order to survive, but their entire country exists on toothpicks held up on a house of cards.

They’re not more of a paper Tiger than Russia, Russia won’t even stand up to Azerbaijan. But they have very real problems and more importantly as much as we hate China, their neighbors hate them ten times more.

To be clear, I still don’t want to fight China. I think that would be cataclysmic for the fate of the species because the Chinese are too stupid and nationalistic to give in and our country has two parties who revel in calling the other side cowards if they don’t respond in the most hawkish way possible. In short, the US doesn’t have adults in leadership anymore and the Chinese never had adults to begin with. Their culture spawns automatons who think their 3000 year history is prosaic when it’s actually just retards clubbing each other to death and being easily defeated by opium

aussenseiter
02-15-2023, 02:41 PM
Their culture spawns automatons who think their 3000 year history is prosaic when it’s actually just retards clubbing each other to death and being easily defeated by opium

What is prosaic mean?

Basanos
02-15-2023, 02:45 PM
Their culture spawns automatons who think their 3000 year history is prosaic when it’s actually just retards clubbing each other to death and being easily defeated by opiumI'm not convinced this is a feature unique to the Chinese, but I don't know if that is what you were implying.

Kaveh
02-15-2023, 04:11 PM
What is prosaic mean?

Having the style of prose, but in this context I mean it as “they are trying to derive lessons from it” but those lessons don’t apply to a wider world. They lack the poetry of life, IE the ability to think figuratively

Kaveh
02-15-2023, 04:13 PM
I'm not convinced this is a feature unique to the Chinese, but I don't know if that is what you were implying.

The Chinese were given a relatively isolated large land mass with many advantages and they think that the history of that region, which was relatively advanced when compared to the world, means that they are advanced

It doesn’t and they aren’t. Same dumb shit you hear when you talk to an iranian. “We had an empire.” Yep, 1400 years ago, and now we use the religion of our conquerors to oppress ourselves. The Chinese are even dumber

Botten
02-15-2023, 04:20 PM
20725

Thanks Trump for canceling Obama era safety regulations for trains.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 04:33 PM
Thanks Trump for canceling Obama era safety regulations for trains.

Trump has been gone for two years now - time for Pete to put his big boy pants on and do his job:

https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/wOLtusA1fU06.jpg

aussenseiter
02-15-2023, 04:39 PM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20725&thumb=1&d=1676492353

Thanks Trump for canceling Obama era safety regulations for trains.

I blame the guy(s) who crashed the train.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 04:49 PM
I blame the guy(s) who crashed the train.

Donald Trump was driving the train

Kaveh
02-15-2023, 05:12 PM
Donald Trump was driving the train

Lol’d

Kaveh
02-15-2023, 05:13 PM
“Meatball Ron” + the group execution thing is making me think about TRUMP again in ‘24

Jobaber
02-15-2023, 06:42 PM
Trump is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be!

But if he wins again I hope one of his eyes falls out and he builds an army 200 million people strong to make freedom global law.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 08:33 PM
Even if they get rid of Trump, there's bound to be another that springs up.

Currently we have western governments colluding together to create some centralized, controlling one-world neo-fascist state. Where we are stripped of our rights and possessions, only to rent everything from Walmart.

It'll all be in the name of 'safety' and 'security'.

The US and the EU both get boners over the thought of enslaving us.

Historically, authoritarianism doesn't live forever. People get fucking pissed and resist.

And there will be more "leaders of the people" who they will call racist and sexist. And retarded Leftists will lick the boot and believe it, all while the police state convinces them that "they're TOTALLY resisting".

Because the giant government police state colluding with corporations is ALWAYS the good guy when they face off with a man of the people...who will think of the poor old authoritarian police state?

Basanos and Horza will. Lick that boot, boys.

Horza
02-15-2023, 08:40 PM
Trump is not as bad as everyone makes him out to be!

But if he wins again I hope one of his eyes falls out and he builds an army 200 million people strong to make freedom global law.

Trump isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be, he just partied with the most famous pedophile in the world for years.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 08:41 PM
Trump isn't as bad as everyone makes him out to be, he just partied with the most famous pedophile in the world for years.

https://i.ibb.co/dpjcxNG/adult-happy-meal.png

Horza
02-15-2023, 08:44 PM
Nice chan meme you had saved and posted in 20 seconds?

Hope you like voting for an obese groomer again, because he's going to strongarm your party into giving him the nomination or threaten to run independent to keep those donations coming in.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 08:50 PM
Nice chan meme you had saved and posted in 20 seconds?

Hope you like voting for an obese groomer again, because he's going to strongarm your party into giving him the nomination or threaten to run independent to keep those donations coming in.

I'm voting for chaos.

I'm happy that Trump has the GOP shitting their pants.

I want to send the worst possible person to D.C. - I want them all to hate their life.

Trump has been an absolute godsend in that regard.

aussenseiter
02-15-2023, 09:07 PM
I want to send the worst possible person to D.C.

kakistocracy

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 09:12 PM
kakistocracy

Collapsitarian

Horza
02-15-2023, 10:00 PM
kakistocracy

I wonder why these guys can't get moderates to vote for their party while they're busy nominating people they describe as the worst possible.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 10:02 PM
I wonder why these guys can't get moderates to vote for their party while they're busy nominating people they describe as the worst possible.

No amount of moderates will fix the problem in D.C.

You can't vote your way out of this mess.

A controlled burn is needed.

Horza
02-15-2023, 10:03 PM
No amount of moderates will fix the problem in D.C.

You can't vote your way out of this mess.

A controlled burn is needed.

Without suburban moderates on your side you will never see another Republican in the White House, not that I'm complaining if people like you ranting about the cleansing flame are excluded from ever passing legislation.

Encroaching Death
02-15-2023, 10:08 PM
Without suburban moderates on your side you will never see another Republican in the White House, not that I'm complaining if people like you ranting about the cleansing flame are excluded from ever passing legislation.

:eek:

MrSparkle001
02-16-2023, 10:43 AM
https://i.ibb.co/dpjcxNG/adult-happy-meal.png

In other news, testosterone levels continue to drop among "men"

https://www.eu-focus.europeanurology.com/article/S2405-4569(20)30062-6/fulltext

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/1/196/2598434

Entire generations of soyboys now.

Botten
02-16-2023, 12:01 PM
In other news, testosterone levels continue to drop among "men"

https://www.eu-focus.europeanurology.com/article/S2405-4569(20)30062-6/fulltext

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/1/196/2598434

Entire generations of soyboys now.

I found this article interesting on the subject with our closest animal relative.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34662432/

Mother nature has a way with dealing with survival.

Encroaching Death
02-16-2023, 12:06 PM
I found this article interesting on the subject with our closest animal relative.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34662432/

Mother nature has a way with dealing with survival.

Or it could be all the microplastics and other insane chemicals in our food.

I'd be curious to see a comparison between an American (who eats god knows what) and a European or Japanese person who eats fresh fish from the river.

McDonald's was the weapon of mass destruction this entire time...

aussenseiter
02-16-2023, 12:10 PM
Or it could be all the microplastics and other insane chemicals in our food.

I'd be curious to see a comparison between an American (who eats god knows what) and a European or Japanese person who eats fresh fish from the river.

McDonald's was the weapon of mass destruction this entire time...

https://i0.wp.com/ascienceenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/vaccines-organic-childbirth1.png?fit=845%2C852&ssl=1

Encroaching Death
02-16-2023, 12:14 PM
https://i0.wp.com/ascienceenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/vaccines-organic-childbirth1.png?fit=845%2C852&ssl=1

We also thought smoking cigarettes was good for our health.

Maybe we shouldn't put chemicals in our food that other countries have banned?

But I'm sure the microplastics in food is saving us from infant mortality...

Oh wait, it isn't. The US has one of the highest childbirth mortality rates in the world.

Maybe if we didn't stuff our faces with absolute shit, our babies would survive.

aussenseiter
02-16-2023, 12:24 PM
We also thought smoking cigarettes was good for our health.

Maybe we shouldn't put chemicals in our food that other countries have banned?

But I'm sure the microplastics in food is saving us from infant mortality...

Oh wait, it isn't. The US has one of the highest childbirth mortality rates in the world.

Maybe if we didn't stuff our faces with absolute shit, our babies would survive.

https://onehealthtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Screen-Shot-2020-02-03-at-8.29.12-AM.png

Encroaching Death
02-16-2023, 12:26 PM
Yeah, see how we're darker than all other First World nations?

Horrible.

Probably due to microplastics and In N Out animal style burgers

aussenseiter
02-16-2023, 12:29 PM
First World nations?

goalposts

Encroaching Death
02-16-2023, 12:34 PM
goalposts

We're talking about child lives here, Wonk.

I get to be deceptive and slippery when lives are on the line.

Hospitals are literally executing newborns with .45 ACP right as well speak...I mean with microplastics. Yeah, microplastics.

Encroaching Death
02-16-2023, 01:00 PM
https://i.ibb.co/bJRMNn9/p8lmrs4a8nha1.jpg