Any Race + Any Class, what would you try out?

[Cen]

This topics been done before, but i'm doing it again :p

There's going to be a lot of Ogres, Iksar's, Halflings and Trolls to be sure, but maybe you've thought of something cool.

If it could be done, what combo would you think would be pretty cool?


Ogre's would make fantastic Paladins i'd think, and Iksar's are dominating the casters, but maybe ogres would too.


Maybe I could spice up the rules by making the equipment draw not change, but I won't. Just pretend the equipment were reasonably distributed to some extent if the combo would be available.

[Gustoo]

You mean of the non allowable race/class combos?

I'm not gunna participate.

Cool racial ability + any class that makes that class / race combo the best one in the game.

Ogre anything
Troll anything
Iksar Anything
Barbarian anything

In that order

The only class / race combo that should never have happened is the Iksar Monk and all the changes to the monk class Kunark brought. But they had to make something OP and super kick ass. I remember people who were monks on vanilla and then kunark comes out and every day there is a new kick ass monk thing they discover, they were so excitied.

[aussenseiter]

High elf warrior.

WoW made a whole expansion about allowing those.

[AbstractVision]

Gnome Beastlord

[Tunabros]

human shaman

[AxeGrinder]

Butt kicker..

for people weaving stories

[ya.dingus]

Human anything (except shaman)

Anime is cringe by the by

[Cen]

I like Humans for Paladins and Rogues ;D

[Ananka]

Halfling Shaman.

[yorumi]

The problem is as mentioned from a gameplay perspective Ogre, Troll, Iksar, and Barbarian got all the important racials. Is a wood elf paladin really any more interesting than a high elf paladin? Slightly different stats and appearance and that's it.

So really you kind of have to look to roleplay to make interesting combos.

Dark Elf Paladin who worships Erollisi. This order of exile dark elves rejected Innoruuk and learned to love. A bit cheesy but would be interesting.

High Elf Shadow Knight worshiping Bertoxxulous. They feel rejected by their kin and seek to corrupt and defile everything they love.

Iksar Ranger worshiping Mithaniel Marr. Rejecting fear in favor of valor he learned to survive in the wild on his own.

Dwarf Druid worshiping Prexus. Weary of dark tunnels and skyless cities he sought out the most open and free realm he could find, the oceans and seas.

Those all mostly focus on contrast but I'm sure there's plenty of complementary combos that would work too.

[Snaggles]

If they introduce tiny hybrids at some point I'll likely hide away in seclusion with a gnome sk and enjoy fear-kiting things 5x my size.

[Toxigen]

Halfling Shaman.

I wonder what color bear form would be...

Cinamon? Blonde? Blue-gray? Black and white like a panda bear?

I must know.

[Jimjam]

I think halflings have red panda energy. Cute, mischievous. Thieving.

Maybe they'd just turn in to a racoon, actually.

[strongNpretty]

Erudite Shamans would have Panda Energy..

[Jimjam]

Erudite Shamans would have Panda Energy..

I'd have them down as spectacle bears!

[strongNpretty]

I'd have them down as spectacle bears!

Yeah man, but they rock all those Asian weapons around their hood. They got Giang Yang runnin the show out in Stonebrunt... It just seems like the right choice...

[sajbert]

Dwarf ranger because that would be badass.

Dwarf bard, similar deal.

Gnome knight

[magnetaress]

Iksar wizard.

[Chortles Snortles]

not classic and thread good example of why not to build a video game listening to players feedback
(lol)

[Cen]

not classic and thread good example of why not to build a video game listening to players feedback
(lol)

Come on man this is for fun. Nobody's making a game here.

[Stroboo]

gnome ranger i think, mainly cause i don't have a gnome or ranger in the stable yet.

[Gustoo]

The problem is as mentioned from a gameplay perspective Ogre, Troll, Iksar, and Barbarian got all the important racials. Is a wood elf paladin really any more interesting than a high elf paladin? Slightly different stats and appearance and that's it.

So really you kind of have to look to roleplay to make interesting combos.

Dark Elf Paladin who worships Erollisi. This order of exile dark elves rejected Innoruuk and learned to love. A bit cheesy but would be interesting.

High Elf Shadow Knight worshiping Bertoxxulous. They feel rejected by their kin and seek to corrupt and defile everything they love.

Iksar Ranger worshiping Mithaniel Marr. Rejecting fear in favor of valor he learned to survive in the wild on his own.

Dwarf Druid worshiping Prexus. Weary of dark tunnels and skyless cities he sought out the most open and free realm he could find, the oceans and seas.

Those all mostly focus on contrast but I'm sure there's plenty of complementary combos that would work too.

Post of the year 2023 early candidate.

This is all gold.

Humans have outcasts in their basements, the evils should have outcasts too, who chose good.

I think this game has evil races as borderline monsters but has more nuance when it comes to “good”

[pink grapefruit]

my fav race is half elf, and i've always wished for:

half elf cleric
half elf monk
half elf sk (bertoxx fuck yea)
half elf beastlord
half elf shaman

[Chortles Snortles]

dude i would like totally roll a dual gender dark elf halfling gnome phantom toucher specialization class
(lol)

[Sweagen]

I have friend who's obsessed with the idea of a gnome bard, lol

[Gustoo]

I have friend who's obsessed with the idea of a gnome bard, lol

Can only play from a mechanized contraption that is like 10% worse than the bard epic, which he can use but can't use as an instrument.

The advantage is you get the mechanized contraption at like level 5 after some noob quests killing scarabs so you're set for instruments.

[Ennewi]

Coldain dwarf shaman, drakkel wolf pet.

[Jobaber]

Halfling Shaman.

I wonder what color bear form would be...

A bear cub.

:o

[Keebz]

Halfling Bard—Halflings are merry and sing and bards are already roguish, obv
Iksar Rogue—Iksar Outcast faction, train outside of Cab
Barbarian Paladin/Cleric—The children of Mith Marr should be able to do Mith Marr things
Half Elf Cleric—I don't see why mud bloods would be shunned from the more accepting guilds like Erollsi Marr or Karana
Half Elf Monk—This makes sense given monks came from bards. They are the descendants of those people. Quellious only as they are true believers.
Troll Cleric—Innoruuk or CT clerics. One faction is sympathetic to OG trolls (Broken Skull Clan). Differentiates from Ogres.

I also like the idea of a guild of Prexus Druids/Rangers/Rogues, but I'd say they are probably Human/Half Elf/Erudite, perhaps starting in OOT.

I feel if you go too hard on interesting "contrast" it gets weird where the majority of players are off theme—e.g. most Paladins are DEs and most Rangers are Iksar, etc. But I think some of the races could use more fleshing out.

[Jimjam]

Halfling Bard—Halflings are merry and sing and bards are already roguish, obv Merry and Pippin always raising hell or winning hearts and minds with a good romp. It matches the source material (lotr) of the source material (dnd) for eq!
Iksar Rogue—Iksar Outcast faction, train outside of Cab Agreed. Add in Half Elf trainers in West Karana for half elf wizards and stuff. Don't make it a city, just a rabble of wild half elves.

Barbarian Paladin/Cleric—The children of Mith Marr should be able to do Mith Marr things
Half Elf Cleric—I don't see why mud bloods would be shunned from the more accepting guilds like Erollsi Marr or Karanathe more dogmatic churches should maybe refuse to train them due to their impurity? idk. Being descriminated against is one of the supposed themes of half elves, but you don't see it much in game beyond the classes they can('t) choose.
Half Elf Monk—This makes sense given monks came from bards. They are the descendants of those people. Quellious only as they are true believers.
Troll Cleric—Innoruuk or CT clerics. One faction is sympathetic to OG trolls (Broken Skull Clan). Differentiates from Ogres. Maybe add in some new spawn location options for half elves. Perhaps half elf rogues can start in Neriak - they raise the mudbloods up as passable spies (hmm, perhaps enchanters too!?).

I also like the idea of a guild of Prexus Druids/Rangers/Rogues, but I'd say they are probably Human/Half Elf/Erudite, perhaps starting in OOT. needs to be more erud/barbarian touches to half elves. IDK how. Maybe let justice warrior half elves start in Halas?

I feel if you go too hard on interesting "contrast" it gets weird where the majority of players are off theme—e.g. most Paladins are DEs and most Rangers are Iksar, etc. But I think some of the races could use more fleshing out.Rangers could actually make sense for Iksar thinking about it - they do have a spirituality / wilderness theme to them as a race. heck they even got forage. Iksar warriors have no plate and forage - they are basically rangers already.

[Keebz]

Rangers could actually make sense for Iksar thinking about it - they do have a spirituality / wilderness theme to them as a race. heck they even got forage. Iksar warriors have no plate and forage - they are basically rangers already.

Lord knows I would play the shit out of an Iksar Ranger. If you did it, they'd have to be outcasts like the proposed rogues. However, we may be getting a little too into lore building for my tastes.


Being descriminated against is one of the supposed themes of half elves, but you don't see it much in game beyond the classes they can('t) choose...

Agreed. Half elves could definitely use more flavor touches. Lots of opportunity here imho. I like the Tribunal half elves in Halas thing. In general they should start with shitty faction, perhaps with some flavorful exceptions (e.g. Bertox Half Elves are accepted by Bertox followers, etc.)

[Chortles Snortles]

dude i would totes roll a ghoul paladin cleric BUT GET THIS he is a le heckin chaotic neutral alignment because he remembers living his life as a tunare WORSHPING HIGH elf!!! COOOL IDEA RIGHT GUYS ???!!!

>this thread
(lol)

[Jimjam]

dude i would totes roll a ghoul paladin cleric BUT GET THIS he is a le heckin chaotic neutral alignment because he remembers living his life as a tunare WORSHPING HIGH elf!!! COOOL IDEA RIGHT GUYS ???!!!

>this thread
(lol)

You're pretending to post this ironically out of derision, but you actually like that idea you shared. The only thing you are not be congruent on is that he would be a she so she can have some massive norks.

It's a cool idea!

In general they should start with shitty faction, perhaps with some flavorful exceptions (e.g. Bertox Half Elves are accepted by Bertox followers, etc.)

Bertie approves of the muddying of the elf line (are elves susceptible to non-magic disease and aging in eq? are they immortal? IDK) making them susceptible to the ravages of time.

Gonna headcanon Commander Kane a a half elf now. Explains why he never takes his full helm off!

[Cen]

Lindybeige had a funny idea that Half Elves should be like mules and the big downside is they can't have children.

That would actually be interesting lore, and make a lot of sense why they are shunned in social circles

[Sweagen]

Can only play from a mechanized contraption that is like 10% worse than the bard epic, which he can use but can't use as an instrument.

The advantage is you get the mechanized contraption at like level 5 after some noob quests killing scarabs so you're set for instruments.

I can't tell if this is a real thing, but it doesn't sound like a worthwhile tradeoff to me...

[yorumi]

I feel if you go too hard on interesting "contrast" it gets weird where the majority of players are off theme—e.g. most Paladins are DEs and most Rangers are Iksar, etc. But I think some of the races could use more fleshing out.

It's possible but given the number of ogres and trolls out there I don't know that they necessarily would. Erudite clerics, paladins, and shadow knights are practically unheard of in game. You would probably end up with a lot of Iksar anything just because of regen and ac bonus though. So you never know.

[ithaqua]

Can only play from a mechanized contraption that is like 10% worse than the bard epic, which he can use but can't use as an instrument.

The advantage is you get the mechanized contraption at like level 5 after some noob quests killing scarabs so you're set for instruments.

A synthetisizing short sequencer? With worn effect that enables /melody?

[Chortles Snortles]

...and to anticipate the majority of off theme classes babe WE LIMIT the amount of character combinations that can be rolled on this particular server babe...

https://i.imgur.com/ucO5Yba.jpg

[pink grapefruit]

Something I've always been interested in is a "fallen" paladin. Like if you're a Tunare paladin and you kill things in the Plane of Growth, what if you lost a number of your abilities? Not becoming a shadow knight, but instead needing to pick up more melee abilities or something to make up for the lost holy powers. I think this is a thing in D&D but idk anything about D&D.

And like there's a fancy long redemption quest you can do to get your powers back maybe.

Is this anything?

Make it half elf.

[Gustoo]

A synthetisizing short sequencer? With worn effect that enables /melody?

/melody would be too OP for the gnome epic tinkered instrument. Maybe the high end sequencer comes out in luclin.

And maybe the basic tinkered music contraption (like a player piano) is like 5% worse than bard epic or something, but again you get it forever from day 1 almost. The gnome non musical bard.

[Cen]

Something I've always been interested in is a "fallen" paladin. Like if you're a Tunare paladin and you kill things in the Plane of Growth, what if you lost a number of your abilities? Not becoming a shadow knight, but instead needing to pick up more melee abilities or something to make up for the lost holy powers. I think this is a thing in D&D but idk anything about D&D.

And like there's a fancy long redemption quest you can do to get your powers back maybe.

Is this anything?

Make it half elf.

In D&D5, they don't have blackguards/antipaladins/etc and now there's just Paladin's, and they are not limited to being good. They follow a god, and follow an oath, and those that break the oath are oathbreaker paladins who develop a different set of powers. Kind of like you were going for.

[Prinny24]

Troll Ranger
Wood Elf Cleric
Dark Elf Monk
Dwarf Druid

[Jimjam]

Bardbarian.

Don't tell me they don't have a magic to their song!

[wuanahto]

Things I never did but kinda wanted to in the past 12 years?

Dark elf wizard. in my mind they NEED level 29, jboots and clicky -res staff to even begin to consider being a thing. and I am a cheap guy and still need jboots for other alts

troll shaman. just a time/interest issue. also another level 29 minimum to get fun class

things that i always thought was kinda bullshit that never happened when they shoulda?
Barbarian paladins.
How can the motherfucking Marr twins create a whole fucking race built around justice not be a thing? Barbarian Paladins would made the class itself fun
high innate str/sta/wis
SLAM
FUCKING SLAM
My Shadowknights (troll blue, ogre green) were A+ fun because when fearkiting it would buy time or just something else to push.

[Chortles Snortles]

barbarian paladins are called shamans
hope this helps

[Tethler]

Ogre monk for those thicc boi flying kicks

[Duik]

Palabarian. 2h slam. Actual tankish stats. Man skirts.

[A Knight]

Halfling Ranger
Gnome SK
Gnome Paladin

Not on Luclin or whenever they were released.

[Danni]

An Ogre Enchanter named Struggles

[Encroaching Death]

Erudites should be able to be Bards.

Black people are obviously masters of music.

[strongNpretty]

Erudites should be able to be Bards.

Black people are obviously masters of music.

+1

[Gustoo]

Not erudites. That’s an eq race of squares. Haven’t you been to erudin?

[Jimjam]

They have a library full of bard songs…

[Ennewi]

https://web.archive.org/web/20010614015530/http://www.everlore.com/files2/FLO439097.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sv0Kaka.jpg

[magnetaress]

Iksar rogue.

Worship Mithaniel Marr.

His goal: liberate his pplz!

[Encroaching Death]

Iksar rogue.

Worship Mithaniel Marr.

His goal: liberate his pplz!

Iksar Bandits exist, right?

Iksar Rogues are KOS in Cab

[Ghost of Starman]

The only class / race combo that should never have happened is the Iksar Monk and all the changes to the monk class Kunark brought.

Eh Iksar Monk aren't that much better than humans, although I think the class should've stayed human only to preserve the uniqueness.

The only race/class combo in the game that shouldn't have happened is Iksar Necro. Increasing the efficiency of their class defining ability (Lich) is just broken. No other race/class combo synergizes at that level.

Aside from silly meme combinations (Ogre Rogue, Troll Cleric, etc), I'd just like the combos that actually made it into the game around Luclin that make sense from a lore perspective (Halfling Ranger/Pally, Gnome Pally/SK).

[Toxigen]

Eh Iksar Monk aren't that much better than humans,

lol

[Ghost of Starman]

lol

Regen is nice, but it isn't gamebreaking on a monk since mend and Fungi exist, just makes things a bit faster, AC is nice but again doesn't make that huge a difference. Yeah they're better but not in a way that actually matters, it's on the level of FSI for Shaman, nice but doesn't change the class functionally.

For a Necro, you're getting the benefit of two innate Z-hearts, the BIS 1Her for the class which directly impacts your core mana regen mechanic. that's actually game changing.

[drfuzz]

Eh Iksar Monk aren't that much better than humans, although I think the class should've stayed human only to preserve the uniqueness.

The only race/class combo in the game that shouldn't have happened is Iksar Necro. Increasing the efficiency of their class defining ability (Lich) is just broken. No other race/class combo synergizes at that level.

Aside from silly meme combinations (Ogre Rogue, Troll Cleric, etc), I'd just like the combos that actually made it into the game around Luclin that make sense from a lore perspective (Halfling Ranger/Pally, Gnome Pally/SK).

Gnome SK is an abomination before God and man… like gnomes themselves 😜😜

[wuanahto]

No other race/class combo synergizes at that level.

Ogre anything, not-being-frontal-stunned-time adds the fuck up to almost an infinite amount. and since the dec22 patch that time is precious and if you ever wondered why ogre shaman can be top tier soloers you now know why.
And Slam skills up Bash and Bash effects Slams chance to hit and damage. Even when Warriors get a bonus to Kick at level 55, Slam still wins.

[Duik]

Half elf.
But with elf/dwarf, elf/gnome or elf/halfling.
Any class either of the parent classes can be.

[pink grapefruit]

But with elf/dwarf

this is the single worst thing anyone has ever posted here.

[Jimjam]

this is the single worst thing anyone has ever posted here.

Literally just describing gnome.

[Cen]

Literally just describing gnome.

I want to be a wood gnome aka a sex-prechaun

[Jimjam]

I want to be a wood gnome aka a sex-prechaun

For sexy wood elf / dwarf combo halfling has you covered.

[wuanahto]

Dont google "dwelf"

[Duik]

this is the single worst thing anyone has ever posted here.

Aka, i never read my own posts.

[Immasnek]

Dwarf monk. 100% because flips

[FaeSeeker]

Female DE Cleric.

They always look so cool to me and amazing armor designs.

[arc]

dwarf everything

all dwarf raid

<Kaladim Krew>

edit: and they're all the goatee chick

[Jimjam]

Agnostic half elf cleric.