can i get a class rec?

[sixteenmiles]

i just came back after a couple of years break and i made an enchanter and a bard, and they're both cool and great and i enjoy them. but they're pretty active and intense. all that crowd control and twisting and mezzing and charming. it's a pretty intense playstyle. which i like, and i'm gonna keep playing them as my mains. but sometimes i want to be that guy who just sits at the back of a group and throws one spell and then sits and chats for the rest of the time.

so what's a good class for that?

something that has some depth and is interesting to *some* extent, but doesn't have to run around lulling and mezzing things and touching each end of the zone line to drag mobs around, and keep mental mez timers in your head, and worrying about charm breaking and shit.

something where maybe you drop your buffs, put a slow or a dot or a nuke on an enemy and then talk shit for the rest of the time but for some reason people still want you in groups constantly. i wanna be that guy today.

cheers.

[Sajan]

Sounds like pretty much any priest. Cleric and Shaman being the most wanted in groups. Cleric being the most relaxed playstyle.

[Keebz]

Mage comes to mind. Send pet. Do great DPS. Chill. Rogue is similar. Both are not super deep though. Necro can be played lazily but shines when active. Shaman has potential to be chill as well if you're not the main healer. If being the main healer isn't a problem, then cleric is a solid choice as well.

[Encroaching Death]

Rogue is probably the most chill.

If you like casting spells, then Mage.

Cleric is chill, but you stare at health bars too much.

Shaman might be an option IF you have a Cleric in your group, if not, then it becomes hectic play because everyone expects you to do everything from buff, slow, heal, etc.

Rogue and Mage are probably the most chill group classes in my opinion.

[yorumi]

Shaman or cleric has been mentioned. You also might try a tank, especially one of the knights. They’re mostly auto attack and the occasional spell to hold agro. They occasionally have to pull but that’s often left up to others.

[Jobaber]

Yeah priest, is the way to go for stand up sit down action/

Wizard even better, but the issue is you'll spend a lot of times trying to find a group, rather than be invited to them.

If you want standup sit down, cleric/wizard... wizard is the ultimate, but yeah tough to get the opportunity with that class compared to the other.

The other you sit too long everyone is gonna be PISSED OFF, wizard you can go like 15 mins without even replying to anyone.

You can also probubly enjoy a necromancer.

Sit there and just send your pet in, and say you're on the phone all the time.

[Encroaching Death]

You could get by with playing Necro in a lazy/chill way, but playing them correctly can be active, but not stressful. Because none of your abilities are absolutely crucial to a group, but you act as general support that helps a group in little ways that smooth things out. Keeping HP topped off, and twitching Clerics. It really helps the healer, and when that happens, you can pull more.

[Cen]

If you play a wizard and make it into a group, thats that class, but mage is ALSO that class and gets groups easier. I think mage you'd love in fact.

Cleric is also kind of that but peoples lives depend on you more ;D

[magnetaress]

All classes played well have comparatively similar APM.

Wiz. Clr. Mage is what you are looking for.

You can play an ench this way. However groups have come to expect more than C2 haste and the occasional cc.

Melees typically have to pull and therefore handle mechanics. So they can be extremely high APM and very active. Even rogues. Although it's like a two button rotation with macros.

Shms requires canni dancing and constant overwatch of buffs so just as bad as bards.

Solo a druid can get by on a low APM afk ish play style.

Don't be afraid to solo on a wiz with long afks. You can get a lot done irl this way. Or literally kill a few mobs. Nap. Kill a few more when you wake up.

You can even play a necro this way. Just life tap tanking or nuking mobs with a dot and pet out. And afking afterwards.

Wizard solo exp is pretty awesome if you just don't feel like putting in the effort for groups. You can literally zoom. Past. Epicced rogues this way by just consistently killing mobs.

[sixteenmiles]

thanks for all the recs. i guess i'll roll up a shaman or a mage... i just had an impression mages weren't very wanted in groups. but maybe it turns out that's wizards? who'd have known

[Cen]

thanks for all the recs. i guess i'll roll up a shaman or a mage... i just had an impression mages weren't very wanted in groups. but maybe it turns out that's wizards? who'd have known

Yeah wizards have a low DPS but they are artillery, they are better then people think but they aren't high in DPS.

Mages nuke slightly less but get the pet with great DPS and are popular in groups

[Encroaching Death]

thanks for all the recs. i guess i'll roll up a shaman or a mage... i just had an impression mages weren't very wanted in groups. but maybe it turns out that's wizards? who'd have known

People tend to like reliable and consistent damage in groups. Mages are that. Wizards are more bursty and can cause issues with aggro

[Stroboo]

mage or cleric are least active overall but still wanted in grps imo. mages are very much wanted in grp, between ds and pets they can sustain decent dps, even before spells, just very limited beyond that...

[sixteenmiles]

i'm gonna try mage and shaman for a few levels each and see which one catches me. but when it comes to shaman, is getting faction for an iksar a real slog? i love iksar aesthetic but i'll bite the bullet and make a barbarian if it saves me 1000 hours of game time.

[Encroaching Death]

i'm gonna try mage and shaman for a few levels each and see which one catches me. but when it comes to shaman, is getting faction for an iksar a real slog? i love iksar aesthetic but i'll bite the bullet and make a barbarian if it saves me 1000 hours of game time.

The thing about iksar shamans is...if you want to level up a lot in the old world, going back and forth to get your spells is going to be a pain in the ass.

That said, leveling up in HighPass from 19 to 22ish, collecting gnoll scalps might make you dubious or apprehensive.

I just did this with an SK and I want to say I started at Scowling and went to Apprehensive by handing in 100 scalps. Some factions are easier to level, like Dark Elves only require like 32p worth of Red Wine to go from scowling to dubious or whatever

[WokeCat]

Sounds like pretty much any priest. Cleric and Shaman being the most wanted in groups. Cleric being the most relaxed playstyle.

I identify as a Cleric/Shaman main, but I recommend not maining a Cleric on P99 because you are at the mercy of others when it comes to actually being able to play your character.

I'll give an example. I'm playing my Shaman. I want to go to Splitpaw. Well getting there will be relatively easy because I have SoW/Invis/Levitate. My Cleric has none of that, but he can still get there slowly, and more at risk because he isn't invis'd and if something aggros him, he may not be able to kill it (where as a Shaman can just use SoW to run away or likely just kill the mob).

Okay so now my Shaman / Cleric get to Splitpaw. There's no one in the zone or no groups who want to invite me. For the Shaman this is no big deal. He slips outside to South Karana and starts solo'ing all the adjacent gnolls and other mobs that give experience. He may even head over to the Treants or Aviaks and camp them.

Cleric on the other hand can't do anything. He's just stuck in the middle of no where hoping that someone logs on and wants to group with him (I know some twinked Clerics will disagree with me, but this is an accurate experience for the ordinary Cleric player).

Clerics tend to become extremely disgruntled because of this too. It's like no one wants to group with you, but the same people will blow you up and expect you to stop doing whatever it is you're doing to make an epic journey just to resurrect them.

Shaman on the other hand can solo all the way to 60, almost as easy as a Necromancer (at least at 34+). If you want to group, almost any group will invite you. Even other Clerics love having a Shaman around because with their slow, Clerics job becomes super easy.

Cleric to me should always be your alt class. Like maybe have a Necromancer as your main, and Cleric as your alt. When you can't get groups on your Cleric, just go solo on your Necromancer. Trust me, you'll be a lot more successful at the game in terms of getting experience and plat, and you'll be a lot happier. I have a few Cleric main friends on Blue still who get super triggered because people always screw them over where they're the Clerics best friend when they need something and then they ditch them and leave them LFG for hours.

And before people tell me this isn't accurate, I literally solo'd my untwinked Cleric all the way to level 49 because I couldn't get groups. I eventually stopped playing him and made a Shaman and have been way more happy ever since. I don't regret having the Cleric either because it was a challenge and I can log on and resurrect my friends when they die, but the freedom of being able to solo or main heal a group is nice (I personally find it easier to main heal with a Shaman than as a Cleric, unless the Cleric has clarity. Shaman has like twice the mana to play with via cannibalize, and people don't require nearly as many heals when the mobs are slowed and the non-tanks get passively healed via regen line of spells).

Edit: Another reason it can be hard to get a group as a Clericl; almost no group wants two clerics. If a group already has a Cleric and a Cleric is LFG, they will likely not invite the second Cleric. If a group already has a Cleric and a Shaman or Druid is LFG, they will prob invite the Druid/Shaman. Most groups would rather have 3 Druids instead of 2 Clerics. It's just how it is.

[Toxigen]

cleric or mage

[Trelaboon]

If you want a chill, relaxed play style I don’t recommend a shaman at all. It’s one of the most active classes, but not in a fun way in my opinion. The constant canni dancing drives me nuts. Your best bet is Cleric if you wanna heal, Mage If you want to play a caster DPS, or Rogue if you want to be a melee DPS.

I personally love the rogue for this very reason. They aren’t expected to do anything but throw out great DPS. No pulling and no tanking (unless the group is desperate). You just stand there and chat, then basically auto attack and hit backstab on pulls. Extremely easy but fulfilling.

[Tradersix]

Your best options for a chill class, IMO, are wizard or necro. Both bring utility, while also providing you with the option of significant solo capabilities when groups aren't available, or your playtime that session doesn't allow for it.

[Gustoo]

Necromancer, Iksar. Never leave Kunark. Thats my next play through. I've got a necromancer on blue waiting for me for the day I give up on red 2.0

I've also got a necromancer on red for the day I give up on red 2.0

Or either for the day I give up on real life. Tough call.

Leveling through kunark is cool enough that I'm about to install the game just clicking away about it.

[Valakut]

trying to play in groups is going to be harder than just playing what you enjoy playing. i would suggest looking into twist macros on the bard they are much more chill with twist macros than a shaman is on any level. and bard songs stacking with basically everything makes them always valuable to a group. the issue is just there arent a lot of groups in general until you get to 50+ where people are doing quest and raid related groups.

[Cen]

I agree, I main bard for blue server, and a lot of folks talk about carpel tunnel or make jokes about its actions per minute, but even bard is far less active then ANY class on ANY other MMO today. Especially if you play games like FFXIV, or ARPG's like Path of Exile/Diablo etc or any modern FPS/RPG game. Bard presses literally nothing compared to the lot of them :P

Its just every other class presses less. Some press a button or two per minute ;D

[arc]

Shaman or cleric has been mentioned. You also might try a tank, especially one of the knights. They’re mostly auto attack and the occasional spell to hold agro. They occasionally have to pull but that’s often left up to others.

paladin has been great so far (lv35)

tanking is pretty fun and groups love having you around

soloing is pretty hard though unless you're fighting undead

[Trelaboon]

I agree, I main bard for blue server, and a lot of folks talk about carpel tunnel or make jokes about its actions per minute, but even bard is far less active then ANY class on ANY other MMO today. Especially if you play games like FFXIV, or ARPG's like Path of Exile/Diablo etc or any modern FPS/RPG game. Bard presses literally nothing compared to the lot of them :P

Its just every other class presses less. Some press a button or two per minute ;D

I agree except in other modern MMO’s it’s literally button mashing. Smash 1 until you use the ability, you start smashing 2 so that it goes off as soon as the global cooldown on 1 is up etc. things like swing timers make that more intense, but still, it’s button “mashing” versus timed button pressing on a Bard. Something about that changes it for me and makes me want to play one way less. Having to watch the cast bar, click the next song, watch the cast bar, click the next song etc just makes it way too attentive for my ADHD brain lol

[Bobjenson]

Don't give up, really.

[trans gamer girl]

but sometimes i want to be that guy who just sits at the back of a group and throws one spell and then sits and chats for the rest of the time.

so what's a good class for that?


wizard, for sure

[Danni]

IMO a wizard would be ideal for the play style you're describing.

In addition to the many fine points already mentioned about wizards, I'd like to add that you can also do ports and chat with passengers or quad kite solo and chat with the other kiters between pulls

[Bobjenson]

Shaman. Just dont cani dance and get a global cool down, burn your hps down and then sit. No one cares.