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Viscere
01-13-2023, 07:55 PM
Did yall see this ?

https://youtu.be/3YxHnc-8K_4

It's insane

Jobaber
01-13-2023, 08:41 PM
Plot to ready player 1 intensifies.

GnomeLuvr
01-14-2023, 02:30 PM
Is there a tl;dr to that video?

"Blah, blah, blah-blah, blah..."

Infectious
01-14-2023, 04:21 PM
Holy shit. Daybreak needs to link up with this guy

DeathsSilkyMist
01-14-2023, 05:33 PM
Showing some art/animation in a game engine is a far cry from actually making a game sadly. What this guy did in the video is the easy part lol. Not very impressive to be honest. Most people could do this after watching a few hours of tutorials. He's just ripping existing assets and letting Unreal do most of the rendering work.

TercerRigo
01-14-2023, 05:53 PM
Showing some art/animation in a game engine is a far cry from actually making a game sadly. What this guy did in the video is the easy part lol. Not very impressive to be honest. Most people could do this after watching a few hours of tutorials. He's just ripping existing assets and letting Unreal do most of the rendering work.

Thank you, I was about to rip this apart and you've saved me the time.

Jobaber
01-14-2023, 06:13 PM
Still god bless the man.

TercerRigo
01-14-2023, 06:40 PM
Still god bless the man.

Sure. It's great that he loves EQ enough to setup the project, just understand that we'll never play it as EQ.

He can't release it with those assets without running into legal problems. He has also not shown any network functionality, so its a single player project. He also states that he has no development background and its his first project.

If slapping EQ on a project name gets this much attention, I'll come back in a year with a prototype for EverQuest : Hardcore. An mmo where your character has one life and on the red server necromancers can pimp your zombified corpse.

Jobaber
01-14-2023, 06:45 PM
There's this thing too.

/XQtnzLo9mBo

oh yea and this thing.

PmzwjjFOluE

Jobaber
01-14-2023, 06:52 PM
This boat is incredible.

https://youtu.be/vsplhgwcYZo?t=5091

Please watch that :o

TercerRigo
01-14-2023, 07:04 PM
This boat is incredible.

https://youtu.be/vsplhgwcYZo?t=5091

Please watch that :o

No updates on the account for at least a year. No network functionality.

Also for lanternEQ https://imgur.com/a/QGdyjII I don't believe those updates allow for legal release. Do they have permission like p1999?

DeathsSilkyMist
01-14-2023, 07:23 PM
Yeah sadly none of these are impressive. It really isn't difficult these days to throw some assets into a game engine and use the default (already coded and working) player control systems to make a scene that you can run around in. It only takes a few hours if you know the game engine and how to rip assets.

As TercerRigo says, none of these are probably playable over the network, so they are just a single player experience. And while yes, Unreal's default player controller/pawn has networking capabilities out of the box, I doubt they know how to utilize those features in any meaningful way.

Legally the people making these videos can't release their work. If Daybreak really wanted to remaster Everquest 1, it wouldn't be difficult for them. The game is relatively simple compared to modern games. They just don't want to, because the demand isn't there.

Jobaber
01-14-2023, 10:23 PM
guys im gonna blow your mind: youre on one of those servers literally right now

DeathsSilkyMist
01-15-2023, 12:12 AM
guys im gonna blow your mind: youre on one of those servers literally right now

P99 is a rare server, where they have a legal agreement with Daybreak. EQEMU also took 10+ years of volunteer coders to build it up before P99 was a thing:) Add the 10+ years the server has been up, and they didn't need to build the client. Most people aren't going to spend 10-20 years on a free project.

Good luck asking decent programmers and artists to spend 2-3 years making a professional quality game for free. A game that could be canceled at any time due to legal takedown. Rebuilding Everquest 1 from scratch in Unreal with programmers and artists good enough to actually get it done would be too much for a free project. It's extremely rare something like that actually happens. Again, what's shown in these videos are the easiest thing you could do with a game engine: Take other people's art and use the default setup to make a video. It's really not hard. You could do it in a day.

If you could actually get the developers together to make a project within the scope of Everquest 1, it would be better to make it a new IP, even if the mechanics are similar. No risk in running into legal trouble. If you COULD get Daybreak to agree to it, that would be awesome. But you would need someone very good on the business side to spearhead that effort.

Jobaber
01-15-2023, 12:28 AM
P99 is a rare server

http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverlist

daybreak is chill

I'm not arguing though if you're saying someone is going to make a game and sell it at gamestop.

Monsters & memories will be more like waht you're talkn about I think. But if someone makes a VR everquest and everyone loves it aint nobody gonna shut that down but will just prevent him from selling it but idk what the donation rules are.

DeathsSilkyMist
01-15-2023, 12:33 AM
http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverlist

daybreak is chill.

Daybreak also hasn't bought out P99. It shows they don't have enough interest in investing in an Everquest remake of any kind. P99 exists because it isn't eating into their profits, but is free advertisement for TLP when people get bored of P99.

Basically if you wanted to build an Everquest remaster, you would need to do these steps:

1. Get a team of good developers together.
2. Figure out how to pay them completely yourself.
3. Approach Daybreak saying you will build the game yourself on your own money, and you just want to license the Everquest IP. If the game gets made, they have full rights to it. If it doesn't get made, they lose nothing.

Good luck getting all of that to happen:) Don't get me wrong, if you can find some billionaire to fund the project, that would be great. It's just not easy to do this. Doing it the illegal route has a good chance at getting the project shut down, which destroys morale on the team you've established.

Jobaber
01-15-2023, 12:34 AM
well I just hope the eq VR guy didnt get hit by a bus

DeathsSilkyMist
01-15-2023, 12:35 AM
well I just hope the eq VR guy didnt get hit by a bus

Neither do I. But based on the videos he's shown, he has made 0 progress towards making an actual game. He just imported some art/assets and is using the default setup for VR. There is nothing special there unfortunately. Anybody could do the same. Again it's like a day of work.

Jobaber
01-15-2023, 12:39 AM
Neither do I. But based on the videos he's shown, he has made 0 progress towards making an actual game. He just imported some art/assets and is using the default setup for VR. There is nothing special there unfortunately. Anybody could do the same. Again it's like a day of work.

did you see that boat? i dont care what the hell it is ill dock and undock that thing 1000 times

it was so cool, he made it so you have to like, lower each sail, which is like, so in the spirit of EQ

1 guy can run around and do it

but if your friends on the boat do it for you tis faster and like a group effort

man

i sure would like to play his VR eq i hope he quits the feytnol addiction that must have gripped him (considering hes an eq player)

DeathsSilkyMist
01-15-2023, 12:42 AM
did you see that boat? i dont care what the hell it is ill dock and undock that thing 1000 times

it was so cool, he made it so you have to like, lower each sail, which is like, so in the spirit of EQ

1 guy can run around and do it

but if your friends on the boat do it for you tis faster and like a group effort

man

i sure would like to play his VR eq i hope he quits the feytnol addiction that must have gripped him (considering hes an eq player)

If you're fine playing a single player application, just riding the boat, then that's fine. I have no problem with that.

But the spirit of Everquest is an MMO, the keyword being multiplayer. Until they get the project to a point where they can at least match P99 in terms of their multiplayer capacity, this project won't actually be Everquest.

Jobaber
01-15-2023, 12:43 AM
If you're fine playing a single player application, just riding the boat, then that's fine. I have no problem with that.

But the spirit of Everquest is an MMO, the keyword being multiplayer. Until they get the project to a point where they can at least match P99 in terms of their multiplayer capacity, this project won't actually be Everquest.

I just said that the boat could have a party of friends raising and lowering the sails while we yo ho ho around a giant ocean of tears.

im not describing everquest, but I am describing heaven

Tongpow
01-15-2023, 12:58 AM
Did yall see this ?

https://youtu.be/3YxHnc-8K_4

It's insane

insanely ugly.

imagine thinking Graphics is the answer to why mmorpgs have sucked dogshit through a straw for the last 24 years.

and to you sir, Mr. V...
Jackie Brown | ‘Your Ass Used to be Beautiful.webm

swear to go i think I'm the last real mother fucker on the entire server. seek christ and seek a dungeon master you idiots....

Jobaber
01-15-2023, 01:01 AM
Yeah what they are really missing are the optimism of classic everquest players.

Randarn
02-20-2023, 03:13 PM
EQ Lantern seems to have a good bunch. I'm sure you'll be hearing about it in the coming years. As they said, they are gradually just working on the pillar foundations of the code right now. So that later once everything runs smoothly, something like a re-imagining could be possible. And the sky is the limit for that. Definitely check out EQLantern project and download the assets and read how to extract. As they stated the model is in the recoding process so its a single player format that once it works they will get to the multiplayer portion. But code, when they are only doing it on their free time, can take a while. I know currently that if someone like @Deathsilkymist really wanted. They could, without any experience or drawing skill load up EQLantern, download the free program blender and import, say East Commonlands original map and then recreate it using Blender, which is a industry standard program used today for environmental design. Hopefully in the coming weeks I can try it out as well as I stated. Hopefully good things from EQLantern. As I said, seems like legit passionate people who are working on it on the side gradually.

Randarn
02-20-2023, 03:15 PM
Yeah what they are really missing are the optimism of classic everquest players.

Oh we live and breath. =D We are just leveling our mains or playing with friends. Hope yall have a good day, back to Green.
~Trys 51 Ogre Warrior Green server.

Swish
02-21-2023, 03:03 AM
Just to say... you've got 1 person putting their spare time into these remakes, and the whole team at Pantheon is taking years to do terrain.

Infectious
02-21-2023, 10:35 AM
Yeah sadly none of these are impressive. It really isn't difficult these days to throw some assets into a game engine and use the default (already coded and working) player control systems to make a scene that you can run around in. It only takes a few hours if you know the game engine and how to rip assets.

As TercerRigo says, none of these are probably playable over the network, so they are just a single player experience. And while yes, Unreal's default player controller/pawn has networking capabilities out of the box, I doubt they know how to utilize those features in any meaningful way.

Legally the people making these videos can't release their work. If Daybreak really wanted to remaster Everquest 1, it wouldn't be difficult for them. The game is relatively simple compared to modern games. They just don't want to, because the demand isn't there.

Lol I bet you could do better?

Arvan
02-21-2023, 10:28 PM
what will release first this or pantheon?

Swish
02-22-2023, 01:12 AM
what will release first this or pantheon?

I feel like there's no drive for release among the Pantheon devs. If they work remotely that's probably even more a thing.

If you ever catch a Twitch stream they never ever EVER talk about a target for a full release.

It's got EQ Next vibes all over it sadly.