Last patch broke backstab

[Tiggles]

Plz fix

[Tiggles]

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[tj218]

Let the screwing of the rogues continue.

Only about 1 in 10 backstabs now go for more than minimum. They'll acknowledge it's broken but we'll have to wait 2-3 weeks for a patch to actually be implemented.

Rangers may be better DPS.

[Ektar]

it's ok, pals! They're all broken so you won't be personally blamed for a bit lower dps. Let's look on the bright side! Less agro when you got a warrior tank AMIRITE

[Aviann]

it's ok, pals! They're all broken so you won't be personally blamed for a bit lower dps. Let's look on the bright side! Less agro when you got a warrior tank AMIRITE

Good luck finding a group when they take away the only thing that helps you get groups.

[Ektar]

idk if no one stuck a giant flag in the air, waving it and screaming "I'M BROKEN NOW" I think no one would have known or cared.

but that's a bit too late now eh

[Curmudgen]

Ahh the end result of min-max playing. This wouldn't be such a huge deal if people were playing for fun.

[Ektar]

WHY SO SRS

ITS JUST AGAME

[Hobby]

ektar is trying too hard to boost post count. i think i shall start deleting some posts

[Ektar]

no I seriously just love to hear myself talk. I already hit 500 which was my quest :P You can see I have an equal, if not more, amount of posts in rnf! I won't post out of RnF for 2 days to PROVE myself to you. Startiiiiiing.. now!

[Slave]

Ahh the end result of min-max playing. This wouldn't be such a huge deal if people were playing for fun.

Because it's sooo much fun to suck and not do well.

[Aviann]

Because it's sooo much fun to suck and not do well.

i was about to type this exact sentence, except I was going to add more emphasis on the comparisons of how bad we suck towards certain aspects of other classes, like the melee of a warrior, or the ability to hit almost as hard as a flying kick from time to time.

[Rais]

What I'm posting is from what my logs came up with from a day in sky. One rogue is level 60, the other is 56 if I recall. By no means do these 2 people or guilds know I am posting this log.

That having been said, yes I do see a lot of 84/85ss, but I also see a lot more backstabs over 84. I think it's close, but not just there yet on the amout of min hits. I do think it's not as bad as most people claim. I do think it needs to be adjusted more in favor of mid to higher level backstabs. My only thing is, with all these rogues bitching about backstabs and for how little or how much they are doing, why am I the only one who have posted logs and not 2 sentence rage remarks?





[Sun Jun 26 12:49:53 2011] Dudeman backstabs an azarack for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:49:53 2011] Dudeman backstabs an azarack for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:08 2011] Dudeman backstabs an azarack for 129 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:08 2011] Dudeman backstabs an azarack for 101 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:17 2011] Dudeman backstabs an azarack for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs an azarack for 212 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:51:12 2011] Dudeman backstabs Protector of Sky for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:59:17 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul carrier for 113 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:59:17 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul carrier for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:59:51 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul harvester for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:59:51 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul harvester for 175 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:00:49 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 190 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:01:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 88 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:01:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:02:55 2011] Dudeman backstabs a gust of wind for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:06 2011] Dudeman backstabs a gust of wind for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:20 2011] Dudeman backstabs a gust of wind for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:34 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 197 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:48 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 146 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:59 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 151 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:59 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:16 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 102 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:27 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:06:44 2011] Dudeman backstabs a gorgalask for 228 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:06:54 2011] Dudeman backstabs a gorgalask for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:20:38 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:21:02 2011] Dudeman backstabs a crystalline cloud for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:32:25 2011] Dudeman backstabs an avenging gazer for 94 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:34:34 2011] Dudeman backstabs Gorgalosk for 110 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:34:46 2011] Dudeman backstabs Gorgalosk for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:35:15 2011] Dudeman backstabs Gorgalosk for 147 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:35:25 2011] Dudeman backstabs Gorgalosk for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:35:25 2011] Dudeman backstabs Gorgalosk for 143 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:31 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 290 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:31 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:50 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 193 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:50 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 101 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:08 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 130 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:31 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:49 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 229 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:49 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:48:10 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:48:19 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:48:55 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 218 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:49:02 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 129 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:50:50 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:50:50 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:51:21 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 277 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:52:04 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 150 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:52:43 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:52:51 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:01:02 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul carrier for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:23 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:23 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:51 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul harvester for 226 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:03:13 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:03:27 2011] Dudeman backstabs a soul tamer for 168 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:15 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:26 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 164 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:37 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence harvester for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:49 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:08:03 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence carrier for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:08:27 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:06 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 218 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:16 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:16 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 237 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:30 2011] Dudeman backstabs an essence tamer for 208 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:43:44 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 121 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:43:51 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:43:59 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:43:59 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 120 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:07 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:16 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 97 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:16 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 129 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:24 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:24 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:30 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:44 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 95 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:44:44 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 166 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:45:53 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 147 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:48:20 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc banisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:48:20 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc banisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:49:00 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc banisher for 278 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:51:55 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 98 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:52:02 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 186 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:52:02 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:52:12 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 217 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:47:51 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc walker for 128 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:48:02 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc walker for 95 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:56:25 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:56:47 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc expulser for 95 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:56:47 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc expulser for 170 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:00 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc expulser for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:27 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc revolter for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:33 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc revolter for 244 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:33 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc revolter for 268 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:43 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc revolter for 93 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:43 2011] Dudeman backstabs a spiroc revolter for 119 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:09 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 158 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:20 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:33 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:45 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 240 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:45 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 135 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:35 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 120 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 195 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:54 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 95 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:54 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:25:01 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 136 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:25:08 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:38:39 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 263 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:38:39 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:38:48 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:01 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 88 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:08 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 189 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:08 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 283 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:24 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 95 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:33 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:43 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 218 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:12 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 164 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:39 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:50 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 126 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:45:45 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:46:21 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 101 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:46:21 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:46:39 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 84 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:42 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 150 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 19:36:18 2011] Dudeman backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 84 points of damage.



Thrift backstabs an azarack for 168 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:10 2011] Thrift backstabs an azarack for 356 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:36 2011] Thrift backstabs an azarack for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:50:47 2011] Thrift backstabs an azarack for 224 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:51:02 2011] Thrift backstabs Protector of Sky for 132 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:51:09 2011] Thrift backstabs Protector of Sky for 181 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:51:15 2011] Thrift backstabs Protector of Sky for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:51:15 2011] Thrift backstabs Protector of Sky for 195 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 12:51:21 2011] Thrift backstabs Protector of Sky for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:00:55 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul tamer for 136 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:01:22 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul harvester for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:01:22 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul harvester for 160 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:01:29 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul harvester for 217 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:01:49 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul tamer for 100 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:37 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:43 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 168 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:49 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:55 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:03:55 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:01 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:11 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 180 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:19 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:25 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:25 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 178 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:04:39 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:06:25 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 176 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:06:31 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:06:37 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 129 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:06:44 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 108 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:07:26 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:07:26 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 178 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:07:32 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:07:32 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 260 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:07:38 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 166 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:07:45 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:08:40 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 131 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:08:40 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:09:01 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:09:47 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 339 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:09:58 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:09:58 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 103 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:11:15 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:11:25 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:11:35 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 134 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:12:05 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 100 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:12:05 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:12:18 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 196 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:12:31 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 244 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:12:38 2011] Thrift backstabs a gorgalask for 261 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:13:47 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:13:47 2011] Thrift backstabs a crystalline cloud for 144 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:15:29 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:15:36 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 136 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:15:42 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 313 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:15:42 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 123 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:15:48 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:15:54 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:16:20 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 230 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:16:33 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 165 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:16:40 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 106 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:16:40 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 137 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:16:46 2011] Thrift backstabs a sprited harpie for 239 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:17:57 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie pet for 245 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:08 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 93 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:08 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 122 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:16 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:16 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:22 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:22 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:28 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 231 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:34 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 163 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:48 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:55 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 292 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:18:55 2011] Thrift backstabs heart harpie for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:26:03 2011] Thrift backstabs a watchful guard for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:26:03 2011] Thrift backstabs a watchful guard for 231 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:26:15 2011] Thrift backstabs a watchful guard for 239 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:26:21 2011] Thrift backstabs a watchful guard for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:32:25 2011] Thrift backstabs an avenging gazer for 119 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:32:25 2011] Thrift backstabs an avenging gazer for 202 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:34:38 2011] Thrift backstabs Gorgalosk for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:34:49 2011] Thrift backstabs Gorgalosk for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:34:59 2011] Thrift backstabs Gorgalosk for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:35:09 2011] Thrift backstabs Gorgalosk for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:35:37 2011] Thrift backstabs Gorgalosk for 111 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:38 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:38 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:45 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:45 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 236 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:46:51 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:17 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence carrier for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:53 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 346 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:59 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 151 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:47:59 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 140 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:48:55 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 94 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 13:48:55 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 116 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:00:57 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul carrier for 217 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:01:03 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul carrier for 102 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:01:03 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul carrier for 288 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:01:10 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul carrier for 163 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:01:10 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul carrier for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:22 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul tamer for 156 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:29 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul tamer for 215 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:49 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul harvester for 249 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:02:59 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul harvester for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:03:14 2011] Thrift backstabs a soul tamer for 156 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:26 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 133 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:32 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 89 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:39 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence harvester for 108 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:48 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence carrier for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:07:54 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence carrier for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:08:07 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence carrier for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:08:58 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 285 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:20 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 159 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:20 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 192 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:26 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 14:09:32 2011] Thrift backstabs an essence tamer for 331 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:48:53 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc banisher for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:52:08 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 15:52:19 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 315 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:47:54 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc walker for 347 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:56:28 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc vanquisher for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:56:59 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc expulser for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:29 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc revolter for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:43 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc revolter for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 16:57:43 2011] Thrift backstabs a spiroc revolter for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:16 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 280 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:16 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:12:24 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 356 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:38 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:38 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:49 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:24:49 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:02 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:09 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 154 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:18 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 145 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:32 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 99 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 17:39:39 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 90 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:10 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 189 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:10 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 247 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:27 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 343 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:27 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:38 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 204 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:38 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 101 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:12:55 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 152 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:13:01 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:13:01 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 171 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:45:30 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 123 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:45:50 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 200 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:29 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 276 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:29 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:38 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:38 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 199 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:49 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 18:56:49 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Guardian for 85 points of damage.
[Sun Jun 26 19:35:56 2011] Thrift backstabs The Spiroc Lord for 121 points of damage.
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[Tarathiel]

this makes me a very sad panda

[Tiggles]

What I'm posting is from what my logs came up with from a day in sky. One rogue is level 60, the other is 56 if I recall. By no means do these 2 people or guilds know I am posting this log.

That having been said, yes I do see a lot of 84/85ss, but I also see a lot more backstabs over 84. I think it's close, but not just there yet on the amout of min hits. I do think it's not as bad as most people claim. I do think it needs to be adjusted more in favor of mid to higher level backstabs. My only thing is, with all these rogues bitching about backstabs and for how little or how much they are doing, why am I the only one who have posted logs and not 2 sentence rage remarks?









[/QUOTE]

I only post 1 sentence rage remarks.

[bakkily]

glad i decided to stop lvling my rog at lvl 20, long live the ranger!

[Tiggles]

glad i decided to stop lvling my rog at lvl 20, long live the ranger!

Yeah real good idea there

[Supaskillz]

why am I the only one who have posted logs and not 2 sentence rage remarks?

[/QUOTE]

See the bug portion of the forum plenty of data.

[bakkily]

the rogs a great class, my main on live was a rog, from kunark to oow, from 1-70 i loved the class

[Dravingar]

You people need to quit claiming the sky is falling every fucking patch. Yes, rogues backstab is a bit underwhelming currently but we still are top dps. I am not at my comp at the moment so I can't post the logs but I'm still #3 or above on raids. Only people that will beat me are other rogues and Perun with his OP staff.

TL:DR Play better.

[Athosblack]

It wouldn't be classic EQ if something didn't go haywire with every patch. Log it and relax. As a Necro are my DOTs going to change after the nerf? To be honest I don't give a shit. I'm having a good time grouping and finding ways to work around the nerf.

[Arkyani]

This has been broken for quite a while now.. at least its getting some attention lately. I think last patch made it even worse then it was before, which was already sad. I dont even bother swapping in my crystalline spear any more since it hits for minimum half the time anyway. I cant even remember the last time I saw a max damage backstab.

[Ostros]

It wouldn't be classic EQ if something didn't go haywire with every patch. Log it and relax. As a Necro are my DOTs going to change after the nerf? To be honest I don't give a shit. I'm having a good time grouping and finding ways to work around the nerf.

Not classic.

[Tiggles]

I believe the GM's are aware of this now, Now we just be patient

[Athosblack]

Not classic.

lol stuff not breaking when patches came out? Really cause i clearly remember everyone complaining back in the day every time a patch was released. Who knows though. My memory from those years has been severely wiped due to alcohol and drugs.

[Tiggles]

hmm Shiftin complains about Trak not being a 3 day spawn for like fucking forever.

GM's notice this and when they make Trak a 3 day spawn they break backstab.


Long in short.

Fuck you Shiftin

[Skope]

^^ haha. In his defense, backstab was OP and broken for a looooong time, but now it's just broken the other way.