At least the shopping malls in Japan [Archive]

magnetaress

11-06-2022, 12:44 PM

Also bottom one where they go to the ferris wheel i think is basically what amounts to poverty in japan. (sorry if this seems insulting it's actually a compliment from an American perspective).

Does japan have really strong anti-drug laws?

Japan's drug laws are very strict, although not as strict as fellow Asian nations such as Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia and China, where drug offenders can be executed. Japan is not one of the 35 countries that has the death penalty for drug offences – instead the maximum punishment being life imprisonment.Apr 20, 2022

yes actchually :D

also I do believe a high rate of institutionalization for mental health??? pretty sure Althought the WHO is probably trying to destroy their way of life.

However, as has long been indicated here and elsewhere, Japan lags behind other countries in terms of deinstitutionalization. Furthermore, the population of inpatients in psychiatric care beds is aging dramatically. In addition to the diversification of mental illness, the question of what measures to implement going forward regarding current psychiatric bed resources has emerged as a new challenge.

I don't know about u guys but it seems like a real good trade off.

The mean length of stay in psychiatric care beds in Japan (mean length of hospital stay among discharged patients) was approximately 500 days in 1990 but fell to under 300 days in 2011 and further decreased to approximately 266 days in 2018 [9]. This number is also conspicuously higher than in other OECD countries. However, as with the number of hospital beds, definitions differ by country.

That's actually pretty short and not so severe, maybe the path to suicide - permanent incarceration in prison is shorter from these facilities. Through their system.

All food for thought.

Long-term institutionalization has been the primary treatment for mentally ill patients in Japan since the early 1920s. The average length of stay in a Japanese mental hospital in 1989 was 496 days, 41 times the average stay of patients in the United States. Although the government has encouraged and supported the integration of mentally ill people in the community and the development of rehabilitation programs since enactment of the Mental Health Law of 1988, implementation of such programs has been slow. The authors summarize the history of mental health care in Japan, discuss the current availability of mental health care facilities and personnel, and recommend changes needed to improve care.

They should def be careful of 'progressive humanitarian reform' to their civil society hehehehehe

Or they'll be looking like DC and baltimore real soon (TM)

Reiwa

11-06-2022, 12:49 PM

Fried oysters don't taste good.

magnetaress

11-06-2022, 01:06 PM

That batter and sauce looks delicious. It's all about the steamy soft texture inside. IDK what u are talking about.

The best we have here is some overfried really greasy chewy clams that are rubbery as heck and fried in 10 month old oil with mayo that is like runny syrup. IDK man. I'll take the fried oysters for $8 over the clams for $14

(and yes I have had fried oysters b4) So I would def go for that one. Protien is protien.

Chortles Snortles

11-06-2022, 01:16 PM

https://i.imgur.com/15XT09F.jpg

magnetaress

11-06-2022, 01:17 PM

Chortles u live inside one of those nescafe sleep pods so STFU

Chortles Snortles

11-06-2022, 01:20 PM

https://i.imgur.com/MlfYCfA.jpg

Reiwa

11-06-2022, 01:42 PM

magnetaress

11-06-2022, 01:45 PM

It's gross for the same reason fried salmon is gross. Not sure what that reason is.

No fried salmon is way grosser.

Chortles Snortles

11-06-2022, 01:49 PM

https://i.imgur.com/tr3P8qN.jpg

magnetaress

11-06-2022, 02:25 PM

https://i.imgur.com/MlfYCfA.jpg
Can u spot the difference?
https://i.imgur.com/tr3P8qN.jpg

Top soup is underrated and v unfair comparison.

Jibartik

11-06-2022, 06:49 PM

wage slave bad

salary man KAWAII

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edit: lol wow progressives just refuse to test these apps with black folk dont they

Bisonzabi

11-07-2022, 12:46 AM

Almost all the malls that are still open near me have fallen to crime over the past 10-15 years. At least in a Japanese mall you wouldn't fear being attacked by a group of "youths" in the parking garage.

Jibartik

11-07-2022, 01:24 PM

In a perfect country:

1. online purchases from retailers is not allowed
2. products sold in the USA were made in the USA

There, the economy and quality of life in America is in perfect balance.

magnetaress

11-07-2022, 01:29 PM

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Basanos

11-07-2022, 04:23 PM

I have been to Japan and would never live there and have seen maybe a half dozen animes my whole life AMA

Jibartik

11-07-2022, 05:14 PM

Japan? More like Jacan't find a wife amiright?

nostalgiaquest

11-07-2022, 05:42 PM

I lived in Japan from 2012 to 2018. It was by far the most fun place I’ve ever lived. But I couldn’t live there forever. Foreigners will always be second class citizens and the work life balance is absolutely horrible. And weed there is fuckin exxxpennsive! Like 50 bucks a gram expensive. But this was the view from the beach 5 minute walk from my apartment in the town I lived in. Zushi beach looking across Sagami bay to Enoshima Island and Mount Fuji. This I miss.

Basanos

11-07-2022, 05:56 PM

Japan? More like Jacan't find a wife amiright?My wife is hispanic and has never set foot in Japan

My younger brother is married to a Japanese woman (on paper) and they have several kids

nostalgiaquest

11-07-2022, 06:01 PM

magnetaress

11-07-2022, 06:07 PM

What is the single worst thing about living in Japan?

Basanos

11-07-2022, 06:13 PM

Every expat I knew with a Japanese wife said the same thing. “I love my wife… but don’t ever marry a Japanese girl they’re fucking insane!” And as soon as kids come along, the sex stops in its tracks. I knew so many married men that has side bitches simply cuz their wife’s wouldn’t put out. Which is also why soapland whore houses are so popular.It ain't all about sex. I couldn't say if that's what caused their almost divorce. Cops were called at some point, I think. Alcohol is a factor. I barely know them both.

What is the single worst thing about living in Japan?For me, it would be several things. I'd probably die of liver failure within a few years. My brother is well on his way.

I also suspect I'd get tired of not having a true kitchen. I am sure they exist but it's doubtful I could afford to have one there.

Maybe these aren't as big of a deal outside of Tokyo, dunno. We spent most of our time there and Kyoto. Tourism crap, mostly.

nostalgiaquest

11-07-2022, 06:20 PM

Hmm good question. Probably the blatant racism, sexism, and xenophobia. I was lucky cuz I lived there as a contractor for the US military, so I worked with Americans on a Navy base and had SOFA status. But my girlfriend who is European worked as a research professor for the Japanese government and she’s got enough stories to write a book. Foreign woman working for the Japanese government? no bueno. That’s why we ended up leaving.

Also, I’ve never been in a place that is so alcoholic. It’s super fun as an expat, but underneath the surface it’s really depressing. Obliterated salary men passed out in a puddle of their own puke on a train platform. Funny at first, but sad when you really think about it.

Also also, I’m not aware of any other culture that has a specific word for dying at your desk from overworking. Karoshi. And it’s not an uncommon thing either. You see it in the news all the time. And I can’t count the amount of times trains were delayed due to people jumping in front of them.

magnetaress

11-07-2022, 10:39 PM

Thank you for the thoughtful responses.

Alcohol. That was me in my 20s. I outgrew it finally in my mid 30s tho.

Too bad about all the suicides. That really does suck.

I wouldn't mind dying skinny and getting raptured at work brainwashed that I was winning or something. Harder to see it coming that way.

Sexism sucks. I'm no social justice warrior tho. I know it I could snap my fingers and retcon to female all my life I would hope for a very traditional family and try to be an obedient good wife for a great man. That isn't true or possible tho so it doesn't count.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 12:22 AM

Gotta give em little buggers clever credits.

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Reiwa

11-08-2022, 12:25 AM

Gotta give em little buggers clever credits.

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Should I watch the other 17 minutes to find out if they're talking about deuterium?

Reiwa

11-08-2022, 12:45 AM

Should I watch the other 17 minutes to find out if they're talking about deuterium?

2H is not H2 I guess :confused:

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 12:48 AM

Should I watch the other 17 minutes to find out if they're talking about deuterium?

No butt they gotta crack and conserve helium which isn't lost really fast once they gott it in the tubes for this application. So it should be doable. WW3 or us steeling the tech and hoarding helium could screw them. Helium isn't the only option tho as some erudites have pointed out. The brits used a carbon gas. Maybe it's less safe butt just as workable and economic. The safety margins on a helium cooled HTTR r p gud tho.

No deuterium needed.

It's really simple dumb dumb stuff that mostly requires retooling and a market shift.

No reason it can't work really. And if we where patience it could potentially be fully scaled up for global use. U think Musk will playball tho?

May be useful to a post tribulations atlantis tribe. The tech isn't incredibly hard. Or fancy or flashy.

The video is like 5th grader lvl and I understood it. Nice that a PoC is talking about it. Glad to see him getting in on the action. (Trolling jib)

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 12:54 AM

2H is not H2 I guess :confused:

Some H2 is more expensive than other h2.

Butt it's exactly the same molecules. Different sources.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 12:56 AM

Would be baller if Calli just big subsidized red h2 instead of being taxosexuals about fossils.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 12:58 AM

Some H2 is more expensive than other h2.

Butt it's exactly the same molecules. Different sources.

There are other passive nonfossil ways of h2 that just don't scale so well. Not as good as the potential of HTTR which could economically crush all other ways.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 01:00 AM

I'm done posting now.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 01:01 AM

Aww fuck it the video is cute because it shows them actually doing it. So it's 100% possible. Doesn't mean it will happen tho.

I would wanna invest in Mitsubishi tho

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 01:03 AM

Also I am not an expert. I just watched the video and deciphered the crappy comment stream.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 01:30 AM

Ok HTGR is the reactor tech. And HTTR is the test tech. Just to clarify that for easier googlins.

Kaveh

11-08-2022, 01:55 AM

No idea what y’all are talking about but production of green hydrogen for use in heavy industry using renewables would be an innovation BIGLY, we could tell the Middle East and Russia to enjoy their gas and oil, we’ll be cloning elon (he’ll be in a matrix like suspended state) for engineering brain power to make us a type II civilization

FUn fact: it’s called a Dyson sphere not because of the scientist, but because the vacuum company will be producing it in the future but they traveled back in time to make money off of vacuums first

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 02:08 AM

Never thought I would see Kaveh make a wacky post. Butt ok.

Also the point is renewable don't scale. HTGR wouldn't only produce electricity butt Also melt steel by just being toasty.

Supposedly HTGR is like 1.2JPY/kWh better economically than LWR plus bigly gains on safety margins + better scalability (technically). Plus extra steel.

unsunghero

11-08-2022, 02:09 AM

Every expat I knew with a Japanese wife said the same thing. “I love my wife… but don’t ever marry a Japanese girl they’re fucking insane!” And as soon as kids come along, the sex stops in its tracks. I knew so many married men that has side bitches simply cuz their wife’s wouldn’t put out. Which is also why soapland whore houses are so popular.

I find your Japanese lore very interesting

My very limited impression, pro’s of Japanese culture:
+ polite
+ clean
+ honorable
+ xenophobic

Cons of Japanese culture:
- too into demons
- too into kids/high school
these are probably just cons of anime actually

Japanese women are some of my least favorite kind of Asian. Skin is too pale, voice is too shrill, and far too passive for my personality. I like assertive women

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 02:15 AM

Polite clean and honorable r the most important traits.

People are lying fucks if the say they're xenophiliacs.

Anime is gross. It's a sacrifice for the greater good tho.

Kaveh

11-08-2022, 02:19 AM

Asian women are a hard pass from me. In my next life I hope I come back as a wealthy Colombian

Kaveh

11-08-2022, 02:23 AM

I love the unemployeds who say renewables don’t scale. A photovoltaic cell from 1980 in the Sahara could power the entire planet if the infrastructure to transmit the energy were there. It can be done BIGLY

but it will take listening to attractive higH IQ millionaires like me and Elon over disableds like Greg Abbott

HTH!

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:38 AM

renewables scale so well that the guy who campaigned on relying on them asked if he could suck the prince of saudi arabias dick and got negged

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:39 AM

I bet fusion is 10 years a way (But really this time)

Kaveh

11-08-2022, 02:43 AM

renewables scale so well that the guy who campaigned on relying on them asked if he could suck the prince of saudi arabias dick and got negged

Biden not being able to do something doesn’t mean it can’t be done

This isn’t an argument. We have been adding wind power to the grid BIGLY just like natural gas

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 02:45 AM

Are they ever expecting UBI inflation to catch up with costs tho?

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 03:04 AM

Biden not being able to do something doesn’t mean it can’t be done

This isn’t an argument. We have been adding wind power to the grid BIGLY just like natural gas

Im just being a shit fusion is comign tho and also why really do renewables I mean like, nobody even uses batteries on a 2 stroke leaf blower and that's the real problem lets be honest, not that there are cars that are extremely good at burning fuel.

By the time we used up the non renewables we had now we'll have ships orbiting the sun collecting energy.

Nedion

11-08-2022, 06:28 AM

I find your Japanese lore very interesting

My very limited impression, pro’s of Japanese culture:
+ polite
+ clean
+ honorable
+ xenophobic

Cons of Japanese culture:
- too into demons
- too into kids/high school
these are probably just cons of anime actually

Japanese women are some of my least favorite kind of Asian. Skin is too pale, voice is too shrill, and far too passive for my personality. I like assertive women

People are very different)) In fact, there are many guys and mature men who prefer Asian women as a family partner. I'm talking now about requests within the US. You can check the number of people on this asian dating site - https://www.iwantasian.com/ By the way, I noticed that IT specialists and doctors often choose Asian women to create a family)) This is if you look at my environment .. But I will not say that Japanese women occupy a leading position in such a list ..

Basanos

11-08-2022, 08:15 AM

Asian women are a hard pass from me. In my next life I hope I come back as a wealthy ColombianAlways wanted to make an in-game guild called 'Plata O Plomo' but to do that I'd actually have to play this game

And people would speak to me in Spanish which means I'd have to think can't have that

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 08:30 AM

People are very different)) In fact, there are many guys and mature men who prefer Asian women as a family partner. I'm talking now about requests within the US. You can check the number of people on this asian dating site - https://www.iwantasian.com/ By the way, I noticed that IT specialists and doctors often choose Asian women to create a family)) This is if you look at my environment .. But I will not say that Japanese women occupy a leading position in such a list ..

Koreans #1 imho.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 10:21 AM

I bet fusion is 10 years a way (But really this time)It shouldn't surprise me that a Trump conservative doesn't understand how scientific progress works, considering their general misunderstanding of most other things related in any way to science

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 10:38 AM

That isn't tru at all jib is very smart and scientific he understands some deeply interdasting stuff. You are letting urself be trolled and jib is feeding off ur dark energies.

Both of u are kinda bein bad tbh.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 10:47 AM

I am very protective of nuclear energy. Nuclear power is the future. My dark energies are freely available

Reiwa

11-08-2022, 10:48 AM

Basanos

11-08-2022, 10:51 AM

Look up JET and ITER, it's been a long time coming and we may not see it widespread in our lifetimes, but a fusion economy will make space travel a lot more reachable for millions of people

I'd sign up to run a Subway on an O'Neill cylinder

Smoofers

11-08-2022, 11:35 AM

Virtually every common stereotype and initial impression of the Japanese is incorrect, something that only becomes apparent once you live there for longer than about 6 months.

Japan is littered with JETs in unhappy marriages (or divorced) with kids who will sadly never be accepted by their peers as an equal, and over whom the wife has unilateral control.

Pro tip #1: If you are unhappy in your home country, then moving to another country is not the solution to your problems.

Pro tip #2: Do not expect to be respected working a job for which the only qualification is being able to speak your native language.

Tech-pats actually have it pretty good there, but set a shelf life of 3 years for yourself, otherwise you'll miss out on too much earning potential in your career.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 12:00 PM

It shouldn't surprise me that a Trump conservative doesn't understand how scientific progress works, considering their general misunderstanding of most other things related in any way to science

haha TV news made you mad at an everquest player

unsunghero

11-08-2022, 12:22 PM

Pro tip #1: If you are unhappy in your home country, then moving to another country is not the solution to your problems.

Pro tip #2: Do not expect to be respected working a job for which the only qualification is being able to speak your native language.

Makes sense. These should be true no matter where you go

Basanos

11-08-2022, 12:25 PM

GinnasP99

11-08-2022, 12:45 PM

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Jibartik

11-08-2022, 12:55 PM

If I was president.

I would ban all manufacturing outside of the USA for products sold in the USA

And I would shut down all online retail stores like amazon (you cant have an online store, gotta go somewhere and community build.)

and then I would watch malls become a thing again

americans disconnecting from their computers

and america would be great

and you dont have to bring back racism to do it.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 12:57 PM

I always thought abandoned malls would make decent public housing with a little investment and tweaking. Abandoned strip malls and all golf courses would take more work.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:01 PM

Yeah people in low income communities love living in a big places that looks identical to a prison.

The CCP would be into this idea for sure. They are as liberal progressive as you can possibly get.

loramin

11-08-2022, 01:05 PM

Yeah people in low income communities love living in a big places that looks identical to a prison.

I think people in low income communities have a lot more important things to worry about in their housing selection (capacity, safety, etc.) than how it looks.

Caring about how the place you live looks is a privilege that low income folks don't have.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:06 PM

lol just another priviliged guy telling people in marginalized communities how they want to live.

Sorry but insinuating that black communities would want to live in a big hallway cubbies with gates that close down every night is flat out racist.

What the f do you think the GOP has been doing for the last 100 years.

loramin

11-08-2022, 01:07 PM

lol just another priviliged guy telling people in marginalized communities how they want to live.

No, I'm telling you (a privileged person) that not everyone has your privilege. This may shock you, but some people have more important things to think about than how their home looks.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 01:10 PM

Maybe so but it beats the "absolutely nothing" the state generally does

It's only gonna get worse as time goes on, especially as the fascists gain power

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:15 PM

No, I'm telling you (a privileged person) that not everyone has your privilege. This may shock you, but some people have more important things to think about than how their home looks.

Makes me sad that in these communities gang violence and lack of community is the biggest problem, and you thnk people dont care about thier home.

I honestly makes me sad that you believe that people, every person, doesn't have a right to a home that they care about in this country, and I fear the world you want to build.

I know from experience the world you want to abandon is great. I dont want to live in this world where YOU get to decide what POOR people want.

Poor people want their dollar to not be worth 10% less than it is!

They dont want the good guys to tax them for buying a soda.

They want better education that YOUR PARTY complains about but CANT DELIVER in their OWN CITIES AND STATES.

They want more Jobs that YOUR PARTY cant DLIEVER IN THEIR OWN CITIES AND STATES

they want communities, that YOUR PARTY wont ALLOW becasue they WONT STOP police VIOLENCE in THEIR OWN DEMOCRAT CITIES AND STATES.

There are blue states, where you coudl makea difference.

But you people dont care about making a difference.

Youre mad about GOP and DNC shit, from your childhood. Post Iraq War Anti Religion Lefitism

Thats all the DNC base is right now, you dont care about a single issue: JUST BEATING TRUMP

just stopping CONSPIRACY THEORY

poor people dont CARE about conspiracy theory

they dont care about jan 6th

they want the bankers and wallstreet and the trillions of dollars being stolen out of the hands of workers, to STOP and the party doing it is the DEMOCRATS.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 01:16 PM

tell me how the Republicans fix those things

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:21 PM

tell me how the Republicans fix those things

Its hard to say, but after all the GOP people you hate, left to the DNC when they said "ew gross trump is not a conservative!!!" we started seeing a boost in our economy, lowest unemployment in minority demographics, I could go on but you wouldn't believe a word of it because you think I'm a fascist ID pol conservative (that has vote for socialists and green party people my whole life)

Like the left basically is like, "look if you're green, and anti capitalist, we dont want you" and on TV news in many cases, they literally say that.

Maybe ripping down the 2 party system is the way voting for trump will fix it.

Maybe destablizing our goverment by throwing a brick into it is the way to fix it.

letting people who dont care about people not do it, is not going to fix it.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 01:23 PM

So, you don't even know. Understood

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:25 PM

So, you don't even know. Understood

Because there is no solution dude, you cant just snap your fingers and solve a problem!

You libtards are so sanctimonious I swear to god.

What's your solution, to keep on keeping on with the status quo of the unconscious bias and systematically racist system? Not changing it because changing that would be a "threat to democracy"??

How you can vote for the "education party" that has not a single example in any of their communities of what a good education system is, is the reason we dont have good education in this country.

loramin

11-08-2022, 01:25 PM

Let's just recap. I make a normal, logical statement to the effect of "poor people are more worried about the quality of their living space than the outward appearance of it."

And in reply, Jib gives ... this wall of crazy talk:

Makes me sad that in these communities gang violence and lack of community is the biggest problem, and you thnk people dont care about thier home.

I honestly makes me sad that you believe that people, every person, doesn't have a right to a home that they care about in this country, and I fear the world you want to build.

I know from experience the world you want to abandon is great. I dont want to live in this world where YOU get to decide what POOR people want.

Poor people want their dollar to not be worth 10% less than it is!

They dont want the good guys to tax them for buying a soda.

They want better education that YOUR PARTY complains about but CANT DELIVER in their OWN CITIES AND STATES.

They want more Jobs that YOUR PARTY cant DLIEVER IN THEIR OWN CITIES AND STATES

they want communities, that YOUR PARTY wont ALLOW becasue they WONT STOP police VIOLENCE in THEIR OWN DEMOCRAT CITIES AND STATES.

There are blue states, where you coudl makea difference.

But you people dont care about making a difference.

Youre mad about GOP and DNC shit, from your childhood. Post Iraq War Anti Religion Lefitism

Thats all the DNC base is right now, you dont care about a single issue: JUST BEATING TRUMP

just stopping CONSPIRACY THEORY

poor people dont CARE about conspiracy theory

they dont care about jan 6th

they want the bankers and wallstreet and the trillions of dollars being stolen out of the hands of workers, to STOP and the party doing it is the DEMOCRATS.

Dude, take your pills :( You have a problem when you can't talk like a normal person in a basic conversation.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:27 PM

Ok over 30 boomer.

Address my points without saying its not the democrats fault if you think you're so above me it should be easy.

loramin

11-08-2022, 01:28 PM

Ok over 30 boomer.

The age insult from the crazy guy who refuses his necessary medication hurt so much :rolleyes:

Address my points without saying its not the democrats fault if you think you're so above me it should be easy.

How about you talk like a normal human being without spewing a crazy rant instead?

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:29 PM

Oh did that hurt you that i insulted you because you told me to take my pills?

Basanos

11-08-2022, 01:32 PM

Because there is no solution dude, you cant just snap your fingers and solve a problem!

You libtards are so sanctimonious I swear to god.

What's your solution, to keep on keeping on with the status quo of the unconscious bias and systematically racist system? Not changing it because changing that would be a "threat to democracy"??

How you can vote for the "education party" that has not a single example in any of their communities of what a good education system is, is the reason we dont have good education in this country.It doesn't have to be some epic program. Cities and municipalities could just fund more shelter projects, or convert existing structures. It happens this way already, but clearly not enough if you look at certain parts of big cities. Electing progressives is a step in the right direction.

Anyways, nice to see the "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" meme is still reworkable.

loramin

11-08-2022, 01:34 PM

It doesn't have to be some epic program. Cities and municipalities could just fund more shelter projects, or convert existing structures. It happens this way already, but clearly not enough if you look at certain parts of big cities. Electing progressives is a step in the right direction.

Anyways, nice to see the "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" meme is still reworkable.

You're trying to reason with a crazy person (his wall of text rant really should have made you realize as much). It's a lot like trying to reason with an idiot: you're going to lose.

Why? Because he's going to drag you down to his level, and then beat you with experience.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 01:38 PM

Please do not refer to anything I post as "reason", thanks. I prod Jib for my own... reasons

loramin

11-08-2022, 01:38 PM

And to be clear Jib, this is nothing personal. Some days you're coherent, and you have interesting debates with me which I enjoy, even though we're on opposite ends of the political spectrum.

But today you're on the Magnetaress end of the spectrum, which makes me think you're off your meds or something. So again, it's not personal, I'm just saying ... never go full Magnetaress (ie. take your pills) ;)

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:52 PM

I appreciate your backhanded insult, that that you percieve it's a complement.

Because I think that you have assburgers and dont know when you're being insulting.

But im glad you enjoy our talks, because otherwise what are we doing here?? I take liking all of you for granted (but Im crazy, right??)

Ok so anyawy enough about my mental limitations that you so gallantly overlook.

Just realize that you're speaking from a place of privaliage, and unconscious bias and nobody likes living in assisted housing, which is why there are GANG and crime problems in every one of them, literally, in every, single, country on earth.

If you want to end poverty: integrate it with wealthy society

Basanos

11-08-2022, 01:53 PM

Have you lived or spent time in such housing?

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 01:57 PM

Have you lived or spent time in such housing?

Instead of having them in sectors, if you mix them together, then they all become 1 community.

For every 5 houses sold across this country there should be 1 goverment placed family home mysteriously mixed right in between them.

Take from the rich, give to the poor.

Something the left will never do because the party is all run by rich NIMBYs

Reiwa

11-08-2022, 01:58 PM

Have you lived or spent time in such housing?

Public housing is hideously expensive to operate, like prisons.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:01 PM

If it was teh 90s again, Id totally agree that the left MIGHT fix the problem if we just support them.

But I know that they wont, because they had the chance many times since the 90s and they make the problems worse.

Basanos

11-08-2022, 02:17 PM

It sure is expensive, but lots of things the state does are expensive things

Still not seeing the Republican plan to fix the issues they love to whine about, waiting to see that

Toxigen

11-08-2022, 02:25 PM

you vill eat ze bugs and you vill live in ze pod

loramin

11-08-2022, 02:26 PM

Ok so anyawy enough about my mental limitations that you so gallantly overlook.

Umm ... I called you out, as directly as I possible could. That's literally the exact opposite of "overlooking" your crazy post.

It's actually a pet peeve of mine that people post insanity like that and everyone just pretends its normal. It's not, and the few sane people here should say as much.

Just realize that you're speaking from a place of privaliage, and unconscious bias and nobody likes living in assisted housing, which is why there are GANG and crime problems in every one of them, literally, in every, single, country on earth.

I'm privileged? You think people care more about how their home looks than crime, price, living space, working utilities, accessibility, etc.

If you want to end poverty: integrate it with wealthy society

Meanwhile, in the real world we don't have magic wands so ... good luck with that.

I'll keep pushing for realistic solutions, and converting existing buildings to housing is exactly that.

But hey, welcome back to the conversation, and talking like a normal person: dunno if you took pillls or what, but it seems to have worked because I don't see any more crazy walls of text :)

Toxigen

11-08-2022, 02:27 PM

man loramin goin hard in off topic what in the world

loramin

11-08-2022, 02:30 PM

Public housing is hideously expensive to operate, like prisons.

Public housing and prisons are shit. And yet, being homeless is even shittier, which is why old people commit crimes just to get a cot and three square meals.

Reiwa

11-08-2022, 02:42 PM

Public housing and prisons are shit. And yet, being homeless is even shittier, which is why old people commit crimes just to get a cot and three square meals.

Thots on private prisons?

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:44 PM

It's actually a pet peeve of mine that people post insanity like that and everyone just pretends its normal. It's not, and the few sane people here should say as much.

sorry i dont fit in to your little church group this is literally why I hate conservatives.

if you're weird and poor you're a threat and dangerous ive been hearing it my whole life.

just not from dudes who wear little bear hats and that's what depresses me since my behavior is why you can wear hats like that without being bullied anymore.

Ooloo

11-08-2022, 02:46 PM

Public housing and prisons are shit. And yet, being homeless is even shittier, which is why old people commit crimes just to get a cot and three square meals.

And yet many homeless people prefer being homeless. They literally ignore or walk out of shelters. Most of them are addicts of one type or another, and sadly tent city + heroin beats rudimentary shelter and getting clean for many of them.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:48 PM

Public housing and prisons are shit. And yet, being homeless is even shittier, which is why old people commit crimes just to get a cot and three square meals.

Who cares about homeless people comiting crimes how about the mortage holders and lenders that destroyed our economy doing them that have gotten away scott free literally being protected and handed trillions of dollars by the lefties that were supposed to occupy wallstreet??

Skarne

11-08-2022, 02:48 PM

complement assburgers

Yum.

loramin

11-08-2022, 02:49 PM

Who cares about homeless people comiting crimes how about the mortage holders and lenders that destroyed our economy doing them that have gotten away scott free literally being protected and handed trillions of dollars by the lefties that were supposed to occupy wallstreet??

Umm, losing your mind again?

We were talking about converting malls into housing, and you were arguing it was a bad idea because they would be ugly. We were not discussing ... whatever nonsense you just wrote.

Skarne

11-08-2022, 02:49 PM

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:50 PM

Umm, losing your mind again?

We were talking about converting malls into housing, and you were arguing it was a bad idea because they would be ugly, not ... whatever nonsense you just wrote

No id argue it was a (humorously) bad idea because the layout of a shopping mall is literally the layout of a prison.

And if that idea of putting poor people into a giant prison doesnt offend you, then you're not a leftist anymore.

loramin

11-08-2022, 02:51 PM

And yet many homeless people prefer being homeless. They literally ignore or walk out of shelters. Most of them are addicts of one type or another, and sadly tent city + heroin beats rudimentary shelter and getting clean for many of them.

Oh absolutely; a whole lot of homeless people are crazier than Jib even ;)

But there are also plenty of low income people who are not crazy, and are just looking for an affordable place to live ... and again I really don't think such people care about how that housing looks, as long as it's affordable, spacious enough, safe enough, accessible enough, and so on.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 02:51 PM

I think living in a mall would be OK butt each mall would need its own g-d emporer and sovereignty

loramin

11-08-2022, 02:52 PM

No id argue it was a (humorously) bad idea because the layout of a shopping mall is literally the layout of a prison.

And if that idea of putting poor people into a giant prison doesnt offend you, then you're not a leftist anymore.

So again, you're arguing that completely strangers would rather live on the street than in a mall. And again, I think you are incorrect.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:52 PM

Oh absolutely; a whole lot of homeless people are crazier than Jib even ;)

But there are also plenty of low income people who are not crazy, and are just looking for an affordable place to live ... and again I really don't think such people care about how that housing looks, as long as it's affordable, spacious enough, safe enough, accessible enough, and so on.

I support trump, because I actually regret fighting for your rights and freedoms the last 30 years.

You people need to be locked up in goverment shopping malls.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 02:55 PM

and again I really don't think such people care about how that housing looks, as long as it's affordable, spacious enough, safe enough, accessible enough, and so on.

Got any examples of that existing on earth? Usually in places where nobody gives a shit about anything except their own space things get a little violent quick.

unsunghero

11-08-2022, 03:14 PM

If you want your shelter to be successful, you will have to rule out a decent chunk of homeless people including:

- those that want to use hard drugs while at the shelter. No shelter can allow illegal activity knowingly

- those that are not mentally stable enough to be around others. Creating a continual disturbance by being aggressive or even super loud will result in a permanent ban

- those that want to loiter at the shelter all day doing nothing. Shelters always have a goal of people becoming self-sufficient. They expect people to be attempting to locate work during the day or doing something productive. Longer transitional shelters will give people a grace period where they can stay including during the day for a few weeks, but they will assist people in locating low skill jobs and will ask for a small weekly rent payment eventually. Those that want to freeload forever will be kicked out eventually

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 03:20 PM

So again, you're arguing that completely strangers would rather live on the street than in a mall. And again, I think you are incorrect.

That's not what im arguing at all way to completely be wrong about your entire argument.

I am saying making ghetto sectors is an age old tradition.

tp-HPXFydx8

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 03:24 PM

If you want to turn the shopping malls in into MENTAL asylum's, I'm all for it, but dont call it "housing".

but can we instead bring back the shopping malls by shutting down online retail and bring back the jobs by shutting down global manufacturing.

So we dont NEED ghettos?

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 03:33 PM

Guys I’m sorry I made us fight because you all know I want mental hospitals.

I was just shitposting about how malls do have the same physical layout of a prison.

magnetaress

11-08-2022, 03:49 PM

I feel u jib I KNOW what u mean

i'm sorry if it doesn't go that way

loramin

11-08-2022, 04:29 PM

You people need to be locked up in goverment shopping malls.

Because that's how normal, sane people communicate: they threaten each other with being locked up for disagreeing with them :rolleyes:

Chortles Snortles

11-08-2022, 04:30 PM

hmm just like locking up that humorous soul who updated the wiki with an opinion you disagreed with

curious ain't it

Reiwa

11-08-2022, 04:44 PM

hmm just like locking up that humorous soul who updated the wiki with an opinion you disagreed with

curious ain't it

Elfminster is only funny if you're laughing at him.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 04:44 PM

Because that's how normal, sane people communicate: they threaten each other with being locked up for disagreeing with them :rolleyes:

First of all what I said was a hilarious joke. Second of all if you don’t know that then all your INSULTS are not jokes.

Oh absolutely; a whole lot of homeless people are crazier than Jib even ;)

Umm, losing your mind again?

Here you are literally suggesting the same thing you just said I’m not normal for joking about evoke you diagnose me with all the mental problems you say I have.

It's actually a pet peeve of mine that people post insanity like that and everyone just pretends its normal. It's not, and the few sane people here should say as much

You’re a toxic person dude. All I’ve said about you is that you have assburges and that’s how I try to let your toxicity bother me.

you’re not better than I am.

Chortles Snortles

11-08-2022, 04:51 PM

censorship good
free spech bad

Basanos

11-08-2022, 05:01 PM

censorship good
free spech badchortles is a time traveler i have it on good authority this is the trump 2024 slogan

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:16 PM

Stand up sit down kneel stand up kneel sit down stand up kneel.
-democrats & priests

loramin

11-08-2022, 05:18 PM

First of all what I said was a hilarious joke. Second of all if you don’t know that then all your INSULTS are not jokes.

Well, look, you also just wrote this crazy rant in response to a normal, sane conversation that people were having, only a few hours ago:

Makes me sad that in these communities gang violence and lack of community is the biggest problem, and you thnk people dont care about thier home.

I honestly makes me sad that you believe that people, every person, doesn't have a right to a home that they care about in this country, and I fear the world you want to build.

I know from experience the world you want to abandon is great. I dont want to live in this world where YOU get to decide what POOR people want.

Poor people want their dollar to not be worth 10% less than it is!

They dont want the good guys to tax them for buying a soda.

They want better education that YOUR PARTY complains about but CANT DELIVER in their OWN CITIES AND STATES.

They want more Jobs that YOUR PARTY cant DLIEVER IN THEIR OWN CITIES AND STATES

they want communities, that YOUR PARTY wont ALLOW becasue they WONT STOP police VIOLENCE in THEIR OWN DEMOCRAT CITIES AND STATES.

There are blue states, where you coudl makea difference.

But you people dont care about making a difference.

Youre mad about GOP and DNC shit, from your childhood. Post Iraq War Anti Religion Lefitism

Thats all the DNC base is right now, you dont care about a single issue: JUST BEATING TRUMP

just stopping CONSPIRACY THEORY

poor people dont CARE about conspiracy theory

they dont care about jan 6th

they want the bankers and wallstreet and the trillions of dollars being stolen out of the hands of workers, to STOP and the party doing it is the DEMOCRATS.

Maybe if you didn't go from batshit crazy, to making jokes, in the span of a few hours, people wouldn't mistake your jokes for more insanity.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:20 PM

Maybe if you didn't go from batshit crazy

maybe if you werent such a judgmental asshole and had some fun with your life you wouldn't think all that negative hateful shit about my jokes about "society".

Youw ill laugh up until you one of my jokes is 'against something you believe in' enough to be a bully about it online and just resort to toxic spamming about me being mentally ill (the democrat word for retarted)

I think shopping malls look like prisons, and you think im a crazy asshole.

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 05:23 PM

How this thread started -
https://i.imgur.com/cY3Uje0.jpg

How it's going -
https://i.imgur.com/CN2i9JN.jpg

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:25 PM

For 6 years the left has been saying anyone who doesnt suport hillary fuckn clitton is a trump supproting fascist racist.

OH WHAT A SUPRISE everyone in the country hates each other now.

The most fucked up thing about it is they wont let you use the word retard

but they will call people menially ill as an insult like 60 times a day while they say bullying is wrong.

loramin

11-08-2022, 05:28 PM

I think shopping malls look like prisons, and you think im a crazy asshole.

No, I think how they look is irrelevant to lower-income people, because those people have far more pressing concerns (like how many family members can fit in the home, whether it has roaches or rats, whether it is close enough to public transportation and stores, etc.)

You think the visual appearance of the home is more important than those concerns to lower-class people. We disagree. That's all normal, healthy, "let's have a discussion about our different view points" type stuff.

What's not healthy and normal, is when I say something that disagrees with your view, like:

some people have more important things to think about than how their home looks.

and you respond with a wall of craziness:

Makes me sad that in these communities gang violence and lack of community is the biggest problem, and you thnk people dont care about thier home.

I honestly makes me sad that you believe that people, every person, doesn't have a right to a home that they care about in this country, and I fear the world you want to build.

I know from experience the world you want to abandon is great. I dont want to live in this world where YOU get to decide what POOR people want.

Poor people want their dollar to not be worth 10% less than it is!

They dont want the good guys to tax them for buying a soda.

They want better education that YOUR PARTY complains about but CANT DELIVER in their OWN CITIES AND STATES.

They want more Jobs that YOUR PARTY cant DLIEVER IN THEIR OWN CITIES AND STATES

they want communities, that YOUR PARTY wont ALLOW becasue they WONT STOP police VIOLENCE in THEIR OWN DEMOCRAT CITIES AND STATES.

There are blue states, where you coudl makea difference.

But you people dont care about making a difference.

Youre mad about GOP and DNC shit, from your childhood. Post Iraq War Anti Religion Lefitism

Thats all the DNC base is right now, you dont care about a single issue: JUST BEATING TRUMP

just stopping CONSPIRACY THEORY

poor people dont CARE about conspiracy theory

they dont care about jan 6th

they want the bankers and wallstreet and the trillions of dollars being stolen out of the hands of workers, to STOP and the party doing it is the DEMOCRATS.

That's not how a normal, sane person communicates!

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:35 PM

No, I think how they look is irrelevant to lower-income people, because those people have far more pressing concerns (like how many family members can fit in the home, whether it has roaches or rats, whether it is close enough to public transportation and stores, etc.)

There is a thing called psychology and it matters and I think you should be more open to educated ideas instead of your opinion.

People dont want to live in trailer parks, they want to get a job to buy their own home.

I suggest instead of having beef with me, ask yourself, whya re all the goverment assisted housing in a state like california, where they have MORE GDP than the friggen entire south, why in those states do they have so much gang crime and muder rates in those ares? why is escaping the ghetto, next to impossible in the BSET case scenario?

Because ghettos, dont work, and its isnane that youre tryign to argue that they do.

You think the visual appearance of the home is more important than those concerns, to lower-class people. We disagree. That's all normal, healthy, "let's have a discussion about our different view points" type stuff.

Home ownership built this country, and homeless people dont not own homes because they cant find one, thats why the middle class dont own homes.

There are like 1,000,000 different reasons people are homeless, so just making shopping malls into housing wont help.

What's not healthy and normal, is when I say something that disagrees with your view, like:

and you respond with a wall of craziness:

No I very much addressed in detail why it doesnt work, but you just want to be a bully, because you and ALL the left are bullies.

explain why education in blue states is so bad?

explain why public housing and gang violence in blue statse is so bad?

explain why hospitals in blue statse are so bad?

I can tell you, because blue politicians that say they care about that stuff so youll vote for them, DONT CARE about it, and until you realize that and stop voting for them, youre never going to get what you want.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:44 PM

some people

loramin, your solution you admit only SOME people would be (not even happy about) but complacent about.

All i am saying is having a home in a goverment ghetto has historically been racist and bad.

You get ghettos and gang violence, and a system that keeps people trapped with no upward mobility.

loramin

11-08-2022, 05:46 PM

loramin, your solution you admit only SOME people would be (not even happy about) but complacent about.

They dont even "WANT" it, you say SOME PEOPLE dont care.

well more people do.

And when you hove a bunch of people who dont care, with people who do, you get ghettos and gang violence, and a system that keeps people trapped with no upward mobility.

I think when you have all the necessities in life, it's easy to forget (or fail to imagine) what life is like without those necessities.

Lower-income members of our society have so many serious challenges to face that the visual appearance of the building they live in has got to rank close to last in priority. That's not the same thing as saying "poor people want to live in ugly homes" ... it's just saying they care about more practical concerns than ugliness.

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 05:49 PM

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:51 PM

I think when you have all the necessities in life, it's easy to forget (or fail to imagine) what life is like without those necessities.

And I think

I think when you have all the necessities in life

Is why privilaged rich people ignore the fact that poor people are people too and therefore want the same things you and I want, which is their own home, not some shitty converted shopping mall prison cell.

But instead of bailing the people out for the housing crash, they bailed out hte people that caused it, and they bought a bunch of houses that people lost and now houses are 3x what they cost in 2007

You racist rich white people have ignored great great minds like MLK and Malcom X that have made it abundantly clear that ghettos have no forward upward mobility since the 1960s

Look, if you were not such a toxic person, you would realize that I too want everyone to have a home.

I just know that what you are talking about is called: SEGRIGATION

You right now, are arguing against me saying that for every 5 houses in a rich nighborhood should be a goverment assisted house for someone of low income, and in that shcool district at least 20% of the people there are from lower income, mixed with higher income.

Your argument is to call me mentally ill because I know that for the last 60 years there has been about 10 billion studies about why the projects produce crime.

But for some reason, that just makes you want to fight ME and insult ME why?

WHY???

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 05:55 PM

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 05:55 PM

Shut up nostalgia quest were having an adult conversation here about politics and its so important that if we disagree we need to have a civil war.

(PS if you're too autistic to know this is a joke then bugger off)

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 05:59 PM

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Jibartik

11-08-2022, 06:04 PM

That is horrible and im kind of bummed that the libs need to take my image of japan

and fucking ruin it

like they fucking ruin EVERYTHING

keep that shit to yourself for real, I like thinking japan is a cool country.

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 06:14 PM

I got a million of these sleepy photos.

loramin

11-08-2022, 06:19 PM

poor people are people too and therefore want the same things you and I want, which is their own home, not some shitty converted shopping mall prison cell.

Look, I'm not saying most people want to live in a former shopping mall. What they want is to find a winning lottery ticket on the ground, and move into a mansion.

But that's not a realistic option. Converting existing structures into housing is a realistic option, one that means more people getting housed. That's a good thing however those structures look on the outside.

Crazy detour

Your argument is to call me mentally ill because I know that for the last 60 years there has been about 10 billion studies about why the projects produce crime.

No, I'm calling you mentally ill because for awhile you talk like a normal person, and then you veer off into arguing with the imaginary people in your head! I never said anything about any houses in any neighborhoods or about ghettos and upward mobility, or any of the nonsense in that last post.

But for some reason, that just makes you want to fight ME and insult ME why?

WHY???

I'm not insulting you, I'm calling it how I see it. Some days we can have a normal conversation, like:

Jib: X is great!

Me: I think you're wrong about X.

Jib: You're wrong, X is awesome!

... and so on. And then days like today it's:

Jib: X is great!

Me: I think you're wrong about X.

Jib: Makes me sad that in these communities gang violence and lack of community is the biggest problem, and you thnk people dont care about thier home.

I honestly makes me sad that you believe that people, every person, doesn't have a right to a home that they care about in this country, and I fear the world you want to build.

I know from experience the world you want to abandon is great. I dont want to live in this world where YOU get to decide what POOR people want.

Poor people want their dollar to not be worth 10% less than it is!

They dont want the good guys to tax them for buying a soda.

They want better education that YOUR PARTY complains about but CANT DELIVER in their OWN CITIES AND STATES.

They want more Jobs that YOUR PARTY cant DLIEVER IN THEIR OWN CITIES AND STATES

they want communities, that YOUR PARTY wont ALLOW becasue they WONT STOP police VIOLENCE in THEIR OWN DEMOCRAT CITIES AND STATES.

There are blue states, where you coudl makea difference.

But you people dont care about making a difference.

Youre mad about GOP and DNC shit, from your childhood. Post Iraq War Anti Religion Lefitism

Thats all the DNC base is right now, you dont care about a single issue: JUST BEATING TRUMP

just stopping CONSPIRACY THEORY

poor people dont CARE about conspiracy theory

they dont care about jan 6th

they want the bankers and wallstreet and the trillions of dollars being stolen out of the hands of workers, to STOP and the party doing it is the DEMOCRATS.

Danth

11-08-2022, 06:20 PM

like they fucking ruin EVERYTHING

Two basic kinds of people, Jib: You have the folks who build things, then you have folks who only know how to break stuff. That issue is as old as humanity.

I don't know how your preferred method of integration would work in practice, though. When similar efforts were tried in the past it simply resulted in everyone who could afford to move, doing so. Urban centers decayed, suburban sprawl became an epidemic, and the original problem ultimately remained. I don't see how to fix that issue in a nation where people have freedom of movement. You can't hold a gun to people's heads and force them to live next door to people they hate, at least not if you want America to remain America.

Government-subsidized housing is probably a band-aid, not a very good one, but better than homelessness. The real long-term solution is policy that promotes local business and on-shore production and generally a promotion of good-paying work. Service sector work doesn't count and should be regarded as societal poison. Maybe take a page out of FDR's book and create a modern day nationwide TVA for that purpose.

Danth

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 06:25 PM

I really think the best way is to make homes more accessable, realize that when the coasts were vastly un developed just 50 years ago, that they are simply not now, and that supply and demand for homes may not be at the breaking point, but it does have a breaking point.

And if it does, and we're not there, we better start steering the ship in the right direction.

Or another occupy, BLM, january 6th, is right around the corner.

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 06:25 PM

Drink responsibly Tokyo

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 06:27 PM

You know those people live in little cubbies so I dont think that's the right solution.

Danth

11-08-2022, 06:35 PM

You know those people live in little cubbies so I dont think that's the right solution.

I loaded his images so I could see what you were complaining about. If anything he unintentionally makes Japan look pretty good. He's actively trying to cherry-pick stuff to make it look bad and the worst he finds are some passed-out drunks. Meanwhile stateside plenty of urban neighborhoods are full of ruined and decaying buildings and infrastructure, boarded-up houses shot full of bullet holes, trash and filth everywhere, and other far more serious problems. His pictures don't seem particularly objectionable.

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 06:43 PM

Danth

11-08-2022, 06:44 PM

Lol you’re reading wayyyy too far into it. I’m just posting pictures so loramin and Jib will shut up. Taking pictures of drunk Japanese people is fun because you know they’re safe. No one is going to rob or harass them (other than my dumb gaijin ass taking photos). They’ll wake up and wander back into society.

Was simply taking Jib's word on it, but your clarification clears that up nicely.

Does the alcohol abuse over there fuel petty crime (vandalism, fights, etc) to the extent it does stateside?

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 06:52 PM

up until this woke japan thread I had no idea puking salaryman was even a thing now I look down upon their culture, nice work!

but it did work as a good distraction.

https://i.imgur.com/Rjz8Yg7.gif

*make people xeanphobic about japan culutre

https://i.imgur.com/BiNVd6H.gif

nostalgiaquest

11-08-2022, 07:02 PM

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 07:08 PM

eople a culturally acceptable excuse to break free from the rigid societal standards like being quiet and keeping in line.

im not being the usual penis I am but I really think that is why its so popular there, Ive heard that before too.

I dont think I know much about petty crime in japan or hear about it at all, i assume thats a cultural thing. Americans are about individual greatness, while theyre more like, communal and tolerant of each other am I wrong? idk

But what I DO know is that they be walking around puking on literally everything

Reiwa

11-08-2022, 07:12 PM

https://i.imgur.com/Rjz8Yg7.gif

The two tyrant lizards are tearing the average voter in half.

Poor fella just wanted to save everyone.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 07:14 PM

reptoids 👁️⃤ do what a reptoid does.

Danth

11-08-2022, 07:33 PM

reptoids ��️⃤ do what a reptoid does.

Every time you talk about reptile-people I feel as though you're telling us that the 1980's miniseries "V" was a documentary. It's about fascist lizard-men, after all. I may have said something to that effect before but I still get that impression.

unsunghero

11-08-2022, 07:51 PM

From my experience, alcohol gave people a culturally acceptable excuse to break free from the rigid societal standards like being quiet and keeping in line. The 7pm train going out to the bars was always dead silent, but on the 1 am train home people would be taking and laughing and having a good time.

I never experienced any angry or violent drunks there, except maybe a few American military folks lol.

But it’s also not that simple. Often times salary men are required to go drinking with their coworkers after work. And if they don’t they’re looked down upon in the office. Sounds fun at first, but not so much when it’s involuntary.

Is it true it’s custom to drink at business meetings there?

I didn’t realize there was so much alcoholism in Japan. I thought those people were just sleeping…

Sake tastes like ass too. Although the really expensive chilled sake tastes like water. I threw up from underestimating and over drinking that stuff because it was so smooth

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 08:05 PM

Every time you talk about reptile-people I feel as though you're telling us that the 1980's miniseries "V" was a documentary. It's about fascist lizard-men, after all. I may have said something to that effect before but I still get that impression.

it might be lol :p

https://u.osu.edu/vanzandt/2018/04/18/predictive-programming/

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 08:07 PM

do you notice how when danth says reptoids the shadow system disguises the eye and changes it from a triangle to a square, obscuring his vision of those that control him is obscured, and he believes that the truth, is something that it is not.

see how conspiracy theory works its awesome :D

KZErvASwdlU

loramin

11-08-2022, 08:09 PM

I didn’t realize there was so much alcoholism in Japan. I thought those people were just sleeping…

Unless you count tobacco, there are literally no other drugs in the country. Ok, not literally, but being both on an island, and being fairly conservative, Japan is able to prevent just about everything except alcohol from reaching their people.

And people need to unwind somehow, so all that pent-up energy just gets channeled into alcohol ... even though it'd be way more healthy for them to smoke a spliff from time to time.

Sake tastes like ass too. Although the really expensive chilled sake tastes like water. I threw up from underestimating and over drinking that stuff because it was so smooth

You need to have some better sake :) Some of it is quite tasty.

Jibartik

11-08-2022, 08:11 PM

oh if people drink themselves into a stupor because they work too hard for the system it's they gotta unwind somehow

but if its the workers revolt against a corrupt political system that stole their future it's an "insurrection"

i see how it is

Basanos

11-09-2022, 09:01 AM

Is it true it’s custom to drink at business meetings there?

I didn’t realize there was so much alcoholism in Japan. I thought those people were just sleeping…

Sake tastes like ass too. Although the really expensive chilled sake tastes like water. I threw up from underestimating and over drinking that stuff because it was so smoothFirst thing my brother told me when we got there was "There are no public intoxication laws in Japan".

Sake can be good, can be okay, but I'm an alcoholic and will drink any ogre swill anyone puts in front of me. Or I was back in 2014 anyways. I was enamored with shōchū in the ~week I spent there. Have not found any good versions here, but I didn't look real hard and no longer drink so I can't say.

magnetaress

11-09-2022, 10:03 AM

Mblake1981

11-09-2022, 12:05 PM

You need to have some better sake :) Some of it is quite tasty.

https://i.imgur.com/NdqUPX0.jpg

Chortles Snortles

11-09-2022, 12:23 PM

loramin in a nutshell
(lol)

Mblake1981

11-09-2022, 01:40 PM

https://i.imgur.com/VrPURSz.jpg

nostalgiaquest

11-09-2022, 07:18 PM

Unless you count tobacco, there are literally no other drugs in the country. Ok, not literally, but being both on an island, and being fairly conservative, Japan is able to prevent just about everything except alcohol from reaching their people.

Not really true. There's less drug use than say America for sure, but there's plenty of drug use in Japan. It's just not talked about. It took me about a year to figure out, but i was able to buy weed pretty much whenever I wanted, most if not all of it grown in country. It was fuckin expensive though at roughly 50 dollars a gram. It used to be commonly used, but after WWII big brother America came in and convinced them it was bad. Most shrines have big bells with ropes made of hemp. CBD is also legal there.

Uppers like coke and meth are pretty popular as well, especially in the salaryman culture as a way to stay up and work crazy hours. I did acid once or twice a year, and you can buy codeine syrup over the counter. Up until 2002 mushrooms were legal and sold in vending machines.

Is it true it’s custom to drink at business meetings there?

I didn’t realize there was so much alcoholism in Japan. I thought those people were just sleeping…

Sake tastes like ass too. Although the really expensive chilled sake tastes like water. I threw up from underestimating and over drinking that stuff because it was so smooth

You don't drink at business meetings per say, but after work is when you're expected to go drinking with your bosses and coworkers. It does serve a purpose though - when you're at work, it's discouraged to tell your boss he's wrong about something, but like i mentioned earlier, when drunk those societal norms erode.

i've never lived in a place where alcoholism is so accepted culturally, and I went to Chico State lol. It can be really fun, but gets pretty dark if you really think about it.

My guess is you've never had good sake. if it's served hot or cold, it's garbage and they're using the temperature to try and hide that. Good sake should be served slightly chilled or at room temp, just like wine. And like wine there's all sorts of different varieties and techniques used to make it.

It always make me laugh when people idolize Japan as some kind of magical utopia. It's just as fucked up as any other country, just in its own unique ways.

Jibartik

11-09-2022, 07:25 PM

Well, im glad we cleared up that there is no utopias and everywhere sucks.

On to having a great day!

loramin

11-09-2022, 07:28 PM

Not really true. There's less drug use than say America for sure, but there's plenty of drug use in Japan. It's just not talked about. It took me about a year to figure out, but i was able to buy weed pretty much whenever I wanted, most if not all of it grown in country. It was fuckin expensive though at roughly 50 dollars a gram. It used to be commonly used, but after WWII big brother America came in and convinced them it was bad. Most shrines have big bells with ropes made of hemp. CBD is also legal there.

Uppers like coke and meth are pretty popular as well, especially in the salaryman culture as a way to stay up and work crazy hours. I did acid once or twice a year, and you can buy codeine syrup over the counter. Up until 2002 mushrooms were legal and sold in vending machines.

Interesting. Were you staying in an urban area or a rural one?

nostalgiaquest

11-09-2022, 07:42 PM

I’d say urban, although it was outside the main city. I was in a smaller beach town about 20 minutes outside Yokohama or an hour to Tokyo. Being a small hippyish beach town probabaly explains why weed was easy to get. I think the yakuza run most of the drug trade and distribution, and we had a couple local yaks in town to keep an eye on things. They were surprisingly nice guys lol. But also probabaly low in the food chain, which is why they were in the beach town and not the big city.

nostalgiaquest

11-09-2022, 07:51 PM

I just reminded myself of the time I dropped acid and went to this crazy place called the Robot Restaurant in Tokyo. Not much of an actual restaurant, it was a crazy ass stage show with scantily clad girls, robot dinosaurs, and crazy neon lights. It was almost too much. I just looked it up and sadly it’s now closed. Imagine tripping balls and see this wild shit. Oh Japan, I do miss you sometimes.

Chortles Snortles

11-09-2022, 08:57 PM

imagine paying to see that and NOT getting to bang the girls
(lol)

Kaveh

11-09-2022, 09:01 PM

Per se* guys

It’s Latin and when you say per say you reflect poorly on the United States

Mblake1981

11-09-2022, 09:09 PM

Per se* guys

It’s Latin and when you say per say you reflect poorly on the United States

I pronounce it A-Loo-Min-Um but not Al-ooo-Min-Yum.

Gatordash

11-09-2022, 09:45 PM

prolly been awhile since someone commented on the OP but these "sleep pods" are just jack-off pods right? aint no one sleeping in that.

nostalgiaquest

11-10-2022, 03:28 AM

Mater tua tam obesa est ut cum Romae est urbs habet octo colles

Vormotus

11-10-2022, 03:45 AM

I really really like Japan and I dont even like Schoolgirl Anime

I have been to USA, Spain, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Turkey, Australia , Greece and Japan ...

Of all those countries, the only one where I would rather live is Japan.

I dont have a fascination for the Nipon culture either, it is just the cleanest and safest place of all those countries I mentioned that I have personally visited.

As a foreigner and non american that has travelled a lot, Japan is actually as a country a good place to live.

Since I am a bit of an hermit and dont like to socialize much outside of my decades long group of rl friends spread all over the world I dont mind much the cold shoulder the japanese give to foreigners either.

Nor do I mind the language and cultural barrier, if you behave like a decent human being, dont steal and know beforehand which places you are allowed to go and which ones dont (like pretty much everywhere else) the customer service quality in Japan is simply impossible to find in any other place.

As a gaijin foreigner I have been treated more decently there than in many other countries and if you go out of Tokyo and go to places like Kobe you will even feel a bit more welcome.

Again my experience, YMMV.

Mblake1981

11-10-2022, 04:26 AM

Pardon me, just going to clean this real quick. Don't mind me.

https://i.imgur.com/cbflGLI.jpg

Jibartik

11-10-2022, 04:35 AM

Lose socks were a thing back in everquests day. I know that much about Japan.

magnetaress

11-10-2022, 09:56 AM

Aloo min eeee uhmm

Dude. Ur camera was also tripping balls lol.

Tethler

11-11-2022, 12:10 AM

Pardon me, just going to clean this real quick. Don't mind me.

https://i.imgur.com/cbflGLI.jpg

I love not having to hear about the daily gun violence body count on the nightly news in Japan. I witnessed shootings and a convenience store robbery in america.

News here is like: Little girls dog ran away and 20 neighbors combed the area. Dog found taking nap at park. Nobody shot by gun.

Mblake1981

11-11-2022, 12:43 AM

https://i.imgur.com/9NTRj3r.jpg

Reiwa

11-11-2022, 12:58 AM

I love not having to hear about the daily gun violence body count on the nightly news in Japan. I witnessed shootings and a convenience store robbery in america.

News here is like: Little girls dog ran away and 20 neighbors combed the area. Dog found taking nap at park. Nobody shot by gun.

Little girl: grows up and works at a pinsaro

Tethler

11-11-2022, 01:27 AM

Little girl: grows up and works at a pinsaro

A what?

Tethler

11-11-2022, 01:29 AM

https://i.imgur.com/9NTRj3r.jpg

Indeed, that is the face I make knowing I don't risk death going to work/supermarket/post office/school/bank/convenience store/bowling alley/beach/car wash/your mom's house

Reiwa

11-11-2022, 01:34 AM

A what?

Baka gaijin not allowed tho, stupid bakas.

Kaveh

11-11-2022, 01:54 AM

Indeed, that is the face I make knowing I don't risk death going to work/supermarket/post office/school/bank/convenience store/bowling alley/beach/car wash/your mom's house

You’ve never been to a bank debtor

Reiwa

11-11-2022, 01:55 AM

処女

(水揚げ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizuage)

Tethler

11-11-2022, 02:16 AM

You’ve never been to a bank debtor

Lol

Tethler

11-11-2022, 02:19 AM

unsunghero

11-11-2022, 02:43 AM

Tethler

11-11-2022, 03:12 AM

unsunghero

11-11-2022, 03:28 AM

I mean, everyone always says "I see it on TV, but I never expected it to happen here!" Until it does.

Though I've been in close proximity to gunfire (one was a drive-by on the opposite side of the street where I was walking, and the other, an altercation in a parking lot), and it's quite distressing, I didn't personally feel I was in mortal danger because I wasn't the target.

Even so, I can't emphasize enough how nice it is to not even have to think about it happening. I haven't looked recently, but I seem to remember statistics of something like 10 firearms deaths on average a year. Thats like a quiet morning in Chicago.

Tru Tru on the always a first time for everything

Although, when you look at the statistics of gun violence, from what I recall the majority of it tends to come from specific blocks of specific cities. Like the majority of the city is pretty ok, but there's some specific spots that are fucking warzones. I've seen some articles presenting this back in the day. But I haven't been keeping major tabs on it or anything though

Mblake1981

11-11-2022, 03:50 AM

..just another place to live in the world, good points bad points.

For me, personally, the good points outweigh the bad, so I've enjoyed my going on 6 years in Japan, and have no plans to move back to the states any time soon.

Cool.

https://i.imgur.com/b5x36RD.jpg

Vormotus

11-11-2022, 06:15 AM

For real though, Japan is just another place to live in the world. Has its good points and bad points, just like any other place.

For me, personally, the good points outweigh the bad, so I've enjoyed my going on 6 years in Japan, and have no plans to move back to the states any time soon.

Set reasonable expectations and life can be as good (or bad) as you make it.

I have a new trip pending for biz in Japan soon.

Last time the company had to give me a letter so I could go to the Japan embassy for some bureaucratic tape cutting so I could be received in proper ways there by the company upon arrival

Unlike other embassies I have had to go for visas or other traveling arrangements, the Japanese one has been the more polite if not the more expedient and the less aggressive overall to me in matters of security upon walking in.

I mean I get what you imply. Japan has a lot of bads if you expect it to be a way it is not.

One of my co workers hated it because he was not allowed to the special brothels due to his looks and severe lack of understanding of the Japanese Language.

Another hated it as well because he loved going to Shinjuku to spend a lot of his money on the local flavors of women but after the recent lift of the travel ban, he went there in october and returned sad to see how many of the special sex shops for foreigners had to close down after covid and he bumped into the same issue as the other coworker of not being able to enjoy a certain type of sex experience as it was de facto barred to him due to being gaijin.

Personally I dont travel to enjoy prostitution or drugs so their points are moot to me , but for them the country offers nothing much besides work and annoying meetings than end up in long dinners , as an example one friend had to go to dinners where he is "bribed" with japanese women (which he doesnt enjoy) and its usually a tiresome chore for him and unpleasant as well as some of the women he is forced to sit alongside are usually coerced to try to be "available" to him. The whole thing is very uncomfortable . This also happened on his last trip.

He hates dealing with some of the service providers vying for his favor as they usually read him extremely wrong.

Another co worker asked for a costly transfer after he found out his budding family was a tiresome noise complaint machine from neighbors as his small kid made noises the japanese neighbors could not tolerate, which led to a lot of issues in the building he was assigned to. He had to work a good portion of his contract in a temporal housing that was not very good as he was practically persona non grata in the building. Seems the japanese dont care if you have kids and they make any high noise, it is simply a no no and your fault for having noisy kids.

And many other stories but anyway, the point is Japan is great and amazing over many other countries if you know what you want out of it and know where to live.

Some people I have seen enjoy it greatly, others cant see beyond their contract expiry date so they can flee back to their own home country.

Regarding tastes theres a friend of mine that enjoys the poverty driven and sand hut experience in Egypt when he goes to Cairo for biz as well, I hate that severely, but he has this weird fascination with poor countries and finds them "more real" than his own.

People are weird in what they like and enjoy, so Japan is like any other country in that regard.

For me, I love it. Super Clean and in no other place of earth any kind of customer service is as good as there, I really mean it , no other. The Japanese credo of Omotenashi is something I enjoy beyond anything thoroughly and completely.

Again I dont go to buy anime , hentai, drugs, prostitution or relationships with men or women of any nature ... I mostly go there to enjoy good meals and excellent eating environments and quality service in the best out of the way and semi hidden little restaurants with true japanese cooking artisans.

Japan excels there, specially as I am super picky with food, it is sheer bliss , specially after a long day of work.

Most people I know from my company thgat go there end up eating at fast food joints and then go to sleep lol. :D

But Japan is the only place I know where some people play this game of choosing a street and eating out in all the restaurants , food stalls and kiosks they can find there to try new things over the course of several weeks.

And unlike other countries these places are so small you have a single counter with stools and a single cook or two that literally cook ANYTHING you want out of them (some places and you have to bring your own stuff to be cooked there) or amaze you with their decades long specialties (others)

Every single restaurant is an unique experience, some of them specialize in signature dishes, others more private are like open kitchens with lots of beer.

Eating out in Japan is something that I have never experienced in any other country, specially as Tokyo has spaces that are planned for actual walking and you walk around smelling the air and wondering what surprises the night might bring knowing you will be treated extremely well and with respect.

MMmm ... yes. Japan is the best. for me anyway.

If I could I would live there , but its beyond my area of expertise and I speak 0 japanese, but have good japanese friends than indulge my whims and translate everything for me :)

I also tend to like certain flavors and textures of food that most westerners find too "sirupy" or too "soupy-chewy" to try to give you a hint, and its always fun seeing people wanting to try "real" japanese cuisine and end up eating at mc donalds for the rest of the trip :D

Oh well ... now I am nostalgic for my last trip there.

Love to everyone! Hugs!

Vormotus

11-11-2022, 06:23 AM

Little girl: grows up and works at a pinsaro

LOOOOOOOOOL ...

I think I am very different as I never understood the fascination with Asian Women.

Some guys at the office go head over heels when they get assigned for a japan trip.

IBut me, nope, not really into that, but hey, some guys literally lose their heads haha

Toxigen

11-11-2022, 09:02 AM

all i know is if im ever in japan im climbing mount fuji

magnetaress

11-11-2022, 09:33 AM

So Japan isn't racist.

They just know filthy gaijin barbarian are filthy. And huge :p

uW1vpaTaOm0

Tethler

11-11-2022, 11:08 AM

Tethler

11-11-2022, 11:09 AM

all i know is if im ever in japan im climbing mount fuji

This is on my list too. Lot of people go up at night to see the sunrise from the top.

Toxigen

11-11-2022, 11:09 AM

So Japan isn't racist.

They just know filthy gaijin barbarian are filthy. And huge :p

uW1vpaTaOm0

but the chinese def are

Few8kJ0zfnY

Tethler

11-11-2022, 11:11 AM

but the chinese def are

Few8kJ0zfnY

Holy shit, lol

magnetaress

11-11-2022, 12:10 PM

dude iraq and afghanistan so well known for its chinese brothels and sex trafficking

(not condoning it just saying u plebes have no fuckin idea lol)

magnetaress

11-11-2022, 12:11 PM

also ya htey are going ti give everyone magic pills that make u chinese (and u will be better off for it imo)

magnetaress

11-11-2022, 12:12 PM

actually there are a lot of dark skinned chinese but they are trash chinese according to the chinese government and cultural standards they go to the farm so ya pretty racist

the beta version of the pill will make u a dark chinese until they work out the kinks (which they never will because they wont share their wealth with the loweer classes either)

Tethler

11-11-2022, 10:53 PM

Vormotus

11-12-2022, 02:55 AM

So Japan isn't racist.

They just know filthy gaijin barbarian are filthy. And huge :p

uW1vpaTaOm0

OMG this ... this is GOLD!

I will distribute it on the company slack LOOOOOOOLLLLL ty ty ty ! :D

Vormotus

11-12-2022, 03:11 AM

I never understood sex tourism. Being with someone that wants to be with you is going to be a much better experience than paying someone to law down and open their legs. I'd rather take a shot trying to pick someone up and failing, than paying a decent chunk of change for bad sex.

Well, this is ... let me put it this way.

I work with a lot of older, mature, with kids and family men.

Believe it or not, these kinds of "services" are the only places where they can "relax".

Is it good, moral, healthy? That is another topic and usually speaks more about you than they.

Point being is that some men can only find solace and comfort in prostitution.

And I am not talking low income blue collar men, I am talking white collar professionals that work for multinational corporations.

I can remember right away several that despite their "success" , salaries, jobs, gadgets whatnot yadda yadda , they are much more comfortable in these type of stablishments and using these services than asking their wives and girlfriends for "kinky" or even "plain" stuff.

I dont want to sound like a "macho" guy, but despite all the current (and positive) effort in understanding women for example, there is a very specific subsector of manhood that is poorly understood by the common people.

Men, like women have feelings, needs and wants that are usually put aside and shoehorned for their "expected" roles in society , family and social relationships.

Not all men are rapists horny patriarchal representatives of the subjugation of women, some men, a good chunk of them are just guys that want what is expected from them and sometimes lack the emotional and psychological tools to express their needs in a way that is healthy for them or that will not let them be ridiculed.

I dont want to turn this into a us vs them wordplay, just want to give you an insight into why as a species we also need to teach men to properly cope with their own emotional needs without ridicule, because for those men, sometimes it is extremely easy and gratifying to just pay for it and be done with it.

Not all men that consume these services are amoral beasts of lust nor representatives of Cultural Oppression ... they are just guys that can only cope with the stress of their own lives in that way.

Any moral judgment is moot , because they will continue doing it and yes, prostitution can lead to a lot of very bad things, but again that is like beyond the small single point I am trying to convey.

I dont like doing that, neither do you, but A LOT of men enjoy it and find their only emotional drain in that.

Even the Jap guy in the video posted earlier jokingly says that is the only way for them to have meaningful and good sex, because they cant have it with their wives ... and that is not only a japanese thing.

I have seen men derive as much pleasure from their wives in any kind of situation , sexual or affection related as grating their own balls with a industrial size cheese grater.

So yeah, going to a establishment is much better, heck even more emotionally satisfying for them.

I do not judge them, and one of my closest friends found release and even a better relationship with his wife after going to these places, by my recommendation in Australia , where prostitution is not only legal but highly regulated.

Hope this helps you understand why some men do it.

Hope you have a wonderful day fellow P99 player! Big hugs to you!

Cheers!

Tethler

11-12-2022, 03:23 AM

magnetaress

11-12-2022, 09:44 AM

Vormotus

Dumping volumes of truth here in this thread.

Listen up boys.

It's still healthier to become an asexual. Even in Japan.

unsunghero

11-12-2022, 04:05 PM

magnetaress

11-12-2022, 04:09 PM

I'm learning assembly so machines can eat you alive and turn u into biofule XD

Jibartik

11-12-2022, 05:02 PM

I'm learning assembly so machines can eat you alive and turn u into biofule XD

:D

magnetaress

11-12-2022, 05:16 PM

I acctually learned how to have a passibly female sounding voice tho like my #1 big accomplishment in life

i'm really too dumb to do assembly so no artificial wombs for me

Vormotus

11-13-2022, 07:05 AM

I said nothing about the morality of it. People can do what they want as far as I'm concerned.

I'm more commenting on the quality. Logically, someone who actually wants to fuck you is likely going to put in more effort and have more fun with it than someone who is economically motivated to just get their client off quickly so they can move on to the next. I suppose there would be exceptions, but to me, it just seems like a waste.

Since I know a LOT of "users" of the service, the common consensus is that after a certain pay threshold, the escorts not only are better sex than tinder hookups, speed datings or even regular dates, but actually more enticing, fulfilling and something to strive for after a while.

The "get it out fast" mentality is for a certain type of sex worker within a certain pay threshold.

These guys usually blow 10k a month on 600 to 1500 sew workers, they have shown me some of the private pages they use and 30 min for 600$ is common with 5k for a whole day/weekend sometimes depending on the escort.

One of my coworkers blew 12k in a single day in an Australian brothel (cheapest escorts are around 500$ an hour)

Also it is common knowledge that randos usually are more dirty than vip escorts, in the fact that they check themselves more regularly for stds and take better care of themselves and according to a particular good friend of mine that works like a mule to spend in girlfriend experiences in London. they are even cleaner than regular women as well haha.

Where I live in latinamerica most off the street escorts are around 20 to 50$ the hour and service is like you mention: do it quick.

These guys go for girlfriend experiences, weekend yach resorts with selected escorts and one of them once got invited to these eurppean "model" ibiza/mediterranean tours.

Its just a different world out there and if these medium to high tier escorts were of the do it quick mindset they would not be charging that much.:D

Anyway I once on a trip managed to find these girls quite enticing and actually good talk, some of them were Psychologists like me and we had fun chats for the whole night plus dancing and flirting, which was quite good.

When I told them I wasnt there for the sex they just shrugged and mentioned it was ok, it is common for some guys just to talk and do more normal stuff like just hanging out, and they were actually quite beautiful women, well educated and drug free.

Not all prostitution is equal in the world, just saying.

Some of these girls for the money will not only give you a better experience but add sometimes something extra that comes from experience.

I only managed to glimpse that world due to me making friends with some of the office guys in higher tiers. but you need heavy cash to make that work and they work hard to experience these trips.

Just sharing

Cheers!

Tethler

11-13-2022, 07:10 AM

Since I know a LOT of "users" of the service, the common consensus is that after a certain pay threshold, the escorts not only are better sex than tinder hookups, speed datings or even regular dates, but actually more enticing, fulfilling and something to strive for after a while.

The "get it out fast" mentality is for a certain type of sex worker within a certain pay threshold.

These guys usually blow 10k a month on 600 to 1500 sew workers, they have shown me some of the private pages they use and 30 min for 600$ is common with 5k for a whole day/weekend sometimes depending on the escort.

One of my coworkers blew 12k in a single day in an Australian brothel (cheapest escorts are around 500$ an hour)

Also it is common knowledge that randos usually are more dirty than vip escorts, in the fact that they check themselves more regularly for stds and take better care of themselves and according to a particular good friend of mine that works like a mule to spend in girlfriend experiences in London. they are even cleaner than regular women as well haha.

Where I live in latinamerica most off the street escorts are around 20 to 50$ the hour and service is like you mention: do it quick.

These guys go for girlfriend experiences, weekend yach resorts with selected escorts and one of them once got invited to these eurppean "model" ibiza/mediterranean tours.

Its just a different world out there and if these medium to high tier escorts were of the do it quick mindset they would not be charging that much.:D

Anyway I once on a trip managed to find these girls quite enticing and actually good talk, some of them were Psychologists like me and we had fun chats for the whole night plus dancing and flirting, which was quite good.

When I told them I wasnt there for the sex they just shrugged and mentioned it was ok, it is common for some guys just to talk and do more normal stuff like just hanging out, and they were actually quite beautiful women, well educated and drug free.

Not all prostitution is equal in the world, just saying.

Some of these girls for the money will not only give you a better experience but add sometimes something extra that comes from experience.

I only managed to glimpse that world due to me making friends with some of the office guys in higher tiers. but you need heavy cash to make that work and they work hard to experience these trips.

Just sharing

Cheers!

Sure, that all makes sense. I guess I hadn't thought about it much since I don't partake.