Developer Input - CPU Limit Cutoff

[Korcewynd]

After having recently built up a new computer I started running into the 1017 Error. Its a regular and recurring issue for people here. It effects mostly project 1999 servers. It kicks you after server select back to login.

If I reboot and in my BIOS downclock my processor I can then load into windows and get it so that I can login to Project1999. Currently I have been able to login at 4Ghz clock. 4.5 Ghz it will fail. Do the Server Admins or Developers know exactly where that cutoff is? Is it 4.111 etc.

Can this be changed or boosted?

One thought I have had (and not had time to test yet) Is to try downclocking 1 core and then setting the affinity of the eqgame to that process (right now its just set to 1)

So there is a question around that? How are you detecting CPU speed? Other servers allow you to login but the animation is all jacked even using wineq2. (obviously a problem there with the faster processors)

Do you detect the core speed? Or whatever the overall processor is reporting? If I downclock a single core and set affinity would that theoretically work or would I just end up beating my head against a brick wall.

[Valrok]

I currently have my processor (i9 12900k) working fine with P99 and the EQEmu login server selects.

When I get home I will see what it is currently running at but I have never downclocked it.

Also, are you getting booted back to login when you click on other servers as well (just for testing)?

[Korcewynd]

I only have gotten kicked back to login on p99 server (Blue) but not on any of the other 2 I tried. (I could get there names) Thats not to say that the game was playable. The ani mations were so sped up it looked like someone had hit the fast forward button.

According to this page:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134599/intel-core-i912900k-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html

Your clock speed isnt over 4Ghz but the boot clock can go to 5.2Ghz... something tells me Everquest isnt causing your PC to feel like it needs to boost haha.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-9-7900x
The base clock is sitting at 4.7Ghz and boosting to 5.6Ghz. (again probably has nothing to do with the boost clock.)

I do have a couple of things left to play with.

- Can I downclock just a single core and set Everquest to run on that core. (we can set the affinity yes, but it wont do us any good if the server is checking clock speed at login and kicking you based on that)

- What is the highest I can push it. I just know that limit is somewhere between 4 and 4.5 right now.

[Korcewynd]

Additionally... Boost might not matter. If its simply a check when you connect.

[atomos]

See this thread for some rather interesting troubleshooting I did on the matter.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409461

Have not done in-game testing yet to see if there are those animation issues you mentioned.

[Korcewynd]

So I did find out that running the game in a VM Workstation VM and using the setting

timetracker.apparentHz = "4000000000"

in your vmx file (sets it to 4Ghz) allows you to login to Project99. It does not actually limit the speed of your vm. (I tried to find something that did that but its only available on ESX / baremetal hypervisors.)

It is not ideal. I still get the same regular crashes switching characters that I think everyone experiences where you have to close out the client completely. I also have a new bug where some textures do not load up until you zone again. That can be annoying. Also had a couple of random freezes.

At least I dont have to gimp the new CPU speed by 1-2 Ghz just to play EQ though. Its also obvious that the server can handle the VM running at that speed. SO maybe a patch could fix this?

[orangefrog]

If anyone plans to purchase a new computer from this point forward, you won't be able to run Project1999 anymore.

I purchased the lowest level Ryzen chip a couple of months ago, spent a week trying to get the game to run on the new PC using all sorts of tricks, processor affinities, downclocking, nothing worked. Ended up just using an old laptop while my shiny new PC sits there and collects dust until I use it to play another game or for office work.

After some reading, I think it has to do with the anti-cheat that P99 uses for speedhacking and the new processors trigger it every time. Its not a matter of whether this should be fixed--that's obvious. As time goes on and people upgrade their PC's, people simply won't be able to play the game anymore. New people trying to install the game (people's kids, friends) will most likely just give up. Hopefully a dev finds the time to dig into that mechanism and update the code with this in mind before it affects the server populations too much.

[Willigetin]

I too am experiencing the same issues. Get passed login screen, then to server select but as soon as i select a server (Green in my case) i get booted back to login screen. This is devastating as now I can't even play at all and I just spent thousands of $$ on a new PC and already got rid of my Intel setup. I really hope this can get fixed.

[Drunkennewbie]

Has anyone found a fix to this?

[Willigetin]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

[Drunkennewbie]

I really dont want to have to underclock a processor for full computer.... Im using a R7 7700 4.5.

There has to be a way to throttle it back just for one app.

[Korcewynd]

Yea I have not had any luck with anything in game. The only thing that works is downclocking in the bios.

[Headcase_Fargone]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

This is what I've been doing but I have a side effect of my Windows clock constantly running fast. This only happens when the multiplier is forced to 42. The longer Windows goes without rebooting the more my time is off.

[arc]

my shit runs at 4.9ghz and ive never seen this error

i9 10900k

edit: even before swapping to dgvoodoo2 I never saw that error

[corymaloy]

I too have this issue. I get an error after selecting a p1999 server and trying to log into it. Going to try downclocking now, but that is very lame. They need to update this or pops going to keep going down.

[Jimjam]

I too have this issue. I get an error after selecting a p1999 server and trying to log into it. Going to try downclocking now, but that is very lame. They need to update this or pops going to keep going down.

Have you a suggestion how how an update could be implemented to resolve the issue?

[PabloEdvardo]

Unfortunately this may be a problem with the era of the client we're using.

It looks like the devs addressed the timing behavior in the client around 2015: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/overclocked-intel-cpu-speed-up-issue.226087/#post-3314217

[Gustoo]

Good thread will follow

[Headcase_Fargone]

my shit runs at 4.9ghz and ive never seen this error

i9 10900k

edit: even before swapping to dgvoodoo2 I never saw that error

I posted about this on the P99 sub-Reddit and a few people said the same thing. It's sounding like the only CPUs affected by this are AMD.

[smasherprog]

Downclocking from 4.5 to 4.2 will be a 1 or 2% decrease in maximum perf. For regular everyday work there us no measurable impact.

[Headcase_Fargone]

Downclocking from 4.5 to 4.2 will be a 1 or 2% decrease in maximum perf. For regular everyday work there us no measurable impact.

The main issue I've run into is it's causing havoc with the clock in Windows. It constantly runs fast when it's underclocked. In order to RDP into work I have to manually hit sync, otherwise security measures don't like the 7+ minute difference that I end up with.

I'm also not getting the boost to 5.7 that I normally would.

[zipxavier]

I built a new PC a few weeks ago with a Ryzen 7950x3d. Never had an issue with P99 on it or my old 5950x. I don't have to downclock or anything.

I'm boosting to 5.3 while the game is running no problem. It's got to be something else, not just an AMD problem.

[Chloroform]

I built a new PC a few weeks ago with a Ryzen 7950x3d. Never had an issue with P99 on it or my old 5950x. I don't have to downclock or anything.

I'm boosting to 5.3 while the game is running no problem. It's got to be something else, not just an AMD problem.

im using a 7900x and im having this issue, 7900x on a ROG STRIX B650E-F with DDR5 6000 CL36

[corymaloy]

I was able to "resolve" the issue by downclocking my 7950x by a few hundred megahertz. However this issue only seems to happen when trying to log into p1999. The other custom servers work fine. This leads me to believe its some sort of antihack type software that only p1999 uses? Not sure.

Hope it gets fixed, because underclocking my system causes instability in other applications, and having to reboot and change clocks every time I want to play a game is super inconvenient.

[Chloroform]

I was able to "resolve" the issue by downclocking my 7950x by a few hundred megahertz. However this issue only seems to happen when trying to log into p1999. The other custom servers work fine. This leads me to believe its some sort of antihack type software that only p1999 uses? Not sure.

Hope it gets fixed, because underclocking my system causes instability in other applications, and having to reboot and change clocks every time I want to play a game is super inconvenient.

im hoping something changes. as people get new pc's they wont beable to play p99!? seems depressing lol

[Jimjam]

im hoping something changes. as people get new pc's they wont beable to play p99!? seems depressing lol

I mean maybe 25 years is enough playing a glitchy, unbalanced, unlicensed virtual dnd rip off?

[Topgunben]

I’m still having this issue. Anyone figure out what the culprit is?

[Willigetin]

I built a new PC a few weeks ago with a Ryzen 7950x3d. Never had an issue with P99 on it or my old 5950x. I don't have to downclock or anything.

I'm boosting to 5.3 while the game is running no problem. It's got to be something else, not just an AMD problem.
So the 7950x3D base clock is 4200. That is why you are able to play P99 out of the box with no issues. Whereas the 7950x base clock is 4500. For some reason the newer AMD chips seem to like the base clock to be divisible by 6 otherwise they will trigger the anti cheat on the server side which will immediately boot you.

[Topgunben]

Just wanting to throw this out here in case no one has tried it. After being at my wits end trying to figure out what was going on with all the crashing and login issues, I decided to connect to the internet via my iPhones hot spot. This immediately fixed the problem and I’ve been crash free and login issue free since making the switch.

The reason I never considered it to be a network issue is that ive had the same internet for quite some time and the game has run just fine. It wasn’t until here recently that I simply could not zone or login without a 95% change of failure.

[Chloroform]

Just wanting to throw this out here in case no one has tried it. After being at my wits end trying to figure out what was going on with all the crashing and login issues, I decided to connect to the internet via my iPhones hot spot. This immediately fixed the problem and I’ve been crash free and login issue free since making the switch.

The reason I never considered it to be a network issue is that ive had the same internet for quite some time and the game has run just fine. It wasn’t until here recently that I simply could not zone or login without a 95% change of failure.

this sounds like a different issue and resolve. this thread is focusing in on the issues that newer CPUs are running into.

it seems that AMD CPUs over 4.2ghz base clock speed cant get into character select. sometimes throwing up the 1017 error.

im at 4.7ghz *amd* and i cannot get passed character select.

solution but super terrible and depressing, unretire my older machine OR run the game in a Virtual Machine limiting that processor to 4.0ghz.

Now running p99 in my VM i have hella issues with frame rate. game is running like garbage. time to spend time figuring out how to make the VM smooth like butter

[Headcase_Fargone]

What are you using to run P99 in a VM that lets you limit the clockspeed? It's my understanding that only level 1 hypervisors allow this, not something like VMWare Workstation or VirtualBox.

[Chloroform]

What are you using to run P99 in a VM that lets you limit the clockspeed? It's my understanding that only level 1 hypervisors allow this, not something like VMWare Workstation or VirtualBox.

I am using VMWare Workstation, in the .vmx config file you can add a line of text to limit clockspeeds.

find that in your User/Documents/Virtual Machines/*machine name* folder. make sure to enable visibility on all files. they hide the .vmx file

Once located you can open in notepad and add a line of code
timetracker.apparentHz = "4000000000"

Edit: getting better framerate after messing with my resolution and going full screen. im at a playable point but still not smooth like butter

[Topgunben]

this sounds like a different issue and resolve. this thread is focusing in on the issues that newer CPUs are running into.

it seems that AMD CPUs over 4.2ghz base clock speed cant get into character select. sometimes throwing up the 1017 error.

im at 4.7ghz *amd* and i cannot get passed character select.

solution but super terrible and depressing, unretire my older machine OR run the game in a Virtual Machine limiting that processor to 4.0ghz.

Now running p99 in my VM i have hella issues with frame rate. game is running like garbage. time to spend time figuring out how to make the VM smooth like butter

I honestly haven’t even tried to run p99 on my desktop. I have Ryzen 5 3600xt over clocked to 4.2 ghz.

The funny part is, we build these great PCs and the run games like bauldurs gate and EverQuest haha. Although Diablo 4 is going to push my desktop to its limits at max settings. I was already topping 16 gigs of ram used on open beta weekend.

[Headcase_Fargone]

The only reason I upgraded is because I could use the cores for VMs/work and MicroCenter made it impossible not with a bundle they were offering. But yeah, pretty bummed my shiny new PC has to be gimped to play this.

[zipxavier]

So the 7950x3D base clock is 4200. That is why you are able to play P99 out of the box with no issues. Whereas the 7950x base clock is 4500.

That makes perfect sense, thanks for the explanation.

[Chloroform]

VMware blows, someone help me get my 4070 to be recognized by it

[atomos]

Copying and pasting my reply from another thread for all of us Ryzen owners suffering from this problem:

There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!


Step 3 is indeed annoying, but this is what I have been doing to get full CPU performance while being able to play P99.

I SUSPECT this works because this tells Windows (and therefore Titanium client) that the default clock speed is whatever BIOS is set to, even though Ryzen Master overrides that once you are booted up and make that change.

[Chloroform]

Copying and pasting my reply from another thread for all of us Ryzen owners suffering from this problem:

There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!


Step 3 is indeed annoying, but this is what I have been doing to get full CPU performance while being able to play P99.

I SUSPECT this works because this tells Windows (and therefore Titanium client) that the default clock speed is whatever BIOS is set to, even though Ryzen Master overrides that once you are booted up and make that change.

it worked for me. running at super speeds 7900x style and i got my p99 toon to log in woot.

set clock speed on bios to 4200. launched windows. launched the Ryzen Master software. Set CPU control Mode to default. hit Apply. double checked cpu speeds (did as expected went from 4200 to a variable 4.7 to 5+) Launched P99 - GOT PASSED SERVER SELECT, LETS FUCKING GOOO

[corymaloy]

Copying and pasting my reply from another thread for all of us Ryzen owners suffering from this problem:

There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!


Step 3 is indeed annoying, but this is what I have been doing to get full CPU performance while being able to play P99.

I SUSPECT this works because this tells Windows (and therefore Titanium client) that the default clock speed is whatever BIOS is set to, even though Ryzen Master overrides that once you are booted up and make that change.

This is the best solution yet. Still unfortunate but nice that I dont have to reboot every time I wanna play p99. Thanks for finding this.

[Chloroform]

This is the best solution yet. Still unfortunate but nice that I dont have to reboot every time I wanna play p99. Thanks for finding this.

agreed! which i could delete all my old VM ware posts.

Thanks so much for posting your knowledge and discovery Atomos you're a legend

[zipxavier]

Copying and pasting my reply from another thread for all of us Ryzen owners suffering from this problem:

There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!


Step 3 is indeed annoying, but this is what I have been doing to get full CPU performance while being able to play P99.

I SUSPECT this works because this tells Windows (and therefore Titanium client) that the default clock speed is whatever BIOS is set to, even though Ryzen Master overrides that once you are booted up and make that change.

Brilliant workaround

[Headcase_Fargone]

This solution does work for me, but it also causes my Windows clock to run fast. After an hour or two I'd be a good 8-10 minutes faster than everything else.

[Innoeus]

If anyone plans to purchase a new computer from this point forward, you won't be able to run Project1999 anymore.

I know this entire project being fan run and not-for-profit has limited resources, but this is going to be a real and growing problem that needs to be addressed if at all possible.

I love the way P99 enshrines the original EQ experience, so really want it to survive this shift in PC hardware that's triggering it now.

I have a 7950x, and I am really hoping that whatever is triggering this is actually addressable by the team working on P99 and not some impossibility, as the population of PC's that can play is and will continue to slowly shrink otherwise.

[corymaloy]

I have a 7950x, and I am really hoping that whatever is triggering this is actually addressable by the team working on P99 and not some impossibility, as the population of PC's that can play is and will continue to slowly shrink otherwise.


I think it IS addressable. I noticed that any other emulated server works fine, its only p1999 that seems to have this issue. I'm guessing its some sort of anti cheap mechanism but who knows.

Additionally after operating with the ryzen master workaround posted previously, I realize that there are some major issues. First of all, while the clocks are correct, I find that my other apps have strange lag and hang ups randomly. This actually makes other competitive games unplayable. Thus I'm back to square one. I also couldn't get p99 to work properly with VMware, so I'm not sure what to do. It's sad because I'm feeling the p99 itch.

Is there some way to formally file a bug or something?

[arc]

I currently have my processor (i9 12900k) working fine with P99 and the EQEmu login server selects.

When I get home I will see what it is currently running at but I have never downclocked it.

Also, are you getting booted back to login when you click on other servers as well (just for testing)?

I've heard that the 1017 errors are alot more common on AMD chips

I also have an intel setup (10900k) and run P99 with no issues.

[corymaloy]

Yeah, that's true. But that doesnt help. Lol

[Innoeus]

Yeah, that's true. But that doesnt help. Lol

Well, it could help the devs, perhaps (if it were newer than a 10900K).

If these 12th and 13th gen Intel chips are running at similar MHZ and are OK, it's not the raw speed alone.

It would be helpful if this were acknowledged enough to have them look at some logs and see why the backend thinks these connections were trickery and denied.

[Proxin]

I had this problem with my 7950X, and was able to workaround it by locking the frequency in bios to 4.2 GHz (thanks to this thread). I figured I'd live with it for a while, and switch back to Intel the next time I refreshed my build.

Fast forward about a year, I noticed the 7800X3D has a base frequency of 4.2GHz. And with a decent deal going on at Amazon for the processor, I decided to give it a try. With bios settings all reset to defaults, the 7800X3D has no problem with P99.

So, this appears to be something related to the base frequency set in bios, whether manual override or hardware default. Unfortunately, for the 7950X (factory base frequency 4.5GHz), the way you have to override that in bios locks you into a lower 4.2GHz frequency, disabling the hardware boost behavior. If you want to boost above that, you have to do a software workaround in Windows using Ryzen Master to re-enable boosting after boot-up. However, with the 7800X3D having a base frequency of 4.2GHz from the factory, the factory boost works without any workarounds, and P99 doesn't have any issues.

Hope this helps someone in the future as they're deciding on components for a new PC build.

[Mordos]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!
Did you ever find a fix? I have the same PROC 7950X and when I tried to lower my clock speed the damn thing wouldn't even post, I ended up having to reset CMOS remove Memory before it would even post (thought I bricked it).

[Mordos]

I also have the Ryzen 7950X and unable to get the game to connect from the server menu. Running Rog Strix B650E-E

- Tried re-installing
- Installed Windows XP on VM
- Attempted to change Clock Speed in Bios to 4ghz (bricked it, had to reset bios) suspect my Memory is not able to lower clock speed.
- In AMD software tried to enable Over Clock (required reboot), again it bricked no post. Another CMOS reset and had to pull 1 stick of memory to get it post again.
- Connected to Hotspot on Phone, no dice
- WinXP VM tried running Win95 compatibility

Long Story short, in my VM Workstation not able to change the clock speed so the WinXP was still running 4.5ghz, and for whatever reason my board will not run at a lower clock speed.

On a bright note my wife PC is Intel I9 and it works fine there,

Mordos

[Knightshine]

looks like this is going to have to manifest into a big enough issue for something to be done about it. Were trying to play a game on computers that can execute at a rate that was never thought imaginable at the time when we were all playing on dial up modems.


Alienware and other gaming computer companies remove clocking options so that people can not ruin their computers unintentionally.

[RicePaddy22]

Had to update my rig in order to handle modern games. Rig has an AMD 7900x @4.7 and am having the same issues as others in this thread. I can handle unzipping files etc but am not comfortable going into BIOS to tinker with settings. I really don't want to buy a separate rig just for EQ.. Anyone able to help a boomer out?? Sucks because I was getting the itch to revisit Norath :(

[Jimjam]

Surely Pcs will be good enough to emulate a decent 2002 box which can run Titanium nicely - self solving problem?

Maybe too technical? I couldn’t tbh.

[RicePaddy22]

[QUOTE=atomos;3600142]There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!


Seems like this would be the best solution with the problem I'm having. Has anyone ran into any problems going this route?

[RicePaddy22]

I've also read that WinEQ/WinEQ2 might solve the issue?

[Knightshine]

[QUOTE=atomos;3600142]There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!


Seems like this would be the best solution with the problem I'm having. Has anyone ran into any problems going this route?

I tried the AMD Ryzen Master Software and if you are on an alienware or another gaming computer company that has clocking options disabled you can cause an internal error that will prevent your computer from booting. speaking from experience - took me about 40 reboots/failed boots to get to the point where I could get the computer back to factory default so that it would start up again.

*edit - also computers are coming out with processor speeds over 4.2ghz without being overclocked and from what I have read is the main culprit.

[Naerron]

have you tried right clicking on the eqgame.exe file in your p99 directory, and setting the compatibility mode to windows SP3 and setting it as run as administrator? Funny how many things this seems to fix. Also, if you're running it from your downloads folder, might think of putting it somewhere else.

[Digitalmocking]

I'm seeing this on a CPU below 4.2GHz.

I've got a Ryzen 7 5800X3D, core ratio is set to 34 and locked, I don't think it's changeable on this CPU or motherboard (Gigabyte B450 Aorus M). I've disabled all the game boost and auto boost properties I could find for my motherboard and 19 times out of 20 that I try to launch P1999 Blue Server I wind up with the error 1017 pop-up.

Any ideas on how to fix it on this CPU? It seems totally random, sometimes it'll work, but 95% of the time I get the error 1017 and it'll never work until I reboot. If p1999 launches on the first shot, it's fine, but I've never gotten it to work once I see that error.

I'll try the Ryzen master software and report back.

[armajiro]

Ping! Is there any fix for this yet? Apparently this issue was fixed for Project Quarm already: https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/19bfeid/amd_cpu/. I'd love to get back into P99 again, but sadly I am in the forbidden CPU club for the time being.

[Joffeyhinton2000]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

where exactly are you changing the speed of processor i have asus primeb550+ i dont see a place to manually change it that looks what you described ive wrestled with this problem for so long months i found some success with a VM but ultimately led to crashes also. any help would be greatly appreciated

[MazeEQ]

AMD R7 5800x @4.1 and I can not play on any P99 Severs. Played fine for months untill 9-31. No changes

[vossiewulf]

To give some hope to prospective AMD owners, I recently bought a new laptop for travel, it's a Ryzen 7 7735HS with a GTX 4070 GPU and of course win11 (gack), but I was able to install and play P99 on Green with no issues- didn't go into the BIOS to fiddle with anything.

[MazeEQ]

Still not able to play

[book-of-loathing]

Just adding my info in case it's helpful.

I have a AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor

I have to download to play.

[book-of-loathing]

Stupid auto-correct. I have to downCLOCK to play.

[Headcase_Fargone]

To give some hope to prospective AMD owners, I recently bought a new laptop for travel, it's a Ryzen 7 7735HS with a GTX 4070 GPU and of course win11 (gack), but I was able to install and play P99 on Green with no issues- didn't go into the BIOS to fiddle with anything.

That's because this is a mobile CPU with a base clock of 3.2GHz, below the threshold that causes problems on P99.

[MazeEQ]

Just adding my info in case it's helpful.

I have a AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor

I have to download to play.

what do you clock down to?

[book-of-loathing]

what do you clock down to?

40 but lower would also work. I haven't played anything but EQ sincei installed, so I don't mind leaving there for now.

[mcoy]

If your CPU has "efficiency cores" or whatever, and you're running Win11 (eco mode in win10 might work too?), try right-clicking eqgame.exe in task manager and enabling efficiency mode on the process while still at server select, or at least before entering world. This seems to stabilize the game on my i9 since those cores are limited in clock speed.

Edit: Yes, I have to do it every time - I've been looking for a way to set it permanently... Suggestions welcome!

-Mcoy

[MazeEQ]

Clocked Down to 3.9 and 3.8 and running in Efficiency mode and still No Change, any P99 server kicks it back to login.

[unixgeek]

There is a workaround such that you don't have to downclock.

1) Set all core CCX manual clock to 4 or 4.2 Ghz in BIOS

2) Install AMD Ryzen Master software

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

3) Every time you boot up PC or wake up from sleep - open Ryzen Master, set ECO or DEFAULT profile. This returns CPU clock/boost to normal out of box behavior and overrides BIOS manual setting.

4) Play EQ, or do whatever!



Thanks, Atmos! This fixed P99 on my new gaming rig!

[Yinaltin]

i too have this bug since my new amd 7600X in April. was not able to play since.

[atomos]

Hey all,

Looks like we finally have a fix for this! Rogean just posted new optional patch files that fix the CPU cutoff.


https://project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436756


I tested this morning after disabling my workaround (fixed frequency in bios) and it is LOOKING GOOD!

[mcoy]

Works for me as well. I no longer have to remember to enable "efficiency mode" on eqgame.exe every time. Thanks Rogean and Secrets!

-Mcoy

[Yinaltin]

works for me aswell. /cheer Secrets and Rog !