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JosiahLightwood
10-26-2022, 04:06 PM
Druid to level 8,
wish I was a Wizard.
Wizard to level 8,
wish I had more solo ability,
Mage to level 10,
just not feeling pet centric gameplay,
Enchanter to level 6,
realise I will be pet centric because of charm,
Rogue to level 8,
I hate being melee, I want to cast.
Wizard again to level 4,
remember how much I hated leveling as Wizard,
Druid again to level 4,
yeah I love the class, but I hate the nature theme,
Wizard again to level 4....

Maybe I should just give up.

I want to do everything (utility, group, buffing, soloability), but the one class that seems to do it all, Druid, just doesn't sit with me. I like the arcane caster theme, not nature.

Ironically, when I played EQ in 2003, I mained a Druid during PoP and Ykesha (granted I played casually). It's so weird that now I'm older I hate the idea of nature casters, yet it used to be amazing. I remember spending most of my time hanging out in low level areas PLing people for free, just chatting.

I wish I could just make alts and flick between them, but I keep rerolling to keep my 'main' name :(

Should I just stick to Wizard and accept it's many limitations? Or force myself to level to the more interesting stuff on Druid -- surely if I managed to main one to 60 back in the day, I can learn to love it again?

Jibartik
10-26-2022, 04:18 PM
Yeah its tough, if you hate pets, but want to be a caster, and mage didnt work i am sure necro wont either, but you might like it, at this point why not give it a go?

magnetaress
10-26-2022, 04:25 PM
Stick with wizard. They get decent at 20

Buy sow pots blood of the wolf. Until u can get jboots and tflux staff.

Realize u can immobilez/ enstill and just camp agro to split 2-3... maybe 4 spawns. (Killl one. Reroot-snsre and camp-gate-succur)

U don't have to use pets as chanter. Or necro either. They r nice tho.

bcbrown
10-26-2022, 08:44 PM
Many classes don't really come into their own until the late teens or 20s, if not later. If you give up at level 4 or 6 you're not gonna get much insight into the real capabilities of a class.

magnetaress
10-26-2022, 09:09 PM
ya some classes need epics /mana robe /rend robe to really shine (wizard) etc too

priest donals bp...

pally dw helm or whateve it is with clicky heal

classes that fair well in garbo gear necro, ench

shm kinda likes having jbb/fungi/epic

drui is kinda epic clicky for being decent

rng is like epics its trash otherwise

warrior needs so many clickies to even not be near as good as a ranger ...

rogue is trash without epic cuz everyone on this server is a bluebie and they already farmed 10 years longer than u

shadowknight is pretty solid even without good gear ironically their epics/clickies make them ubar tho

bcbrown
10-26-2022, 09:22 PM
shadowknight is pretty solid even without good gear ironically their epics/clickies make them ubar tho

I played a troll shadowknight back in '99 and the 40% experience penalty was so painful I can't imagine trying to play it again, even now without the hybrid penalty.

Issar
10-26-2022, 09:41 PM
I want to do everything (utility, group, buffing, soloability), but the one class that seems to do it all, Druid, just doesn't sit with me. I like the arcane caster theme, not nature.


Have you considered a shaman? Not an arcane caster, but not nature either. Fills the utility, group, buffing, solo ability roles well.

magnetaress
10-26-2022, 10:20 PM
I played a troll shadowknight back in '99 and the 40% experience penalty was so painful I can't imagine trying to play it again, even now without the hybrid penalty.

yeabutt once u pay for a powerlvl to 60 (in in game currency like platinum of course) ur done :)

actually it wasn't so bad to get lvl 20 as a SK ... and my troll SK at lvl 20 was a machine :D

higher than that and u defff feel the exp grind and groups will look at u and go no thx

Have you considered a shaman? Not an arcane caster, but not nature either. Fills the utility, group, buffing, solo ability roles well.

this person sounds like they want really low APM (actions per minute)... sham kinda isn't that without macros anyway sorta and canni/sit macros are unreliable and not good in a grp where u may need to interupt it to heal

if OP is willing to group I recommend trudging it out with enchanter or cleric or druid those classes are generally desireable for ppl leveling and u will get 60 in no time and by the time ur 60 u can twink a billion alts with all kinda of fun junk gear and just lvl them into their 30's and u will have enough experience pet classes wont be horrible

in a grp ppl are so desperate for clarity on enchanter they dont care if u are bad and dont pull/charm/mez etc, as long as u haste and clarity once in a blue moon u gud

goblinmob
10-26-2022, 10:50 PM
Everyone gets the blues... you might not get to try everything when you eat at a buffet but as long as you ate the food you like to eat, you haven't really missed out... And remember you can have like 8 characters. If it makes you feel better, EQ gonna be a grind no matter what class or play style. I hope you find something that suits you!

Philistine
10-27-2022, 01:38 AM
I agree with the comments that most classes don't start feeling unique until their 20sish and don't have the majority of their skills/critical spells until their 30s.

I feel like most of them are about identical 1-10.

I'd consider looking at what each does at 60 and deciding which looks most fun to you, then trying to get one into its 20s or so before really deciding.

Honestly I kind of hate most of the classes below 20 - such a slog!

As others have mentioned, sham seems like it may be a good fit.

Toxigen
10-27-2022, 08:37 AM
Sounds like you should roll a necro.

nilzark
10-27-2022, 09:22 AM
You are not enjoying it because this game is designed to be group focused. Everybody supports other classes somehow. But you already knew that. Yearly or bi-yearly server reset could help enforce this concept.

JosiahLightwood
10-27-2022, 09:46 AM
Thanks for all the replies.

I'm just going to accept I need to pick different names for my characters so I can have multiple classes. Does anyone know if you can have the same surname on different classes? Are they unique, or per account unique etc?

I might recreate my druid from old live and role play as a helper again, rather than limit myself to the same arcane caster I've been playing recently in other games.

magnetaress
10-27-2022, 09:52 AM
If u don't delete and just bounce from character to character eventually u will get one to a decent lvl and accrue some pixels too. Doesn't hurt to have 3 wizards if u can't decide what race u want either. Or just enjoy the challenge of a fresh toon.

Yes u can use the same surname across characters.

U can literally play a druid like a wizard spec evoke even and still be good at off healing or animal charming. U have literally like a 2% difference in mana efficiency between druid and wizard nukes. Literally like 15% diff in burst dps at 60. And about the same sustainable dps. Or better with dots-charm. Don't let ppl stop u from playing how u want that is the beauty of eq.

svelto
10-27-2022, 10:33 AM
I main a wizard and my experience has been that most folks want an efficient, fast paced group. Personally, it's difficult to keep up with sustained DPS from rogues, monks, etc, when they can keep outputting damage and I eventually have to med.

I knew this going in however having played one back in the 99 time frame. If you're ok with these expectations going in, you won't set yourself up for disappointment. That's my 2c. I enjoy the concept of an all powerful damage dealing caster.

Lampolo
10-27-2022, 11:45 AM
Sounds like your suffering from ocpd

Nutell_Woodson
10-27-2022, 11:53 AM
I agree with the comments that most classes don't start feeling unique until their 20sish and don't have the majority of their skills/critical spells until their 30s.

I feel like most of them are about identical 1-10.

I'd consider looking at what each does at 60 and deciding which looks most fun to you, then trying to get one into its 20s or so before really deciding.

Honestly I kind of hate most of the classes below 20 - such a slog!

As others have mentioned, sham seems like it may be a good fit.

Very true. The ranger felt so meh until lvl 22 spells where it finally started to feel like a hybrid class. Then came sow with the lvl 30 spells and suddenly felt like a fun and viable class.

l0053g0053
10-27-2022, 12:01 PM
I ended up getting to level 35 in every single class before I found one I wanted to take to 60. When I first played EQ on live, I think I did the same thing from lvl 1-12 over and over again until I had thousands of plat saved up.

I did a DE warrior in full crafted and 2x ykesha and literally could carry like 20 pounds of loot I was so close to encumbered. This was right after kunark so Yaks were 900p.

Definitely do not delete your cha, or strip them of gear. Just take a break, and get back to it later.

Surname can be the same no issues. You could even have the first name be related to the class, then the surname be your "perm name"

I found that if I stripped a char, geared a new char, I would quickly get bored, having nothing to do but level. If you start from scratch and keep your gear separate, its a better experience.

I really enjoyed my ranger self gearing, hunting down lesser known mobs for crappy weapons.

The best part, as others have said, about EQ,

1. playing with other people
2. character upgrades *only with levels*
3. gear upgrades (avoid gearing IMO as it really ruins the fun of upgrades)

magnetaress
10-27-2022, 12:08 PM
I found that if I stripped a char, geared a new char, I would quickly get bored, having nothing to do but level. If you start from scratch and keep your gear separate, its a better experience.

I really enjoyed my ranger self gearing, hunting down lesser known mobs for crappy weapons.


Seconded

Brad bless!

Tunabros
10-27-2022, 01:05 PM
bro hasnt even got to the part of the classes where leveling is fun

he has just been auto attacking and casting burst of flame then switches to the next

class

you can't make this shit up lol

Spithridates
10-27-2022, 04:52 PM
Congrats you're a Barbarian Shaman!

JosiahLightwood
10-27-2022, 05:42 PM
bro hasnt even got to the part of the classes where leveling is fun

he has just been auto attacking and casting burst of flame then switches to the next

class

you can't make this shit up lol

You're wrong, but it doesn't matter.

Videri
10-27-2022, 06:07 PM
Druid to level 8,
wish I was a Wizard.
Wizard to level 8,
wish I had more solo ability,
Mage to level 10,
just not feeling pet centric gameplay,
Enchanter to level 6,
realise I will be pet centric because of charm,
Rogue to level 8,
I hate being melee, I want to cast.
Wizard again to level 4,
remember how much I hated leveling as Wizard,
Druid again to level 4,
yeah I love the class, but I hate the nature theme,
Wizard again to level 4....

Maybe I should just give up.

I want to do everything (utility, group, buffing, soloability), but the one class that seems to do it all, Druid, just doesn't sit with me. I like the arcane caster theme, not nature.

Ironically, when I played EQ in 2003, I mained a Druid during PoP and Ykesha (granted I played casually). It's so weird that now I'm older I hate the idea of nature casters, yet it used to be amazing. I remember spending most of my time hanging out in low level areas PLing people for free, just chatting.

I wish I could just make alts and flick between them, but I keep rerolling to keep my 'main' name :(

Should I just stick to Wizard and accept it's many limitations? Or force myself to level to the more interesting stuff on Druid -- surely if I managed to main one to 60 back in the day, I can learn to love it again?

Yeah, I'm surprised it took until Page 2 for someone to recommend a necromancer. In Chortles's words, the necromancer is the class that actually feels like a powerful wizard.

But I bet if you get that wizard to level 29 and get Bonds of Force and your Staff of Temperate Flux, you could have a blast with the famous wizard strategy of "alternate between quadding and AFK medding chores/workout/YouTube."

As for me, when I was just getting started, I bounced around between a bunch of classes before reading someone's opinion that enchanters were the hardest class to play. When I read that, I said to myself "Oh yeah? We'll see about that!" and I was hooked.

Anyway, I humbly suggest you try a necro and/or stick out the wizard. You could also use the necro to twink out the wizard.

Videri
10-27-2022, 06:12 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

I'm just going to accept I need to pick different names for my characters so I can have multiple classes.

Oh no! You've been deleting them?? Like poor Cen? Yes, you should definitely come up with more names and use them. I used to write a backstory for each, but these days I just spend a week deciding on a name. You can also do the old "Bobby, Bobbyy, and Bobbyyy" thing some players do. I have a character named Aeleus and made some mules on the same account named Beleus, Celeus, Deleus, Eeleus, and so on to store extra items for later.

Secondly - make a new loginserver account for each character. Tons of reasons to do so. Preserve corpse rez timer, play together with friends/family, have your friend log onto your druid to port/buff you, etc.

Does anyone know if you can have the same surname on different classes? Are they unique, or per account unique etc?
Any number of characters can have the same surname. The entire server could pick the same surname. Only first names are unique.

I might recreate my druid from old live and role play as a helper again, rather than limit myself to the same arcane caster I've been playing recently in other games.

A smart long-term strategy. Necro is also a good "help my other characters" class because they can solo and earn platinum rapidly and consistently.

Tunabros
10-31-2022, 04:02 PM
sounds like OP should quit p99 and play final fantasy 14

eqravenprince
10-31-2022, 05:17 PM
Step 1 Find good series on Netflix, preferably with a ton of seasons. Example Supernatural 15 seasons.

Step 2 Create Dark Elf Wizard... think mega evil, you will kill anything and everything, the world will burn.

Step 3 find place you can sit/med in peace but also get up every 5 minutes to go kill something. Watch netflix in downtime. You'll be level 60 in no time!

magnetaress
10-31-2022, 06:27 PM
sounds like OP should quit p99 and play final fantasy 14

https://i.imgur.com/XlTJmPB.jpeg
:cool::eek::o
Step 1 Find good series on Netflix, preferably with a ton of seasons. Example Supernatural 15 seasons.

Step 2 Create Dark Elf Wizard... think mega evil, you will kill anything and everything, the world will burn.

Step 3 find place you can sit/med in peace but also get up every 5 minutes to go kill something. Watch netflix in downtime. You'll be level 60 in no time!

^^^ very much agreed plus eq dark elfs are real elfs at least. :cool:

Gustoo
10-31-2022, 09:13 PM
All solo eq is hella fun with movies. Even the necro.

Snaggles
11-06-2022, 08:18 AM
Every class kind of sucks until like level 25-30. Maybe the only ones that have it easy at level 1 are monks who are given Wu’s trance sticks.

It’s a slog of a game but the classes mature and make sense. Think about what you will want in the end and keep trying. Every class is fun and good at something; If you love it and know how to play it that’s all that matters.

Gustoo
11-10-2022, 02:11 PM
Level 1-25 or so is by far the hardest part of the game. You've got no power and the game world just massacres you. Thats why a lot of people just power through those levels because they're the hardest to do when you're alone and the easiest to do with help.

MaddiusTheMad
11-16-2022, 05:26 AM
Have you considered a shaman? Not an arcane caster, but not nature either. Fills the utility, group, buffing, solo ability roles well.

I second a try at SHM, versatile and necessary utility among the masses. Capable of holding your own, not a pet's pet class, a lot of great casts, nowhere near a typical melee class in my mind..

Otherwise I suggest other Hybrids. I think Hybrids are your answer without you yet realizing why or how. :cool:

Try out Shamans, or Clerics, or Pal/SK, feeling you will not regret it!

svelto
11-16-2022, 09:21 AM
I second a try at SHM, versatile and necessary utility among the masses. Capable of holding your own, not a pet's pet class, a lot of great casts, nowhere near a typical melee class in my mind..

Otherwise I suggest other Hybrids. I think Hybrids are your answer without you yet realizing why or how. :cool:

Try out Shamans, or Clerics, or Pal/SK, feeling you will not regret it!

Re-read OP's post and I think Maddius is right with the Shaman suggestion. Not a nature caster which was a stipulation, and fits the bill for the other criteria:

"I want to do everything (utility, group, buffing, soloability"

Chortles Snortles
11-16-2022, 04:57 PM
don't feel bad OP
it took me 5 sks and 3 necros to decide on necro
i too, never went back to my main live class either not even an alt (Wiz)

Cen
11-19-2022, 08:58 PM
I used to do chronic rerolling so I could keep the same name, but it was a habit that took me like 20 years to break.