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Elfminster
10-17-2022, 10:20 AM
Scientist: i landed on the moon
Moon:

Scientist: i landed on mars
Mars:

Scientist: penguins are queer
Penguins:

Scientist: dinosaurs did this
Dinosaurs:

Scientist: you are evolved from apes
Apes:

Scientist: wearing this face diaper protects you from covid
Covid:

Scientist: the climate is changing for the worse due to greenhouse gasses
Climate:

Scientist: the big bang created everything
Big Bang:

https://i.ibb.co/pnRWcq0/d4l34l-44828b70-152c-4e9b-a56e-a27e11e28b24.jpg

Scientist: you have less value than shit. evolve!
Christian: you have less value than shit. repent!
Democrat: you have less value than shit. vote!

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 10:22 AM
https://c.tenor.com/utefMcQHgBUAAAAC/go-on-popcorn.gif

MrSparkle001
10-17-2022, 10:47 AM
https://i.imgur.com/37Spb.gif

https://rebeccalweber.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/sciencegiphy.gif

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 10:49 AM
https://c.tenor.com/Kj-FmtfmRSwAAAAC/bill-nye-science.gif

Elfminster
10-17-2022, 10:52 AM
IfHJgZptH-w

Jibartik
10-17-2022, 11:35 AM
Smoking helps relax you and is healthy.

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 11:39 AM
Smoking helps relax you and is healthy.

Keeps the weight off as well

Reiwa
10-17-2022, 11:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Q7HkqfI.png

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 11:50 AM
https://y.yarn.co/bab593e2-d651-4d64-a92e-f9dd2e87c03f_text.gif

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 11:51 AM
When the blue-haired girl sees me walking down the street without a mask on:

https://i.imgur.com/hTrvICC.gif

Homesteaded
10-17-2022, 11:54 AM
There is a website out there that lays out why smoking is good for you. It's hilarious but I can't find it right now. My story is over and it was a good story.

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 11:55 AM
There is a website out there that lays out why smoking is good for you. It's hilarious but I can't find it right now. My story is over and it was a good story.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8746297/

Reiwa
10-17-2022, 11:58 AM
3UbDMtDSH84

Jibartik
10-17-2022, 12:15 PM
Religion was science, once.

unsunghero
10-17-2022, 12:18 PM
Due to how easy it has become to manipulate data, samples, etc, and the fact funding is often provided by an entity with a particular interest in the outcome of a “study”, I immediately discredit and completely ignore any study I see

If it’s a peer-reviewed meta analysis, this means it’s a collection of many, many studies that has been reviewed…these I’ll still give about 20% credibility towards

Science is easy to manipulate for one’s own interests

Jibartik
10-17-2022, 12:19 PM
Religion causes wars!!

Kills 300k people for NATO

Elfminster
10-17-2022, 12:51 PM
Scientific Survival Kit


Face mask
Crucifix
Prayer beads
Bible
Quran
Torah
Garlic
Revolver with silver bullets
Wooden stake
Rainbow flag
Voting form
Life insurance
Health insurance
Travel insurance
Pet insurance
Health and safety manual
Smoke alarm
CO2 detector
Fire extinguiisher
Billions of vaccines
Skimmed Soy milk
Spiderman DVD
Thor DVD
Game of Thrones DVD
Moon landings DVD
Minecraft
Uniform
Megaphone
Siren
High vis vest
Hard hat
Spare tire
Roadside kit
Electric car
Warning labels
Wikipedia
Dictionary
"Smart" phone
Walking stick
Zimmer frame
Wheelchair
Coffin

unsunghero
10-17-2022, 01:02 PM
,,,

Reiwa
10-17-2022, 01:12 PM
Scientific Survival Kit


Face mask
Crucifix
Prayer beads
Bible
Quran
Torah
Garlic
Revolver with silver bullets
Wooden stake
Rainbow flag
Voting form
Life insurance
Health insurance
Travel insurance
Pet insurance
Health and safety manual
Smoke alarm
CO2 detector
Fire extinguiisher
Billions of vaccines
Skimmed Soy milk
Spiderman DVD
Thor DVD
Game of Thrones DVD
Moon landings DVD
Minecraft
Uniform
Megaphone
Siren
High vis vest
Hard hat
Spare tire
Roadside kit
Electric car
Warning labels
Wikipedia
Dictionary
"Smart" phone
Walking stick
Zimmer frame
Wheelchair
Coffin


All I see is a Ben Garrison cartoon.

Encroaching Death
10-17-2022, 01:27 PM
Scientific Survival Kit


Face mask


That's all you need. Protects from everything. Nothing gets by 1-ply cotton.

Jibartik
10-17-2022, 01:28 PM
That + an AR-15 and you have nothing to worry about for the rest of your life except the IRS.

Elfminster
10-17-2022, 01:50 PM
That + an AR-15 and you have nothing to worry about for the rest of your life except the IRS.

Only soy boys use AR-15's. Real men use M60 or flame thrower.

Elfminster
10-17-2022, 02:03 PM
That's all you need. Protects from everything. Nothing gets by 1-ply cotton.

Not just any 1-ply cotton face mask but one made in china the same place covid comes from (allegedly).

Elfminster
10-17-2022, 02:13 PM
All I see is a Ben Garrison cartoon.

https://jrmora.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/trump-vaccine.jpg

https://media.tenor.com/Te4htNcAmmQAAAAM/morgan-freeman-pointing.gif

unsunghero
10-17-2022, 10:26 PM

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 11:09 AM


Thankfully they won't hit anything with all those cup and saucer grips :p

https://outdoorhub-res.cloudinary.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:low,w_auto,dpr_auto/https://www.outdoorhub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/06/Cup-and-saucer-handgun-grip-800x531.jpg

loramin
10-18-2022, 11:12 AM
Due to how easy it has become to manipulate data, samples, etc, and the fact funding is often provided by an entity with a particular interest in the outcome of a “study”, I immediately discredit and completely ignore any study I see

If it’s a peer-reviewed meta analysis, this means it’s a collection of many, many studies that has been reviewed…these I’ll still give about 20% credibility towards

Science is easy to manipulate for one’s own interests

Spoken by someone who clearly has no understanding of how science works.

unsunghero
10-18-2022, 11:32 AM
Spoken by someone who clearly has no understanding of how science works.

Lol ok mr scientist explain to me how many studies you believe were funded by entities interested in a particular outcome. None?

Remember when cigarette companies funded studies showing how smoking wasn’t that bad?

Remember when the ridiculously unhealthy food pyramid studies were funded by grain companies?

How about testing drug safety funded by the companies that sell the drugs, that oh golly gee look the drug is proven as safe by studies then goes on to harm people?

You can manipulate the sample, you can manipulate the data parameters, you can manipulate the control group, you can manipulate the test executed


Anyone who thinks studies aren’t easy to manipulate is a combination of stupid and naive

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 11:34 AM
Science can't be manipulated to fit a narrative.

That's impossible.

unsunghero
10-18-2022, 11:36 AM
Spoken by someone who clearly has no understanding of how science works.

Science can't be manipulated to fit a narrative.

That's impossible.

No of course not

Someone who writes wikki’s about an elf sim trusts all studies, and we should too

Jibartik
10-18-2022, 11:41 AM
When crew get together to peer review.

https://i.imgur.com/uv9igF3.png

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 11:48 AM
Religion can't be manipulated to fit a narrative.

That's impossible.

unsunghero
10-18-2022, 11:48 AM
I recently saw a “study” proving a particular form of exercise produced better results than conventional lifting

Turns out that the sample size was like 9 people, and the participants had a study conductor yelling at them the entire time “come on! You can do it! One more rep!” like a personal trainer. So turns out since these were casual lifters who never used personal trainers, it wasn’t the exercise that produced the results but the verbal encouragement

That’s just one example, and I don’t even think that was INTENTIONAL manipulation. That was just accidental. There’s still a shitload of sketchy intentional manipulation of studies

You have to really study any study you hear and when you do, you will probably find it’s bullshit

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 11:50 AM
"Do you think we should defend ourselves if Russia nukes the US?"

"Uh yeah..."

STUDY: 100% of Americans think we should nuke Russia

Jibartik
10-18-2022, 12:32 PM
"these guys have access to the book, I cant read, they can, so it's best to trust the vatican"

That's literally life before the printing press.

Sound familiar??

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 12:42 PM
"these guys have access to the book, I cant read, they can, so it's best to trust the vatican"

That's literally life before the printing press.

Sound familiar??

Science is the new religion. We are the new heretics.

loramin
10-18-2022, 01:35 PM
Lol ok mr scientist explain to me how many studies you believe were funded by entities interested in a particular outcome. None?

Remember when cigarette companies funded studies showing how smoking wasn’t that bad?

Remember when the ridiculously unhealthy food pyramid studies were funded by grain companies?

How about testing drug safety funded by the companies that sell the drugs, that oh golly gee look the drug is proven as safe by studies then goes on to harm people?

You can manipulate the sample, you can manipulate the data parameters, you can manipulate the control group, you can manipulate the test executed


Anyone who thinks studies aren’t easy to manipulate is a combination of stupid and naive

Again, you're speaking from a place of massive ignorance, as the examples you list aren't examples of science failings.

Can humans (eg. cigarette-selling humans) mislead other humans ... in science or anywhere else, to some extent? Sure. But scientists weren't convinced of anything by misleading, un-peer-reviewed, or unreproducible tobacco studies. Politicians were.

Same deal with the food pyramid: there was never a "food pyramid study"! What there was a bunch of legitimate dietary studies ... and then (again) a bunch of politicians, influenced by farm lobbies and such, who ignored many of those studies, so they could give us the food pyramid.

Drug safety? Obviously, there's a tension between wanting to make drugs safe, and wanting to get new drugs to sick people as quickly as possible. But (again), scientists don't make those decisions: government regulators (whose bosses are politicians) do.

Ultimately you're misunderstanding science, and blaming it for stuff that has nothing to do with it ... and everything to do with politics and politicians deliberately ignoring scientists to push their own special interests.

Jibartik
10-18-2022, 01:38 PM
All of this could and has been said about the clergy. :o

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 02:08 PM
Scientists cannot be interested in politics or bought off.

Not possible.

Reiwa
10-18-2022, 02:12 PM
"these guys have access to the book, I cant read, they can, so it's best to trust the vatican"

That's literally life before the printing press.

Sound familiar??

I think they use the Septuagint but I know they don't use the Latin Vulgate.

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 02:18 PM
Septuagint

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AggravatingOptimisticGermanspitz-size_restricted.gif

Reiwa
10-18-2022, 02:20 PM
Science is a liar sometimes (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31283950/)

Jibartik
10-18-2022, 02:24 PM
This new spray makes food slide right off the pan!
*leukemia

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 02:25 PM
Science is a liar sometimes (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31283950/)

Man, someone was a FREAK in the sheets back then...

unsunghero
10-18-2022, 05:00 PM
Again, you're speaking from a place of massive ignorance, as the examples you list aren't examples of science failings.

Can humans (eg. cigarette-selling humans) mislead other humans ... in science or anywhere else, to some extent? Sure. But scientists weren't convinced of anything by misleading, un-peer-reviewed, or unreproducible tobacco studies. Politicians were.

Same deal with the food pyramid: there was never a "food pyramid study"! What there was a bunch of legitimate dietary studies ... and then (again) a bunch of politicians, influenced by farm lobbies and such, who ignored many of those studies, so they could give us the food pyramid.

Drug safety? Obviously, there's a tension between wanting to make drugs safe, and wanting to get new drugs to sick people as quickly as possible. But (again), scientists don't make those decisions: government regulators (whose bosses are politicians) do.

Ultimately you're misunderstanding science, and blaming it for stuff that has nothing to do with it ... and everything to do with politics and politicians deliberately ignoring scientists to push their own special interests.

Did I attack science in my original post you quoted?

Let’s take a looksee:

“Due to how easy it has become to manipulate data, samples, etc, and the fact funding is often provided by an entity with a particular interest in the outcome of a “study”, I immediately discredit and completely ignore any study I see”

Seems like I mentioned how easy it is to put forth a bogus study due to some ulterior motive

Where did I attack your atheist God, Science, again?

Oh that’s right, you threw out a red herring and then claimed I attacked science so you could have something to argue about

Find better excuses to argue with people online next time. I never attacked the concept of science. I said a shitload of studies are complete bullshit, to the point where ONLY peer reviewed meta analysis I pay attention to, and even THOSE can be manipulated to present a narrative

Reiwa
10-18-2022, 05:05 PM
Man, someone was a FREAK in the sheets back then...

I decided I like it better as a metaphor, so now it's a metaphor.

Blow smoke up the ass of someone who is drowned (in information)

Encroaching Death
10-18-2022, 05:08 PM
I decided I like it better as a metaphor, so now it's a metaphor.

Blow smoke up the ass of someone who is drowning(in information)

Some rivers even had handy bellows nearby incase someone was drowning. Like little butthole fire extinguishers.