Pained Soul

[Samven]

does this mob actually exist? camped it 73+ hour so far. just finished a 15 hour stint. 56 spectral champions and 460 keepers so far X.X

[Infectious]

Your just getting started. Get yourself a sock and some of your favorite mountain dew beverage.

[Encroaching Death]

does this mob actually exist?

I know that feeling...You're in "Mob Camping Hell".

When the mob finally pops, you'll think you're hallucinating.

[zelld52]

does this mob actually exist? camped it 73+ hour so far. just finished a 15 hour stint. 56 spectral champions and 460 keepers so far X.X

just buy the MQ bro i care about you lol

[cd288]

just buy the MQ bro i care about you lol

This is one of the biggest flaws in classic EQ's game design. When it's statistically faster and easier to farm the platinum and buy an MQ than it is to do the actual content for a quest/item/etc. it's bad design.

When were MQs disabled in the EQ timeline? Anyone know?

[Encroaching Death]

This is one of the biggest flaws in classic EQ's game design. When it's statistically faster and easier to farm the platinum and buy an MQ than it is to do the actual content for a quest/item/etc. it's bad design.

When were MQs disabled in the EQ timeline? Anyone know?

It sounds like the MQ price should be higher.

What does it go for? 10k? For a mob that takes 78+ hours to camp?

[Tunabros]

its 10k average

and you are lying if it takes you 80 hours for this camp lol

[Ooloo]

This is one of the biggest flaws in classic EQ's game design. When it's statistically faster and easier to farm the platinum and buy an MQ than it is to do the actual content for a quest/item/etc. it's bad design.

When were MQs disabled in the EQ timeline? Anyone know?

Not necessarily. Whether it's easier to farm the plat depends on what class you are. Some people might prefer to camp it rather than MQ it, for a myriad of reasons; MQ prices aren't set in stone, you have to depend\wait on somebody offering one, you have to hope that if you pay for the MQ you couldn't have just camped it yourself instead and gotten him in 2 pops, which happens all the time. Some people actually like doing the harder thing instead of the easier thing in everquest, and that's their prerogative. If they designed the game to just beep-boop minmax every conceivable scenario, none of us would likely be playing here. I think that's actually pretty good game design, albeit by accident possibly. But so many things in eq are like that.

[zelld52]

Not necessarily. Whether it's easier to farm the plat depends on what class you are. Some people might prefer to camp it rather than MQ it, for a myriad of reasons; MQ prices aren't set in stone, you have to depend\wait on somebody offering one, you have to hope that if you pay for the MQ you couldn't have just camped it yourself instead and gotten him in 2 pops, which happens all the time. Some people actually like doing the harder thing instead of the easier thing in everquest, and that's their prerogative. If they designed the game to just beep-boop minmax every conceivable scenario, none of us would likely be playing here. I think that's actually pretty good game design, albeit by accident possibly. But so many things in eq are like that.


I did PS twice. First time, got it in 2 pops. Second one took 6-7 spawns.

I've camped PS a few times, but never sit there for more than 40mins - 1 hour. Def wouldnt pay 10k for it either. Esp if my guild wasnt really pushing to raid VP

[Zuranthium]

Camps like this are so dumb. All of the NPC's outside Sebilis should have a chance to spawn pained soul. I've always thought would be a cool area for groups to hunt in, running around the haunted buildings within a jungle setting and getting the chance at a very valuable drop, plus being right next to Seb if you want to go there. Missed opportunity.

I did PS twice. First time, got it in 2 pops. Second one took 6-7 spawns.

This is incredibly lucky.

[Jimjam]

After spending over 90 hours on rotting skeleton I decided it would be better not to time keep Pained Soul. Got it after a few days, it felt faster but it may well not have been.

I suggest stopping the clock watching and just enjoy the ghost busting. <3

[Zuranthium]

"enjoy", yeah, about that...

[Tunabros]

After spending over 90 hours on rotting skeleton I decided it would be better not to time keep Pained Soul. Got it after a few days, it felt faster but it may well not have been.

I suggest stopping the clock watching and just enjoy the ghost busting. <3

do u even raid lol

[Chortles Snortles]

do u even buff and port
(lol)

[Encroaching Death]

do u even raid lol

Yes, I occasionally twitch a Cleric once an hour.

[Jimjam]

do u even raid lol

Of course! My iksar killed Trakanon, handed in my medals and toof, then did a run through of VP. I basically retired my toon as I had liberated Old Sebilis from the lichewyrm and then saved New Sebilis from the Ring of Scale. Why would I visit a vp a second time when Phara Dar is already killed and Kunark is free?

[Pootle]

On Blue after camping it for a long time, I got 2 PS in a row... nearly fell outa my chair. Called a guildie over to loot the second one.

(Nobody was waiting to take the camp over after i looted the first one)

[sajbert]

Like someone else said, just stop counting.

Sit and relax. Embrace the zen.

[matticas]

Super rough RNG, and you always get the lucky shmucks who landed PS in under an hour. I used to farm PS medallions and found it best to just do a few hours here and there rather than long stretches.

Delayed gratification is the best thing about classic EQ, and there isn't a much better test than PS. GL :)

[Lord Casey]

Had the best times on red camping seven pained souls for my alts with a level 40 super twink mage.

People would spaz out either being killed by me or not being able to attack me and I'd just record them kill stealing the PH and get them suspended.

The rage was so delicious

and yeah it was all worth it because I got the cleric superior heal staff RIGHT before it was taken out of the game. Gad dayum

[PabloEdvardo]

pained soul is one of those camps that is better done in small stints to get lucky than to just brute force it

for every person that takes like 80 hours there's a bunch of people that take like 3-6 hours or less... if you're pushing the high end of the RNG just cut your losses and come back later

[Gustoo]

Camps like this are so dumb. All of the NPC's outside Sebilis should have a chance to spawn pained soul. I've always thought would be a cool area for groups to hunt in, running around the haunted buildings within a jungle setting and getting the chance at a very valuable drop, plus being right next to Seb if you want to go there. Missed opportunity.



This is incredibly lucky.

Static spawns like this seem to be sort of a mistake. Like the spawn point is too easy to ID and it was meant to be all over the place like getting a braver of hidden or other similar kill the whole area type drops.

[Ravager]

It's certainly not worth it for 6 dragons and a thousand mouthbreathers.

[Toxigen]

It's certainly not worth it for 6 dragons and a thousand mouthbreathers.

but muh robe of the azure sky

[Kich867]

Anyone who played on live know, did anyone even do VP in kunark era with the quest this difficult? Looking at the timeline, people had 7-8 months to hit 60, figure out this quest even exists, how to do it, and key enough people to even attempt it. Or was it mostly done in Velious?

I see a lot of people camping this for 40-80 hours, a lot of the ground spawns are 8 hour timers, a lot of the other mobs are 8 hour timers or equally as rare (according to the wiki) as pained soul, Trak only spawned once a week-ish and only drops so many teeth and the same guild isn't guaranteed to get it each time. On average, you should see each of these mobs within about 11 hours, maybe longer for VKR. So assuming everything goes average, it might take one person like 50-60ish hours to get keyed?

How did anyone actually get a raid force keyed before velious came out? Even if every single person was playing 24/7 that's only enough time to key like 70 people and odds are not all those keys are ending up in the same guild.

Was this quest easier on live than it is here?

[Jimjam]

Plankton cheated.

[Toxigen]

bC0hptmCPXo

[Jibartik]

legendary

https://i.imgur.com/Wj4soNK.png

[Ooloo]

See? The /list system works. Can't pull shit like that at pained soul on green!

[Chortles Snortles]

SEE I TOLD YOU THE GMS CONTROL MOBS FOR FUN SOMETIMES!!!! :eek:
he deserved it tho
(lol)

[Ooloo]

Anyone who played on live know, did anyone even do VP in kunark era with the quest this difficult? Looking at the timeline, people had 7-8 months to hit 60, figure out this quest even exists, how to do it, and key enough people to even attempt it. Or was it mostly done in Velious?

I see a lot of people camping this for 40-80 hours, a lot of the ground spawns are 8 hour timers, a lot of the other mobs are 8 hour timers or equally as rare (according to the wiki) as pained soul, Trak only spawned once a week-ish and only drops so many teeth and the same guild isn't guaranteed to get it each time. On average, you should see each of these mobs within about 11 hours, maybe longer for VKR. So assuming everything goes average, it might take one person like 50-60ish hours to get keyed?

How did anyone actually get a raid force keyed before velious came out? Even if every single person was playing 24/7 that's only enough time to key like 70 people and odds are not all those keys are ending up in the same guild.

Was this quest easier on live than it is here?

I've often wondered the same thing. From what I remember of pre-velious kunark, most people were still figuring the quest out. People knew VP existed but I don't remember dragons actually being killed there prior to velious, at least not on my server (Povar). Epics also came out during kunark, so between all the epic quests and the VP key quest I just don't see how any single guild could get enough people keyed for it.

It always drives me nuts how short of a timeline kunark got considering how much content there is. I remember it being advertised as "You can level 1-60 without ever leaving kunark!", which is true, and then like... 8 months after kunark launch velious comes out.

From a business perspective I can see why the devs wanted to keep cranking out new content, but I really wish kunark got a full year. If they ever launch another green it would be really cool if they just made it a nice simple one year for vanilla, then one year for kunark, then velious can go however long.

Or if not that, it would be cool if a new green followed the original launch schedule (vanilla coming out in march), cause then velious comes out during the actual winter like it did originally, for maximum nerd immersion factor.

[Toxigen]

the big brain play is leveling a character at pained soul camp

plenty of other mobs around between spawn timers, too

[Jimjam]

the big brain play is leveling a character at pained soul camp

plenty of other mobs around between spawn timers, too

Did a huge chunk of xp 55-59 on RS/PS PHers et environs for my green war. Got a VP key out of it too (eventually). Very glad I didn’t wait till 60!

[Toxigen]

Did a huge chunk of xp 55-59 on RS/PS PHers et environs for my green war. Got a VP key out of it too (eventually). Very glad I didn’t wait till 60!

Aye I did big chunks at both on my necro too. Veddi gucci.

[Zuranthium]

Anyone who played on live know, did anyone even do VP in kunark era with the quest this difficult? Looking at the timeline, people had 7-8 months to hit 60, figure out this quest even exists, how to do it, and key enough people to even attempt it. Or was it mostly done in Velious?

Only 1 guild per server max was doing Veeshan's Peak before Velious. Some people in the top raiding guilds weren't even Level 60 before Velious.

If they ever launch another green it would be really cool if they just made it a nice simple one year for vanilla, then one year for kunark, then velious can go however long for 1 year before recycling

Yes that would be nice. If they actually fix the game to make it worth playing in the first place.

[Ooloo]

Yes that would be nice. If they actually fix the game to make it worth playing in the first place.

Hmm well, I and the other people currently playing do seem to feel it's worth playing, flaws notwithstanding!

[Samven]

still camping this dang mob. at 91.5 hours sitting at #1. they Definitely misplaced the decimal on the spawn chance of this mob. no reason for 1 mob to take 2+ work weeks to spawn. even 1 per day would be a drastic increase in spawn rate on this mob (which is 0.5% spawn chance)

[Toxigen]

still camping this dang mob. at 91.5 hours sitting at #1. they Definitely misplaced the decimal on the spawn chance of this mob. no reason for 1 mob to take 2+ work weeks to spawn. even 1 per day would be a drastic increase in spawn rate on this mob (which is 0.5% spawn chance)

I've seen 2 Pained Souls in less than 1 hour.

Hope this helps.

[Samven]

what sorcery is this!

[Ooloo]

I've camped many pained souls between blue and green, I think the shortest one was about 45 min, and that was after somebody else got him and I was next in line. I think the longest one was about 45 hours total over several sessions.

Yeah he's just rare and rng is rng. On green I've seen two pop back to back before, but I wasn't #1 or 2 on list so wompwomp.

[zelld52]

I've camped many pained souls between blue and green, I think the shortest one was about 45 min, and that was after somebody else got him and I was next in line. I think the longest one was about 45 hours total over several sessions.

Yeah he's just rare and rng is rng. On green I've seen two pop back to back before, but I wasn't #1 or 2 on list so wompwomp.

You guys raiding VP yet?

[Samven]

at the 100 hour mark. Finally spawned

[Jimjam]

Grats!!!!

Are you close to closing the quest?

[Ooloo]

Pained soul currently dropping 2x medallion pieces, but since it's still a /list camp the other one is forced to rot :(

Even though #2 moves up to #1 when he dies, the corpse is still locked to only the person who was #1 when they killed him.

[loramin]

Person #1 can corpse the duplicate and use it later for an MQ (for person #2 or anyone else) if they want.

[Ooloo]

True, if the person camping it can bind nearby. If not good luck getting back there before corpse rots.

[Jimjam]

Could die and rez to corpse too if the option is present?

[Ooloo]

For sure, could definitely coordinate with somebody else to rez you, but then *they'd* have to be bound there in order to quickly arrive right after PS is killed. Or just sit there and camp it with you. Or camp out a cleric bot that people account share... but I still think account sharing should be illegal!

[Xiderpunk2]

I am at the end of a 12 hour stint at this camp, with 26 hours total now. That is as much personally that I am prepared to commit to this silly objective. The rarity of this spawn is totally self-defeating from a game play standpoint. There is a point for everyone where better judgment has to kick in and decide that these hours of my life I will never get back and is the entertainment value of P99 worth it.

Back in the day I quit EQ around Luclin over stuff like this, decided that the enjoyment factor just wasn't enough to justify continuing. Verant and Sony never saw a penny from me again.

Hopefully devs will listen to feedback on this thread and take it for its worth.

[Ooloo]

I am at the end of a 12 hour stint at this camp, with 26 hours total now. That is as much personally that I am prepared to commit to this silly objective. The rarity of this spawn is totally self-defeating from a game play standpoint. There is a point for everyone where better judgment has to kick in and decide that these hours of my life I will never get back and is the entertainment value of P99 worth it.

Back in the day I quit EQ around Luclin over stuff like this, decided that the enjoyment factor just wasn't enough to justify continuing. Verant and Sony never saw a penny from me again.

Hopefully devs will listen to feedback on this thread and take it for its worth.

My friend, this is the trade off you make when you consume literally any form of entertainment. I've watched multiple days worth of bad movies.

That being said, just do it in chunks. The chance of him spawning is exactly the same every 6 minutes. There's no rule that says you have to camp him for 12 hours at a time. VP will be farmed forever by any guild capable of farming it until the server ends, there is no rush. Multiple guilds worth of players have gotten this spawn, you can too!

[fortior]

just don't do VP if you don't want to grind the key, you dont lose out on that much

[sajbert]

just don't do VP if you don't want to grind the key, you dont lose out on that much

Depends on the class really. Some classes get practically nothing out of VP, some may have a fashion or optional item or perhaps even a useful item but that they can't be arsed to pay DKP for anyway (e.g. SOW-sword). There are a few classes however that really do want that VP-gear, off the top of my head I can think of necromancer and wizard but there are many others.

[fortior]

Depends on the class really. Some classes get practically nothing out of VP, some may have a fashion or optional item or perhaps even a useful item but that they can't be arsed to pay DKP for anyway (e.g. SOW-sword). There are a few classes however that really do want that VP-gear, off the top of my head I can think of necromancer and wizard but there are many others.

no doubt there's good stuff, but it's a long ass camp for 1 or 2 good items. otherwise, you can always buy a MQ (theyre like 40k for all 3 medallions on green, I just asked a guy who's selling them).

40k if you've already got a tooth sounds like an absolute no brainer for a camp this bad if you're looking for a good item. if it's not worth 40k to you just quit complaining and don't do the camp.

[sajbert]

no doubt there's good stuff, but it's a long ass camp for 1 or 2 good items. otherwise, you can always buy a MQ (theyre like 40k for all 3 medallions on green, I just asked a guy who's selling them).

40k if you've already got a tooth sounds like an absolute no brainer for a camp this bad if you're looking for a good item. if it's not worth 40k to you just quit complaining and don't do the camp.

The PS is just part of it too. So many other camps where you gotta park your character or go through all sorts of tedium instead of playing and having fun.

I doubt I'll ever pick a class on a fresh server that has get VP keyed. MQ-ing is barely an option early on and takes a long time before that kind of plat is something, I at least, can just dish out to get keyed.

[Ooloo]

Farming 40k takes a long ass time too, depending on class. Time that could be spent camping the pieces!

Just knock out the VP pieces starting at 50 whenever you have some time to kill, it's really not that bad if you do it piecemeal. KC basement xp is still pretty good at 59, so get verix really whenever you want.

And if you're not in a guild that can kill\compete for trak you probably won't have much fun in VP anyway