Pvp battle vanilla era level 20 self attained gear

[Gustoo]

Dwarf Paladin
Vs
Troll SK

Self attained gear only so pretty rags style.

Considerations is that neither have enough resist to do much resisting.

[ol chew]

my guess is pally tries to swim away into dagnars but since the troll grew up splashing in the swamp he uses the swimming skill advantage to pull some sort of submarine maneuver ending the fight with a HT before the pally even thinks to LoH

but what do i kno

[Kupoking]

Not sure who would win but Troll SK would be fighting in rags. Nothing interesting drops for them pre 20.

[magnetaress]

Dwarf pally. Bow quest.

[Gustoo]

Troll regen basically beats bow quest at low skill level and the troll can use a bow too

[magnetaress]

Troll regen basically beats bow quest at low skill level and the troll can use a bow too

Idk between jousting and bow my wood elf warrior killed a troll.

I los-d there spells. I shot them when they sat for med ticks and I think it also helped against their regen so I could win via attrition. They htd me but I survived and hit them with crippling hits.

They could have probably ran deep and died to mobs or /q but the where honorable and my lower hp made them hungry so they came in for me. I doubt I could have stood toe to toe with them and if a green mob agrod me it would have been gg. Without that bow the troll would have gotten ticks off sitting.

Also does skillups even matter in pvp.

[Chortles Snortles]

and then, everybody clapped
(lol)

[Gustoo]

Some dumbs use tuned bone fork and don’t carry a bow.

So as always it comes down to the player more than the character. I think a paladin out for blood vs a sk out for blood would give a run for money but the troll sk in butcher is usually the one out for blood.

Gear up a paladin and park him at the swamp to take justice into his own hands. Get stuck on tree root and die

[magnetaress]

Some dumbs use tuned bone fork and don’t carry a bow.

So as always it comes down to the player more than the character. I think a paladin out for blood vs a sk out for blood would give a run for money but the troll sk in butcher is usually the one out for blood.

Gear up a paladin and park him at the swamp to take justice into his own hands. Get stuck on tree root and die

lol pally def outmatched in the swamp

there is that friendly npc camp in butcher !

[Robersonroger38]

Flash of light , would def give the pally an advantage, what’s magic resistance on a troll with that kinda gear ?

[Gustoo]

Like, 45 tops with level 30 non twink gear before gear trickles down (early days of server)

Flash of light will land 100 percent.

[magnetaress]

Flash of light , would def give the pally an advantage, what’s magic resistance on a troll with that kinda gear ?

At best they'll resist every other given access to plat farming and kunark bought

I can think of 3 items that'd get them at least +20 mr

Hbb. Hamadeslds ring- that mantle. I think a Bracer from kunark that is +5?

[Gustoo]

We’re talking vanilla level 20 early days new server not kunark era

[magnetaress]

Weighs much more heavily in favor of dwarf pally then.

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DMG: 13
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Race: ALL

Or

hiny Brass Shield
Classic Era (added 1999-2000)
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Class: ALL except NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL

And bow

Or the disease protection shields etc...

Dwarven ringmail

All kinds if good stuff


Lvl should be capped at 20

[Zuranthium]

Flash of light , would def give the pally an advantage

Not with Fear enabled, in the lovely days of 1999. ;)

[magnetaress]

how long was fear and charm a viable strat? iirc it didnt even last like a full year like a few months

[Gustoo]

I think it was like three months. It’s gotta be in patch notes, maybe. I think some pvp changes were not in the patch notes though.

It was really short and those classes weren’t popular since they were evil they also seldom made it to non evil places like a necro in GFay but it did happen and it’s a legend. I think charm fully worked on players too and that’s the ultimate.

Also, held items were lootable so melees were in some cases reduced to fists. I think these all changed in the first pvp patch.

And it was a strat to make a monk for this reason so you could be a care free fighter who doesn’t even bother to do CRs you just jump right back in.

Death started you with full nana and hp too, so you could get back in the action way quicker.

[magnetaress]

I think some pvp changes were not in the patch notes though.

this is what i found out when i tried to do my own discovery and unfortunately its hard to prove especially wizard dmg nukes

[magnetaress]

i would like to see a short 3 month progression of the rules from hardcore to softcore (what it more orr less is now)

[magnetaress]

i really want to make this server so bad

[magnetaress]

characters would only live 1 year and all their items would decay after 1 year, would be 1 extra database entry for each table. Would just check timestamps on login and poof they go away.

[Gustoo]

An attempt to replicate actual 1999 pvp server would be really cool with good and bad. Red should have been rallos rule set or at least vallon or tallon to be classic and had egg shaped pumices and all the actual classic stuff, just for the full mayhem.

[Gustoo]

To be more in line with the vision TM

I’m just hoping if rogean and Nilbog get legit tired of running p99 they can make the amazing work this project has done ez mode turnkey for people to make similar excellent servers without re doing all the work.

Ideally this excellent team simply chooses to
Support the pvp community again.

[magnetaress]

To be more in line with the vision TM

I’m just hoping if rogean and Nilbog get legit tired of running p99 they can make the amazing work this project has done ez mode turnkey for people to make similar excellent servers without re doing all the work.

Ideally this excellent team simply chooses to
Support the pvp community again.

aye

my big deal where i dont like the other servers is they are just wierd custom/accelerated timelines stuff like that they dont hang around in vanilla with classic rallos rules so much

[greatdane]

At those levels, the paladin would automatically win due to lay hands. They'll each have 600ish hit points, but a level 20 harmtouch only does about 130 damage in PvP while lay hands heals you fully. The paladin will also have enough mana to heal for about 400 total, which is pretty easy to do against a level 20 shadowknight who's not going to be sitting on you with fast attacks. Meanwhile, the SK's spells are largely irrelevant. He can lifetap for a total of, what, 100ish on a full mana bar? Clinging darkness does practically no damage and being snared isn't much of a disadvantage against another melee class at level 20 since they can do nothing relevant from range.

If 72-minute cooldowns aren't up, I still suspect the paladin would win due to self-heals, but it would be a lot closer. Depending on the parameters of the fight, it would technically be possible for the troll to just run around waiting for regen and slowly whittle the paladin down with melee jousting, but it would take so long to benefit from this that it doesn't apply to any real fight where nobody will stand there for twenty minutes like an idiot.

[magnetaress]

Bows even crappy ones delete troll regen like I said. Paladin would wittle troll down. Troll has the easiest time escaping. Butt can only be scary. Not really a threat.

Also troll has tiny mana pool lol.