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ratweed
09-14-2022, 03:02 PM
At level 55, warriors gain a chance to perform a stun with their kick. Does this have any implications for aggro generation?
Curious to know this if I'm ever in a tanking situation where I have a chance of taking a hard-hitting riposte. Thank you.
Jimjam
09-14-2022, 04:18 PM
Doesn’t seem to do any extra aggro.
Melee stuns were bugged in classic (and long after) to not generate the additional aggro they were intended to.
Sorry this doesn't help.
Troxx
09-14-2022, 04:36 PM
No extra aggro. It’s an extra button to press “just because” on most mobs. On caster mobs it can be quite useful.
Man though … if it had even half the aggro of a melee weapon stun proc … that’d be sweet.
ratweed
09-14-2022, 05:32 PM
Not the answer that I was hoping for, but good to know for sure. Jimjam, if you have any source regarding the melee stuns being intended to aggro, I'd be curious to take a look.
The stun component seems to hit just as often as not. Are there any firm numbers about the proc chance?
Troxx
09-14-2022, 05:53 PM
If the mob is casting and you kick and the kick hits, my experience is it always interrupts anything that can be interrupted/stunned.
Exceptions are like stun immune giants in Kael etc that can only be interrupted with push.
Jimjam
09-15-2022, 02:34 AM
Not the answer that I was hoping for, but good to know for sure. Jimjam, if you have any source regarding the melee stuns being intended to aggro, I'd be curious to take a look.
The stun component seems to hit just as often as not. Are there any firm numbers about the proc chance?
It was a dev post on the live forums around about Dragons of Norrath time. It is why they suddenly started adding a lot of furious bash items.
ratweed
09-15-2022, 07:26 AM
Thank you both for the information. That's what I needed to know.
zelld52
09-16-2022, 12:51 PM
Works great in duels too
Toxigen
09-16-2022, 02:12 PM
press moar button do moar hitty-hit
Troxx
09-16-2022, 05:53 PM
press moar button do moar hitty-hit
I still do compulsively even though it only adds like 0.5-2 dps lol
But let’s be honest, when playing a warrior there really aren’t that many buttons to push. Other than positioning a mob and being ready to taunt … having that extra button to HULK SMASH sure does make me feel like a real avenger.
I try not to just spam bang it though if the mob is a caster … especially if said caster is a cleric trying to heal itself or a Krup wizard trying to melt my face off.
But yeah if a 55+ kick generated full stun hate it would be a lot more useful. Even if it had like a 40 second refresh timer. It certainly would make holding aggro easier.
Solist
09-17-2022, 03:25 AM
Dont kick, more riposts if you do. Zero reason to use the skill outside of stunning <55 caster npc's.
DPS is nil.
Troxx
09-17-2022, 05:37 PM
Extra ripostes from kick are nearly as negligible as the actual dps generated from kick … unless you’re raid tanking AoW or some other comparable relative ass beater.
Not that it bothers me. I tank with a 43 delay 2 hander so I’m already taking 3-4 less in riposte damage compared to your average dual wield warrior. God damn I love me some Frostreaver.
Toxigen
09-20-2022, 01:26 PM
Extra ripostes from kick are nearly as negligible as the actual dps generated from kick … unless you’re raid tanking AoW or some other comparable relative ass beater.
Not that it bothers me. I tank with a 43 delay 2 hander so I’m already taking 3-4 less in riposte damage compared to your average dual wield warrior. God damn I love me some Frostreaver.
King Dain is proud.
Naethyn
09-20-2022, 07:15 PM
I hit kick after every taunt, because if taunt succeeds im now 27 or so over.
Jimjam
09-21-2022, 07:56 AM
I hit kick after every taunt, because if taunt succeeds im now 27 or so over.
I'll be laughed at, but I like to have a macro that turns off attack, taunts, kicks, disarms, turns on attack.
The hope is I'll pop the button when someone makes a big aggro. After successful taunting I'll land a kick, disarm and a full round of attacks to tide over my aggro until the next big aggro dump someone makes for me to piggy back off.
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