Has there ever been a race to see who can get to 60 first naked with no gear?

[sentinel]

I was just thinking which would be the easiest and it is probably a necro or something.

[Foxplay]

It would be a bard and it would not even be close

[Toxigen]

It would be a bard and it would not even be close

yup

[sentinel]

Ah, that's true.

[Gustoo]

Not counting bard cuz hax it would be enchanter and then probably druid and necro and shaman

Enchanter because of charm. Druid because of charm animal.

[Foxplay]

Not counting bard cuz hax it would be enchanter and then probably druid and necro and shaman

Enchanter because of charm. Druid because of charm animal.

Not knocking druid, great class and levels, easily, with relative safety (pretty much 100% safety in outdoor zones due to ensnare). But imho Necromancer is a stronger class if you are strictly comparing leveling ability, base kit with no gear (additional mana pool)

The presented question says naked with no gear. So it all boils down to raw mana efficiency and regeneration as base mana pool is going to be pretty "meh". Druid charms are not as strong or efficent as torching humanoid / undead charms and cycling thru charms, which means to be more efficent as a druid charming you have to reverse charm kill to get the damage output that any enc or necro can get with a backpack full of torches / lutes (assuming torches and lutes are not breaking the "no gear" rule) since you are not equiping them on your own character, but on your pets.

How I would rank it....

Now granted level 60 takes multiple days.... even for the most hardcore players sleep, work(for those that have a job lol), or account sharing will play a factor in a real life scenario on a race to 60...So you could very easily see another class reach 60 first simply because said player plays 16hours a day / account shares, etc, etc....

However in theorectial by the numbers scenario "race" with individual player skill or time commitment per day is equalized... assuming all players / classes have a high level of skill and Everquest Game knowledge (because EQ is largely a knowledge based game) just simply boiling down the numbers I would rank it as such....

1) Bard (Obvious reason)
2) Enchanter (Charm with no level gaps, +torch)
3) Necromancer (charm some level gaps, +self mana, +torch)
4) Druid (charm)
5) Shaman (Dots, +self mana)
6) Wizard
7) Mage (Very difficult "not really worth the hassle" but possible)

Rest wont get to 60 completely naked. A ranger could do it if you allow them a tolan bracer and a bow or some fine steel swords to fear kite animals.... But none of the melee classes or even hybrids are going to be mana efficent enough to kill mobs to 60 completely naked.... Heck most melee / hybrid classes would struggle to gear 60 completely solo WITH gear.

[Jimjam]

Clearly 'without gear' means using only your 5 milk, 5 bread, weapon* and maybe a candle plus a couple of spell/song scrolls.

Firstly, that means no buying new spells! Scrolls are items and items used are gear. Incidentally, it is a shame none of the level 1 spells scale up all the way to 50 or 60. That would have been cool (so like a wizard's level 1 nuke at level 50 would do 33 damage, with a 2.25 second recast for 15 dps at a cost of about 21 mana/tick).

Secondly, given those restrictions I think Iksar monk is the only contender for being able to be close to hitting 60 with no gear / spells added. Certainly in her 20s and I think 30s my monk could still kill xp mobs naked. It was kinda crazy!

[Keebz]

1) Bard (Obvious reason)
2) Enchanter (Charm with no level gaps, +torch)
3) Necromancer (charm some level gaps, +self mana, +torch)
4) Druid (charm)
5) Shaman (Dots, +self mana)
6) Wizard
7) Mage (Very difficult "not really worth the hassle" but possible)



Is ench really better than necro without CHA gear? Also mage is not "very difficult". You just summon a pet and focus on single spawns. It is easy mode.

[Tewaz]

Necro would definitely win. Enchanter really struggles until charming gets rolling and a necro would be able to separate itself in those early stages pretty well with fear kiting.

They both hit their stride with charming and they can take the same quick path through the 50's in HS.

Plus they have better mana regen and an easier time recovering from a bad situation.

Now I'm kind of intrigued about leveling a Necro to 60 Ironman naked.

[Homesteaded]

Mage is really being snubbed here.

[hobart]

I think the one person doing it, if they got it done, would be the "race". I doubt there'd be competition to this without a substantial pp prize.

Instead of naked, it would be more interesting like a survival show where you get to bring X number of items. Oh, you should also be able to use items you loot yourself, items you craft, and anything you can buy from a vendor as long as its on that vendor's loot table.

[Jimjam]

“Naked an elf raid”

[Vexenu]

I think people are wildly overestimating the ability of a naked Enchanter. It's a hell of a lot harder and much more dangerous to charm when you've got only your base CHA, a small mana pool, no HP gear, no JBoots, no Gazughi ring, no WC cap, etc...

The Necro is able to perform much closer to their normal geared baseline even without gear due to the nature of their spell line. Hell, it's conceivable that a good Druid could out-level an Enchanter if they're both naked. Snare and SoW go a long way to making charming safer, and don't underestimate the convenience of ports for leveling quickly.

Also, a naked Mage easily out-levels a naked Wizard. A naked Wizard can't quad, and literally just has to root/nuke singles over and over and med in between, meanwhile the Mage is basically expending just 200 mana for pet and a little more for a small finishing nuke for each mob if he knows what he's doing, and is medding through each fight. A naked Cleric would out-level a naked Wizard, since they'd basically be doing the same thing, (root nuking) but the Cleric has a bunch of other useful tools in the bag, as well.

[Tewaz]

I started an iksar necro to try this. Getting kills at level one with no weapon is surprisingly difficult. I had to dump my points into hand to hand and I could only kill decaying skeletons. Anything else hit too hard.

I finally got a few skeleton kills that carried weapons to eventually buy my pet spell, so now I'm on the way!

[sentinel]

The Necro is able to perform much closer to their normal geared baseline even without gear due to the nature of their spell line. Hell, it's conceivable that a good Druid could out-level an Enchanter if they're both naked. Snare and SoW go a long way to making charming safer, and don't underestimate the convenience of ports for leveling quickly.


Thank you. Outside a swarming Bard, the second best naked leveling is necro. Increased safety (FD, pet) heals, and its own ability to enchanter like sh it in undead areas make necros extremely powerful no gear soloers.

Also, Enchanters work best using their insane abilities when they have support, like in a group. Of course it is possible to do it solo given all the power of an enchanter, but you see their raw consistent power in a group.