Future warm-body: what classes do raid guilds need?

[Willow_99]

Rog for DPS? Cleric for heals?
If I go bard can I just chill in camp and play mana-song or will I have to make plays?
I have 6 children and 2 dogs so keeping it simple.

[Imago]

Make a Rogue. Get an epic. Thrive

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If you can't pay too much attention to the raids themselves you would probably want to go Druid or Wizard so you can focus on porting and other utilities that don't really need you to focus hard, and you can step away from.

Even on a Rogue you may be asked to drag corpses and whatnot, which can be a tough task depending on the area.

Same with Cleric, you will need to be able to be a part of the chain when necessary, and you can't really take a break from it while it's rolling hehe.

[Willow_99]

What makes corpse dragging difficult?
Wizard might be fun.
Thanks.

[Keebz]

Wizard can be pretty active with kiting, TLing, AoEing, etc. Depends on the raid. Very easy to get RA though!

Rogue is just assisting the MA and maybe bumping rarely.

I second the Rogue recommendation. Hella chill.

[Corso]

Mobs that see through sneak+hide, traps. But 99% of the time rogue is super chill on raids, epic is extremely easy to get and with it you really add something to the raid.
Wizard is a solid choice as well.

[Stonewallx39]

Rogue is nice and cathartic you just swing away and look for positioning. Big D dps is ALWAYS fun. You’ll get groups right away when you go lfg for raid and if you need to slip away for a minute due to family hide/sneak to a safe afk spot (out of LoS or range of raid would be good so you don’t catch an aoe). You will be missed when you afk since group might not get xp any longer.

Wizard is also fun but you’ll almost always feel less in demand. Still something to be said about jet setting mobility and melting Kunark dragons. No one will notice when you AFK. Definitely go dark elf if wizard and follow sol ro. The faction is neutral damn near everywhere (maybe felwithe maight be a little salty if you stroll in and order an ale). Hide and ultra vision or super quality of life boosts. When you’re running around looking for mobs to tag for your quad there’s nothing worse than not being able to see and getting jumped by a hostile. Hide is just hide. Sit down to med, hide pretty much anywhere… relax.

[Swish]

Just came by to recommend the rogue. You'll need to be grouped to level up realistically but you know when you're hides are successful and that quick afk you might need is at the touch of a button most of the time. Even if your group gets trained you should be safe mostly if you were already hidden.

[Willow_99]

Thanks for input all.
I have rolled a rogue.
Pretty gimpy gear and struggling to kill blues!
If anyone wants to loan me some rags I will gladly return them when I hit 60 in about 2 years ><

[Allishia]

Thanks for input all.
I have rolled a rogue.
Pretty gimpy gear and struggling to kill blues!
If anyone wants to loan me some rags I will gladly return them when I hit 60 in about 2 years ><

Sometimes rogues are required to move / help set up pets. Also sometimes to fte mobs and bump them with nimble or counter attack.

https://youtu.be/_p9F5TcQnbM

[Toxigen]

just go SK you never be asked to do anything

[evilwizard]

as a wizard, if you ever hit 60, you'll spend 6+ months trying to get vs for your epic. then, maybe get a clicky robe - still won't be able to farm anything cool except for lower level mobs for a slow trickle of plat.

depending on how raid guilds are now though, you could always save your dkp for stuff to sell in EC and make enough to twink out an alt to have fun on for a few months before you decide to quit playing

[Treefall]

as a wizard, if you ever hit 60, you'll spend 6+ months trying to get vs for your epic. then, maybe get a clicky robe - still won't be able to farm anything cool except for lower level mobs for a slow trickle of plat.

depending on how raid guilds are now though, you could always save your dkp for stuff to sell in EC and make enough to twink out an alt to have fun on for a few months before you decide to quit playing

Is the life of a Wizard really that bad? You can sell ports without having to go yourself.

You can mass AE low level mobs.

You can hold down a lot of x minute 1-2 spawn cash camps.

You can quad money mobs.

There definitely are way better farming/plat classes, but I don't think a Wizard is at the bottom by any means. Especially if you're a person that likes to knock out a few mobs and go do something else for a bit. Would definitely recommend DE for hide though.

[evilwizard]

Is the life of a Wizard really that bad? You can sell ports without having to go yourself.

You can mass AE low level mobs.

You can hold down a lot of x minute 1-2 spawn cash camps.

You can quad money mobs.

There definitely are way better farming/plat classes, but I don't think a Wizard is at the bottom by any means. Especially if you're a person that likes to knock out a few mobs and go do something else for a bit. Would definitely recommend DE for hide though.

Selling ports/TLs is boring, but viable I guess?

There are quite a few low level camps that I PBAE by using epic / pulling with flux / jylls / pants / jylls. It's ~ok~ but not great.

Quadding money mobs can be hit or miss. HGs are off the table due to the new way that they spawn. Mobs that drop gems can net you absolutely nothing after spending hours doing it.

I'm a DE, hide is 100% better than any other racial for a wizard imo

[Treefall]

Selling ports/TLs is boring, but viable I guess?

There are quite a few low level camps that I PBAE by using epic / pulling with flux / jylls / pants / jylls. It's ~ok~ but not great.

Quadding money mobs can be hit or miss. HGs are off the table due to the new way that they spawn. Mobs that drop gems can net you absolutely nothing after spending hours doing it.

I'm a DE, hide is 100% better than any other racial for a wizard imo

See, I am not saying you are a great farm class - but there is no way that capability is at the bottom.

[Vexenu]

Wizard is really only worthwhile if you want to raid while expending the least amount of effort possible to stockpile DKP (or are just a lazy player in general). It's quite a fantastic class in that regard, actually.

[Foxplay]

Played and raided with most classes (see sig)

If you want to warm body and never be asked to do anything other than the occasional CR / body dragging I would say rogue....

Wizard is a great choice as well but there is a lot of things wizard can do that rogue cannot that goes beyond the "warm body" descriptor... Wizards can help move people around for different targets / windows which that alone is a lot more time and "involvement" than your typical rogue log in, auto attack backstab... they can aggro kite better than any other class

Rogue is always in higher demand than wizard, simply because melee dps takes center spotlight in velious (unless you are extreme wizard stacking with guild bots... but at that point the same amount of rogues are probably going to have a similar effect in plastering the boss into oblivion anyway)

At that point it becomes what are your gearing and goals outside of just warm body raiding.... a Rogue cant really do much on their own even with extremely good gear their solo play is laughable compared to other classes. Even for small man plat farms most teams will just bring a monk/enc/shm or cleric. Wizard can solo decently, Rend robe, epic, and Manna Robe(or manastone for oldworld) and Wizard feels like a new class entirely (just root and click things to death) So long as they dont summon your gucci

[Foxplay]

as a wizard, if you ever hit 60, you'll spend 6+ months trying to get vs for your epic. then, maybe get a clicky robe - still won't be able to farm anything cool except for lower level mobs for a slow trickle of plat.

depending on how raid guilds are now though, you could always save your dkp for stuff to sell in EC and make enough to twink out an alt to have fun on for a few months before you decide to quit playing

If you want to farm plat play a Enc , shm, or bard.... no amount of gear will overcome what these 3 classes can do with just their base kit and game knowledge