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Rainik Stormseeker
07-17-2022, 02:37 AM
Thoughts? UN article pulled from the site on 7/6/22; ty wayback machine.
The Benefits of World Hunger (https://web.archive.org/web/20220706173519/https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/benefits-world-hunger)
"We sometimes talk about hunger in the world as if it were a scourge that all of us want to see abolished, viewing it as comparable with the plague or aids. But that naïve view prevents us from coming to grips with what causes and sustains hunger. Hunger has great positive value to many people. Indeed, it is fundamental to the working of the world's economy. Hungry people are the most productive people, especially where there is a need for manual labour.
We in developed countries sometimes see poor people by the roadside holding up signs saying "Will Work for Food". Actually, most people work for food. It is mainly because people need food to survive that they work so hard either in producing food for themselves in subsistence-level production, or by selling their services to others in exchange for money. How many of us would sell our services if it were not for the threat of hunger?
More importantly, how many of us would sell our services so cheaply if it were not for the threat of hunger? When we sell our services cheaply, we enrich others, those who own the factories, the machines and the lands, and ultimately own the people who work for them. For those who depend on the availability of cheap labour, hunger is the foundation of their wealth.
The conventional thinking is that hunger is caused by low-paying jobs. For example, an article reports on "Brazil's ethanol slaves: 200,000 migrant sugar cutters who prop up renewable energy boom".1 While it is true that hunger is caused by low-paying jobs, we need to understand that hunger at the same time causes low-paying jobs to be created. Who would have established massive biofuel production operations in Brazil if they did not know there were thousands of hungry people desperate enough to take the awful jobs they would offer? Who would build any sort of factory if they did not know that many people would be available to take the jobs at low-pay rates?
Much of the hunger literature talks about how it is important to assure that people are well fed so that they can be more productive. That is nonsense. No one works harder than hungry people. Yes, people who are well nourished have greater capacity for productive physical activity, but well-nourished people are far less willing to do that work.
The non-governmental organization Free the Slaves defines slaves as people who are not allowed to walk away from their jobs. It estimates that there are about 27 million slaves in the world,2 including those who are literally locked into workrooms and held as bonded labourers in South Asia. However, they do not include people who might be described as slaves to hunger, that is, those who are free to walk away from their jobs but have nothing better to go to. Maybe most people who work are slaves to hunger?
For those of us at the high end of the social ladder, ending hunger globally would be a disaster. If there were no hunger in the world, who would plow the fields? Who would harvest our vegetables? Who would work in the rendering plants? Who would clean our toilets? We would have to produce our own food and clean our own toilets. No wonder people at the high end are not rushing to solve the hunger problem. For many of us, hunger is not a problem, but an asset."
Notes 1 Tom Phillipps, "Brazil's ethanol slaves: 200,000 migrant sugar cutters who prop up renewable energy boom". The Guardian. Online, 9 March 2007.
http://environment.guardian.co.uk/energy/story/0,,2030144,00.html
2 Free the Slaves. Online, 2007. http://www.freetheslaves.net/
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 02:43 AM
The Benefits of World Hunger
White: Covid
Red: Russia
Black: Famine
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GinnasP99
07-17-2022, 05:02 AM
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
-Revelation 6:5-6
Sheep.
Follow the leader.
Learn about cheap labour making item A.
Buy item A at an amazingly low price and tell your friends. Just not the bit about the imbalance in the equation, namely The main fucking reason why the item cheap is cuz there are too many lazy amoral cunts who want cheap shit.
Not the emergence of the few million/billionaire cunts encouraging us.
But you smart, large brained peeps here already knew this.
loramin
07-17-2022, 11:46 AM
Hey guys, I have a new contrarian edgelord opinion to share: people dying of starvation is good!
Aren't I cool for having such an edgy opinion that's contrary to the mainstream?
robayon
07-17-2022, 11:49 AM
hello i didn't read the article and will not but the thread of violence, starvation, homelessness is literally a necessary part of our greedy and violent way of life
if the threat of these things didn't exist why would people work shit jobs at all?
anyways, takes like this are sociopathic and anyone who publishes them should be forced to do a few years of work in the jobs they're referring to.
Reiwa
07-17-2022, 12:12 PM
The fair trade self-martyrdom must end.
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 12:34 PM
Hey guys, I have a new contrarian edgelord opinion to share: people dying of starvation is good!
Aren't I cool for having such an edgy opinion that's contrary to the mainstream?
You do realize that like we’re jokingly agreeing with the far left UN saying that it’s good?
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 01:30 PM
if the threat of these things didn't exist why would people work shit jobs at all?
I agree with you but what if instead of something so mortal, two immortal interdimensional beings have a discussion about whether a universe with entropy would work or not.
One says the people in it will feel emotion and that will invent JOY! The other says they will feel only pain.
Then they make a bet to see which one can collect the most souls that agree with them.
Reiwa
07-17-2022, 01:46 PM
I agree with you but what if instead of something so mortal, two immortal interdimensional beings have a discussion about whether a universe with entropy would work or not.
One says the people in it will feel emotion and that will invent JOY! The other says they will feel only pain.
Then they make a bet to see which one can collect the most souls that agree with them.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/2349438a-dacb-4174-bcb0-9c52ff8119a8
Videri
07-17-2022, 02:18 PM
This article is tongue-in-cheek, albeit bitterly so. It is not actually celebrating hunger. It is criticizing those at the top for not using their wealth and power to solve hunger because they aren't financially motivated to do so.
This is made evident in the final paragraph:
"For those of us at the high end of the social ladder, ending hunger globally would be a disaster. If there were no hunger in the world, who would plow the fields? Who would harvest our vegetables? Who would work in the rendering plants? Who would clean our toilets? We would have to produce our own food and clean our own toilets. No wonder people at the high end are not rushing to solve the hunger problem. For many of us, hunger is not a problem, but an asset."
He's pretending to be the "us" and he's saying "us" is an asshole.
Again, if you think the UN or the individual who wrote the article actually prefers a world where there is mass hunger, you are dumb.
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 02:39 PM
If we organize our trash and start eating bugs then all the wealthy can still build mega yachts.
Reiwa
07-17-2022, 02:44 PM
If we organize our trash and start eating bugs then all the wealthy can still build mega yachts.
Rich people houses always have way too many bathrooms so their consumption must be pretty epic if they need all that.
robayon
07-17-2022, 03:11 PM
If we organize our trash and start eating bugs then all the wealthy can still build mega yachts.eating bugs isn't so bad, depends on the bug. there's a long history of bug eating in many cultures.
there's still room to snack on the bugs as we burn the yachts.
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 03:18 PM
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robayon
07-17-2022, 03:22 PM
there's a lot of great reasons to ignore what popes say.
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 03:27 PM
The question i have is why does the world bank and him agree while they eat cake?
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robayon
07-17-2022, 03:59 PM
The question i have is why does the world bank and him agree while they eat cake?
https://i.imgur.com/uJGRUc6.pnghttps://www.sundaypost.com/fp/humanity-will-not-survive-extinction-of-most-marine-plants-and-animals/
Rainik Stormseeker
07-17-2022, 04:13 PM
This article is tongue-in-cheek, albeit bitterly so. It is not actually celebrating hunger. It is criticizing those at the top for not using their wealth and power to solve hunger because they aren't financially motivated to do so.
This is made evident in the final paragraph:
"For those of us at the high end of the social ladder, ending hunger globally would be a disaster. If there were no hunger in the world, who would plow the fields? Who would harvest our vegetables? Who would work in the rendering plants? Who would clean our toilets? We would have to produce our own food and clean our own toilets. No wonder people at the high end are not rushing to solve the hunger problem. For many of us, hunger is not a problem, but an asset."
He's pretending to be the "us" and he's saying "us" is an asshole.
Again, if you think the UN or the individual who wrote the article actually prefers a world where there is mass hunger, you are dumb.
Then why'd they pull the article?
robayon
07-17-2022, 04:15 PM
Then why'd they pull the article?probably because you linked it. good job.
Rainik Stormseeker
07-17-2022, 04:17 PM
eating bugs isn't so bad, depends on the bug. there's a long history of bug eating in many cultures.
Yes, because they are/were poor and/or oppressed. It's not like Cambodians WANTED to resort to eating tarantulas; Communist dictator Pol Pat starved them into it.
(https://www.mashed.com/798018/the-grim-connection-between-cambodias-fried-tarantulas-and-dictator-pol-pot/)
"Tarantulas were therefore especially useful during the brutal reign of dictator Pol Pot in Cambodia from 1975 to 1979. Up to two million Cambodians are estimated to have died during those four years, reveals History, including many from starvation. Tarantulas were abundant in the country, so locals were forced to eat them as a consequence of increased famine. They were harvested by lighting fires to send them underground, from which they would later emerge and be caught once the flames had been extinguished
there's still room to snack on the bugs as we burn the yachts.
Just like mask-wearing and experimental vax-taking - you do you, boo.
robayon
07-17-2022, 04:50 PM
guess this dude's never heard of beondegi. or that certain forms of locusts have long been considered kosher. broad assumptions that display cultural ignorance.
feel free to try and tie everything you don't like to communism, it makes no difference. i didn't click your link. you can buy crickets to eat here in north georgia. they taste like toothpicks. is north georgia communist?
tell me what is objectively different about eating mammal, bird or fish flesh compared to bugs. objectively.
Ooloo
07-17-2022, 05:01 PM
Lol did anyone actually read it? I mean I already know you probably didn't, rob admitted as much, but you probably should at least read something before formulating an opinion on it.
Hint: This piece is not saying that world hunger is good, nor is the OP.
Reiwa
07-17-2022, 05:01 PM
tell me what is objectively different about eating mammal, bird or fish flesh compared to bugs. objectively.
It's been tried.
https://i.imgur.com/rNBnPQz.jpeg
Ooloo
07-17-2022, 05:03 PM
tell me what is objectively different about eating mammal, bird or fish flesh compared to bugs. objectively.
The first three things taste much better to the vast majority of humans, thus increasing their quality of life. Preferences are subjective, but clear trends in reported opinions are certainly objective.
Why do lefties always seem to want everyone to be poor and miserable? Their solution to inequity isn't to raise everyone else up, it's usually to cut everyone else down. If we redistribute wealth globally so that every single human has the same amount, *everyone* will be poor and destitute. This is what you want?
Reiwa
07-17-2022, 05:16 PM
The first three things taste much better to the vast majority of humans, thus increasing their quality of life. Preferences are subjective, but clear trends in reported opinions are certainly objective.
Why do lefties always seem to want everyone to be poor and miserable? Their solution to inequity isn't to raise everyone else up, it's usually to cut everyone else down. If we redistribute wealth globally so that every single human has the same amount, *everyone* will be poor and destitute. This is what you want?
They want us to eat acheta domesticus (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8067469/)
Table 2 shows that the highest cholesterol content was found in adult insects of Acheta domesticus (98.5 mg/100 g) and Gryllus bimaculatus (195 mg/100 g), while the lowest was in goose carcass (32.8 mg/100 g). The cholesterol content of insect larvae was similar to that of veal leg, pork shoulder, rabbit carcass, duck carcass, and turkey breast.
The nutritional value of a product can be determined by its nutritional density, which is measured by the nutritional quality index (INQ). The nutritional density of a product depends on its unique nutrient content and energy content. An INQ value of around 1.0 means that the product is well-balanced in terms of the component and energy content. A value below 1.0 indicates that the product does not provide the appropriate amount of nutrients. A value higher than 1.0 indicates that the product has a very high nutrient to energy content.
Also known as the crickets you feed to your pet iguana.
Fucking reptoids rule this world.
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 05:42 PM
The Georgia guide stones are just a prank, bro.
:o
robayon
07-17-2022, 05:51 PM
The first three things taste much better to the vast majority of humans, thus increasing their quality of life. Preferences are subjective, but clear trends in reported opinions are certainly objective.
Why do lefties always seem to want everyone to be poor and miserable? Their solution to inequity isn't to raise everyone else up, it's usually to cut everyone else down. If we redistribute wealth globally so that every single human has the same amount, *everyone* will be poor and destitute. This is what you want?which way western man, starvation wrought by your own actions or a plate of bugs
robayon
07-17-2022, 05:59 PM
also, i'd argue it's capitalism that's going to cut us all down, make us all poor and miserable. it just takes longer because of unequal distribution of resources and mismanagement. we still end up eating bugs either way. i'm just trying to prepare you for the consequences of your actions. i'm trying to help. there's a good chance i won't even be alive to deal with this shit.
also, bugs aren't that bad. but admittedly i am one of those people who can eat almost anything and will try anything once.
besides, at this rate, it won't really be the bugs. a lot of them will go extinct too. i am allergic to cockroaches. it will be whether you can stomach human flesh. that's the glorious future capitalism guarantees you, western man.
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 06:37 PM
we are dying literally lock step book of revelations and you think capitalsm is to blame?
robayon
07-17-2022, 06:41 PM
yes, i think the book of revelations was just a bad trip, had some of those myself and most explanations do not require the supernatural
Jibartik
07-17-2022, 06:45 PM
Will it be murder hornets and flying scorpions that make you change your mind? Or some science experiment to save the plankton that turns the ocean red?
It's the famine/monkey pox that is sealing the deal for me.
They want us to eat acheta domesticus (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8067469/)
Also known as the crickets you feed to your pet iguana.
Fucking reptoids rule this world.
Easy. Feed reptile crickets. Eat reptile. Job done.
Rainik Stormseeker
07-18-2022, 01:07 AM
probably because you linked it. good job.
It was pulled on 7/6
Kaveh
07-18-2022, 01:16 AM
yes, i think the book of revelations was just a bad trip, had some of those myself and most explanations do not require the supernatural
It was written well after the gospels
robayon
07-18-2022, 08:26 AM
It was pulled on 7/6they saw you comin', they're crafty ones
It was written well after the gospelslots of trips took place after the gospels were written
i guess it wouldn't be LSD, that wasn't invented until the 50's or 60's iirc, so maybe some kind of mushrooms or one of those mescaline-like drugs from a cactus. my little brother trips like that if you give him acetominophen
Homesteaded
07-18-2022, 08:44 AM
Claims of hallucinations don’t discredit the value written in the Bible. Seek Christ.
caveslug
07-18-2022, 09:13 AM
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It's not that you need to go vegan so the top cats can eat steak.
It's that people in general and more so western cultures, should consume less meat. We're addicted to cheap meat in western society, I mean even your doctor will tell you to eat less meat.
robayon
07-18-2022, 09:33 AM
Claims of hallucinations don’t discredit the value written in the Bible. Seek Christ.Conservative, blasphemous hypocrites like you are probably the greatest single force that repels people from Christianity :)
Jibartik
07-18-2022, 11:45 AM
It's not that you need to go vegan so the top cats can eat steak.
It's that people in general and more so western cultures, should consume less meat. We're addicted to cheap meat in western society, I mean even your doctor will tell you to eat less meat.
This isnt about eating unsafe levels of meat its about not eating it because the bottom 80% and the top 20% cant both enjoy meat.
So if the bottom 80% makes sacrifices the top 20% can have mega yachts.
You want to make sacrifices so this bitch and the pope can be draped in gold and fly on private jets, thats all this is.
Literally the pope eats steak EVERY NIGHT
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Reiwa
07-18-2022, 11:51 AM
What grade of sirloin does he eat? Isn't that dog food?
Jibartik
07-18-2022, 11:52 AM
lmao sounds like you've already been doing your part to save the world.
To bad it has had no effect!
The rich eat steak on dishware at sporting events.
They want the same box seating all over the world.
Anyone who makes sacrifices to support that is a stupid idiot.
It's one thing to buy a cheap sporting event ticket but to sit there every day, and organize your meals and life, just so they can do that, is disgusting.
You organize your trash so the jenners can have 2 jets it is SO dumb.
Reiwa
07-18-2022, 12:02 PM
lmao sounds like you've already been doing your part to save the world.
To bad it has had no effect!
The rich eat steak on dishware at sporting events.
They want the same box seating all over the world.
Anyone who makes sacrifices to support that is a stupid idiot.
It's one thing to buy a cheap sporting event ticket but to sit there every day, and organize your meals and life, just so they can do that, is disgusting.
You organize your trash so the jenners can have 2 jets it is SO dumb.
I just think the narrative makes no sense if he's eating cheapo steaks.
Jibartik
07-18-2022, 12:06 PM
Hes not wtf lmao they are not asking poor people to eat cheaper steaks theyre asking you to make huge sacrafices every day and to try bugs.
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Reiwa
07-18-2022, 12:08 PM
Hes not you are eating cheepo stakes at all wtf lmao a flank steak would be that but they are not asking americans to eat more flank steaks theyre asking you to make huge sacrafices every day and to try bugs.
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Jibartik
07-18-2022, 12:11 PM
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Jibartik
07-18-2022, 12:51 PM
What if we start by passing a law that overweight people have to join a rehabilitation program.
magnetaress
07-22-2022, 09:21 AM
Clown world
Honk
Honk
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magnetaress
07-22-2022, 09:23 AM
What if we start by passing a law that overweight people have to join a rehabilitation program.
Down with this. I mean. Yes. Up with this. Great law. Whateverver!
The disabled amoral sinners should not be free until all satanic energy is cleansed from them. Including me.
Or just mercifully contain them. With like a Bible to read. Until they die. Naturally of course.
Amen.
magnetaress
07-22-2022, 09:31 AM
The problem with the hunger games is that rich ppl don't even have to play without their armies and toys vs ppl like me. Who would happily engage in recycling people at this point if not direct cannibalism.
Yes. I think I'll go to hell with that sin in my heart if not through my actions. Because I love G-d's creation and G-d did not intend for humans to be so selfish and gluttonous.
Not from hatred. Just pure absolute love for the universe incarnate without mankind's corruption upon it.
Where is Apophis?
magnetaress
07-22-2022, 09:35 AM
People can be gluttons without being physically fat btw.
That was why the famine horserider was skinny in supernatural.
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