I want an abortion!

[BlackBellamy]

Will trade $200 and a 2005 Civic for an abortion. Back room or back alley or back of my Honda is fine. PST.

[starkind]

American Airlines Flight 11 economy class ticket

2cnd~!

[Jibartik]

Laughs from a district camp in 2027.

[hobart]

Will trade $200 and a 2005 Civic for an abortion. Back room or back alley or back of my Honda is fine. PST.

You're pretty well off for a p99 player. Manwhore?

[Nocht]

Its time for another exciting episode of "Liberals Losing Their Shit Over Dumb Stuff"!!

aaaaand heres our host the unhinged Gravydoo!!

psst Gravy thats your queue

[hobart]

Its time for another exciting episode of "Liberals Losing Their Shit Over Dumb Stuff"!!

aaaaand heres our host the unhinged Gravydoo!!

psst Gravy thats your queue

Histrionics. Like when you tell a Trumptard you should need to be 21 to buy a gun.

[Reiwa]

Its time for another exciting episode of "Liberals Losing Their Shit Over Dumb Stuff"!!

aaaaand heres our host the unhinged Gravydoo!!

psst Gravy thats your queue

'Cue'

[starkind]

Is it illegal to kill AI's yet?

[Jibartik]

Remember in Isaac Asimov's Foundation, after the humans won the AI wars, they killed every AI - and every AI collaborator?

https://i.imgur.com/vBdvCJH.gif

And terrifying because that basically means all empathetic people!

[robayon]

Is it illegal to kill AI's yet?https://i.imgur.com/hOVXJ4J.jpeg

[Jibartik]

I wonder if in the history of AI there will be a chapter, for the long period of time there was NO such thing as AI but people anthapamorphised machine learning so much that they thought there was, and people started marrying their computers and falling in love, and then like many many years later they all discovered they basically were married to a hammer, or a Buick.

[Reiwa]

Dumb guy here, but I say prosecuting interstate abortions would violate either the commerce clause or compact clause or both.

So there!

[Jibartik]

I mean in what universe do we think we can say someone cant cross a line?

[Reiwa]

I mean in what universe do we think we can say someone cant cross a line?

Ralph pls go (https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4188&context=flr)

[Gustoo]

Ralph pls go (https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4188&context=flr)

Anyone who believes in good government knows that roe v wade and the way the Supreme Court in USA can autojam new morality into our society is questionable and made an issue that solved organically elsewhere into a hot button issue for the last 50
Fuckin years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00057m8

Listen to this actual big brain to have your spirit cleansed of bullshit hogwash trash you may hear on TV. It is gold, and provides interesting insight for our problems despite being from a British perspective (mirror world USA)

[Reiwa]

Anyone who believes in good government knows that roe v wade and the way the Supreme Court in USA can autojam new morality into our society is questionable and made an issue that solved organically elsewhere into a hot button issue for the last 50
Fuckin years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00057m8

Listen to this actual big brain to have your spirit cleansed of bullshit hogwash trash you may hear on TV. It is gold, and provides interesting insight for our problems despite being from a British perspective (mirror world USA)

I'm not autistic enough to listen to podcasts, soz. 🙃

[Gustoo]

It’s not a podcast it’s an audio recording.

You’ll like it.

But I was just on Imgur and I’m seeing all these people talking about how the Supreme Court just made something illegal.

All I see them doing is not saying something must be legal.

It’s tough because we have big government over reach and I believe it should be cut down big time and that states should make more individual choices and that the federal government sucks.

But at the same time they’re still so big and terrible and no one does democracy right now so i can see how it’s tough for a law like this to change.

There’s a handful of states that aren’t on the same page about abortion as the federal government once forced them to be.

I dunno it’s pretty dumb.

[Bardp1999]

I don't believe abortion is a good thing but I believe even more in the government staying the fuck out of my life. Giving states the option to be radical in what they can impose on citizens is literally the only function of the federal government and they are punting so crazy fucks like Ted Cruz can go on religious zealot campaigns that appeal to elderly voters or others that are affected 0% and are soap boxing from their ivy tower.

DONT KILL BABIES, HAIL JESUS, I HAVE NO DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT I HAVE BIG TIME OPINIONS ON THE MATTER

[Jibartik]

Ralph pls go (https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4188&context=flr)

look if you think we're going to live in a post rapture movie's antichrist version of america because of roe v wade then by all means, I hope you're right.

but we will never live in a version of america where anyone is not able to cross state lines to do whatever the fuck they want.

[Gustoo]

Tbh im almost coming around.

On one hand, stfu feds, eat a duck

On the other, fuck off everyone don’t tell me what to do.

I guess the issue really is about the fact that this topic is when is it okay to kill a baby. And the federal government isn’t capable of making that decision.

As to people who think everyone should be able to make the decision on their own (and therefore believe the federal government should mandate legality) the issue is the fact that to a pro lifer, that’s the same as the federal government saying it’s okay to kill a baby.

And to those that say Christian morals or whatever shouldn’t dictate anything, okay, however actual morals always dictate everything. That’s how we decide adult v adult murder is not okay, and every other real law we have.

But I dunno. I guess 50 years of fighting about it hadn’t fixed it.

Go burn down your state legislature that can make abortion legal in about ten minutes, if this law impacts you.

Im in cali, we’ve been killing babies and banning uglies from the streets from day one.

[Duik]

I wonder if in the history of AI there will be a chapter, for the long period of time there was NO such thing as AI but people anthapamorphised machine learning so much that they thought there was, and people started marrying their computers and falling in love, and then like many many years later they all discovered they basically were married to a hammer, or a Buick.

It's anthropomorphized, but i guess you already knew that. Being big brained and all.
Gunz.

[DMN]

this thread is already an abortion.

and i just had this funny vision of oprah waddling out: you get an abortion! you get an aortion! you all get abortions!

And bless her soul. anyone who watches that trash should be sterilized.

[Awweshux]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=589142522573629&set=a.321177739370110

[Awweshux]

Let's talk about herbs that must be avoided during pregnancy❤️
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Good ol penny royal tea will destroy your liver, please don't drink it. However it's also important to know that a strongly infused oil should not be rubbed on the pelvic area as it may, with repeated use, cause loss of pregnancy
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Cotton root bark, this one should never be drunk as a tea, it has a long history of being problematic during early pregnancy. It also has a capacity to thin blood so women who accidentally ingest this will need to counter this with something like shepherds purse or vit K
•
Black cohosh, blue cohosh, & angelic root should absolutely never be taken during pregnancy especially alongside one another. These three have the capacity to disrupt hormone development & will typically cause bleeding to begin in just a handful of days in very early pregnancy
•
Queen Anne's lace should be avoided by anyone who's attempting to conceive, she has a tendency to make the uterine wall slippery & prevents the precious egg from implanting. It's also important to know that during pregnancy if the egg can't implant the pregnancy won't continue
•
Mugwort should also be avoided as small amounts consumed in early stage pregnancy may cause uterine contractions, it's also worth noting that infused body oils may have the same effect albeit a bit safer for the liver
•
Rue, while not a commonly used herb, is showing up more in tea blends. This one can also be really problematic during pregnancy so much so that women for thousands of years have known to avoid it during pregnancy
•
Parsley, while safe in food level amounts, should be avoided in large quantities such as broths as it may cause spontaneous loss of pregnancy. Especially if the person happens to be taking larger doses of vitamin C which can also endanger an early pregnancy
•
These are just a handful of herbs that may disrupt hormones, cause uterine contractions, & that should be avoided by anyone wanting to keep a pregnancy viable
•
Keep learning about these & other herbs you may have access to that cause these situations
•
I mean how else will we avoid accidental miscarriages?
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You're smart enough to do this too��

[Jibartik]

Democrats be like “if you get rid of abortion it’ll be dangerous”, then they get online and they post like a bunch of poisons to take if you want to homebrew abortion.

[Elizondo]

MUHBORTIONS!

BURN IT ALL DOWN

[loramin]

The constitution protects my body from the government, and fuck anyone (including six supreme court justices) who say otherwise.

[red_demonman]

Babykillers has become ENRAGED.

[Elizondo]

The constitution protects my body from the government, and fuck anyone (including six supreme court justices) who say otherwise.

Dem vax mandates tho

[starkind]

I just want a good night's rest for once.

[Reiwa]

The constitution protects my body from the government, and fuck anyone (including six supreme court justices) who say otherwise.

What if there's a baby American body inside u? 🙏

[loramin]

What if there's a baby American body inside u? ��

That sounds painful for both me and the baby! But if I somehow had a living baby implanted inside me and dependent on me for life, then yeah the government might have a say, since it has rights too.

But if I had a tiny cluster of cells that could one day become a baby ... but at the moment a gnat is closer to a baby than it? Hell no, because as the only human, I'm the only one with rights in the equation.

[Jibartik]

What if the baby has no face. Its just smooth skin and it also had no genitalia, but otherwise was normal.

[Jibartik]

Wait no this one is better.

What if the baby was totally normal... but you knew it was hilter.

[starkind]

Wait no this one is better.

What if the baby was totally normal... but you knew it was hilter.

That ones Ez. Kid spends it's life in solitary confinement. Or a monastery. Give him an acre. Or two and don't let him off. Also. Everyone knows Goebels or whoever was the real power. Just about anyone could have been Hitler. He had a lot of help.

I bet if Hitler was addicted to everquest history woulda played out differently too.

[Reiwa]

That sounds painful for both me and the baby! But if I somehow had a living baby implanted inside me and dependent on me for life, then yeah the government might have a say, since it has rights too.

But if I had a tiny cluster of cells that could one day become a baby ... but at the moment a gnat is closer to a baby than it? Hell no, because as the only human, I'm the only one with rights in the equation.

https://i.imgflip.com/6ktiwp.jpg

[Jibartik]

So does joe!

mKjCRrSm9lA

[Homesteaded]

Cluster of cells argument from Lora. He thinks he’s so smart.

[Jibartik]

*Go to the doctor.

So what is it doc?

A cluster of cells.

WILL IT TURN INTO AN ALIGATOR???

No, that cluster of cells is a unique genetic code that gets created at fertilization, and it stays the same, until the body of your child dies.

-end scene

[loramin]

Cluster of cells argument from Lora. He thinks he’s so smart.

I like to live in reality when not playing EQ: I highly recommend it!

[Jibartik]

A reality that maybe an alligator might come out of your wife after pregnancy?

[loramin]

A reality that maybe an alligator might come out of your wife after pregnancy?

The reality that if "X will become a Y someday", it means that X isn't a Y now.

A fetus is not a baby: that's reality, and that's why we have different words to distinguish different things.

[Jibartik]

A fetus is not a baby. The same way you are not an old man now.

It is a the sequence of nucleotides in deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) and ribonucleic acid (RNA) that determines the identy, personality, look, lifespan, height, foot size, fingernail growth rate, and everything else that makes you, you.

That code does not change from fertilizations, to a cluster of cells, a baby, you, an old man, until you are a dead body, at which point it rapidly decays.

[Reiwa]

The reality that if "X will become a Y someday", it means that X isn't a Y now.

A fetus is not a baby: that's reality, and that's why we have different words to distinguish different things.

Is a veal a cow?

[Rethalis]

A fetus is not a baby: that's reality, and that's why we have different words to distinguish different things.



Fetus = unborn offspring of mammals
Unborn offspring = unborn baby
Baby = baby
Therefore
abortion = murder

[Rethalis]

Is a veal a cow?

:D

[Jibartik]

What species is a teenager?

[Elizondo]

Loramin only smart enough to link to the wiki

He should stay in that lane

[Reiwa]

What species is a teenager?

The calf is slaughtered in the abortoire. (https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c4f6065f-73f7-4c19-b00c-ca06e641f596)

[Jibartik]

The calf is slaughtered in the abortoire. (https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c4f6065f-73f7-4c19-b00c-ca06e641f596)

This is what abortion educational films will be like now.

UhoHwQ0cwIQ

[Reiwa]

This is what abortion educational films will be like now.

UhoHwQ0cwIQ

wmGCqL0-wwE

[Jibartik]

Another prediction, nailed and sealed in time.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Loramin still doesn't understand that he too is just a clump of cells. All multicellular organisms are.

[MrSparkle001]

The reality that if "X will become a Y someday", it means that X isn't a Y now.

A fetus is not a baby: that's reality, and that's why we have different words to distinguish different things.

But it is exactly what a human is supposed to be at that stage of life.

And literally the day before birth it's still not a baby? It's still just that dehumanizing word "fetus"? What if it's a premature birth? It's suddenly a baby after that but wasn't before?

Convenient that they keep using that word "fetus" that keeps the unborn from being thought of as human beings.

A fetus is a baby. You can use dehumanizing terms all you want but it doesn't change that fact, and it is downright evil to continue to do so.

Is a veal a cow?

and I don't eat veal :) Too young and too inhumane. Not that that's your point lol.

[loramin]

Loramin still doesn't understand that he too is just a clump of cells. All multicellular organisms are.

So is a gnat, but we don't protect their right to life. Again, an early stage fetus is less similar to a human being than a gnat: it has less biomass, is less conscious, and it has less capacity to move, act, preserve its own life, reproduce, etc,

[Jibartik]

Is the same logic that a racist uses to dehumanize Black people you just think that like because they don’t look exactly like you that they’re not human.

A human being is the genetic ID if a human has no arms and no legs and his face gets run over by a lawnmower that doesn’t make him not human.

[loramin]

A fetus is a baby.

A shack is a skyscraper. A small-sized T-Shirt is an XXL T-shirt. A mom and pop grocery store is Costco.

You can say two different hings are the same until you're blue in the face ... they're still different things in reality ... which is the whole reason why we have different words for them.

[loramin]

Is the same logic that a racist uses to dehumanize Black people you just think that like because they don’t look exactly like you that they’re not human.

A human being is the genetic ID if a human has no arms and no legs and his face gets run over by a lawnmower that doesn’t make him not human.

No, my logic is based on scientific research; the "logic" of racism is based on ignoring scientific research;

[Elizondo]

A shack is a skyscraper. A small-sized T-Shirt is an XXL T-shirt. A mom and pop grocery store is Costco.

You can say two different hings are the same until you're blue in the face ... they're still different things in reality ... which is the whole reason why we have different words for them.

18113

[Jibartik]

No, my logic is based on scientific research; the "logic" of racism is based on ignoring scientific research;

What science says that a human and a gnat are more the same than the genetic ID that defines your hair color, eye color, personality, skin color on and on, everything that makes you you except for your nurture isnt?

Explain to me where your specious reasoning is science and my literal science is incorrect.

Please this is the first time I have gotten you to reply to the genetic code reply I say to you EVERY TIME you say a human and a gnat are the same species.

You are ANTHRAPAMORPHISING you are not using science.

[Reiwa]

Is the same logic that a racist uses to dehumanize Black people you just think that like because they don’t look exactly like you that they’re not human.

A human being is the genetic ID if a human has no arms and no legs and his face gets run over by a lawnmower that doesn’t make him not human.

Complexity vs humanity I think.

[Elizondo]

18116
18117

[Jibartik]

Loramin, another way to look at what you are saying about a clump of cells is that perspective is very much like the earth is flat.

I want to believe the earth is flat really badly!

But I cant prove why there is no model that exists where a sun can shine light onto a flat surface the way the sun shines light onto a round earth.

But because you cant really "see taht with your own eyes" that the clump of cells, is identical to you now in terms of your UNIQUENESS and your DNA, you are sure that the clump of cells is indeed just a flat surface like you are sure it is because of what you can "see"

You're not using science, you're using your belief system.

This is just like having a conversational bout religion. You believe that a clump of cells is a fetus, so you ignore any science that disagrees with that statement.

Its fair for you to say that YOU think that a human is not human until 15 weeks, that is your opinion.

But it is NOT science. It's a religious belief, like the catholic age of reason bullshit.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

No, my logic is based on scientific research; the "logic" of racism is based on ignoring scientific research;

Comparing a fertilized human egg to a gnat is not science or logic. One is a human, one is not. The comparison stops at the reductionist idea that both gnats and humans are "clumps of cells". A gnat will never be a human, and a fertilized human egg will never be a gnat.

[Jibartik]

Your unique personality and phisical apparence are created at fertilization, THAT IS ESTABLSIHED SCIENCE.

Anything else is flat earth, racism, or simple old religion.

Genetic information is passed from generation to generation through inherited units of chemical information (in most cases, genes). Organisms produce other similar organisms through sexual reproduction, which allows the line of genetic material to be maintained and generations to be linked.

A genetic ID is a stable ID for that particular organism.

It is the DNA that makes you, you. It does not change, it does not grow, it does not get downloaded into a soul from a satalte in space.

It is the genetic information of both parents, linked together, to create YOU.

Not just a clump of cells.

[Reiwa]

Complexity vs humanity I think.

Like it's illegal to eat whales, which is bullshit by the way, but not for the same reason as eating humans, which is a good restriction.

[Jibartik]

Im fine if loramin would admit that he is basing his decision of his opinion and not some scientific fact.

I think its fine for america to decide that its their opinion that constitutional life begins at week 15.

But to go around saying "i do this, because its science", when it clearly is not, is really the thing I have a problem with.

I just hate ignorance, I dont care about baby killing.

[robayon]

DNA does change after birth and external forces can change it

Nature and nurture

Living ships of Theseus

[Jibartik]

DNA does change after birth and external forces can change it

You cannot change the genetic ID of your child with nurture, that is mixing up the same type of dna that anti vaxers mixup with rna

Once again, religion's "i feels" get in the way. "I feel" like changing my rna is changing my DNA and turning me into a space alien reptoid, but i KNOW that is not true.

What makes this woman wrong, and loramin right? Or is a baby not a human at 9 months either?

https://i.imgur.com/QhP2kS9.png

[Reiwa]

DNA does change after birth and external forces can change it

Nature and nurture

Living ships of Theseus

Witty Lamarck.

[robayon]

Witty Lamarck.I was mainly referring to radiation and age (partly due to exposure to radiation over time)

But now I have a new dead person to read about, yay

[Jibartik]

I want to be clear that the idea that a gnat and a human are the same, is very much like how anti vaxers are like, "there was a study where they tested the DNA and it changed it!"

This 60 year old study where they used gnats to determine genetic behavior during fertilization has been conflated the same way to kids on reddit thinking that a fetus is a bug:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK559912/

Its classic ignorance, misinformation, and its spreads the same way online through liberal conversations the same way it did in church, through their conversations.

The study determined that genetic ID is created at fertilization, for sure.

Not that babies are like gnats.

[Jibartik]

Separated at birth: The extraordinary true story of estranged identical twins who lived the same life.

https://i.imgur.com/YbzQoMe.png

If their childhoods were uncannily similar, though, then their early adulthoods were truly remarkable. Both Jims had married twice. The first time, they married women named Linda. When this didn't work out and they divorced, they met (and went on to marry) women named Betty.

Both had beloved childhood dogs named Toy, and as schoolchildren, both had a proclivity for math and woodworking but were no great shakes at spelling. If their childhoods were uncannily similar, though, then their early adulthoods were truly remarkable.

Twin Hearts, Twin Minds

STOP LISTENIGN TO THE RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD

[Reiwa]

I was mainly referring to radiation and age (partly due to exposure to radiation over time)

But now I have a new dead person to read about, yay

Incels use the concept to complain about romantically generous women.

I don't think it's correct.

[Jibartik]

whoah I just realized that the left hates incels because they want to lower the worlds population, and if humiliating people into virginity works, then why fight it lol

[Homesteaded]

Gnats have 6 legs.

[MrSparkle001]

18116
18117

This is basically a checkmate vs all the ridiculous arguments they've been spewing these past two years.

They're all such fucking hypocrites.

[Elizondo]

18118

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/abortion-ethics-gestation-reproduction/

Furthermore, if the labor of pregnancy is productive of life, then interrupting that labor is—logically speaking—productive of death. Rather than shy away from this, I believe we should embrace it as part of an effort to give gestating the respect it deserves.

[robayon]

This is basically a checkmate vs all the ridiculous arguments they've been spewing these past two years.

They're all such fucking hypocrites.who is they

[robayon]

Incels use the concept to complain about romantically generous women.

I don't think it's correct.I wouldn't know I am devastatingly handsome

[Homesteaded]

Forced Life. We're so fucked.

[robayon]

Forced Life. We're so fucked.Leave it to reactionary christofascists to get everything they want and still complain

[loramin]

Im fine if loramin would admit that he is basing his decision of his opinion and not some scientific fact.

I think its fine for america to decide that its their opinion that constitutional life begins at week 15.

But to go around saying "i do this, because its science", when it clearly is not, is really the thing I have a problem with.

Man, I really touched a nerve with that gnat thing. Hard to argue with science isn't it?

And before you repeat that I'm just spouting my opinion as "science" ... how much thinking can a fetus do, how much thinking can a gnat do, how much thinking can a human do?

How much biomass does the fetus have, how much does the gnat have, ... how many cells ... how much controlled manipulation of body parts ... how much ... you get the idea.

Facts: they're a bitch when you're whole argument rests on making up shit that doesn't exist in a book from 2000+ years ago.

[loramin]

Forced Life. We're so fucked.

Forced unloved life. Very few things are crueler than bringing an unloved, unwanted child into the world ... but it's a great thing to do if you want more criminals in your society (and yes, that last fact has also been proven by science!)

[Jibartik]

Do you like spreading missinformation for your religion? Or do you think missinformation is a good thign to just spew all over the internet?

You are not talking about science at all, and your only counter argument is "its science!" like you think science is somethig you call science, because of PORTAL and Bill Nye.

IK really dont like that you are being this condescending about your "opinion" you are wrong dude, stop acting like your religion is right.

I hate ignorant people that vote for bush because they are condiscending about their "they have nukes!" the same way I hat ethe left when they are condiscending about their "its science you just dont get it!"

while I litaerally am giving you multple examples of how science proves you dead wrong.

I have more biomass in my dick than you have in your head. Does that make you a monkey!?

[Jibartik]

Forced unloved life.

https://i.imgur.com/1qZ6zXC.png

[loramin]

You are not talking about science at all, and your only counter argument is "its science!" like you think science is somethig you call science, because of PORTAL and Bill Nye.


I have no idea what you're even talking about with this, or that earlier thing about gnats. My opinions on gnats being closer to humans than fetuses (because they are actually alive and fetuses aren't) comes from my high school biology class; clearly you slept through your's :p

[Horza]

Do you like spreading missinformation for your religion? Or do you think missinformation is a good thign to just spew all over the internet?

You are not talking about science at all, and your only counter argument is "its science!" like you think science is somethig you call science, because of PORTAL and Bill Nye.

IK really dont like that you are being this condescending about your "opinion" you are wrong dude, stop acting like your religion is right.

I hate ignorant people that vote for bush because they are condiscending about their "they have nukes!" the same way I hat ethe left when they are condiscending about their "its science you just dont get it!"

while I litaerally am giving you multple examples of how science proves you dead wrong.

I have more biomass in my dick than you have in your head. Does that make you a monkey!?

All this schizophrenic gibberish just because your favorite pedophile lost an election.

[Reiwa]

And before you repeat that I'm just spouting my opinion as "science" ... how much thinking can a fetus do, how much thinking can a gnat do, how much thinking can a human do?

Murder the unintelligent?

[Rethalis]

Lora thinks:

fetus' are dead until they pass through a birth canal or c section

The human clump of cells looks more like a gnat so therefore not human

Suffering exists in the world so therefore its better to kill the baby.

[loramin]

Murder the unintelligent?

Yes because literally "does not have a brain" is the equivalent of "[has an] unintelligent [brain]" :rolleyes:

The fact that you equate the two clearly different things (as different as a fetus and a baby) speaks so much about your intelligence.

[Reiwa]

Yes because

k :rolleyes:

[Horza]

Lora thinks:

fetus' are dead until they pass through a birth canal or c section

The human clump of cells looks more like a gnat so therefore not human

Suffering exists in the world so therefore its better to kill the baby.

Loramin thinks fetuses are undead, so first you have to find the phylactery.

[Jibartik]

Yes because literally "does not have a brain" is the equivalent of "[has an] unintelligent [brain]" :rolleyes:

The fact that you equate the two clearly different things (as different as a fetus and a baby) speaks so much about your intelligence.

You're using specious reasoning, do you know what that is?

Anthropomorphizing, do you know what that means?

The comparisons you are making are not science.

[loramin]

You're using specious reasoning, do you know what that is?

Anthropomorphizing, do you know what that means?

The comparisons you are making are not science.

You can only anthropomorphize something that isn't human ... so that means we both agree fetuses aren't humans? (yet ... they will be someday, just like a chicken will become an egg ... but chickens != eggs)

[strongNpretty]

You can only anthropomorphize something that isn't human ... so that means we both agree fetuses aren't humans? (yet ... they will be someday, just like a chicken will become an egg ... but chickens != eggs)

https://i.imgur.com/HPYz1z9.jpg

[Reiwa]

lor - So how badly do I need to damage my brain for it to be ok under the law for a woman to kill me?

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[Jibartik]

You can only anthropomorphize something that isn't human ... so that means we both agree fetuses aren't humans? (yet ... they will be someday, just like a chicken will become an egg ... but chickens != eggs)

You are literally saying a human is not a human until you can use anthropomorphism to prove it is or not.

"can you say it looks more like a human than a gnat? no? then its not human" that is your entire (not science based) argument right now.

Same as the chicken argument, The chicken does not get nurtured into a chicken.

It is one at fertilization, it just takes time for DNA to grow god dammit.

If you stomp on a chicken egg, will a chicken maybe grow? Because its just the same shit, so what difference does it make if its stomped on or not???

[loramin]

lor - So how badly do I need to damage my brain for it to be ok under the law for a woman to kill me?

As a matter of fact, we do have laws that let your close family members (male or female) terminate your life if you are brain dead. I'm sure the exact details vary by state, so consult them on how much you need to damage your brain ;)

You are literally saying a human is not a human until you can use anthropomorphism to prove it is or not.

"can you say it looks more like a human than a gnat? no? then its not human" that is your entire (not science based) argument right now.

Same as the chicken argument, The chicken does not get nurtured into a chicken.

It is one at fertilization, it just takes time for DNA to grow god dammit.

If you stomp on a chicken egg, will a chicken maybe grow? Because its just the same shit, so what difference does it make if its stomped on or not???

I literally think an egg is not a chicken. It's that simple ... but it is fun watching y'all tie yourself in knots trying to argue that an egg is a chicken.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I have no idea what you're even talking about with this, or that earlier thing about gnats. My opinions on gnats being closer to humans than fetuses (because they are actually alive and fetuses aren't) comes from my high school biology class; clearly you slept through your's :p

Whomever taught your biology class doesn't know what they are talking about then:)

Gnats are significantly different from human beings at all stages of development. That is scientific fact.

[Reiwa]

As a matter of fact, we do have laws that let your close family members (male or female) terminate your life if you are brain dead. I'm sure the exact details vary by state, so consult them on how much you need to damage your brain ;)


What if my haploid number is divergent?

e: might should say diploid, not sure.

[loramin]

Whomever taught your biology class doesn't know what they are talking about then:)

Gnats are significantly different from human beings at all stages of development. That is scientific fact.

You know, you are absolutely right! It's almost as if ... say it with me now ... an egg is not a chicken! And a fetus is not a human being!

Meanwhile, while all of you are getting your nuts off convincing yourself egg=chicken, real life human beings, actual people with brains and lives and loved ones, will die because of this ruling.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You know, you are absolutely right! It's almost as if ... say it with me now ... an egg is not a chicken! And a fetus is not a human being!

Meanwhile, while all of you are getting your nuts off convincing yourself egg=chicken, real life human beings, actual people with brains and lives and loved ones, will die because of this ruling.

A chicken egg is a potential chicken, whereas a gnat is not a potential chicken. That is biology 101, which your teacher was obviously not qualified to teach.

[loramin]

A chicken egg is a potential chicken, whereas a gnat is not a potential chicken. That is biology 101, which your teacher was obviously not qualified to teach.

Look, since you have such a hard time with this chicken/egg, baby/fetus thing, take all your arguments about "fetus" and replace them with "permanently brain-dead human".

Which is closer to a normal human being? The brain-dead person can't move: the gnat and the human can. The gnat can't "think" like the human ... but it comes a lot closer to thinking than the thought-less body lying on a slab. And so on ... in all cases, the same is true for a fetus.

But again, this isn't some academic debate with no connection to the real world: real world women will die because abortion is prohibited. And again, that's a fact, backed up by both science and history.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Look, take all your arguments about "fetus" and replace them with "permanently brain-dead human".

Which is closer to a normal human being? The brain-dead person can't move: the gnat and the human can. The gnat can't "think" like the human ... but it comes a lot closer to thinking than the thought-less body lying on a slab.

But again, this isn't some academic debate with no connection to the real world: real world women will die because abortion is prohibited. And again, that's a fact, backed up by both science and history.

A brain-dead human is indeed more of a human than a gnat. That is biological fact. Please do not invoke science when you claim: "Things that move are more human than a brain-dead human".

[Reiwa]

But again, this isn't some academic debate with no connection to the real world: real world women will die because abortion is prohibited. And again, that's a fact, backed up by both science and history.

Was anyone dying prior to the ruling?

[Reiwa]

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Dobbs v Jackson a 15 week restriction?

[Reiwa]

Has a chicken egg, as in the food and sometimes projectile, undergone meiosis?

[Nocht]

Liberal mental illness on full display right now.

[red_demonman]

Man, I really touched a nerve with that gnat thing. Hard to argue with science isn't it?

And before you repeat that I'm just spouting my opinion as "science" ... how much thinking can a fetus do, how much thinking can a gnat do, how much thinking can a human do?


So your value of human life is based on ability of thought, wow we've never heard that stupid argument before.


How much biomass does the fetus have, how much does the gnat have, ... how many cells ... how much controlled manipulation of body parts ... how much ... you get the idea.


If you say more words you don't get an A.


Facts: they're a bitch when you're whole argument rests on making up shit that doesn't exist in a book from 2000+ years ago.

Strange, no one was mentioning these books, why did you bring it up?

[Jibartik]

Loramin you are completely anti science.

Thank you for admitting that it’s because you care about the safety of woman and not some insane religious belief that because a guy is in a coma he’s not human anymore.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Loramin you are completely anti science.

Agreed. He believes the ability to move makes a gnat more of a human being than an actual adult human being who is brain dead. For all of his complaints about 2000+ year old pseudo-science, he is believing in some hard core pseudo-science. "I move, therefore I am human."

[Jibartik]

I’m fine with abortion for the grater good but not ok with abortion because religious science about human entities.

For the greater good to euthanize orphans under 7 because of trauma? Then that’s fine.

But saying it’s because they become conscious at the age of reason (catholic religion age 7) and that makes euthanasia until then ok, then no.

[Horza]

I wonder why so much of the community here is disproportionately anti-abortion, considering like seventy percent of the country opposes red state blanket bans (it's because you freaks scared off all the women and people who won't tolerate constant racist dog whistles).

[Elizondo]

I wonder why so much of the community here is disproportionately anti-abortion, considering like seventy percent of the country opposes red state blanket bans (it's because you freaks scared off all the women and people who won't tolerate constant racist dog whistles).

How many weeks before it shouldn't be allowed

[loramin]

I wonder why so much of the community here is disproportionately anti-abortion, considering like seventy percent of the country opposes red state blanket bans (it's because you freaks scared off all the women and people who won't tolerate constant racist dog whistles).

This. It's like trying to stay sane in a madhouse in here.

[robayon]

This. It's like trying to stay sane in a madhouse in here.It's an old game and gamer communities always bring out the dregs of society. They try very hard to represent their bad opinions as the majority. They're deeply unpopular and they know it.

[Jibartik]

guys, loramin is a full blown science denier in this thread and you say its the communities fault?

Sorry you live in a society where for once the community was pro science but the left decided to hardline against it.

[Reiwa]

This. It's like trying to stay sane in a madhouse in here.

I think we're all trying our best.

The Magnificence of Dobbs (https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2022/06/83022/)

Dobbs may be the most important, magnificent, rightly decided Supreme Court case of all time. It is restorative of constitutional principle. It upholds the values of representative, democratic self-government, and the rule of law, at the same time that it supports the protection of fundamental human rights. It is literally a matter of life and death. It is potentially transformative of American society, for the better. It is a rare act of judicial courage and principle. In every way, Dobbs is a truly great decision.

First and foremost, Dobbs concludes, rightly, that the U.S. Constitution contains no constitutional right to abortion. There is no constitutional freedom to kill living human beings by abortion. This is huge. It is no exaggeration to say that this is the greatest victory for human rights in the Supreme Court’s history.

Second, Dobbs is a triumph for restoring faithful constitutionalism. This is significant in its own right and would be in any context. Roe and Casey were perhaps the most emblematic, lawless anti-constitutional decisions of our era—perhaps of any era.

Third, Dobbs is a triumph of judicial courage and principle. The political pressure, even the legal pressure, to cave to certain segments of public opinion and defer to erroneous precedent, can be enormous. (The 5–4 majority in Casey succumbed to such pressure, cravenly.)

Fourth, Dobbs is, potentially, a positive, transformative moment for American society. Just as Brown propelled the civil rights movement, Dobbs lays the legal groundwork for social and moral change. And that is what ultimately will be needed to protect human life.

[Rethalis]

the science clearly promotes abortion as good (https://nypost.com/2021/01/22/fauci-says-us-will-drop-anti-abortion-rule-for-foreign-aid/)

[robayon]

guys, loramin is a full blown science denier in this thread and you say its the communities fault?

Sorry you live in a society where for once the community was pro science but the left decided to hardline against it.These battle lines are meaningless

Loramin has engaged in a meaningless debate in the first place, I will fully acknowledge that a clump of cells can become a human but I support a woman's right to make the choice to terminate it anyways

We are mostly Americans, we are all looking the other way on the death of innocents in one sense or another

[Reiwa]

I will fully acknowledge that a clump of cells can become a human but I support a woman's right to make the choice to terminate it anyways

That's a pretty popular idea, apparently.

[robayon]

That's a pretty popular idea, apparently.We all make choices and we all dislike having choices taken from us, I believe that is human nature

The only abortions this outlaws are the safe ones, if they truly cared about this on a moral level they'll definitely try to prevent it at the federal level, so the whole "we're just leaving it up to the states" shit is obviously bullshit to just get us to waste efforts

Want less dead babies? Outlaw military recruiters in schools

[Reiwa]

The only abortions this outlaws are the safe ones

All 629,898 in 2019?

So safety, much juris, wow

https://i.imgur.com/53kcrY3.jpg

[robayon]

All 629,898 in 2019?

So safety, much juris, wow

https://i.imgur.com/53kcrY3.jpgGood thing we can keep track of the numbers so readily, wonder if the fact that they'll be illegal in more than half the states will change that number

[Jibartik]

These battle lines are meaningless

Loramin has engaged in a meaningless debate in the first place, I will fully acknowledge that a clump of cells can become a human but I support a woman's right to make the choice to terminate it anyways

We are mostly Americans, we are all looking the other way on the death of innocents in one sense or another

Yeah thats all I ask.

Im fine with friggen Monroe boxes I dont care what we do, but no religious establishment mumbo jumbo about when a human becomes a human.

[Reiwa]

Good thing we can keep track of the numbers so readily, wonder if the fact that they'll be illegal in more than half the states will change that number

Maybe it won't go down much with Kavanaugh(and therefore Roberts') interstate opinion.

Also, source?

https://i.imgur.com/WDFBUwJ.jpg

[Horza]

It's an old game and gamer communities always bring out the dregs of society. They try very hard to represent their bad opinions as the majority. They're deeply unpopular and they know it.

Everquest always seemed to attract a disproportionately fundie audience, maybe it's the absence of traditional demons and devils in the lore.

[Kaveh]

All 629,898 in 2019?

So safety, much juris, wow

https://i.imgur.com/53kcrY3.jpg

Don’t you smoke cigarettes? That’s a bad choice that I’d like outlawed, since we’re banning shit we don’t like

Just saying

[Reiwa]

Don’t you smoke cigarettes? That’s a bad choice that I’d like outlawed, since we’re banning shit we don’t like

Just saying

Dobbs is not a federal ban. You could probably try that in your state, I don't know if it would fly.

Too many anarchists up here to get away with it locally.

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/8NbbaEy.png

[DeathsSilkyMist]

This. It's like trying to stay sane in a madhouse in here.

Says the guy who thinks a gnat is more similar to a human being than an actual adult human being:p A brain dead adult human is more human than a gnat. That is biology 101, and scientific fact.

[Jibartik]

I wish we could all admit that we're all members of the same madhouse.

I'm this guy.

https://i.imgur.com/wFnUx0V.jpg

This is loramin :o

https://i.imgur.com/KRzj3yv.png

horza

https://i.imgur.com/jB06kEW.png

[Homesteaded]

Abortions by in large are done for convenience.

“Can’t afford”

“I’m not ready”

Grow up and face your actions. Your parents should of taught you how life works. Life isn’t a circus, get serious and get your head in the game.

[Jibartik]

I do it for privacy.

[starkind]

what if u were already aborted but u are just riding around in the back of ur moms mind as she lives out the rest of her crazy life except u dont get the eyes just the feels and memories and u make all the shit up as u go like some kind of weird alterated state sim

[starkind]

Abortions by in large are done for convenience.

“Can’t afford”

“I’m not ready”

Grow up and face your actions. Your parents should of taught you how life works. Life isn’t a circus, get serious and get your head in the game.

i dont mind ppl eating the consequences for their actions we don't live in that society tho

we live in the one where everyone else eatss the consequences of their actions and continues to enable them

the ultimate logical conclusion and endp oint of all this is a lot ppl need to die and natural selection needs to happen much more harshly and less attatched to the state

i'm not saying it's cool or '"RiGiHgTHth" or anything just that it sux and thats how it do be sir and or m'am

[Reiwa]

what if u were already aborted but u are just riding around in the back of ur moms mind as she lives out the rest of her crazy life except u dont get the eyes just the feels and memories and u make all the shit up as u go like some kind of weird alterated state sim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_John_Malkovich

[starkind]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_John_Malkovich

ya but u can't do anything ur entire world is a sim

and they still have full autonomy

ur just along for the ride simming data in a little closed off vm where u can't even really influence their feelings maybe they feel sorta sad sometimes

[Jibartik]

Imagine being skinned alive by a serial killer infront of your family then you wake up in the DMT afterlife and are like

WHOAH LOL WHOAH THAT SHIT WAS INCREIDBLE!!!!!!!!! ANYTHING GOES BABY ANYTHING GOES IN THERE !!!!!!!!

[Reiwa]

ya but u can't do anything ur entire world is a sim

and they still have full autonomy

ur just along for the ride simming data in a little closed off vm where u can't even really influence their feelings maybe they feel sorta sad sometimes

Normally I'm in favor of pills for divergent systems, but the pro-Roe crowd certainly need something else for their endometrial psychosis.

[Jibartik]

You try to dive into the DMT pod Earth game and get imidiatly booted back out

ABORTED

"FUCK! that was my last quarter!"

[MrSparkle001]

I do it for privacy.

Constitutional lol.

[robayon]

Abortions by in large are done for convenience.

“Can’t afford”

“I’m not ready”

Grow up and face your actions. Your parents should of taught you how life works. Life isn’t a circus, get serious and get your head in the game.Take your own advice, hypocrite

[Jibartik]

I saw a facebook meme that was like

Raise your hand if you want no abortions!

now raise your hand if you want to take care of babies of unfit parents!

and im like

wow thats sad yea we need abortion

then i was ilke wait this is a cartoon

if your fit enough to think "I should go get an abortion" then you are fit enough to be a mother!

the end.

[Reiwa]

I saw a facebook meme that was like



and im like

wow thats sad yea we need abortion

then i was ilke wait this is a cartoon

if your fit enough to think "I should go get an abortion" then you are fit enough to be a mother!

the end.

There is an adoption shortage, that's true. (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/10/adopt-baby-cost-process-hard/620258/)

[Jibartik]

Articles like that that require $ to read them are fake like a documentary about aliens.

Sure it sounds convincing. But that's the point.

[Reiwa]

Articles like that that require $ to read them are fake like a documentary about aliens.

Sure it sounds convincing. But that's the point.

Lets me read it fine, don't even have to block scripts.

[Jibartik]

Lets me read it fine, don't even have to block scripts.

Im reading this, but do you think there might be a correlation between this and the rise in abortion?

Since the mid-1970s—the end of the so-called baby-scoop era, when large numbers of unmarried women placed their children for adoption—the percentage of never-married women who relinquish their infants has declined from nearly 9 percent to less than 1 percent.

[Jibartik]

I got distracted by this but ill go back to my homework of moving my goalposts around this atlantic propaganda now reiwa!

aDLh-UBVcgg

[Reiwa]

I got distracted by this but ill go back to my homework of moving my goalposts around this atlantic propaganda now reiwa!

aDLh-UBVcgg

Let me know what it says. I'm gonna eat the candy instead of reading the article.

[MrSparkle001]

https://i.imgur.com/6FqcWjc.jpg

[Jibartik]

lol

[Jibartik]

Let me know what it says. I'm gonna eat the candy instead of reading the article.

Im American aren't I.

Besides, my opinion still stands, and im expanding it: all news that isn't "breaking news!" is an alien documentary designed to make you think WOW NEWS is all real!

To many people try to over educate themselves with the basics of something.

Like the news says "guy drives car through protest hitting 9 protestors!"

but it doesnt say they were going 1 mph trying to drive down a road while their car is being whaled on by "protestors"

The stats go up, everyone on both sides have evidence that it's true.

Repeat.

[unsunghero]

It’s probably been said already, but men wanting to control women’s bodies is no longer a valid argument now that men can get pregnant

Let’s put these transphobic statements in the grave where they belong. It’s now men wanting to control everyone’s bodies. I personally am fine with men making it more difficult for me to get an abortion, in terms of how this affects me personally

[Reiwa]

I personally am fine with men making it more difficult for me to get an abortion, in terms of how this affects me personally

Only if you rawdog it does it affect you. Testi-fy or sit down, sir.

[unsunghero]

Only if you rawdog it does it affect you. Testi-fy or sit down, sir.

No meaning affects me as a man that can get pregnant. Which leads to the question of whether I am a man who identifies as a woman

And the answer is yes, but only for the times when I am voicing my opinion on women’s rights. Afterwards my gender fluidly shifts back to a man

I am stunning, and I am brave

/s

[Reiwa]

No meaning affects me as a man that can get pregnant. Which leads to the question of whether I am a man who identifies as a woman

And the answer is yes, but only for the times when I am voicing my opinion on women’s rights. Afterwards my gender fluidly shifts back to a man

I am stunning, and I am brave

/s

Eh if the bird you're banging gets her hoo-ha all knackered up by your actions you gotta grit your teeth for 9 months and not get laid or look for a new one.

It does affect you, as a man. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=851BqHMCaeM)

[unsunghero]

It does affect you, as a man. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=851BqHMCaeM)

Excuse me, that’s ma’am. And I am a woman

If we were in a publicly funded school, the modifications to title 9 would consider what you just did sexual harassment

But luckily we’re not, and I’ll let it go. I don’t need to /flex my power as a member of the LGBTQIA+ community here

[Reiwa]

Excuse me, that’s ma’am. And I am a woman

If we were in a publicly funded school, the modifications to title 9 would consider what you just did sexual harassment

But luckily we’re not, and I’ll let it go. I don’t need to /flex my power as a member of the LGBTQIA+ community here

Who taught you to be annoying?

Was it your gay lover in Havaii? 🍆🍑

[unsunghero]

Who taught you to be annoying?

Was it your gay lover in Havaii? 🍆🍑

When I revert back to a man at the end of this discussion, I am going to be more receptive to your opinion that your perception of someone else’s gender is up to you and not them

But until then, I find it highly offensive

[Reiwa]

When I revert back to a man at the end of this discussion, I am going to be more receptive to your opinion that your perception of someone else’s gender is up to you and not them

But until then, I find it highly offensive

I'm just asking questions.

[unsunghero]

I'm just asking questions.

I do find the power of being a member of a protected class intoxicating, I will say

Yknow what’s sad is that if I as a stunning woman who can get pregnant decided to compete against women in either weightlifting or track and field, my two forte’s, I still wouldn’t win. Not if we are talking on the collegiate or Olympic level. Not even close. Maybe slightly close for weightlifting

[Reiwa]

I do find the power of being a member of a protected class intoxicating, I will say

Yknow what’s sad is that if I as a stunning woman who can get pregnant decided to compete against women in either weightlifting or track and field, my two forte’s, I still wouldn’t win. Not if we are talking on the collegiate or Olympic level. Not even close. Maybe slightly close for weightlifting

Katie Ledecky would smoke you in swimming across a tiny lake I think.

[unsunghero]

Katie Ledecky would smoke you in swimming across a tiny lake I think.

Probably, I suck at swimming

It would be funny if no one knew me to consistently demand that I am a trans woman, just to hear progressives accuse me of faking it. But they wouldn’t do it right away I bet, out of concern that I might just be really really bad at being passable. Watching them tip toe around feeling me out, not wanting to offend a member of their community would be enjoyable

I gotta say I would have to respect any that absolutely refuse to accuse me of lying or misgender me, despite knowing that I was being completely ironic/sarcastic. Just like I respect any Christian who says they forgive serial killers and rapists and the like. That’s staying true to your ideology. Not I. That’s why I don’t make a good Christian. Not only do I not forgive killers, I’m for eye for an eye, your punishment should be what you did to them inflicted back on you. It would drastically lower crime rates, but sucks when you have the wrong person

[Reiwa]

Probably, I suck at swimming


It's important, isn't it?

The right has been telling me swimming is very, very important for the last year. 🏊🏻*♀️

[unsunghero]

It's important, isn't it?

The right has been telling me swimming is very, very important for the last year. ����*♀️

Yeah as if anyone watches women’s sports. Matters to the women competing and their family and that’s about it

Speaking of athletics, Planet Fitness is a shit gym. The one in Hawaii was constantly crowded, even when I tried to go at midnight. They also only have smith machines, no freestanding squat racks. Smith machines are bad for your back to do squats in. You need to be able to (being educated on correct form first) pick your own position, not have the machine do it for you

Currently I have three different gym memberships until I quit this planet fitness one. Need to remember to do that. Just dreading the “so you want to quit the gym huh” runaround hassle they’re gonna give me

[Homesteaded]

I recently started swimming and it's by far the most enjoyable workout I've ever done. It takes time to get the technique down but damn is it fun.

[Homesteaded]

Take your own advice, hypocrite

Ok...

[Jibartik]

https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917

I’m curious if pro lifers think this is more like an adult human than a gnat? When does AI have a right to life, if a right to life is resembling a human and not our genetic code?

[Mblake1981]

https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917

I’m curious if pro lifers think this is more like an adult human than a gnat? When does AI have a right to life, if a right to life is resembling a human and not our genetic code?

"I can't tell you what a woman is."

Sincerely,
A Dishonest Bad-Faith Person

[Jibartik]

Over discord, Im sure none of us could to be fair.

Does that mean over discord an AI has a right to life?

[Mblake1981]

Over discord, Im sure none of us could to be fair.

Does that mean over discord an AI has a right to life?

Touch grass daily.

[starkind]

most of u dont' even know what a woman is anyway

[Jibartik]

I wouldn't dare assume!

[Mblake1981]

most of u dont' even know what a woman is anyway

Here comes the marxist-transiberians who snipped then became expert psycho-anal-ists.

[Reiwa]

Here comes the marxist-transiberians who snipped then became expert psycho-anal-ists.

she's not spanish

[Mazoku]

Abortion should be legal end of story.

The morality of it shall therein be between the woman and God; OR no one if they don't believe in God. Abortion lowers crime and gets rid of unwanted children. You don't have to enjoy that some people want to get rid of their children before they become aware but that is just it, you can just choose to not be aware of their abortions. Making a big deal about something that isn't happening to you or your body is just folly. Furthermore we have more than enough mouths to feed and people are starving to death. Why don't we focus on fixing the actual problems at hand like: famine, war, pestilence and unjust death? Because it's more fun to /rage over someone else's choices that in the end will likely remove a child that is not going to be raised right and will probably become a criminal. Let us continue to divide humanity and make Earth easier to conquer.

[Mblake1981]

Abortion should be legal end of story.

The morality of it shall therein be between the woman and God; OR no one if they don't believe in God. Abortion lowers crime and gets rid of unwanted children. You don't have to enjoy that some people want to get rid of their children before they become aware but that is just it, you can just choose to not be aware of their abortions. Making a big deal about something that isn't happening to you or your body is just folly. Furthermore we have more than enough mouths to feed and people are starving to death. Why don't we focus on fixing the actual problems at hand like: famine, war, pestilence and unjust death? Because it's more fun to /rage over someone else's choices that in the end will likely remove a child that is not going to be raised right and will probably become a criminal. Let us continue to divide humanity and make Earth easier to conquer.

Speaks of dividing humanity, forgets 60 million are dead. imagine 60 million rapes that no one talks about.

[Reiwa]

Abortion should be legal end of story.

The morality of it shall therein be between the woman and God; OR no one if they don't believe in God. Abortion lowers crime and gets rid of unwanted children. You don't have to enjoy that some people want to get rid of their children before they become aware but that is just it, you can just choose to not be aware of their abortions. Making a big deal about something that isn't happening to you or your body is just folly. Furthermore we have more than enough mouths to feed and people are starving to death. Why don't we focus on fixing the actual problems at hand like: famine, war, pestilence and unjust death? Because it's more fun to /rage over someone else's choices that in the end will likely remove a child that is not going to be raised right and will probably become a criminal. Let us continue to divide humanity and make Earth easier to conquer.

Why is every reprobate on here also a Malthusian? We have plenty of food, this isn't the 50s.

[Mazoku]

Unit 731. Hardly anyone talks about that and how about the Rape of Nanking? Or how about generally most of medieval Europe being a time of disease, rape and death? There are many atrocities that go unspoken of. Let us blanket one statement with another. Rape is a primary reason for abortion to be legal. Campus rape is often covered up by colleges because no one wants to study at an institution with high rape chances. If the real numbers got out about campus rape, the universities would lose money. Additionally if there is plenty of food, then why do people keep starving to death?

[Jibartik]

Rape is a primary reason for abortion to be legal.

easily solved, the state can exicute the death penalty, and could for a fetus as a result of rape and the person who is convicted of doing the raping.

[Reiwa]

Unit 731. Hardly anyone talks about that and how about the Rape of Nanking? Or how about generally most of medieval Europe being a time of disease, rape and death? There are many atrocities that go unspoken of. Let us blanket one statement with another. Rape is a primary reason for abortion to be legal. Campus rape is often covered up by colleges because no one wants to study at an institution with high rape chances. If the real numbers got out about campus rape, the universities would lose money.

Rape isn't the primary cause of pregnancy so it cannot be the primary cause of abortion; sine qua non.

[Mazoku]

You're missing the point. Taking away BODY rights due to one group's morality over another is not okay. Rape is A primary reason. See that letter "A"? Semantics and division!

[Reiwa]

You're missing the point. Taking away BODY rights due to one group's morality over another is not okay. Rape is A primary reason. See that letter "A"? Semantics and division!

Okay, it's not "a" primary cause either. It's a small # of the total. Do you know what primary means dude?

[Mblake1981]

Just a little rape, misdemeanor rape.

Edit: Rape was one of the primary causes for Roe vs. Wade, which she confessed were lies. She took one for her lady-team, then went to the baptismal pool to wash the sin away. 60 million fetuses later, some got the notion there is some rampant rape going on across the USA.

That's like 700+ average football stadiums deep. 750 Pro USA Football stadiums full of rampant rape. That's around 14 Pro Size Stadiums per State full of balls-out raping.

[Mazoku]

I sure do, "dude". Take off your Naruto headband and go sweat and take a shower. Meanwhile Mblake1981 is at least logical and entertaining and isn't picking apart every sentence to find a way to make himself right. My condolences that you enjoy being divided on everything.

[Rethalis]

Abortion should be legal end of story.

The morality of it shall therein be between the woman and God; OR no one if they don't believe in God. Abortion lowers crime and gets rid of unwanted children. You don't have to enjoy that some people want to get rid of their children before they become aware but that is just it, you can just choose to not be aware of their abortions. Making a big deal about something that isn't happening to you or your body is just folly. Furthermore we have more than enough mouths to feed and people are starving to death. Why don't we focus on fixing the actual problems at hand like: famine, war, pestilence and unjust death? Because it's more fun to /rage over someone else's choices that in the end will likely remove a child that is not going to be raised right and will probably become a criminal. Let us continue to divide humanity and make Earth easier to conquer.

hitler thought jews were a parasite too. At least you recognize a fetus is more than a gnat.

[Reiwa]

I sure do, "dude". Take off your Naruto headband and go sweat and take a shower. Meanwhile Mblake1981 is at least logical and entertaining and isn't picking apart every sentence to find a way to make himself right. My condolences that you enjoy being divided on everything.

Pri as in prior or primate or princeps, meaning "first".

And jib put that there for me and I still appreciate it.

[Mazoku]

Which is worse? Forcing someone who in your eyes is a bad person because they want to kill a baby to keep a baby and raise it? Or having them abort the child? Not everyone is deserving of children and of those that have children, some did not want them. (Not all but some, Mister Naruto-Semantics.)

[Elizondo]

Mazoku making a fool out of himself

60 million + abortions and he's trying the "but rape rape" argument to justify all that carnage done for convenience

[Reiwa]

Which is worse? Forcing someone who in your eyes is a bad person because they want to kill a baby to keep a baby and raise it? Or having them abort the child? Not everyone is deserving of children and of those that have children, some did not want them. (Not all but some, Mister Naruto-Semantics.)

You don't think someone who wants to kill a baby is a bad person?

[Mazoku]

I don't think it makes them a good person but their choice is their own. I also don't think it makes someone a good person if they choose to drink and drive. But their choice is in their hands. I cannot fly around and stop every person committing a DUI or an abortion. Additionally, I would rather a bad mother either give the child up for adoption or abort than be forced to keep a kid they didn't want.

[Reiwa]

I don't think it makes them a good person but their choice is their own. I also don't think it makes someone a good person if they choose to drink and drive. But their choice is in their hands. I cannot fly around and stop every person committing a DUI or an abortion. Additionally, I would rather a bad mother either give the child up for adoption or abort than be forced to keep a kid they didn't want.

Okay well drunk driving is already a crime so I mean...

[Jibartik]

raise it?

nobody says u gotta raise it.

[Jibartik]

Will it blend tho

https://i.imgur.com/1L9eDI0.png

[Duik]

Babies have no bones.
That's science right there folks.
Adds new meaning to the term "Blended family".

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/ORJWcYl.png

btw what ever happened to this guy he got quieter.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/ORJWcYl.png

btw what ever happened to this guy he got quieter.

I think he had his say, felt better, realized he wasn't going to change his mind and how much only the crazies rly care so much and it was actually painful and fruitless to interact with some of them.

[GinnasP99]

^newp, youtube threatened his income, so he fell in line. Slaves have masters, way she goes.

[Jibartik]

Live by the pen, die by the sword.

[starkind]

^newp, youtube threatened his income, so he fell in line. Slaves have masters, way she goes.

I like how they just arbitrarily mess with random ppl because they are big corps that are untouchable unless u are like Elon Musk.

[Reiwa]

Born in the US state of Michigan and raised in Quebec, Canada, Steven Crowder really had nothing going for him until he turned twelve. It was at that age that he was awarded the coveted role of voicing the character "The Brain" in the hit children's TV series, Arthur (1996). The role immediately launched him into the realm of "Babe Magnet". (etc)

- IMDb Mini Biography By: StevenCrowder.net (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0189589/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm)

[Vormotus]

Hey guys , fun thread as usual as I camp m 6 30 min repops semi afk.

Since I want to keep this going,, I will repeat what others elsewhere have mentioned:

Though the issue at hand is indeed quite controversial, no one seems to be noticing this is the first step to invalidate other cases

Since I am not from the USA, there was talk in my group about the new pathway being carved to overturn the legality of plan b, then contraception in general, to finally destroy the legality of abortion at the federal level and the banning of gay marriage as well (there were even talks about the infamous school board case being repealed in the future by some of the most extreme members)

So far, as an outsider to your politics and reading some of the tweets from your own representatives and even judges, this seem to me the logical next step.

What you all think?

I really enjoy showing my group members some of these threads :)

[Jibartik]

So far, as an outsider to your politics and reading some of the tweets from your own representatives and even judges, this seem to me the logical next step.

overturn the legality of plan b, then contraception in general, to finally destroy the legality of abortion at the federal level and the banning of gay marriage yada yada

Whatever it takes for the illuminati to knock enough sticks off the lefts shoulder to get them to do their own version of a jan 6th so they can start civil war.

[Reiwa]

Hey guys , fun thread as usual as I camp m 6 30 min repops semi afk.

Since I want to keep this going,, I will repeat what others elsewhere have mentioned:

Though the issue at hand is indeed quite controversial, no one seems to be noticing this is the first step to invalidate other cases

Since I am not from the USA, there was talk in my group about the new pathway being carved to overturn the legality of plan b, then contraception in general, to finally destroy the legality of abortion at the federal level and the banning of gay marriage as well (there were even talks about the infamous school board case being repealed in the future by some of the most extreme members)

So far, as an outsider to your politics and reading some of the tweets from your own representatives and even judges, this seem to me the logical next step.

What you all think?

I really enjoy showing my group members some of these threads :)

It depends on if you believe Alito in the opinion. Decide for yourself, Rico.

“(B)ut have stated unequivocally that ‘[n]othing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”

“We have also explained why that is so: rights regarding contraception and same-sex relationships are inherently different from the right to abortion because the latter (as we have stressed) uniquely involves what Roe and Casey termed ‘potential life.’”

That sounds like Obergefell, Lawrence, and most importantly Griswold aren't going anywhere. As with toothpaste, it's difficult to put the lube back in the tube. :p

[starkind]

which of you non-aborted overgrown fetii shot up chicago today?

[Jibartik]

Crimo was 9 or 10 when he was enrolled in Cahnmann's Nerf football program, along with his younger brother. "Every week, the Crimos were the last kids there, and we'd have to call their parents to pick them up," the former coach said, speaking of Crimo's dad, Bob Crimo, 58, and his mom, Denise Pesina, 48.

"The signs were there for a long time," said a neighbor of Crimo. "There were always police cars at the house. The parents were arguing, fighting all the time."

The mom seemed unstable while the father was well liked in the community, locals told Fox News Digital.

At the time of the shooting, the younger Crimo was living with his father and uncle at a home in nearby Highwood Park. Neighbors said Pesina still lived in the Highland Park home, which had become an eyesore in the upscale suburb.

organized birth control/gun ban = no mass shootings in 20 years.

[Mblake1981]

organized birth control/gun ban = no mass shootings in 20 years.

How long before the violent revolution?

[Jibartik]

How long before the violent revolution?

depends on how long you can keep them scared (cant say its not aliens if we cant even prove the earth is flat!)

https://i.imgur.com/AHkTJTL.png

[Mblake1981]

depends on how long you can keep them scared (cant say its not aliens if we cant even prove the earth is flat!)

Do you personally know or know of anyone who knows aliens?

[starkind]

If I was an evil villain I would breed design and clone a demonic looking evil alien super predatory species then I would fake crash some pods into some cities and say that the super predators came from outer space cuz u are all satanic. Then everyone would join my army and follow my rules working for me.

[Jibartik]

Do you personally know or know of anyone who knows aliens?

probubly all of us but i cant prove it :p

[Mblake1981]

probubly all of us but i cant prove it :p

You could take Neil Degrasse Tyson or George Tsoukalos's job if you really wanted to.

[Jibartik]

im as good of a physicstician as either of them that tsouka is one of the dumbest shitposters I know.

[Mblake1981]

im as good of a physicstician as either of them that tsouka is one of the dumbest shitposters I know.

haha!

[Rainik Stormseeker]

The reality that if "X will become a Y someday", it means that X isn't a Y now.

A fetus is not a baby: that's reality, and that's why we have different words to distinguish different things.

Why does the globe protect leatherback turtle eggs, in some places with armed soldiers like Costa Rica? Are those turtle eggs going to hatch into burritos, or turtles?

Also, do 'clumps of cells' on your arm, in a wound, in a petri dish, r anywhere else, grow hearts and develop heartbeats after 10-25 days after ..uh.. "clumping" together?

https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php/Cardiovascular_System_Development

"clump of cells" is sooo anti-science. if a human embryo is just a "clump of cells" at week 8+, then so are you now at week 2,000+ or however old you are.

[starkind]

7 billion abortions plz

[Jibartik]

Since an old man is a lot like a infant is it fair for us to euthanize the old men because they’re more like a baby than they are a human.

Like babies aren’t human right their babies they turn into humans eventually?

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Just thought I'd add some "color" to this thread.. the abortion industry is massive ; baby body parts are far too valuable to let it go-

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have fun on your deep dive, but make sure you have a barf bag handy!

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheCenterforMedicalProgress

[Jibartik]

Just thought I'd add some "color" to this thread.. the abortion industry is massive ; baby body parts are far too valuable to let it go-

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jCQno6hdU6s

have fun on your deep dive, but make sure you have a barf bag handy!

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheCenterforMedicalProgress

https://i.imgur.com/d7TnFqn.png
https://i.imgur.com/UACwpZ3.png

[Rainik Stormseeker]

https://i.imgur.com/d7TnFqn.png
https://i.imgur.com/UACwpZ3.png

yeah, it's based on the story of Moses raising the bronze serpent in the wilderness (https://loandbeholdbible.com/2018/04/05/moses-raises-the-bronze-serpent-numbers-214-9/) ,

"Then the LORD said to Moses, 'Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.' So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived." -Moses, Numbers 21:8-9

Adopted about 1,000 years later by Hippocrates, symbolizing healing - the serpent on a staff as a symbol of medicine.

And thus, a symbol of healing and power..flaunted by the likes of Nancy Pelosi

... or maybe the CFMP was just using it to troll Satan ;)

[Jibartik]

yeah, it's based on the story of Moses raising the bronze serpent in the wilderness (https://loandbeholdbible.com/2018/04/05/moses-raises-the-bronze-serpent-numbers-214-9/) ,

"Then the LORD said to Moses, 'Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a pole; and it shall be that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, shall live.' So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived." -Moses, Numbers 21:8-9

Adopted about 1,000 years later by Hippocrates, symbolizing healing - the serpent on a staff as a symbol of medicine.

And thus, a symbol of healing and power..flaunted by the likes of Nancy Pelosi

... or maybe the CFMP was just using it to troll Satan ;)

https://i.imgur.com/jUkp6WZ.png

[Reiwa]

All-time offtopic banger in which we learned loramin thinks a human baby is less than a gnat.

Still open somehow. ;)

Man, I really touched a nerve with that gnat thing. Hard to argue with science isn't it?

And before you repeat that I'm just spouting my opinion as "science" ... how much thinking can a fetus do, how much thinking can a gnat do, how much thinking can a human do?

How much biomass does the fetus have, how much does the gnat have, ... how many cells ... how much controlled manipulation of body parts ... how much ... you get the idea.

Facts: they're a bitch when you're whole argument rests on making up shit that doesn't exist in a book from 2000+ years ago.

[magnetaress]

All-time offtopic banger in which we learned loramin thinks a human baby is less than a gnat.

Still open somehow. ;)

Are you sure?
Are you really sure?
Really really sure?
What a brave soul you are!
https://imgur.com/6tMyt9m.jpg

[Ekco]

https://i.imgur.com/zyU1Zxk.png
magnetaress posts remind me of this scene
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[Reiwa]

Man, I really touched a nerve with that gnat thing. Hard to argue with science isn't it?

Copy paste bob's yer auntie.

[magnetaress]

https://i.imgur.com/zyU1Zxk.png
magnetaress posts remind me of this scene
A8x73UW8Hjk

Good scene lol.

[magnetaress]

Is it illegal to kill AI's yet?

Just a classic post. Imo. Thalt shall not murder covers it.