Want to go evil

[Jorvaar]

Hey all, back after a hiatus and I want to roll a new toon on blue. I'm thinking I'd like to try going evil since I almost never do.

I'm debating between a Necromancer, Magician, and Shadow Knight. Most interested in playing a Dark elf, Erudite or Human. Don't much care about min/max, just wanna have some fun. Anybody have a good experience playing one of those combos and can share some insight? Any deity preference or one I should stay away from?

[Spithridates]

I've played almost exclusively evil characters; DEF WAR and TRL SHM. I love Neriak and Dark Elves, I think the Necro/SK guild pagoda is one of the best flavor spots in the old world. I don't love Paineel or Erudite models. I think Human's are fun but using sewers loses its charm for me. HUM and ERU SK's get Flayed Skin armor which is cool and cheapish. Mage doesn't scream evil to me unless you're RPing it like, enslaving the elements or w/e. I vote DE Necro spreading Innoruuk's hateful embrace all over Norrath.

[Spithridates]

Also if you've never rolled Iksar its worth trying. I dunno if they're more evil but they're certainly more hated. Only consideration here is that Ikky SK's can't wear a lot of Plate.

[Loiterius]

Hey Jorvaar,

I just leveled a Mage up to 48 in the last month and wanted to share some of my opinions. Although I won't say they are not fun from 1-40, they fall off pretty hard. The main reason for this is lack of CC, and P99s decisions in shaping the current version of the Mage.

Whether these changes are true to classic I'm not sure, but I can't wrap my head around the design decisions. Your one CC, your pet, is locked behind research for a significant number of levels. This was a minor quibble to me until 44. I have been unable to find, or buy, the materials needed to make that pet.

It caused me to burn out pretty hard reaching 48, especially once the people I "grew up" with out leveled me.

High recommend if you are going pet class to go Necromancer or Enchanter.

[Jorvaar]

I've played almost exclusively evil characters; DEF WAR and TRL SHM. I love Neriak and Dark Elves, I think the Necro/SK guild pagoda is one of the best flavor spots in the old world. I don't love Paineel or Erudite models. I think Human's are fun but using sewers loses its charm for me. HUM and ERU SK's get Flayed Skin armor which is cool and cheapish. Mage doesn't scream evil to me unless you're RPing it like, enslaving the elements or w/e. I vote DE Necro spreading Innoruuk's hateful embrace all over Norrath.

Thanks for the feedback. I like the idea of a DE Necro as well. I hear what you mean about the sewers with Humans too.

[Jorvaar]

Hey Jorvaar,

I just leveled a Mage up to 48 in the last month and wanted to share some of my opinions. Although I won't say they are not fun from 1-40, they fall off pretty hard. The main reason for this is lack of CC, and P99s decisions in shaping the current version of the Mage.

Whether these changes are true to classic I'm not sure, but I can't wrap my head around the design decisions. Your one CC, your pet, is locked behind research for a significant number of levels. This was a minor quibble to me until 44. I have been unable to find, or buy, the materials needed to make that pet.

It caused me to burn out pretty hard reaching 48, especially once the people I "grew up" with out leveled me.

High recommend if you are going pet class to go Necromancer or Enchanter.

Thank you for the insight. I was honestly a bit worried about that with a mage. I was also worried about evil faction messing with quest opportunities because I read it somewhere at some point. I'll stick with Necro in that case. Really appreciate you two weighing in.

[DMN]

"evil/good" is virtually irrelevant in eq. Hope that helps.

[Jibartik]

tell that to the women and children the cult of bertoxx killed when they poisoned the city water supply for no other reason than to kill the women and children.

[Mblake1981]

Hey all, back after a hiatus and I want to roll a new toon on blue. I'm thinking I'd like to try going evil since I almost never do.

I'm debating between a Necromancer, Magician, and Shadow Knight. Most interested in playing a Dark elf, Erudite or Human. Don't much care about min/max, just wanna have some fun. Anybody have a good experience playing one of those combos and can share some insight? Any deity preference or one I should stay away from?

Dark Elf Necromancer is your best choice, min-maxxers will tell you Iksar because of the regen. Lizards are hideous and always will be, they looked completely foreign when Kunark originally released. Indeed, one of the first examples of a MMORPG shitting on its existing players by releasing an OP character/race selection to the noobs.

[Philistine]

Hey all, back after a hiatus and I want to roll a new toon on blue. I'm thinking I'd like to try going evil since I almost never do.

I'm debating between a Necromancer, Magician, and Shadow Knight. Most interested in playing a Dark elf, Erudite or Human. Don't much care about min/max, just wanna have some fun. Anybody have a good experience playing one of those combos and can share some insight? Any deity preference or one I should stay away from?

I don't have any recommendations except to do it! I only played good races on live so I went evil here and it's been fun! You'll learn about vendors you didn't know existed, ways into and out of towns that you didn't know about, new quests etc.

Ultimately it's pretty inconsequential but to me it was a lot of fun to see something new.

[Jorvaar]

tell that to the women and children the cult of bertoxx killed when they poisoned the city water supply for no other reason than to kill the women and children.

Is this legit lorewise? Pretty badass if so.

[Jorvaar]

Dark Elf Necromancer is your best choice, min-maxxers will tell you Iksar because of the regen. Lizards are hideous and always will be, they looked completely foreign when Kunark originally released. Indeed, one of the first examples of a MMORPG shitting on its existing players by releasing an OP character/race selection to the noobs.

Yeah, it happens a fair amount in MMO expansions from what I can tell. I don't mind Iksar but I think the robes look very silly on them. Just my opinion. SK would be better but the SK gear I picked up in anticipation for trying one at some point is plate.

[Jorvaar]

I only played good races on live so I went evil here and it's been fun! You'll learn about vendors you didn't know existed, ways into and out of towns that you didn't know about, new quests etc.

This is mostly what appeals to me. Just a new way to play. I always have played my good/neutral toons from a "good" perspective so playing an "evil" toon a different way will be a new experience.

[Jibartik]

Is this legit lorewise? Pretty badass if so.

Yea its why the sewer has that green fog in it. :D

It's a legit death cult down there. :cool:

[Jimjam]

Evil half elves are best.

[Kakur]

Yeah, it happens a fair amount in MMO expansions from what I can tell. I don't mind Iksar but I think the robes look very silly on them. Just my opinion. SK would be better but the SK gear I picked up in anticipation for trying one at some point is plate.

Just my 2 copper on this. If you are worried about "Fashion Quest" and robes, once you get your lich line high enough for the illusion, you'll be a skeleton more often than not and race/robe/helm/looks etc mean absolutely zero. /shrug

[Gustoo]

I’d go erudite evil for a unique evil
Experience with a few cool unique quests.

I’m not a Neriak guy though too much neon

[caveslug]

I’d go erudite evil for a unique evil
Experience with a few cool unique quests.

I’m not a Neriak guy though too much neon

I too would pick Erudite evil over a Dark Elf, Not to mention you never have to leave Warrens / Paineel. You could level up to 50+, and make 100k plat.

Outside of the ultravision never got the appeal of the Dark Elf and Neriak. I always had planned on making a Human Necro, and working out of the Temple of Bertoxxulous in the Qeynos Catacombs. But I mean you will honestly never be there much, far better to just make a level one and explore it.

[drfuzz]

As an Iksar, being hated by everyone adds more targets to kill. I remember the joy I felt when I was finally able to fearkite Sergeant Slate in WC. I’d take him down every time I ran through that zone as revenge.