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danceparty
06-19-2022, 04:15 PM
It has been a little over eight months since the Quillmane mechanic was revamped in SK (patch notes link at bottom) and while strategies and methods remain closely guarded secrets, it appears that the new pattern has been solved and a hand full of players are reliably spawning Quill again.

There is some considerable new complexity to speak of and without too many spoilers, here is a summary of the new challenge. Versus the ele calf and lioness pre-change which stood out like a sore thumb and largely made the camp trivial...locking down the PH's is now incredibly more precise and with a narrow margin of error. The area of PH spawn is now several times larger than before, well outside the max of ranger tracking, and once it pops, it immediately begins a zone wide wander. This poses significant challenge to both finding the first PH and keeping it dead. It can take an hour to find it, and a minute to lose it again.

I personally just solved the new mechanic this past week after probably close to 50 hours in SK over the months since the changes. Last week over the course of three hunts and a total of eight hours I spawned 12 quills and saw two cloaks. I believe I'll improve on this as I settle in and observe more PH behavior. Alas, this is enough success for me to feel comfortable offering peggy cloak LR again.

So the question I am grappling with is, what is a fair price for a post revamp peggy cloak LR? I would love some opinions and discussion!

50k? I initially thought that this revamp would drive LR's upwards of 50k, and I have seen a couple of WTS posts with that mark. It feels high and would likely deem a cloak out of reach for the majority of players who need it on a new fav alt or for their epic etc. That said, it's not my place to undercut someone who also spent the past 8 months and countless hours figuring it out. They deserve to be compensated for their effort. Also, supply and demand may dictate this to be the rate. Not sure.

20k? I feel 20 may be a little low. I estimate that a cloak is an average 4 hour hunt at current understandings. 4+ hours of laser sharp focus is going to burn out fast at 20k IMO.

30-35k? Still pretty high but may be a good middle ground.

Please let me hear your thoughts! I intend to post a WTS LR in Blue Trading sometime this week and would like to be aligned with the community on expectations of platinums. I am sure I haven't thought of everything, probably far from it...so new perspectives are also welcome. Post or DM, looking for constructive convo.

Thank you!

Briare Patch
60 Ranger
Vanquish

Patch Notes announcing the script change: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394926

Twochain
06-19-2022, 04:33 PM
Whatever people will pay. I think 20-30k is a good starting point

JDAm0nk
06-19-2022, 07:23 PM
and while strategies and methods remain closely guarded secrets, it appears that the new pattern has been solved and a hand full of players are reliably spawning Quill again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZIuc6hKYrw

https://wiki.takp.info/index.php/Quillmane

Hope that helps

Worry
06-20-2022, 01:16 PM
Yeah.. it does seem to take a bit longer now, but it isn't difficult nor is it some huge secret.

I seriously thought this thread was a joke at first. Am I missing something?

SantagarBrax
06-20-2022, 01:32 PM
10-15k until it goes back down to 6k.

Allishia
06-20-2022, 02:18 PM
It has been a little over eight months since the Quillmane mechanic was revamped in SK (patch notes link at bottom) and while strategies and methods remain closely guarded secrets, it appears that the new pattern has been solved and a hand full of players are reliably spawning Quill again.

There is some considerable new complexity to speak of and without too many spoilers, here is a summary of the new challenge. Versus the ele calf and lioness pre-change which stood out like a sore thumb and largely made the camp trivial...locking down the PH's is now incredibly more precise and with a narrow margin of error. The area of PH spawn is now several times larger than before, well outside the max of ranger tracking, and once it pops, it immediately begins a zone wide wander. This poses significant challenge to both finding the first PH and keeping it dead. It can take an hour to find it, and a minute to lose it again.

I personally just solved the new mechanic this past week after probably close to 50 hours in SK over the months since the changes. Last week over the course of three hunts and a total of eight hours I spawned 12 quills and saw two cloaks. I believe I'll improve on this as I settle in and observe more PH behavior. Alas, this is enough success for me to feel comfortable offering peggy cloak LR again.

So the question I am grappling with is, what is a fair price for a post revamp peggy cloak LR? I would love some opinions and discussion!

50k? I initially thought that this revamp would drive LR's upwards of 50k, and I have seen a couple of WTS posts with that mark. It feels high and would likely deem a cloak out of reach for the majority of players who need it on a new fav alt or for their epic etc. That said, it's not my place to undercut someone who also spent the past 8 months and countless hours figuring it out. They deserve to be compensated for their effort. Also, supply and demand may dictate this to be the rate. Not sure.

20k? I feel 20 may be a little low. I estimate that a cloak is an average 4 hour hunt at current understandings. 4+ hours of laser sharp focus is going to burn out fast at 20k IMO.

30-35k? Still pretty high but may be a good middle ground.

Please let me hear your thoughts! I intend to post a WTS LR in Blue Trading sometime this week and would like to be aligned with the community on expectations of platinums. I am sure I haven't thought of everything, probably far from it...so new perspectives are also welcome. Post or DM, looking for constructive convo.

Thank you!

Briare Patch
60 Ranger
Vanquish

Patch Notes announcing the script change: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394926

I want a guildy discount and need like 6 cloaks :p

Spithridates
06-20-2022, 02:27 PM
I don't have an answer but I've been leveling in SK this morning and theres been ALOT of people checking in on the camp.

Master Roshi
06-20-2022, 05:43 PM
15k for homie price
20k for guildy price
25k standard
30k for a bit of a hefty price

Allishia
06-21-2022, 08:42 AM
10k for Alli price /nod
15k for homie price
20k for guildy price
25k standard
30k for a bit of a hefty price

Furorr
06-21-2022, 09:09 AM
50k broski price

Allishia
06-21-2022, 09:34 AM
50k broski price

/Veto

Castle2.0
06-21-2022, 01:04 PM
According to my logs, in around ~40 hours I got:
94 Feathered Leggings
31 Pegasus Feather Cloak
source: https://wiki.takp.info/index.php/Quillmane

That's 1 hours 20 minutes on average per cloak. Can be soloed by a 39 ranger, but they recommend 2.

Before it took 3-4 people including a tracker.


Fully public info
Takes 2-3 fewer people, possible to solo
Takes about the same time

Sorry mate, it's gonna be 3k, and only because of inflation and people are used to paying 6k ;)

For 25k I'd just pay for the twink gear + powerlevel for my ranger. Oh wait, I have a ranger with dual Wurmslayers (only ranger dual-wielding Wurmslayers on any P99 server)

Zoolander
06-22-2022, 02:47 PM
. Oh wait, I have a ranger with dual Wurmslayers (only ranger dual-wielding Wurmslayers on any P99 server)

go see a doctor. he might be able to cure your ego problems.

Allishia
06-22-2022, 04:13 PM
go see a doctor. he might be able to cure your ego problems.

Did you know he also did levels 1-50 the fastest? /nod

Ghost of Starman
06-22-2022, 04:16 PM
Imagine being proud about "accomplishments" on an emulated server for a 23 year old game played by less than 1k people.

Castle2.0
06-22-2022, 07:41 PM
Sheesh guys, we don't need to make this all about me. I am blushing.

But if you insist.

Accomplishments mean something insomuch as they require something noble: creativity, skill, patience, etc.

What makes them worthwhile isn't the context, but the nobility behind them.

*flexes....nobly*

3k on QM cloak once people know the info from my last post

Karthil
06-23-2022, 07:16 PM
I don't think you'll get many customers above 20k, but I could be wrong.

The GMs are also increasing the drop rate of cloaks *pending update.*

My opinion? If you want to sell a few cloaks at higher prices? Charge 30k+. If you want to sell a lot of cloaks, price in the 15-20k range.

It's a fantastic item, but I think people will go without/buy pots before paying the higher prices.

getsome
06-26-2022, 12:30 PM
a couple days ago buddy got 5 qms in a row on red.

great test server to try things out with little interference.

the takp guide is pretty spot on, a pair of rangers makes it trivial.

eisley
06-28-2022, 10:08 PM
i've sold about 5 at 50k, now if i sell them its more like 30k. but i generally just give them away to friends.

Castle2.0
06-28-2022, 11:14 PM
i've sold about 5 at 50k, now if i sell them its more like 30k. but i generally just give them away to friends.

I've sold 6 at 60k, but now only like 40k... but I usually just donate loot rights to the local orphanage to keep it going.

Lammy
06-29-2022, 06:48 PM
I would just like to clarify that Quillmane is no longer a "camp"... its a FFA. If you think you're the one spawning Quillmanes and they're automatically yours... best to keep an eye over your shoulder.