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Bardp1999
06-02-2022, 10:52 AM
Launched on phone yesterday and PC today. Free to play with the caveat that its a shitty mobile game that will microtransaction you to death if you allow it. I played for a few hours last night, pretty fun so far, give it a whirl!

starkind
06-02-2022, 10:57 AM
It doesn't work on 90% of galaxy phones lol.

Poor devs don't even have phones to test on!

robayon
06-02-2022, 11:22 AM
I downloaded it but I havent yet even tried to play it. I have a galaxy phone, let's see if it fails to launch!

P2W games almost all stink anyways, so I am keeping my expectations low

starkind
06-02-2022, 11:38 AM
p2w is fine if u don't have an addictive gambling personality

cuz u get bored quick and it's a 15 min diversion and it doesn't matter if ur first loot box opens within 10 years

it's bad when kids get a hold of money for the first time in their life and they've been grinding that lootbox every day of their highschool senior year and they finally have their first job and they realize they can just buy lootboxes and the inevitable slide into entrainment destroys people by turning them into whales

honestly it's something i'm hesitant to crack down on with the government because i'm tired of treating everyone like a child, but at some point ppl just need to lose their freedom before it becomes a big mess and they are on the A train waving a gun around cuz they didn't get their dopa hit.

Now------------------

if Android Google store had loads of FOSS games and community made games and stuff for ppl that whwere completely free and about the art sure... would blunt this

only certain studios are allowed to pump out titles on the IoS and Apple and Android stores and stuff so...

yes someone could break into it with an indie studio, but u still gotta buy into the system to get advertised and published - gaming industry has quite turned into the music industry....

Do I love wow? Sure

Do I love what blizzard really is, absolutely not

is diablo immortal safe?

Like I said if you are a spirituall devoid person u will fill ur life with lootboxes and demons instead of going to church and baking pancakes with wholesome non-bromided flower

same problem as everything else and it's not even unique to games. PPL do the same thing in other aspects of life.

maybe diablo immortal isn't pay 2 win idk it's a mobile game tho so chances are super slim they aren't going to rake in $300+ a year from some ppl with little self control some how some way

otherwise the gameplay looked cute probably still not as good as d2 (from what I saw)

it's crazy they expect phones to do these shiny graphics and not explode batteries and stuff

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a few years ago I played that reef fish game where u get on every day and click fish and collect new fish i never bought anything from it tho and when i felt pressuredd I immediatly stopped, I did get some small enjoyment out of it, until I realized the ppl behind the game were evil foreigners and satanists.

yet i still play wow so there ya have it --- again

diablo immortal will find it's niche if they can get over the bad launch press lawl

---- oh yeah hearthstone got redic with platinum gold booster packs n stuff from what I was told.

Mblake1981
06-02-2022, 12:03 PM
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Chortles Snortles
06-02-2022, 12:48 PM
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Reiwa
06-02-2022, 01:04 PM
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starkind
06-02-2022, 02:36 PM
Diablo Immortal isnt quite pay to win but its close! (https://www.pcgamer.com/diablo-immortal-isnt-quite-pay-to-win-but-its-close/)

Reiwa
06-05-2022, 02:05 PM
blake content (https://twitter.com/fakirmeditation/status/1533094947158900736) 🧵

starkind
06-05-2022, 02:09 PM
It's definitely p2w scheme. But really fun upto that point.

Don't let ur credit card anywhere near the thing.

starkind
06-05-2022, 09:07 PM
It Costs $110,000 to Fully Gear-Up in Diablo Immortal

https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/

Elizondo
06-05-2022, 10:59 PM
They aren't even hiding their greed

F Blizzard

starkind
06-06-2022, 12:05 AM
Still got old school d2 lol.

Asmongold spent like $300 today. 600 total lol

He wants to spend 10k tho.

Homesteaded
06-06-2022, 11:41 AM
Step 1: Don't read online forums about games, gamer mentality is diseased and immature.
Step 2: Enjoy the game if you like it, or don't.

starkind
06-06-2022, 12:18 PM
naw diablo immortal looks really fun, if you can beat the story quest for less than $40 i think thats fine

There is definitely some psychotic whale potential tho for poor ppl like Elon Musk with like 1 million dollar credit limits.

I haven't tried seeing how far I can get and won't spend money on a mobile game so I'd probably only ever get to act 2 and that is kinda a shame since I can get through every act in diablo II and that game makes more sense to me

there are a lot of menus where you have to roll through items and claim prizes in diablo immortal which makes the game actually harder/more confusing to me to play than diablo ii

it's nice they humor boss mechanics

the asmongold bro tho has zero challenge with his $610 character and he's still time gated behind leveling a bit.

I'm not casting stones knowledge, just musing at the potential of the human race, I guess a game about satan is going to be dangerous to play for the soul. I'm not saying u will go to hell or G-d says not to play Diablo Immortal. Just that is kinda crazy how far the game can go with the P2W scheme. It looks like it's more fun if you DON'T pay to win. So there is a lesson to be learned there. Some people have massive gambling addictions though and the game is designed around exploiting that. A lot of ppl are going to get burnt by it who belong in church instead of playing online mobile games.

It's also designed around clans which will put peer pressure on people to pay to win at some point if not already for whatever reason. It kills the whole diablo II ladder/hardcore ladder pvp aspect of the game and makes it sad.

I think anyone who has any gambling, or plain old addiction issues, or any problems with money etc should stear way clear of it for their own safety. And ppl should know about that. So they can make an informed choice.

I think Asmongold is both having fun, and doing a public service by paying to win for us to see whats up. I think it's cool and it's been great entertainment. Some small dollar donation through my youtube sub has gone to him and it's gone through him straight to the Immortal Diablo. Instead of to like Ukraine, or a 3rd party agrarian revolution. WHich is probably for the best because diablo immortal isn't putting bullets in people or burrying the rich in mass graves and stuff. And liek resurrecting the Knights Templar as a legitimate anti-tech army :o

Reiwa
06-06-2022, 12:35 PM
It Costs $110,000 to Fully Gear-Up in Diablo Immortal

https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/

I skimmed and closed. What do they define as fully geared?

Jibartik
06-06-2022, 12:37 PM
Step 1: Don't read online forums about games, gamer mentality is diseased and immature.
Step 2: Enjoy the game if you like it, or don't.

https://reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/v5oaz0/one_of_the_most_annoying_mechanics_ever/

I was just reading through this thread and all I could think was, I really hope everyone who commented on this has to go to war.

These guys say punch out is bad and lazy game design, and god of war bosses suck.

I've had it with gamers, on one hand Id hate to wait 10 years to go to war, on the other hand I want to make sure all these kids go to it so they can see how well rolling around in a fight works in real life.

starkind
06-06-2022, 01:00 PM
I skimmed and closed. What do they define as fully geared?

Sus article. I didn't read i skimmed 2, I imagine that gear is rediculous and ppl probably olnly need like one rank 3 legendary gem or whatever to beat the game I hope

i am not going to research further tho because it's very unlikely I will spend mony on diablo immortal b4 i buy the diablo ii remaster

https://reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/v5oaz0/one_of_the_most_annoying_mechanics_ever/

I was just reading through this thread and all I could think was, I really hope everyone who commented on this has to go to war.

These guys say punch out is bad and lazy game design, and god of war bosses suck.

I've had it with gamers, on one hand Id hate to wait 10 years to go to war, on the other hand I want to make sure all these kids go to it so they can see how well rolling around in a fight works in real life.
lol :o ;)

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The one thing asmongold did prove tho is that you can win at the game and it lets u spend a good deal of money per day like 200-300 or something like that if u really pushed it.

pretty fun video if u got a few hours to kill ddeH0IwxFKI

yes it's clickbaity ish :p :D :o

what stands out is that he needs help getting through the menus to collect his rewards from his regular gameplay from his audience.

--------------- I'm not an asmon sub

I don't think u should be mad at him

This is the way the world works now

this and 40lb of rice and a crockpot is the only way some chinese exectives living in shangai can make it through their longdowns using nordvpn

hth

starkind
06-06-2022, 01:06 PM
my brain is very dmg'd reiwa so expect my spelling and grammar to get much worse b4 the final end end

I DID shower tho! used dove bar soap :D

Jibartik
06-06-2022, 01:10 PM
pretty fun video if u got a few hours to kill ddeH0IwxFKI



good video but lmao watching asmongold talk shit on diablo immortal for giving away daily rewards and making him "feel like he's winning"

Then he goes into play the dungeon and its basically diabolo and I'm reminded that game like existed to give players the feeling that they were "winning" a dungon crawler by button mashing, before mobile games existed lol

Its like, to complain about mobile game design in a game like diablo just shows that you dont even know video game history at all. Diablo was like the first casual mobile type dungeon crawler, before mobile existed.

This immortal game is the natural evolution of Diablo's pioneered decline of quality gameplay design.

starkind
06-06-2022, 01:13 PM
is he really complaining or just regretting his own decision to make his own character too powerful tho?

he's asking his audience what they think -- what's it like not to be a whale

I think he's aware that the game is super fun and he says it over and over --- maybe he's not fully self aware --- he's not like crying or mad -- and u can see him get into the flow state even though his character is fucking awesome

---- that is a lot of fun for some ppl so having an wacky OP char because u spent $500 is legitimately cool and normal for some and I don't think they are stupid

I feel like there's some self resentment and judgement brewing in him over that --- I also am not sure he's fully there yet --- he's definately getting immersed

one thing is for sure tho the guy is on the path to ascencion.

Jibartik
06-06-2022, 01:15 PM
he was just bitching because an enemy blinded him like "THIS IS BAD GAME DESIGN"

another pawn for the front lines

starkind
06-06-2022, 01:57 PM
he was just bitching because an enemy blinded him like "THIS IS BAD GAME DESIGN"

another pawn for the front lines

That wasn't an enemy mechanic it was a challenge mode/hardness mechanic

I do agree they went a little too far with that. If it was just a move a particular enemy did, was temporary and had a countermove it could be a lot of fun.

DI is missing some of its potential. After watching that whole video I can see how much potential the game has.

He's sorta right about the auction house, servers feeling dead already too. There should be one main server. The way the game is set up now. Leave this one p2w

And there should be seasonal ladder servers with a small monthly sub. Like 5$ that are unlocked for different challenge difficulties and play modes. Without the p2w boosts for competitive play, hardcore modes, racing for bosses, collectable etc.

I think that's the way of the future tbqvfh.

Jibartik
06-06-2022, 02:05 PM
hopefully there is no future with our trajectory :mad:

unsunghero
06-06-2022, 02:11 PM
Yeah I saw the vid of Asmongold playing it. Game looks polished, but overly-easy non-challenging and extremely P2W

Maybe it’s just because he isn’t to the “hell” difficulty yet but when you can stand in one spot ignoring all the boss’s AOE’s and kill it by pressing one button, that’s a bit too easy for my tastes

Jibartik
06-06-2022, 02:13 PM
Yeah not incredibly tacticool and strategic like my older diablo games.

:o

starkind
06-06-2022, 02:19 PM
Put me in a pod with a monthly subscription of platinum and I will devote some of my cpu cycles to keeping your world safe via the ansible fleet

unsunghero
06-07-2022, 02:53 PM
Was bored and my cousin had downloaded it so I DL’d it. Have a necromancer. Graphics and gameplay are crisp on my iPhone 10, I’m still in the first town. No interest in spending money

Elizondo
06-07-2022, 03:46 PM
Was bored and my cousin had downloaded it so I DL’d it. Have a necromancer. Graphics and gameplay are crisp on my iPhone 10, I’m still in the first town. No interest in spending money

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Shawk
06-07-2022, 04:59 PM
i miss when the natural progression of a gamer was to become a game developer.



ps, we would have better games if more people just turned their passion into a hobby, but alas.. tip tapping on a forum/social media is an absolutely degenerate waste of time.

unsunghero
06-07-2022, 10:01 PM
vid

Yeah I’ve known about this, whales are something like 50%+ of mobile game’s income

These games are designed by psychologists to suck people in, get them hooked, then make them hit a paywall to manipulate them to try to buy their way out, specifically through addictive gambling purchases. You can’t buy the OP items, you can buy the CHANCE to get the OP item. Makes you spend more and get that dopamine rush from winning via gambling which they want you to become addicted to

I’ve watched the vids and know what tricks they will try here. You will gain steady power spikes until level 30ish, in which case your progression will continue to slow. At that point the best use of your time is logging in to do a daily quest, possibly checking to see if there is an event (occurs every 2 hours with decent rewards) and then bailing. There is almost no point to trying to slog through grinding progression as F2P past level 30. You can exp and grind, but only if you are bored with literally nothing else better to do, it shouldn’t be a priority because the reward for time spent is basically almost nothing. This is very different than the daily and events, which give a big reward for a few minutes of time

So that’s the plan. Level 14 now. Once I get to 30 it’ll be minimal playing. Or else I might make a new char and try other classes out until the level 30 paywall. I’m glad I checked the warnings about this particular game’s pay scheme tactics so I’m prepared ahead of time and won’t be wasting huge chunks of time for almost no reward

Elizondo
06-07-2022, 10:35 PM
It's a casino

Not a video game

Tunabros
06-07-2022, 11:14 PM
pretty fun tbh

but its a huge cash grab

starkind
06-07-2022, 11:39 PM
What is the minimum amount of money required to hit 60 and finish the main quest without getting OP?

Mblake1981
06-07-2022, 11:52 PM
The April fools are here to stay.

unsunghero
06-08-2022, 12:55 AM
pretty fun tbh

but its a huge cash grab

Yeah the last time I tried playing a phone game was when phone games first came out (like candy crush times), and they were crap

I was blown away by how far the tech has come, and did not expect a char to control that well using my fat sausage fingers on a phone. The gameplay is engaging for a phone game, it’s a shame that it’s P2W as F

I don’t plan to pvp at all to prevent giving any sad whales the chance to justify their huge wastes of money to themselves

Mblake1981
06-08-2022, 01:16 AM
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unsunghero
06-08-2022, 02:10 AM
What is the minimum amount of money required to hit 60 and finish the main quest without getting OP?

A lot probably. I think it was said $110k to completely max out a char

Some twitch streamer dropped $4k on stream and couldn’t even create a T4 gem or crest or whatever it’s called, when T5 is the max

So it’s whaling harder than the Japanese did to actual whales. It’s whaling like desperate guys do when they strike out at the club

What’s going to happen is they’ll feign surprise and go “oh, is this too P2W rigged and not F2P friendly enough, we’ll very slightly change it” like months later after they’ve cash grabbed to fake like they listen to consumers. Or they won’t. They very well could still say “Fuck you, pay me”. The sky is the limit with blizz now. It’s a shame that the gameplay is actually good for a phone game like I said

starkind
06-08-2022, 10:02 AM
I think maybe you can get a battlepass for $14.99 and maybe spend an aditional $10 or something to quickly get through the main Solo quest of the game and hit lvl 60?

Sadly that is on a per character basis, I think. Which would screw anyone completing multiple characters. So X6 --- update --- it's per account so I'll round it up to $30 per character to hit 60 and beat the main quest solo. So you gotta do a $180 purchase to play MOST of the entire game and never get the best gear (who cares though best gear is the dumbest thing in MMOs these days).

Anyway hth. ??? it's pure speculation tho.

Actually $180 is not bad for a really good tripple AAA launch title if it gave u everything for $180 (mega inflation) forever for good per expansion I would be cool with that. Although I feel like DI falls short on the triple AAA difficulty scaling. For that a solo run through hell mode should take like 90hrs and be fun and difficult and rewarding. It's not from what I can tell the whales are kinda disappointed in what they are getting. Are the devs sabotaging netease by making the base game more interesting than the whaling version?

I agree you shouldn't pvp in this game.

From what I can tell there is a mostly only 3 % difference in difficulty between normal and hellish characters and uber gear (like rank 2 stuff for the $1000 plebes). From reading reddit posts.

I whaled for wow a little bit. I bought like several tokens. And mounts and transmogs from the store. And a toy or something. So the potential whaleiness of me scares me. If someone came out with a really good game they could whale me good.

I heard games like path of exile are sort of insanity though.

That said.... if my monthly wow and EQ subscriptions probably have tallied upto... 120 months of subscription time.. I have spent a lot on those games.

Totalling at least $2,000 if u count a few minor purchases in the EQ cash shop as well. Over the course of 10 years worth of subs divided between the games. By these metrics these online games are really expensive to play compared to like Deus Ex. Which I have played at least 5 times and paid only $45 for, probably more like $90 adjusted for inflation. And I bought multiple games in the series. So bring that up to at least $300, Deus Ex and Deus Ex invisible war where the best though, Mankind Divided and stuff was OK storywise, the difficulty was shit tho and the level design meh to OK.

Are we all just whales waiting to happen?

--- It is a way cheaper hobbie than flying lear jets. Base Jumping. Shooting guns. Racing cars.

At least with brewing alcohal and gardening or raising goats u would get a return for your investment that is more than just entertainment.

If I could stick myself into a pod with a skinner box for the rest of my life and just tube feed myself on my disability check (retirement check from social security counts too) I would. And I would probably currently chose WoW, maybe. I'm looking forward to the day I can get paid for piloting an NPC character :p

That said, I definitely have spent more on alcohol and movies for the total time of my life --- and I quit both of those for at least over 5 years now, I saw one movie in the last 5 years. So. I do have a subscription to a streaming service 😬

TLDR everything burns away --- DI has the potential to burn fast. Does it need too? Is it necessary? Or can you be an amateur whale?

starkind
06-08-2022, 10:29 AM
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plzrelax
06-08-2022, 10:51 AM
I gave them $5 for the starter pack. My barbarian is level 52 now. Nobody is forcing me to spend any more money and I’ll beat the game and get max level in my own time. Being able to quickly load up a dungeon with a few other players and slaughter everything while demonic voices taunt you is a great mobile experience.

I also appreciate some of the writing and voice acting. The game kind of makes fun of itself.. “We have to defeat Leoric… Again!”

Being an ATVI shareholder helps too

Ripp
06-08-2022, 11:04 AM
I don't even understand why people play this trash, let alone throw money at them. It's fail. So much fail.

Mblake1981
06-08-2022, 11:09 AM
I don't even understand why people play this trash, let alone throw money at them. It's fail. So much fail.

Low brow drug abuse

Bardp1999
06-08-2022, 11:48 AM
I'm level 58 and nearly done with the main quest and have spent $0. If you want to have max equipment and gems less than a week into launch then I guess you have to spend money, if you don't mind waiting you can eventually earn these same rewards through normal gameplay

unsunghero
06-08-2022, 12:29 PM
I have no interest in trying to rush to end game. I rolled a crusader on a co-worker’s realm just to check it out. I’ll probably keep re-rolling to try all the classes, even though necro is still fun (my necro is I think lv 18 on diff server)

Elizondo
06-08-2022, 12:34 PM
I don't always play Diablo, but when I do it's for the main quest

Said no one ever

starkind
06-08-2022, 01:16 PM
Honestly I feel like the game has a solid $30 value except it's your choice if you want to donate to blizzards net ease patreon or not. (Which = 3 funbucks in USD if you consider inflation from 1981 till today or something.)

starkind
06-08-2022, 01:18 PM
I'm level 58 and nearly done with the main quest and have spent $0. If you want to have max equipment and gems less than a week into launch then I guess you have to spend money, if you don't mind waiting you can eventually earn these same rewards through normal gameplay

And yet u still find time to post. Hmmm. 🤔

starkind
06-08-2022, 01:20 PM
I don't always play Diablo, but when I do it's for the main quest

Said no one ever

Tru lol. The point it is it has a logical "endpoint" if you have impulse control and zero addiction issues.

starkind
06-08-2022, 01:51 PM
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unsunghero
06-08-2022, 02:39 PM
Just did Mad King’s Breach dungeon or whatever it is on both necro and crusader separately

The classes play very different but ultimately are very similar in terms of power. Necro just runs around spamming summoning skeleton soldiers and skeleton mages and waits for them to kill a few things so he can cast a chain reaction of corpse explosions

Crusader seems slightly more boring thus far. Pretty much just using the steed mount skill to plow through stuff hacking away, then aoe stun and run around killing time until the steed mount skill comes back. His falling sword move is pretty fun but kinda hard to aim on phone

But both chars beat the dungeon as easily as each other. Can tell the game is careful to keep the classes pretty balanced with each other in terms of pve

Having a lot of fun for a free phone game still

Mblake1981
06-08-2022, 03:21 PM
Riveting

https://theoldnet.com/get?timestamp=19961019172654&url=http://blizzard.com//diablo/diablo.htm

unsunghero
06-09-2022, 02:12 PM
I’m at the part of the storyline where they give you a free legendary crest and say to do an elder rift with it

But I don’t wanna. I don’t want to do it now at level 27, it will drop scrub gear. I’d rather wait until I’m closer to max level. But doing it is part of the main storyline quest it seems. Is there any way to skip doing it or do I have to, anyone know?

starkind
06-09-2022, 02:21 PM
Nope u have to get addicted to that one single legendary quest to progress the story :D

do it though u will get some good gear for a hot minute maybe!

unsunghero
06-09-2022, 02:42 PM
Nope u have to get addicted to that one single legendary quest to progress the story :D

do it though u will get some good gear for a hot minute maybe!

Are u playing now? How far are u?

unsunghero
06-09-2022, 02:55 PM
Noice, I got a 2-Star Lightning Core gem from it

starkind
06-09-2022, 04:00 PM
Naw right now I am slowly working my way through Zerith Mortis. Trying to learn to play wow again.


TBH it's really confusing. Switching gears a bunch is hard on me :( so I tend to pick a goal and just stick with it. --- I may seem smart --- that's because my typing skills are still good. It's weird when I talk lawl sometimes my brain does not verbal language very well.

Upside I can still do casual stuff in wow. Downside, I doubt I will ever reach the skill I had years ago. My brain :( my poor poor brain QQ. Won't know till I try though.

OH ALSO I walked up and down my driveway 50x that was some good exercise. Time to go stretch.

unsunghero
06-09-2022, 10:44 PM
Naw right now I am slowly working my way through Zerith Mortis. Trying to learn to play wow again.


TBH it's really confusing. Switching gears a bunch is hard on me :( so I tend to pick a goal and just stick with it. --- I may seem smart --- that's because my typing skills are still good. It's weird when I talk lawl sometimes my brain does not verbal language very well.

Upside I can still do casual stuff in wow. Downside, I doubt I will ever reach the skill I had years ago. My brain :( my poor poor brain QQ. Won't know till I try though.

OH ALSO I walked up and down my driveway 50x that was some good exercise. Time to go stretch.


WoW is definitely complex. Retail has complicated raid mechanics, classic has far too much ability/hotkey bloat. I was using 55 hotkeys in TBC

Diablo immortal is def not

It’s worth it to try to learn the more complex game though, in regards to brain health IMO. Puzzle games are ideal tbh

unsunghero
06-09-2022, 11:48 PM
Funny that DI world chat is basically WoW barrens chat

I was getting ready for my workout and decided to chill in town and open the chat log. Aaaaand it’s political arguments. Ah there’s some “incel” calling, some “racist” calling, ah there’s a “4chan” mention

There’s the WoW barrens chat I remember. Just needs a little bit of extreme sexual references and we’re set

starkind
06-10-2022, 10:12 AM
WoW is definitely complex. Retail has complicated raid mechanics, classic has far too much ability/hotkey bloat. I was using 55 hotkeys in TBC

Diablo immortal is def not

It’s worth it to try to learn the more complex game though, in regards to brain health IMO. Puzzle games are ideal tbh

Yep. I was mad when they nerfed some of the more complicated puzzle aspects of some of the miniquests in favor of more complex scavenger hunt style mechanics oh well.

I have a sudoku book. I should crack that open.

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Apparently some really unlucky fella gambled $10k and didn't win anything in DI? I feel like it's another exaggerated headline, I didn't open his video to analyze. And I think the gist is there's a daily cap on rewards? I don't think u can pay to really get around it.

The big money p2w elements should definitely have no RNG or gambling mechanic. Just strait up pay 1k for a 5/5 or something that is 2/5 and can be upgraded.

DMN
06-10-2022, 01:09 PM
The big money p2w elements should definitely have no RNG or gambling mechanic. Just strait up pay 1k for a 5/5 or something that is 2/5 and can be upgraded.

Why? once a sucker, always a sucker.

unsunghero
06-10-2022, 08:04 PM
Yep. I was mad when they nerfed some of the more complicated puzzle aspects of some of the miniquests in favor of more complex scavenger hunt style mechanics oh well.

I have a sudoku book. I should crack that open.

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Apparently some really unlucky fella gambled $10k and didn't win anything in DI? I feel like it's another exaggerated headline, I didn't open his video to analyze. And I think the gist is there's a daily cap on rewards? I don't think u can pay to really get around it.

The big money p2w elements should definitely have no RNG or gambling mechanic. Just strait up pay 1k for a 5/5 or something that is 2/5 and can be upgraded.

The game seems to have a pretty robust end game, but it’s a lot of repetition. You probably wouldn’t want to try to do all of the F2P stuff you could in a day because it would take too much time

It’s still been fun as F to just solo through as F2P. I DL’d it on PC to make a wizard bc they use mostly skillshots which are kind of a pain on phone to aim, I think my wiz is in his 20’s. On PC you can move with wasd and hotkey spells to whatever key you want so it plays like WoW. I wanted to roll the wizard for end game pvp char bc I heard that the pvp battlegrounds use a MMR matchmaking system, so the whales tend to get matched to other whales and scrubs to scrubs

This is my baller lev 34 necro main. Just found a legendary scythe off some trash spider. Don’t mind his stupid helmet, at my lev it’ll be replaced in like a day anyway

starkind
06-11-2022, 01:04 PM
If I become bed bound really badly again I'm so going to try this game. Tho ide rather d2 classic on a lite eco laptop. The kind that weighs like nuffins.

foxchris509
06-12-2022, 11:00 PM
Imagine spending 10k on a game and not get anything cool

starkind
06-13-2022, 12:43 AM
There's 1 good puzzle in zerith the other two are super duper ez ( or just handynotes way points.

Diablo immortal looks fun. I'd want something I could play offline on a big touch tablet if I was stuck in a cave with one of those big uber bats and a solar cell.

robayon
06-13-2022, 12:49 AM
if i'm ever stuck in a cave with you, you can bet we're playing VDDD&D until we're rescued or dead

(verbal duo diceless dungeons and dragons)

starkind
06-13-2022, 01:13 AM
*mimes in orc*

unsunghero
06-13-2022, 02:40 PM
*mimes in orc*

It’s a lot of fun. Necro is like 45 and my wizard is like 42. Turns out landing wizard’s skillshots on phone aren’t hard due to auto-targetting

Necro’s are super overplayed, probably like 50% of my server are necros. Crusaders and barbs are overpowered, necro’s are good, wizards are kinda gimp but fun, and monks and DH’s are good

My necro has had some insane luck with legendaries, basically has one for every slot by lev 45 and one has a power that is highly sought after (rotgore). My wizard has had shit luck, almost no legendaries and the ones he got sucks

Haven’t been posting as much because been spending so much downtime at work on my phone on Diablo :/

Check this baller:

starkind
06-13-2022, 04:27 PM
That is a much cooler outfit!

starkind
06-13-2022, 04:29 PM
Honestly playing diablo is better for u than shitposting on these forums don't apologize because you're getting enjoyment to pass the down time.

Ripp
06-13-2022, 05:18 PM
Honestly playing diablo is better for u than shitposting on these forums don't apologize because you're getting enjoyment to pass the down time.

Hmm, that's debatable. Personally, I'd rather munch glass than play that greedy trash ball they call a game. Blizzard is pathetic, and getting worse. They are a pure trash company who's sole purpose is to milk every last cent from their customers that they can. Every. Last. One.

Garbage.

Ripp
06-13-2022, 05:22 PM
He sums it up nicely:

nPsO886aEQw

starkind
06-13-2022, 05:48 PM
Hmm, that's debatable. Personally, I'd rather munch glass than play that greedy trash ball they call a game. Blizzard is pathetic, and getting worse. They are a pure trash company who's sole purpose is to milk every last cent from their customers that they can. Every. Last. One.

Garbage.
Let's be honest. I would rather make my own games and also this is capitalism.

No MMO is as good as I could make. Even everquest classic has its pitfalls.
He sums it up nicely:

nPsO886aEQw
I'm going to watch this later thx!

Bardp1999
06-13-2022, 09:21 PM
I'm Parqagon level 18 and have spent $0, hope this helps

unsunghero
06-13-2022, 09:43 PM
^
Yep. The game can provide lots of entertainment for free


I watched Asmon’s vid because I like Asmon but he’s wrong on some things. First off, it’s a phone game with a PC port, not the other way around. So to compare it to D3, a PC and console game, is a little ridiculous. It’s also free

Secondly, I played a LOT of D3, I think I got my sorc up to like greater rift levels in the 90’s. She had a primal staff and a couple pieces of primal armor, which are incredibly rare versions of gear with perfect maxed stats. The thing that completely ruined D3 for me was the hacking. If you weren’t playing a season, which is a reset of everyone’s char, and were instead playing the non-season mode, probably 90% of people were hacking in that. They had gear with +1,000,000,000xdamage and would go into your rift and one-shot everything

Seasons are what fixed the game, and it DOES have a much better reputation now than at launch, and a fairly healthy playerbase still. I personally didn’t want to play seasons because in order to compete in those you had to grind all day, and I didn’t have the time for that. I also got my primal gear before the hacks came out, and I didn’t like the idea of having to reroll a char from scratch after getting so lucky with primal gear on my main

So in summary, you can’t compare a phone game to a pc game, and the fact asmon refuses to play games on his phone is his problem. The game can be very fun to play for free as long as you aren’t planning on bashing your head into the wall of end game leaderboards. These you still can do for free, there’s some monk twitch streamer and a DH twitch streamer who are high ranked and F2P but they play 20 hours a day. F that

Bardp1999
06-13-2022, 10:51 PM
People bitching about P2W in Diablo is like people bitching about the raid scene here - it affects a minority of players and there is plenty to do if you are fine with HoT armor instead Vulak armor

DMN
06-14-2022, 05:34 AM
Serious question: who would play this trash over lost ark?

robayon
06-14-2022, 08:16 AM
Serious question: who would play this trash over lost ark?People still play Lost Ark?

Rocket League is still dope

Ripp
06-14-2022, 09:46 AM
The new season for PD2 starts on the 24th, that's the play. Scuffed D3 with P2W? Nah.

unsunghero
06-14-2022, 10:43 AM
Serious question: who would play this trash over lost ark?

I’ve heard this game is good, never tried or seen it though. If I burn out on DI, I might try it

I tried pvp for the first time because the game gives you a quest for battlepass progression to do one match. It was kind of a bitch on phone because the game won’t auto-aim your skillshots vs players like it does vs NPC enemies. I wasn’t expecting to have fun on necro because I heard they suck in pvp, but it still was quite a bit of fun. I think I did frustrate the enemy with my bonewalls, was using some clutch bone armor buffs for my team, and even got a few killing blows

I have no idea how the scaling or matchmaking works, I was level 50 (I take my time leveling, what can I say). What they could do to make pvp not be a whale’s wet dream is either match people by gearscore or else normalize everyone’s stats upon entering. If I find out once I hit the paragons that pvp is ruined by whales I’ll probably stop pvp’ing completely. It doesn’t seem to be very rewarding in terms of in-game progression anyway

unsunghero
06-14-2022, 11:56 AM
The new season for PD2 starts on the 24th, that's the play. Scuffed D3 with P2W? Nah.

What is PD2?

Ripp
06-14-2022, 12:26 PM
What is PD2?

Project Diablo 2 (https://www.projectdiablo2.com/)

It's absolutely amazing. I wish those guys owned and programmed for Blizzard. They're that good.

unsunghero
06-14-2022, 02:51 PM
Project Diablo 2 (https://www.projectdiablo2.com/)

It's absolutely amazing. I wish those guys owned and programmed for Blizzard. They're that good.

Kk I’ll be more likely to check that out after I get tired of DI or hit that paywall than I would Lost Ark

I played the shit outta D2 back in the day. My pvp fireball sorc was lv 98, had entire full inventory of +fireball skill charms (+ HOTO and best in slot gear) to where it did enough damage to one-shot anyone no matter their resistance on hell difficulty. Musta killed hundreds of players. Used to have some trouble with max skill charm necro’s and amazons with enigma. We’d all have enough damage to one-shot each other but their projectiles flew faster (bone spear and guided arrow), so I had to be the better dodger while we were all teleporting around

Penarddan
10-18-2022, 08:15 AM
Blizzard describes Diablo Immortal as an action RPG. So the concept is definitely designed for multiple players. In the technical alpha version, there are six open areas where you can encounter other players. If you encounter a player, you can chat with them, send voice messages, trade, or even form a guild. In the open game sections, different actions will happen from time to time. But while everyone is waiting for an exact release date for this version, I'm playing diablo 2 resurrected. Indeed, I don't know all the properties of many of the gear yet, such as Jalal's mane, scalder's wrath, etc. Fortunately, there is a site called yesgamers.com (https://www.yesgamers.com/diablo-2/skullders-ire) where all the properties are described.

Swish
10-18-2022, 06:41 PM
He sums it up nicely:

nPsO886aEQw

Isn't this video like a year too late?

magnetaress
10-19-2022, 12:59 PM
Blizzard has decided to make mediocre games for whales.

Jibartik
10-19-2022, 01:00 PM
This is the way...

(of the consumer driven apocalypse)

unsunghero
10-19-2022, 02:44 PM
Blizzard has decided to make mediocre games for whales.

Pretty accurate description

It ran great on my iPhone 10x. The gameplay was incredibly fluid and fun. The problem was you eventually got stuck in an endless loop of doing the same content over and over and OVER each day

They tried to come out with new raid bosses but it wasn’t fast enough

I think I got to paragon 85ish on my necro before I quit. My shining moment was when they released a new raid boss that was kind of OP for the non-whales, she could one-shot most players and they would leave the raid once they realized it was gonna be a wipe

But my necro had a build that had 5 charges of 100% damage absorb buff I could reapply via bone armor with a particular gearset. So as long as I fought very conservative, I could be essentially invincible. One time after all the raid left, I continued to fight this raid boss and took her from 80% to 10% before she finally caught me in a string of hits and killed me. 3 people from the raid stayed in to watch and were like “wow dude you almost solo’d her”. It took like 20 mins lol