Incorrect Wiki Info

[Drueric]

HI I dont know how to edit wikis but if someone who does could fix this.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Forged_Short_Sword

It says here that this is trivial at 68, but this is wrong. It is trivial at 62.

This one below is also wrong.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Forged_Morning_Star
The tradeskills page says 72, but the item page says 68, the correct trivial is 68

[loramin]

HI I dont know how to edit wikis

Step #1: Go to http://wiki.project1999.com/

Step #2: Click "Log in" in the upper-right corner

Step #3: Click "Create an account"

Step #4: Create an account

Step #5: Profit! Edit!

(When you edit, there will be "wikitext", not normal text, but it should still be easy to find the number and change it even if you don't know wikitext.)

[Dolalin]

Okay this is probably a rabbit hole.

I've got an in-era source saying the original trivial for Forged Morning Star was >93:

https://web.archive.org/web/20011207114215/http://www.geocities.com/eq_compendium/trade_skills/blacksmithing_printable.htm

And then I've got an EQLizer page from 2003 titled "blacksmithing revamp" with the trivial at 68 (warning: disable site javascript on archive.org to avoid a redirect):

https://web.archive.org/web/20030424093309/http://eqlizer.net/eq/new/blacksmithingrevamp.shtml

I feel like someone who knows more about tradeskills than me needs to have a look at this and see if everything is okay. I bet it's not.

[Dolalin]

Seems there was a smithing revamp in 2002 that altered trivials:


10 Jun 2002


Since the most recent patch, trivials on smithing have
been dropped down significantly. Suddenly the highest trivial
on banded is 115, far below my current skill. I'm looking at
some Ornate Chain just to get up to 175 (expensive types, too,
ranging up to where spending 100 pp on a platinum bar per
attempt will be necessary) and then FS plate, which isn't going
to go much higher, the high end of -that- is 188 for the BP.


https://groups.google.com/g/alt.games.everquest/c/E9dpYsmcung/m/w1M0wJho48EJ

[Dolalin]

Okay I found the eqtraders page that demonstrates this very nicely.

In 2001 the trivials were this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20011213224339/http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_weapons.htm

Then in 2002 after the revamp they became this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030618122631/http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_weapons.htm

For example, Forged Morning Star went from trivial 95 to trivial 68.

I'd say this needs attention.

[loramin]

Big mess of classic research

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