TEAMS

[DRAGONBAIT]

Come on, close this museum already and give us a new teams or wathever server

[Tradesonred]

Indiana Jones approves this post

[Gustoo]

+1 for whatever server

[Duvain]

Hopefully one day in the next 5 years we'll get some news.

[Tradesonred]

id post a long winded post about how a teams ruleset must be babysat before launch or else it will turn into a disaster where as FFA just works right off the bat with no frills but im tired of not knowing if devs read any of the feedback so i wont.

Like how easy it is to run an invicible spy to get a lookout on a zone before attempting to attack it. Loads of little details like that, that i doubt the dev team (bless their hearts) will spend much time on, which makes FFA the effortless prime choice. But ill play a teams server till the lols run out though

[DRAGONBAIT]

What about the lvl range? No lvl range for pvp in raid zones¿? Keep the discusion polite plz, attack others only based on their opinions of a pvp server ruleset, never for not knowing everquest, thanks in advance skizos

[Jibartik]

It belongs in a bluesium.

[Gustoo]

I don't think you can do anything to counter spies. I think you gotta assume some guy is spending time as a level 1 dwarf scouting out all of faydwer continent for raids.

You have to counteract this kinda stuff with legit counter intelligence techniques that are used by organizations all over the world. Compartmentalize shit, know who should know what and when leaks are happening. Because you would organize a murder force for when enemy team tries to raid unrest for some bloodstained mantles and mistmoor for some shields.

So whether or not they have a dwarf scout or not isn't going to be mission critical. Real organized actions take place from guild chat not from the generic West team vs East team chat.

[Jibartik]

I love when people start accusing each other of being spies in a red guild voip.

[Tradesonred]

I don't think you can do anything to counter spies. I think you gotta assume some guy is spending time as a level 1 dwarf scouting out all of faydwer continent for raids.

You have to counteract this kinda stuff with legit counter intelligence techniques that are used by organizations all over the world. Compartmentalize shit, know who should know what and when leaks are happening. Because you would organize a murder force for when enemy team tries to raid unrest for some bloodstained mantles and mistmoor for some shields.

So whether or not they have a dwarf scout or not isn't going to be mission critical. Real organized actions take place from guild chat not from the generic West team vs East team chat.

It was just something off the top of my head. Like, to be able to constantly have eyes on a force without being able to kill said eyes.

More crucially, things like what do you do if one of the faction has 2 strong guilds like seal team on green, the other 2 factions get discouraged and start losing numbers, and it just spirals downward like that. At least in FFA teams can get shuffled, you dont feel like youve wasted time on your char because of that, might hop on the pve zerg train to experience zones, etc... on teams its all locked in.

Again ill play teams if thats what is chosen, but i have a feeling its gonna go down the drain fast unless alot of time is spent thinking how to make it work. It would be all kinds of sad really to waste the last chance we get at a populated, working from the start red server on a throwaway, not thought through teams server that starts bleeding players heavily from day 1. We already played in that movie in 2011-2013.

[Duvain]

I'd prefer another red starting with the current ruleset as well, but i'll take whatever i can get.

[Gustoo]

More crucially, things like what do you do if one of the faction has 2 strong guilds like seal team on green, the other 2 factions get discouraged and start losing numbers, and it just spirals downward like that. At least in FFA teams can get shuffled, you dont feel like youve wasted time on your char because of that, might hop on the pve zerg train to experience zones, etc... on teams its all locked in.


Something custom to enhance the losing teams chances

Then if they continue to tank, declare one team victor and rename the server “West Server” or “East Server” for the rest of server history and the server becomes Tallis
Zek rules or it’s really over and it becomes the custom r99 ruleset we have today.

[starkind]

I would settle for teams or anything to attract blueberries to come and pvp instead of /random for FTEs

[Jibartik]

build FV item ruleset and teams pvp and the people will come...

[starkind]

Ya I dig that! Make mischief randomizing too. Or diablo ii style loot tables with classic stats and a mix of more weapons and armor stat types.

[Tradesonred]

Something custom to enhance the losing teams chances

Then if they continue to tank, declare one team victor and rename the server “West Server” or “East Server” for the rest of server history and the server becomes Tallis
Zek rules or it’s really over and it becomes the custom r99 ruleset we have today.

I mean im only against teams if things like this arent discussed and thought about beforehand. I would actually enjoy more a well thought-out teams server because ive never played that and im sure it would be alot of fun. But between a no-thoughts-given-flick-on-the-switch-and-forget-about-it teams server and a FFA server that doesnt need any thought beforehand, easy choice.

[Gustoo]

I'm just saying, eventually there is a likelihood that one team will win and the chances of some other people coming to contest them becomes essentially zero. At that point, the server is won by them and gains their name and it becomes an FFA server, preferably with item loot rules but if its about to be abandonware it just gets merged to red 1.0 which becomes named RED WEST or RED EAST which is their prize for victory. Red 1.0 people can't complain cuz there is only 50 active and the name of the server should be of no consequence to the retired players.

[Stasis01]

Teams pls so I might be able to get in a fucking guild.

[Old_PVP]

TEAMS with perhaps the /guildwar function enabled? This could allow guilds to go rogue and turn on their own team. Certain obvious measures would need to be implemented to stop people from abusing the system. For example, once /guildwar is declared, members cannot de-guild or leave to avoid retribution for a certain length of time, etc. This would also help solve the problem of 1 team gaining supreme dominance. Think on it my fellow reds.


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[christmas_ham69]

nice armchair thread but you will never get a new server (LOL)

[Zemgus]

I love when people start accusing each other of being spies in a red guild voip.

[trusken]

SZ ruleset