There actually is money to be made fixing mental illness and homeless.

[starkind]

Fixing homelessness often means fixing mental illness, and since there's no money to be made fixing the homeless population's mental illness nobody will do it.

Mental illness and homelessless costs americans BILLIONS (honestly I feelthink double that number)

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/mental-disorders-cost-society-billions-unearned-income

and that is just in taxable income

let alone the emergency services and murders and stuff it all flowers out it probably costs us more than the entire military industrial complex

i would love to dig up a better spreadsheet

but I know alone - and i'm just mentally ill not homeless yet - have costed Americans at least ~2.5 million in grift towards the VA and hospitals and police and blah -- now whether thats worth my 4 years of service and and 16 years of paying social security and shit - and buying crap from walmart I don't know.

I know some people who have costed you much more and are on full disability (if i was on full disability (I should be) I would be costing you guys a lot more and also have medicaid and probably have done several more surgeries by now. I'm not that much of a grifter and honestly i'm kinda too disabled to get on the queue at the lawyers office so you guys just thank yourselves that I'm not out there during J6's trying to flamethrower politicians (hypotheticallY) (I WOULD NEVER DO THAT, I tried killing myself several times first)...

anyway ---

homelessness and mental illnesss is a net loss on the:
Economy
QoL of Citizens
Tourism
Productivity
Child Safety
NOT SPREADING HEPATISIS ABC&D Syphallis AND AIDS and TB and worms and other wierd fucking shit.
etc...

The people being hurt by homelessneess and mental illness is not the politicians or CEOs --- that is why it's not getting fixed.

I really do hope this helps. Just operating at the best of my abilities to sorta straighten this out---

so in essense you're right Mr. Sparkles. Not for entirely the right reasons tho. You're right it's not profitable --- it's not profitable to the RIGHT people.

We should be having a revolution. Right now. I don't want you to go out and kill dumb kids tho. So I AM NOT CALLING FOR VIOLENCE. However we should maybe take the power away from the politicians and CEO's and stop letting them be fenced in by the military and police industrial complex and CIA, NSA, FDA, USDA, DEA, HHS, etc etc etc etc.

That said being mentally ill doesn't mean ppl are unwise or stupid or bad ppl. Some of us are very wise - we just EXPLODE when we try to move towards the goals EVERYONE SHOULD BE MOVING TOWARDS --- because

there are a LOT OF REALLY REALLY REALLY (3 reallies) BAD PPL OUT THERE and the POLICE and MILITARY god bless them are standing between US and the BAD PPL (most of them not even really intentionally or aware). I wish they where on OUR SIDE instead.

--- anyway the drugs psychiatrists push just kill ppl --- or chemically lobotimize them --- or drive them to commit mass murder

They aren't really effective or safe

and it's actually most of society that is insane because they don't want to be warrior cast and are little bitches (sorry for the sexist word buy me a better one plz) -- so they push the murdering off onto other ppl and police politicians and the military like little fucking bastard cowards with no HONOR.

I'll come back and sound cloud this in a calm voice maybe one day just so u don't have to actually try to read it.

[Nibblewitz]

I thought Planned Parenthood was tasked with this initiative.

[robayon]

What I fear about using the profit motive to fix problems like this is that eventually it just turns into The Purge, since we all know that's what conservatives actually want to do with all of the disabled folks, mentally ill folks, and homeless people

But within our capitalist nightmare factory the profit motive may be the only way it ever gets addressed at all

[starkind]

I thought Planned Parenthood was tasked with this initiative.

They very clearly shouldn't be and that is really fucked up ppl expect them to.

What I fear about using the profit motive to fix problems like this is that eventually it just turns into The Purge, since we all know that's what conservatives actually want to do with all of the disabled folks, mentally ill folks, and homeless people

But within our capitalist nightmare factory the profit motive may be the only way it ever gets addressed at all

It will wind up in a purge because people aren't moral or honoroable and we condition them not to be. There are a million ways to fix that but they all require some level of force restraint and loss of freedom and or violence AFAIK.

[MrSparkle001]

Who will pay for the treatments and the experts? People will not be doing that work en masse out of the goodness of their hearts in order to combat homelessness. We are not that kind of species.

Whether there is a tangible benefit to society or an intangible benefit, someone needs to pay for it all.

[starkind]

Who will pay for the treatments and the experts? People will not be doing that work en masse out of the goodness of their hearts in order to combat homelessness. We are not that kind of species.

Whether there is a tangible benefit to society or an intangible benefit, someone needs to pay for it all.

You don't need experts.

You need a policed fenced in village were they live like they should be living not in the modern age will cellphones and drugs.

All you need is land and police.

And we need to start doing natural selection again v2 not keeping EVERYONE alive as long as possible regardless of the choices they make just because they have money. ---

we have in essense ALSO bread ourselves into weakness ---- GOD BLESS *them* I know someone who is 350 lb and does weed. thats probably too much info already --- they do not have to be, they won't put down the weed tho and they won't eat good food -- and they won't even journal what they are doing to gain any self awareness -- they see themselves as a 'victim' --- they aren't --- in a way their not ---

The weed is more important than a walk
The weed is more important than eating right
The weed is more important than a GYM membership
The weed is more important than fighting for workers rights

So they are in a lot of pain because they sit at a desk all day and are 350 lb so they "need the weed".

Almost all of their freetime is taken up with the TV
they neglect their mother who is dying.
They won't even bend down to wipe up the hair out the shower drain
They are promised their moms homestead.

WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE MENTALLY ILL??? Because they are too free. IMO. This is just one easy to grasp at and reach example, super ez mode one and they aren't even that mentally ill. They do compound the problem and enable the illness in society tho. They are in fact a cog in the insurance and health care industry.

================

THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE TRUE NATURE OF SUFFERING
================

WHY AM I THE ONE WHO MUST TEACH THEM?? I can't - I would go to jail. And it would be a waste because they would go right back to being dumb. We need to do this COLLECTIVELY. We need real consequences for people in the modern age who do not live right. It's not my right or place -- G-d Probably says something about this and I need to read more bible.

They where conditioned this way since childhood though. Nothing green will ever pass their lips and they will cost way more to the system than me --- granted they work and pay taxes more so maybe they will pay into the system enough for the way they are choosing to slowly poison and kill themselves ---

This person wants children.

I pray to g-d they get healthy first. I can't deny someone children. We should tho. Big candidate for steralization and working the fields.

https://i.imgur.com/XJ4LQsg.jpg

It is the only fuckin way

Working the earth, good wholesome food, working with your hands #1 cure to mental illness. It is the only fucking way. X that with Bushido warrior code and you have the makings of one of the strongest societies on earth.

Anyway that's the lowest hanging fruit for you to reach at --- god bless. 🍎🐍
This is the best I can do today.

[MrSparkle001]

Are you suggesting they round up the homeless in like San Francisco and Oakland and make them work as farmers somewhere?

[starkind]

Are you suggesting they round up the homeless in like San Francisco and Oakland and make them work as farmers somewhere?

I'm suggesting they round up anyone mentally ill or crazy or on drugs regardless of income and property ownership. Take their property away and give them the opportunity to live by caring for themselves, their land, and eachother. Give all men forced vasectomies. Sorta like monasteries and nunneries. Sex isn't allowed unless you are married.

Almost every lying politician and big global CEO would qualify.

If they don't work they get put in an infirmary and given healthy food. Mandatory exercise. No other privileges though.

If they are violent or hurt someone else they go to prison in isolation and given drugs to calm them down and comfort them until they die of natural causes.

I would segregate people by sex, criminal history and drug use.

Pathological liars probably should just go straight to the prison infirmaries. I suppose they deserve a chance in the tier 3 systems.

The homeless and clean who are just unfortunate get tier 1 treatment and have the easiest time re-earning some privileges.

Church or Temple is mandatory. There will be a list of approved denominations as volunteer pastors or Rabbi or yogi or immam or whatever bhudists and shinto do.. are available.

Yes a lot of people will kill themselves. We can only do our best to save them and help them not also kill others tho. We can't actually stop people from hurting themselves and others. Just help them have the opportunity not to and heal.

[Jibartik]

The correct solution is to build wonka factories. I mean hospitals.

[starkind]

The correct solution is to build wonka factories. I mean hospitals.

Those are the infirmeries x good food x exercise and temple privileges maybe.

Maybe calming music and biblical stories from ppl too if privilege granted.

And if lucky and you wean yourself off drugs (not everyone is on drugs or needs them to be calm), or can be proven trustworthy you get to do some simple mostly safe hand work, supervised. Like pottery. Or weaving or walking and planting seeds. Stuff like that. Cleaning. Washing. Sleeping. Maybe if you're really good you can graduate to helping with other patients b4 you go back to the basic farm, monastery tier. From there maybe you can work your way towards clerical stuff. Or courier duty.

You only get 1 strike tho if you break the rules and betray any trust placed in you.. it's probably prison infirmary x mandatory calming drugs forever. Maybe there could be a really challenging appeal process. Probably not tho.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

What I fear about using the profit motive to fix problems like this is that eventually it just turns into The Purge, since we all know that's what conservatives actually want to do with all of the disabled folks, mentally ill folks, and homeless people

But within our capitalist nightmare factory the profit motive may be the only way it ever gets addressed at all

Nonsense. You have no evidence to suggest this. Democrats are doing the purge right now though with babies:)

[Jibartik]

he's got you there!

We have a very robust system in america to prevent that from happening, but instead of using it, we just shut everything down because we read a post modern book called one flew over the cookcooks nest, which was really about a criminal abusing the system but we didnt catch that in 7th grade where they brainwashed kids and force them to read these challenging subjects and only go icing deep on the cake that they are when they discuss them.

Nuke power is another great example, we'd have the cleanest power that we could ever imagine if we kept using that, but we shut it down because of a JANE FONDA movie.

[starkind]

he's got you there!

We have a very robust system in america to prevent that from happening, but instead of using it, we just shut everything down because we read a post modern book called one flew over the cookcooks nest, which was really about a criminal abusing the system but we didnt catch that in 7th grade where they brainwashed kids and force them to read these challenging subjects and only go icing deep on the cake that they are when they discuss them.

Nuke power is another great example, we'd have the cleanest power that we could ever imagine if we kept using that, but we shut it down because of a JANE FONDA movie.
*Unironic.

https://i.imgur.com/r0CQCIb.gif

[MrSparkle001]

he's got you there!

We have a very robust system in america to prevent that from happening, but instead of using it, we just shut everything down because we read a post modern book called one flew over the cookcooks nest, which was really about a criminal abusing the system but we didnt catch that in 7th grade where they brainwashed kids and force them to read these challenging subjects and only go icing deep on the cake that they are when they discuss them.

Nuke power is another great example, we'd have the cleanest power that we could ever imagine if we kept using that, but we shut it down because of a JANE FONDA movie.

And Chernobyl and Three Mile Island, but I do agree we need nuclear power now more than ever, especially if these electric vehicles become as common as gasoline vehicles. We don't have the power and infrastructure to support an electric vehicle surge.

[Jibartik]

Well those were factors, but what really sealed the deal was the hit movie.

This is a true story.

I mean you and I know both that if you had to chose, what is more influential to an american: movies or foriegn events

you and I both know it's always and always will be movies :o

But it was basically immediately after the china syndrome all major legislation would finally pass.

Chernobyl got all the smart folks to decide, but those only make up like 9% of the pop.

[starkind]

And Chernobyl and Three Mile Island, but I do agree we need nuclear power now more than ever, especially if these electric vehicles become as common as gasoline vehicles. We don't have the power and infrastructure to support an electric vehicle surge.
Those were pretty bad we can do it much better now tho.

Also still not as bad as coal power. I got a few videos queued about nuclear storage and waste management..it doesn't need to be that hard.

[Jibartik]

well chernobyl was because of something we didnt understand, like they were pretty new to the idea of generating power like that, and so their streamlined system didnt work.

I guess one could argue that if we had not stopped developing N power, then we'd have the same thing happen today, but with a power plant that was trying to generate a sun the size of a basketball, and then 90% of the planet would disappear.

But china is going to do that anyway (like Russia did with Chernobyl).

https://i.imgur.com/yI6T7t8.png

Also after the events of cherynobl could you imagine being a ukrainian and being like, lets go back to the soviets lol no wonder they all ready to die first.

[Reiwa]

I mean you and I know both that if you had to chose, what is more influential to an american: movies or foriegn events

you and I both know it's always and always will be movies :o


Thanos turned half of all internet goobers into ecofascists. :p

[robayon]

Nonsense. You have no evidence to suggest this. Democrats are doing the purge right now though with babies:)Democrats are conservatives to me, friend

[Reiwa]

Democrats are conservatives to me, friend

Salutations strange visitor from Tralfamadore.

[unsunghero]

Skimmed it because I’m about to go on a hike, and I don’t think it would ever fly in America

America is big on freedoms and forcing someone to live where you want them to live (putting all other things aside) is never going to happen. Organizations like the ACLU would whine and say you are criminalizing homelessness, and no matter how nice the setting, the ACLU would call it concentration camps or internment camps to be provocative. Liberal lawyers would sue, and whatever law or policy was put in place to create your system would be overturned

The only chance you might have is only going after the homeless that commit serious crimes, since then judges would be slightly more willing to take away their freedom as a penalty

America is never going to stop embracing allowing people to slowly kill themselves with hard drugs in the street. Take comfort that as long as you can keep a healthy routine and a social support system it won’t happen to you

[Jibartik]

Romney/Cheney 2024 democrat ticket

[robayon]

Salutations strange visitor from Tralfamadore.I recognize that this is a Vonnegut thing but I read Slaughterhouse Five way back in high school so I do not get this joke/reference

[starkind]

Ya TLDR I'm like Gileadean. Esque. I'm pretty cool with other religions. Not very cool with amorality. Or greed. Or selfishness. Those aren't foundations we can ever build on. In this way I'm pretty traditionally conservative. No escaping that even if about a 3rd of my compatriots think I should kill myself and am an abomination. Passed through the eye of that needle once or twice already.

Tho I do believe in equality and females should have every opportunity males do. And vice versa. We just shouldn't lower our standards or expectations for anyone. No one deserves an excuse from doing the right thing. Which amounts to being honorable and collectively conciousness. Aware of thyself and others and the impact you have, alone and collectively on the world.

It is time for humanity to grow up or die. And I am genuinely sad about how painful that will be for many of you.

However, it is time to face this challenge with every shred of dignity, integrity, discipline, and honor we can muster. Collectively or individually. There is no more room for just seeking pleasure or happiness. True happiness and pleasure comes when you can set aside your immediate desires in order to achieve something greater than your own life can accomplish with others. Humans are a collective species and to die, rot, and stagnate in pure individualistic narcissism and solipsis is a death of the human soul and spirit.

[Jibartik]

Everyone should get basic income, but work in a wonka type factory.

[starkind]

Skimmed it because I’m about to go on a hike, and I don’t think it would ever fly in America

America is big on freedoms and forcing someone to live where you want them to live (putting all other things aside) is never going to happen. Organizations like the ACLU would whine and say you are criminalizing homelessness, and no matter how nice the setting, the ACLU would call it concentration camps or internment camps to be provocative. Liberal lawyers would sue, and whatever law or policy was put in place to create your system would be overturned

The only chance you might have is only going after the homeless that commit serious crimes, since then judges would be slightly more willing to take away their freedom as a penalty

America is never going to stop embracing allowing people to slowly kill themselves with hard drugs in the street. Take comfort that as long as you can keep a healthy routine and a social support system it won’t happen to you

Good post.

Hope ur hike is truly awesome!

[Reiwa]

I recognize that this is a Vonnegut thing but I read Slaughterhouse Five way back in high school so I do not get this joke/reference

Calling you a extraterrestial alien I think.

[starkind]

Tralfamadore.
https://i.imgur.com/ZVetiTg.jpeg

[Reiwa]

Skimmed it because I’m about to go on a hike, and I don’t think it would ever fly in America

America is big on freedoms and forcing someone to live where you want them to live (putting all other things aside) is never going to happen. Organizations like the ACLU would whine and say you are criminalizing homelessness, and no matter how nice the setting, the ACLU would call it concentration camps or internment camps to be provocative. Liberal lawyers would sue, and whatever law or policy was put in place to create your system would be overturned

The only chance you might have is only going after the homeless that commit serious crimes, since then judges would be slightly more willing to take away their freedom as a penalty

America is never going to stop embracing allowing people to slowly kill themselves with hard drugs in the street. Take comfort that as long as you can keep a healthy routine and a social support system it won’t happen to you

https://i.imgur.com/xheAfNT.jpg

[Jibartik]

we're all characters in this video which one ru im wearing a hat.

1AmOqQOOPn8

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Democrats are conservatives to me, friend


That doesn't really make sense, since the current abortion push is a progressive idea. Keeping abortion limited or illegal is the conservative view.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/xheAfNT.jpg

Thats fine when you don't shit on the street and drive your car into 50 people.

Supporting Nestlé corp n MacBlyats does tho.

The problem isn't having the freedom necessarily. It's moved beyond that into it's muhhhh right oh and btw you must support me and my family while I do this. Also if I'm abusive you can't kill or hurt or stop me.

It's creating a degenerative slime that is slowly devouring civilization and has now worked itself up into most political bodies and corporate institutions.

So.

Sure. You want to lay in bed in infirmary. Fine. You get no land and no rights and you eat what is given. Game over. The exercise yard is over there 👉

If you start screaming or punching or spitting you get 💉💺➰🧥🛌🏩

[starkind]

we're all characters in this video which one ru im wearing a hat.

1AmOqQOOPn8

Demons vs devils. I didn't see myself in that video only made it 10 minutes in until the prostitutes swarmed.

Basically all of these ppl are mentally ill except maybe the Christian singing near the end the no Satan metal thing.

[robayon]

That doesn't really make sense, since the current abortion push is a progressive idea. Keeping abortion limited or illegal is the conservative view.It makes sense when you realize that America is a one party state and most of the bickering between what we might call the two parties is a dog and pony show specifically meant to keep us divided and fighting one another rather than our true oppressors

Sure, they might bicker about social issues and I will generally agree with the Democrats on most of those, but the end result is still acheived either way: a subjugated population

Partisan gridlock is a feature, it protects the status quo as the nation lurches further and further to the right with the future goal of creating fortress America as the climate crumbles

[Horza]

That doesn't really make sense, since the current abortion push is a progressive idea. Keeping abortion limited or illegal is the conservative view.

The unwillingness of conservative Democrats like Manchin and Sinema to break the filibuster is the only thing preventing women's right to abortion from being codified into law, paste eating retard.

[robayon]

The unwillingness of conservative Democrats like Manchin and Sinema to break the filibuster is the only thing preventing women's right to abortion from being codified into law, paste eating retard.Makes you wonder why they didn't do it in 2009

[Horza]

It's almost like Democratic voters are overwhelmingly centrist fools and hardly the progressive socialist bloc depicted on Fox News.

[Trexller]

It's almost like Democratic voters are overwhelmingly centrist fools and hardly the progressive socialist bloc depicted on Fox News.

is there anyone that you do like?

you're running out of various groups to hate on

[Horza]

is there anyone that you do like?

you're running out of various groups to hate on

Your messianic figure says entire ethnic groups are rapists and drug dealers, and you retards eat that shit up. Don't lecture me about hate just because I like to wag my finger at finance bros.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It makes sense when you realize that America is a one party state and most of the bickering between what we might call the two parties is a dog and pony show specifically meant to keep us divided and fighting one another rather than our true oppressors

Sure, they might bicker about social issues and I will generally agree with the Democrats on most of those, but the end result is still acheived either way: a subjugated population

Partisan gridlock is a feature, it protects the status quo as the nation lurches further and further to the right with the future goal of creating fortress America as the climate crumbles

Conservatism means the tendency to conserve what existed before. You point doesn't make sense because you are assuming the conservation started at whichever point you deem America becoming a one party state. Aversion to abortion was around since the founding of America.

The unwillingness of conservative Democrats like Manchin and Sinema to break the filibuster is the only thing preventing women's right to abortion from being codified into law, paste eating retard.

The filibuster is good. Prevents Progressives from passing paste eating laws.

[robayon]

It's almost like Democratic voters are overwhelmingly centrist fools and hardly the progressive socialist bloc depicted on Fox News.dont sweat it dude the centrists got this one nailed down

[starkind]

dont sweat it dude the centrists got this one nailed down

Those people scare the ever luvin shit outta me. Yes I'm a coward in this way.

[Jibartik]

It's not centrist, it's establishment.

Like the thing rage against the machine was against.

Democrats are totally for that now.

Centrist = establishment = pearl clutching wealth concentration = fear = xenaphobia = etc = used to define republican now it defines democrat

[Horza]

Jib's referencing Rage Against the Machine in his argument for installing a billionaire as president for life.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

dont sweat it dude the centrists got this one nailed down

I think everybody here can at least agree that those people have a healthy diet of paste going lol.

[robayon]

I think everybody here can at least agree that those people have a healthy diet of paste going lol.i sincerely hope it's photoshopped but then i remembered that there was a scream at the sky gathering when trump first got elected

[Reiwa]

The filibuster is good. Prevents Progressives from passing paste eating laws.

Yes but no u. The filibuster protects us from both extremes and is a very special boy.

[unsunghero]

I think everybody here can at least agree that those people have a healthy diet of paste going lol.

I think the abortion uses horse ulcer remover, or so I heard

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Yes but no u. The filibuster protects us from both extremes and is a very special boy.

Agreed, that is what the Filibuster is designed to do.

[Jibartik]

Jib's referencing Rage Against the Machine in his argument for installing a billionaire as president for life.

So you're saying he's a billionaire.

[Kaveh]

dont sweat it dude the centrists got this one nailed down

Hahaha just go bomb something dude you know you want to be Kurdish real bad

Take down everything you disagree with violently! That’ll show those mean republicans!

[Kaveh]

The unwillingness of conservative Democrats like Manchin and Sinema to break the filibuster is the only thing preventing women's right to abortion from being codified into law, paste eating retard.

And it would be gone in jan of ‘23 once GOP retakes the senate. I do agree that he’s wrong about Dems being leftists though

[robayon]

Hahaha just go bomb something dude you know you want to be Kurdish real bad

Take down everything you disagree with violently! That’ll show those mean republicans!It's a tik tok post. Calm the hell down. Let me know when centrism isn't just conservatism with more pouty lips

[Kaveh]

It's a tik tok post. Calm the hell down. Let me know when centrism isn't just conservatism with more pouty lips

Probably true. I’m pretty conservative, just not obese or vengeful. Is that what centrism is?

[starkind]

Just incase we get runners! 🏃*♂️ 🏃*♀️ problem already solved!

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