New thread where we repeat the same shit over and over

[Tradesonred]

You dig?

[Gustoo]

Sounds like a good idea

[Jimjam]

Aw yis!

I want to see a ‘donatometer’ which fills up as donations for red come in. Once the threshold is reached gean uses the funds to buy a physical red server ... or a new green server, idk it’s his (well, the projects) money at that point.

[starkind]

Aw yis!

I want to see a ‘donatometer’ which fills up as donations for red come in. Once the threshold is reached gean uses the funds to buy a physical red server ... or a new green server, idk it’s his (well, the projects) money at that point.
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[Tradesonred]

I think xp loss in pvp fucked up the server real bad during the first 1.5 years, did i ever mention it?

[Gustoo]

No, first time I've heard that valuable insight. You should make this thread in the discord channel since it seems like that is where our venerable staff are more likely to participate.

Did I ever mention that item loot encourages a different, higher engagement style of play that results in a more enjoyable playing experience while leveling up?

The important thing is not to approach the game as if being level 50 or level 60 is the whole point of it.

Or that even barring a new progression server, a ruleset change to red 1.0 could still be a huge step up.

[Jibartik]

FV item rules + Rallos Zek pvp rules + teams

[Jimjam]

The important thing is not to approach the game as if being level 50 or level 60 is the whole point of it.

Or that even barring a new progression server, a ruleset change to red 1.0 could still be a huge step up.

Not the first time I’ve mentioned it, but everyone waxes lyrical about low level pvp in crushbone nostalgia, so i think a server where that is more or less endgame is ideal. Usually as faydwer only, level 39 cap, but honestly we could cut out mistmoore and maybe even unrest/cauldron too and have the game just low level fays fighting over orcs in the forests, the mountains and of course cb. Adjust level (or xp?) cap appropriately.

[Old_PVP]

FV item rules + Rallos Zek pvp rules + teams

https://i.imgur.com/MAsPro0.gif

[Gustoo]

I think progression is essential to making a mix of goals come into play.

Then, weirdos that like to pvp at lower levels simply stay at low level, and everyone else does their thing., which is why item loot servers are the best. There will always be twinks, which means there will always be people worth hunting at low levels, provided item loot is enabled. Killing nakeds / noobs is the past time for a small small subset of psychopaths, and those psychopaths would in turn be targeted by other item-oriented PK's which would control the psychopaths desire to murder noob players. If noob-slayer is getting himself low mana due to noob slaughtering he is open to being killed by someone hunting gear.

If noob slayer himself is low gear, he is easy to kill, and will just be a sort of zone-nuisance which is totally acceptable.

And that is why anti-training rules I think are essential. If random gnome wizard PK guy is always training everyone in crushbone just to waste their time, its kinda stupid. A pick up group of noobs can't be expected to implement zone control PVP tactics to prevent this.

So training should only be enabled in high level zones and in the PVP hotspot deathpit where manastone is dropping or whatever.

One customization would be scrutinizing what items are droppable and what items are no drop to keep it "balanced" in that way. Seeking no-drop gear was a fun part of rallos zek.

[Jibartik]

One customization would be scrutinizing what items are droppable and what items are no drop to keep it "balanced" in that way. Seeking no-drop gear was a fun part of rallos zek.

I agree, it was a fun stat to min max, however it gives advantage to the top tear raiding guild in pvp. At least if its all droppable then you can get that raid gear, with only being a gank squad. So the rebel's have a better chance at taking down the king.

FV has a very good spread of what should be no drop v droppable too, like some quest items and like rallos equpable items (and epics) are not tradable. So I think just using that as a guide is good.

I also think FV rulest is very fun, and everyone should experience it at least once! So it'd be fun to do on P99. Ive never done it on PVP and I think that'd be wild!

[Jimjam]

I forgot about the changes to dropability on fv - i mainly remembered the languages. Would make a good modifier to the rz rule set.

[Gustoo]

I am not a fan of training at all, but what I really don't like is the idea that GM's have to be involved whenever high level pvp happens because of significant lawyerquesting. Thats why raid zones and the rotating PVP hot zone with rare drops are no holds barred deathpits.

I also don't think there can be any loot and scoot policy except by simple player good sportsmanship. I think it is important that the workload on the staff is minimized and to remove the key strategy element of complaining to staff members whenever anything bad happens at level 60. Basically any target that requires a group + to kill at level 60 is going to be raid rules enabled meaning the only offenses are 3rd party software and 2 boxing and I guess known game mechanics exploits. Corpse, bind, and teleport location camping will be essential raid activities when an enemy team of ill repute is looking to thwart attempts.

You can use rangers like linebackers scouring nearby zones to kill naked enemies which they would be perfect at in most cases, defending the raid. Basically you get your awesome PVP marauder team to keep the zone safe. This is assuming we get another Holocaust / Nihilum pure hatred situation going which would be kinda lame. It would be better if there were multiple amicable anti PK style guilds at the top this time around rather than basically everyone is a bad guy no community style. The item loot dynamic I think would enforce more player relationships because people that wanna be thieves will attack you at low HP and steal stuff and just be permabanned from all good guy guilds forever.

Dispells on targets, pick pocketing anything, all real game mechanics are enabled everywhere at all times. Custom mechanic for text message about pick pocket attempts (each attempt triggers a roll whether or not to announce the attempt to PC's, like a critical failure)

At max pick pocket there should still be a 20% or 10% chance of announce pick pocket attempt.

Any other stupid shit people get in trouble for that needs to be addressed?

edit- another customization is that item loot transactions are announced publicly zone wide and also directly announced to the player that is being looted. This is to make player enforced accountability more transparent so there isn't trump era "I didn't loot a thing, the victim is to blame here" claims. Regular item trades are announced publically in /say so players need to be nearby to see what happened, just like real life.

[Tradesonred]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8xA-bOXOo&t=1m16s

[Gustoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8xA-bOXOo&t=1m16s

beautiful clip wish rogean was posting it.

[Jibartik]

Great movie. So close to be one of the greatest. But still a great movie.

[christmas_ham69]

Nice thread to armchair about a server that will never happen.

OP feels personally attacked when i say you will never get a new server. HAH

[Tradesonred]

Nice thread to armchair about a server that will never happen.

OP feels personally attacked when i say you will never get a new server. HAH

Thank you for staying on topic and saying the same shit over and over, tassaham

[Tradesonred]

Imagine this guy working his ass off for months to raise the primetime pop from 50 to 90 only for rogean to announce out of the blue his server is dead lol. Thats what i mean by right now the radio silence is disrespectful not to toxic players but to players like him

Yeah, we have a discord group text that I appropriately labeled PLG: Power Level Group
I am just trying to properly coordinate on days that I can help players level and days those players are actually available.
When I reached out on facebook, I actually got quite a few respondents, and our group is up to 6 members. Most player said they are from US EST, and I actually have another player from france so, it has been a challenging endeavor I took upon myself to coordinate all of this.

Today is another day which I am kind of bored and I wish I had something planned in game for later tonight about 7PM PST? but I can always work on solo projects as well.

It's fun helping new players though and getting involved with the community. I always hoped that by hyping the project 1999 red community that I could host a PVP tournament sometime this summer, but someday.

I have plans too to get out in the sunshine, and I'm having fun and content with what I am doing right now.