To kick or not to kick?

[Philistine]

Hi folks!

Quick question: while main tanking a raid or raid-esque mob (ie, Vindi), do you kick? My baby warrior is (kinda sorta) approaching Level 60, and I'm curious for your input on whether kicking is worth the risk of a big riposte? To me it seems like it wouldn't be?

Thanks all!

[Jimjam]

I generally try to avoid kicking when tanking 55+ mobs, also giants and dragonkins generally (basically stun immune things that can hit hard).

The exception is if a terrible spell is being cast, as I believe kick has a better chance to interrupt on hit than a normal hit (and defiantly better than not kicking at all!)

TBH I haven't given it a terrible amount of thought and look forward to seeing other posters responses.

[Loadsamoney]

Isn't Kick just free damage? Unless you're using it as a spell interrupt, why wouldn't you burn it at all times the second it comes off of cooldown?

[Jimjam]

Because some of the mobs you fight as a 60 warrior can riposte it for 700 damage.

[Jibartik]

This fuckn game amiright?

[enjchanter]

The alternative is you can stand there with your hands off the keyboard auto attacking so why not

[Philistine]

Because some of the mobs you fight as a 60 warrior can riposte it for 700 damage.

Yes! This is exactly my concern. I haven't parsed it but I guestimate kick is worth 1-3ish dps , which is nothing to sneeze at considering the lengths we go to to upgrade our weapons by a similar amount.

On the one hand, I want all the white damage (aka threat) I can muster, but on the other hand I don't want to introduce an additional opportunity for Mr. Vindi to thwack my squishy self for another 700.

[bobjonesp99]

kick is nowhere near 3 dps. its like 0.3 dps.

[Philistine]

kick is nowhere near 3 dps. its like 0.3 dps.

Good to know, thanks! I had figured 10-20 per kick per cooldown plus some misses, but I was probably under estimating the number of misses.

Do you kick while raid tanking?

[bobjonesp99]

generally i dont; but i checked for logs where i have and i had no joke 0.3 dps. kicks do like 10 damage when they land and are on like a 6 second cooldown.

[Philistine]

generally i dont; but i checked for logs where i have and i had no joke 0.3 dps. kicks do like 10 damage when they land and are on like a 6 second cooldown.

Well that's great to know, thanks! Sounds like I'll resist hitting that kick button like I've done thousands of times over the course of leveling!

[Arvan]

I generally try to avoid kicking when tanking 55+ mobs, also giants and dragonkins generally (basically stun immune things that can hit hard).

The exception is if a terrible spell is being cast, as I believe kick has a better chance to interrupt on hit than a normal hit (and defiantly better than not kicking at all!)

TBH I haven't given it a terrible amount of thought and look forward to seeing other posters responses.

thats correct warrior kick stuns at lvl 55+ its great for interrupting non raid boss non stun immune spellcasters

large race i think its better to use slam as i think that goes off bash skill which has a higher skill cap than kick and also stuns from lvl 1+

and yeah you prob shouldn't kick or slam a raid boss unless you are outside of the riposte arc

[Toxigen]

The alternative is you can stand there with your hands off the keyboard auto attacking so why not

lol

[socialist]

Kick is completely worthless outside of interrupting casts, so if that's not a concern, it isn't worth doing. The damage is so low that it won't ever make any difference whatsoever, it generates no meaningful aggro, and it carries the risk of an untimely riposte.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If snakes can figure out how to kick when it is biologically impossible, then there must be SOME good reason to kick.

[Naethyn]

Kick interrupts spells after 55. If I lose aggro I immediately Taunt and then press Kick. Taunt brings me to equal aggro as highest, Kick gives me a few extra on top. Kick at 60 on raid targets can be as much as 5-7 dps. (a ton)

[Naethyn]

Crippling blow kicks is a thing.

[Raj]

Yes always kick the warrior from the exp group if you cant find friendly and helpful allies to orchestrate a tragic "tank down!" Situation.

I hope this answered your inquiry my friend.

[Naethyn]

Also, always shoot your arrows same applies.

[Raj]

For the record, my 2 posts above in this thread were absurd parodies! Apologies if anyone thought I was being serious about disliking rangers and warriors :cool:

I actually love grouping with good rangers and warriors - and I have had the pleasure of grouping with lots of them! This was during classic era in 2000-2004 as well as on Blue99, Green99, & Aradune TLP. :cool:

I leveled a couple wood-elf rangers to pretty high levels on both Aradune TLP and on Blue99. Rangering can be alot of fun and also helpful! :cool:

[eisley]

Kick seems to have a very low riposte rate? But I can't seem to get it over 0.4 dps.

[Allishia]

I always kick and disarm things /nod