Siren Song, Dagger of the Sea

[luneigh]

Proc on dagger.

From Wiki:
Duration 2.5 minutes
Cast on You The fury of the deep sea fills your arms.


From log:
Duration 18 seconds
[Sun Feb 06 13:07:00 2022] The fury of the deep see fills your arms.
[Sun Feb 06 13:07:19 2022] Your fury of the sea fades.

Also, spelling on proc effect is spelled see not sea.

[Ennewi]

Also, spelling on proc effect is spelled see not sea.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5857

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#Jun 12 2001 at 5:35 AM
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Other than the epic, are there any bard-only slashers in the game? i'm kinda getting tired of all these piercers. BTW, verant misspelled the spell -it should be, "Seas," or "Sea," but not "Sea's." =)
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#Aug 18 2001 at 2:59 PMRating: Sub-Default
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Ummm Who cares about the spelling? And yes they spelled it correctly. Seas is a proper word a name. ' S E A ' S is the plural and correct usage of this word.

Of all the sea's in this world you had to drown in mine.

Two weeks of reading various posts in this forum and out of 20, i might see one useful one. Take your freaking flame fests to the teen chat room if you have no useful information to post. Opinions are for watchers, not for people of action. =(
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#Aug 18 2001 at 4:41 PMRating: Decent
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SEA'S is not the plural form of SEA, 's implies ownership of something. For example, "itis the bard's dagger" in this sentence, the 's shows that the bard owns the dagger. Just though a little grammer lesson wouldn't hurt anybody.
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#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 27 2002 at 12:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wth is this, an english lesson? I did my time in high school, enough of that pls...

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#May 09 2001 at 4:48 PM
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The effect is:

Song of the Deep Sea's
Increase Agility by 30 (L1)
Increase Attack Speed by 60% (L1)
Increase Armor Class (AC) by 15 (L1)
Increase Strength by 30 (L1)

[Ennewi]

https://www.angelfire.com/games3/EverTry/Weapons/pierce/sirensong.html

Though it seems that typo only applied to the buff/listed effect and not the resulting blue text.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/rawspell.html?spell=1973

castmsg3 The fury of the deep sea fills your arms.
castmsg5 Your fury of the sea fades.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/rawspell.html?spell=1973

durationtext 2.5 mins

[luneigh]

Blue text is defiantly 'see' and timer is normal bard song time.

[Gorbok]

luneigh is referring to the proc effect message. In game, it definitely says "sees" instead of "seas". I'm trying to find it, but I think that this is a classic typo. So far, I can't seem to dig up where I read that.

And not to divert too strongly from OP's real topic but:

As far as the text on the item icon goes, seems like it was "Song of the Deep Seas" until it was upgraded: http://web.archive.org/web/20020723035852im_/http://eqdiva.com/images/stats/imgStatsSirenSong.jpg

Then after the late 2001 upgrade, they mistakenly added "Sea's": https://web.archive.org/web/20020424125052im_/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/equipment/graphics16/siren_song.jpg

[Gorbok]

Found it: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20030313.html

March 2003 Patch: Song of the Deep Seas now says: "The fury of the deep sea fills your arms" when sung (changed "see" to "sea").

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I actually think the entire proc is wrong, though.

Pre 2002, I think it should be this: https://web.archive.org/web/20020228140425/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1755

See history of changes to the proc: https://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1973&source=Live&setcookie=1

2002-12-12 11:18 Changed 'Cast on you' message from "You feel your pulse quicken." to "The fury of the deep see fills your arms."

[luneigh]

I was more concerned with the proc only being 3 ticks instead of 2.5 min. The spelling I noticed just cause I couldn't get gina trigger to work.

[Ennewi]

Earliest entry from EQDiva (no apostrophe): June 20, 2001 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010620113222/http://www.eqdiva.com/items.asp?item=68&type=W)

Earliest entry from EQWADB (apostrophe): July 16, 2001 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010716094009/http://www.planeteverquest.com:80/eqwadb/detail.asp?ID=3877)


https://web.archive.org/web/20020123002518/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5857

Proc Reply... By: Eski,
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Posted @ Fri, Sep 21st 2:09 PM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
the proc is fixed now, works groupwide again. proc will 'stack' with the epic, but not the haste component, obviously...

weapon Reply... By: Elumino,
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Posted @ Sun, Sep 16th 10:52 AM 2001 Score: Decent[3.00]
hi i have and use this weapon. the effect does indeed stack with the epic effect though i heard it didnt once as it was broken , it is self only lasts the length of a song. those stats above seem about right , cept i havent noticed the agi/ac bonuses. guy who said too much agro , yes this weapon gives some agro , its really good and only a fool would not use this weapon because of a reason like that . well that or someone who has not descovered song of dawn. person that said switch out from primals , yes someone might do this its arguably better however avatar is a 6min spell and if you have ever seen primals in action you'll know of their large proc rate , making them very easy to switch out for proc and back to epic. personally i use this dagger and the epic , when im not using songs that i greatly need to raise with an instrument effect i often find myself procing the epic and putting it in offhand so the dagger is mainhand for more procs.

Elumino Tunetwister
Illuminati sancti - xeg

Why this is not better then epic. Reply... By: Anonymous
Posted @ Sat, Aug 18th 6:04 AM 2001 Score: Default[2.00]
Ok, so it has good stats... But the proc is not better then the proc on bard epic. Would you rather have a 55% haste (bard epic) that last 25 ticks (2.5 minutes), or would you rather have a weapon that is a 60% haste (dagger of the sea)
but only lasts 3 ticks (18 seconds)? Haste on the bard epic will become much more useful since you wont have to wait for it to proc every 18 sec. Also, if you wield these, the proc on this weapon should kick the epic haste off. -Think about it.

[luneigh]

Very intesting, thanks guys. It currently is a group buff and does stack with epic proc. Seems to just be the see and 3 tick duration.

[luneigh]

Do we think this is bug, or just an era thing? I wonder if nature’s melody is the same way, and if they will be changed.

[Ennewi]

The comment by Eski from Sept. 21st doesn't specify exactly what was fixed other than the proc effect being made groupwide and stacking with epic again, excluding the haste component. However, searching through patch notes from around the same time reveals more...


https://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2001-2.html


September 25, 2001 3:00 am
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** Spell Changes **

- We have removed the changes to bard song stacking that were made with
the recent emergency patch. We will be reviewing those changes for
possible update in a future patch.


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October 8, 2001
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*** Item Changes ***

- Increased the duration on Song of the Deep Seas (the proc on a bardic
weapon) dramatically.

[luneigh]

Great find Ennewi!
So maybe it will be changed with Chardok revamp. I'm not sure how blue one works.

Live Blue
Oct 2001 [58][59] Feb 2019 [60] Chardok mob revamp +48 mo
Oct 2001 [61][62] Sep 2019 [63] magic system changes [64], melee changes [65] +55 mo

[Ennewi]

For more information regarding the topic: https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250572

[Telin]

The buff duration is working as intended for Green's era. The duration increases with the Oct2001 patch.