Biden sets the stage for world war 2 v2: Merika vs the red terror

[Botten]

What if scenarios? lol dude wtf are you talking about? you're the one warmongering. have you not thought things thru if that actually does happen?

obviously if war breaks out with Russia we'd want that equipment. only a total knuckle dragging moron would think otherwise.

The problem with Brandon is he is not a leader. He is not a planner. He crippled US energy development and expanded Russia's

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-lifts-us-sanctions-on-major-russian-pipeline/ar-AAKaRHA



the pickle he is in right now is his own doin cuz of the weakness and incompetence he displayed in Afghanistan has emboldened everyone else and they carry much bigger sticks.

If we do end up goin to war with russia we're screwed. dems are so climate insane they'd kick and scream if we had to ramp up domestic oil production and biden wouldn't wanna piss off his crazy base, so he'd go to war with one hand tied behind his back against an energy rich country that he just handed a pipeline to. What an absolute moron to not plan for a scenario like this

nobody in the us wants to get into another war right now. especially over an insignificant country like Ukraine. instead of a war for oil we'd be goin to war for Hunter's bank account

yeah the whole page one of this thread paints my warmongering as I tell you alt right crazies screaming and are still crying about war to calm down.

And what's wrong with clean energy becoming cheaper while fossil fuel energy gets more expensive while less is supplied? (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/12/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-races-to-deploy-clean-energy-that-creates-jobs-and-lowers-costs/)

Again I am the one telling you that we are not going to war with Russian and your the one saying what ifs. And why do you care, why would it then hurt Trump's family business; after all Trump's own son said the family makes most of its cash from Russia. LOL. Oh know your poor Trump. (https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-said-money-pouring-in-from-russia-2018-2)

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[Jibartik]

Dude look at your opinion about that link. What are you an anti Russian biggot? What gives, you have a problem with people doing business with Russians?? God dam nI hate you demorats. I LOVE RUSSIA DUH ITS AWSEOM Russians are awesome, they have great video games and all this awesome shit there, what's your problem with people who make money there? I wish we had more trade with russia. I've always wanted to visit moscow. Now demorats are trying to lace up the iron curtain again.

See youre a war monger dude a biggot anti russian warmonger!

[Jibartik]

Again I am the one telling you that we are not going to war with Russian and your the one saying what ifs.

Sorry your president is the president, so I think what he says matters. This isnt diplomacy this is starting a god damn cold war at best and a world war at worst.

POLITICS
Biden tells U.S. citizens to leave Ukraine immediately amid signs of ‘imminent’ Russian escalation

“My guess is he will move in. He has to do something,” -Biden

“Do I think he’ll test the West, test the United States and NATO, as significantly as he can? Yes, I think he will,” Mr. Biden told reporters during a nearly two-hour news conference in the East

Putin could attack Ukraine on Feb. 16, Biden told allies “Any American in Ukraine should leave as soon as possible, and in any event in the next 24 to 48 hours,”

[Botten]

Sorry your president is the president, so I think what he says matters.

Jib you know none of those quotes says the US is going to war with Russia if Russia invades Ukraine. Stop being a crazy boomer.

[Jibartik]

Jib you know none of those quotes says the US is going to war with Russia if Russia invades Ukraine. Stop being a crazy boomer.

I know that they are hsyterical nonsense and a total lack of diplomacy and likely will cause a war. Come on man. You act like you think trump is bad, but his big dick actually stopped a war. The person biden is defending is begging him to shutup!

anyways, these quotes do say that:

"If any Russian military forces move across the Ukrainian border, that's a renewed invasion, and it will be met with a swift, severe, and united response from the United States and our allies."

US troops to deploy to Eastern Europe amid Ukraine crisis

U.S. troops travel to Ukraine border to support NATO

4 East Coast Destroyers Deploy to Europe Joining U.S. Naval Buildup

Ukraine crisis: Biden to deploy more US troops to eastern Europe
More than 3,000 troops headed to Germany, Poland and Romania after talks between Washington and Moscow fail to ease tensions

[Elizondo]

And what's wrong with clean energy becoming cheaper while fossil fuel energy gets more expensive while less is supplied? (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/12/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-races-to-deploy-clean-energy-that-creates-jobs-and-lowers-costs/).

lol

total pipe dream

Trump something something Trump Trump

[Jibartik]

this is insane, what am I doing, youhd have to have your head so far up your ass to look at america moving troops to the russian border with both sides threatening each other while one of them shouts about glassing the earth, all 20 years after the cold war is over, and not categorically admit that this is the most fucked up event that has happened in your god damn lifetime since 9/11.

This is insane. You are insane that is all.

[Elizondo]

I know that they are hsyterical nonsense and literally could cause a war. Come on man. You act like you think trump is bad, but his big dick actually stopped a war. The fucking person biden is defending is begging him to shutup!

Deplomacy, have you ever heard of it? Yes, you have, when trump prevented wars for his entire term. But you're over here spewing somekind of racist biggotted bullcrap about how Im supposed to hate trump because YOU are still stuck in a 1960s cold war opinion of russia.

I have a feeling all the Biden ukraine talk is just a smokescreen

he keeps sayin russia gonna do this and that and Ukraine/Russia are like "nah dude. wtf are you talkin about" so then when Putin doesn't do what Biden says he's gonna do and does what HE (Putin) says he's gonna do (which is nothing) biden can peacock around on stage at home and claim his senile genius stopped the evil russians (trump trump something trump trump) to try and raise his poll numbers

[Botten]

I know that they are hsyterical nonsense and literally could cause a war. Come on man. You act like you think trump is bad, but his big dick actually stopped a war. The fucking person biden is defending is begging him to shutup!

Deplomacy, have you ever heard of it? Yes, you have, when trump prevented wars for his entire term. But you're over here spewing somekind of racist biggotted bullcrap about how Im supposed to hate trump because YOU are still stuck in a 1960s cold war opinion of russia.

Meuller report proved Russia interfered with our elections and you are saying it is all left over Cold War reasons? The NRA was shut down for funneling Russian money into the RNC. Where are you Jib? Russian assassinations in the NATO countries. Russia interference in Brexit. Meanwhile you have Trump gifting a pull out of a nuclear treaty with Russia. Wake up Jib.

[Elizondo]

Meuller report proved Russia interfered with our elections and you are saying it is all left over Cold War reasons? The NRA was shut down for funneling Russian money into the RNC. Where are you Jib? Russian assassinations in the NATO countries. Russia interference in Brexit. Meanwhile you have Trump gifting a pull out a nuclear treaty with Russia. Wake up Jib.

2016 most secure election in US History

[Botten]

I have a feeling all the Biden ukraine talk is just a smokescreen

he keeps sayin russia gonna do this and that and Ukraine/Russia are like "nah dude. wtf are you talkin about" so then when Putin doesn't do what Biden says he's gonna do and does what HE (Putin) says he's gonna do (which is nothing) biden can peacock around on stage at home and claim his senile genius stopped the evil russians (trump trump something trump trump) to try and raise his poll numbers

One second you are posting links to information another you talking like a kid on /pol on 4chan. You are a strange one Elizondo.

[Botten]

2016 most secure election in US History

You mixed that up with 2020 and Bill Barr’s response.

[Elizondo]

One second you are posting links to information another you talking like a kid on /pol on 4chan. You are a strange one Elizondo.

It's all good man

[Jibartik]

Meuller report proved Russia interfered with our elections and you are saying it is all left over Cold War reasons? The NRA was shut down for funneling Russian money into the RNC. Where are you Jib? Russian assassinations in the NATO countries. Russia interference in Brexit. Meanwhile you have Trump gifting a pull out of a nuclear treaty with Russia. Wake up Jib.

This is the holygrail of leftist alex jones.

Im so glad you said this.

So you're telling me, the Russians interfered with our elections (which mind you nullifies our entire democracy well before the Jan 6 shenanigan's)

They put a friendly agent into the white house.

Didn't try to move into Ukraine.

Then waited until their agent was defeated in another election. (I guess they forgot to interfere??!)

Then move into ukraine?

It makes literally no sense.

Never mind the strange fact that the same guy who was in the whitehouse last time they took land in Ukraine.

Is the guy in the white house, saying that russia is about to take more land in the ukraine.

How. How can you sit there and tell me that trump was a Russian agent elected by Russian interference, when only during the obama/biden administrations do they try to expand their border.

What sense does it make to stop the democrats, if they're the ones handing you Ukraine?

Or to wait until the agent you work with is out of the job??

The logic makes no sense.

[Botten]

This is the holygrail of leftist alex jones.

conspiracy theory.

Well Jib it looks like you worked out most of how Trump was looking to make another 4 years.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=did%20russians%20interfere%20in%202020%20electi on&ia=web

(Gave you DuckDuckGo since conservatives use that search engine. But I am sure nothing will satisfy you. )

That why you need a retirement home already Jib. Seriously.

[unsunghero]

Spoiler alert: competing countries have been and will continue to try to interfere in our political processes AND our infrastructure for as long as we will continue to exist, to some degree

The real question isn’t did it happen. I’ll answer that for every election right now until the end of time: it happened

The real question among rational adults SHOULD be: to what degree did it occur and thus, how significant was it

Now there’s been a lot of strife so let’s all calm each other by reciting the Twitter mantra: Our elections are more secure than they’ve ever been and nothing can compromise that security unless it’s republicans preventing people from voting

[Reiwa]

Now there’s been a lot of strife so let’s all calm each other by reciting the Twitter mantra: Our elections are more secure than they’ve ever been and nothing can compromise that security unless it’s republicans preventing people from voting

2020 election changes was liberation. :)

[Reiwa]

america moving troops to the russian border

Deploy to Eastern Europe is not deploy to The Ukraine.

"If any Russian military forces move across the Ukrainian border, that's a renewed invasion, and it will be met with a swift, severe, and united response from the United States and our allies."

I think that means tagging the Saudis in to freefall the price of oil again and torch the Russian petrostate economy. :cool:

[unsunghero]

I’d sure like to be able to gas up for less than $60/tank for a mid-sized pickup which is pretty effing ridiculous, and I’m sure poor people and lower middle class would appreciate it too

[Reiwa]

I’d sure like to be able to gas up for less than $60/tank for a mid-sized pickup which is pretty effing ridiculous, and I’m sure poor people and lower middle class would appreciate it too

Similar strat we done to Venezuela during the Obungle years.

Thanks Obungle!

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a West Wing marathon on today so I must be going.

[robayon]

Similar strat we done to Venezuela during the Obungle years.

Thanks Obungle!

Now if you'll excuse me, there's a West Wing marathon on today so I must be going.Um excuse me the failure of Venezuela was due to rampant communism, John Krasinski, international politics expert, has assured me of this

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Jibartik
Since we have never actually had a "War" in our lives, is this what the start of a war really is like?

On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland. To justify the action, Nazi propagandists accused Poland of persecuting ethnic Germans living in Poland. They also falsely claimed that Poland was planning, with its allies Great Britain and France, to encircle and dismember Germany. The SS, in collusion with the German military, staged a phony attack on a German radio station. The Germans falsely accused the Poles of this attack. Hitler then used the action to launch a “retaliatory” campaign against Poland.

On <Insert Date>, Russia invaded Ukraine. To justify the action, Russian propagandists accused Ukraine of persecuting ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. They also falsely claimed that Ukraine was planning, with its allies Great Britain, France, Germany and the US to encircle and dismember Russia. The Donbass irregulars, in collusion with the Russian special forces, staged a phony attack on a Russian hospital . The Russians falsely accused the Ukraine of this attack. Putin then used the action to launch a “retaliatory” campaign against the Ukraine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10510145/Russian-state-media-begins-propaganda-push-amid-fears-Ukraine-invasion-imminent.html

Dmitry Kiselyov, a prominent state propagandist often known as 'Putin's mouthpiece', used his Sunday news show to peddle unsubstantiated claims that Ukraine has 'tortured and savagely killed' thousands of civilians in the Donbass region. In a segment entitled 'they are preparing to kill', he also featured an interview with a separatist fighter in the region warning that Ukrainian nationalists have threatened to 'kill and butcher you all, and hang your children on wires'

Look for 'Ukrainian Terrorists' to attack a school or a hospital soon!


EDIT: Is that something they do over there? I use rope, everyone I know uses rope to hang children, or anything really...
Do they have some kind of handy wire laying around that's more common than rope? Are they all into the piano?

[Jibartik]

If we go to war on Wednesday I’m going to be totally shocked that world war three was started on a schedule.

Then I am going to prepare for civil war.

[starkind]

Looks like they agreed to "crippling sanctions".

[Gustoo]

Maybe they use copper conduit removed from bombed out buildings as most bombed out buildings are short of good noose-rope.

[BlackBellamy]

If we go to war on Wednesday I’m going to be totally shocked that world war three was started on a schedule.

Then I am going to prepare for living in a primitive hunter/gatherer society.

FTFY

Remember your primary goal after the mushroom clouds will be to mate with as many females as possible while fending off challenges from beta males!

[Tunabros]

sleepy joe gonna start world war 3

kek

[Jibartik]

FTFY

Remember your primary goal after the mushroom clouds will be to mate with as many females as possible while fending off challenges from beta males!

vvJYEyh8oNE

[Jibartik]

News right now says Ukrainian president warns attack is coming Wednesday.

That's a change of tune from last Wednesday.

BB, question: What can I do today to prepare for this coming apocalypse.

Help the boards out.

[unsunghero]

News right now says Ukrainian president warns attack is coming Wednesday.

That's a change of tune from last Wednesday.

BB, question: What can I do today to prepare for this coming apocalypse.

Help the boards out.

Gonna need some sort of a lead-walled bomb shelter with lots of food. Or else just accept the radiation, depending on the amount it could take quite a while for the irradiated cells to turn cancerous

In the meantime while waiting for cancer, how do u feel about cannibalism

[Ooloo]

The threat of a nuclear apocalypse is kind of overstated if you ask me. Worst case scenario most major cities get destroyed which is obviously horrifying and will cause lots of casualties, but that doesn't mean it would usher in some kind of global nuclear winter.

Don't forget way more than 2 nukes have been exploded in history. Literally thousands and thousands of them have been exploded in the atmosphere by just the US and russia alone doing tests in the 40s and 50s.

A nuke is big but it's a blip compared to the size of the earth. Volcanoes frequently release thousands of times the energy of the largest nuclear weapons and most people don't even notice unless they watch the news.

In summary: Nukes are no big deal change my mind.

[Jibartik]

I always wondered what life would be like after the shock of the first two atomic bombs, the 2 world wars, and threats of global annihilations made by the cold war were forgotten by following generations.

Hello, world war 3! :D

Don't forget way more than 2 nukes have been exploded in history. Literally thousands and thousands of them have been exploded in the atmosphere by just the US and russia alone doing tests in the 40s and 50s.

That does sound promising though. Id like to look into the differences between the nukes we test vs nukes in a global thermo nuclear war affect the earth.

[Reiwa]

If Russia really wanted to nuke they would have by now instead of sending mewling negotiation offers to the UN.

Might get to smoke some Wagners again though.

[Jibartik]

Now even the prez of ukraine sayz the invasion is set for wed.

Putin made it clear, if he loses a war by conventional means because they have much less power than NATO then he will fucking kill us all.

[Ooloo]

That does sound promising though. Id like to look into the differences between the nukes we test vs nukes in a global thermo nuclear war affect the earth.

Well that's kinda what I mean, many of the tests were *way* more powerful explosions than nagasaki or hiroshima by orders of magnitude.

In a sense, the planet has already been through a global thermo-nuclear war, the bombs just weren't exploded anywhere with people living.

Though to be fair, nuclear testing was also globally outlawed. I just don't see a T2-style nuclear dystopia ever actually happening. I'm sure we'll kill ourselves off some other way first.

[Reiwa]

Now even the prez of ukraine sayz the invasion is set for wed.

Putin made it clear, if he loses a war by conventional means because they have much less power than NATO then he will fucking kill us all.

Neither side blinked during the Cold War and things are much mellower now.

I don't think kids even do nuke drills in school anymore.

[Reiwa]

Well that's kinda what I mean, many of the tests were *way* more powerful explosions than nagasaki or hiroshima by orders of magnitude.

In a sense, the planet has already been through a global thermo-nuclear war, the bombs just weren't exploded anywhere with people living.

Though to be fair, nuclear testing was also globally outlawed. I just don't see a T2-style nuclear dystopia ever actually happening. I'm sure we'll kill ourselves off some other way first.

Atmospheric detonations are less irradiating than soil or water detonations.

Can't phrase that right but I'm sure you get the gist.

[Ooloo]

Now even the prez of ukraine sayz the invasion is set for wed.

Putin made it clear, if he loses a war by conventional means because they have much less power than NATO then he will fucking kill us all.

No self-interested party would genuinely threaten nuclear war, and russia is nothing if not self-interested like most countries are. Mutually-assured destruction is still the best game in town as far as staving off the end times.

[Ooloo]

Atmospheric detonations are less irradiating than soil or water detonations.

Can't phrase that right but I'm sure you get the gist.

"Atmospheric" just means not underground, so if your test bomb is just kinda sitting in a shed like castle bravo was, there's still a ton of fallout even though it's technically an atmospheric test . And most nukes in a war *would* be exploded over the ground for maximum shockwave destruction. So again, in many ways the tests were way worse environmentally.

[Jibartik]

No self-interested party would genuinely threaten nuclear war, and russia is nothing if not self-interested like most countries are. Mutually-assured destruction is still the best game in town as far as staving off the end times.

the thing about mutually assured destruction is the folks that can do it are mutually assured they'll survive it.

If that's the case, then America has zero leverage over a dumpster fire like Russia nor north Korea or the CCP.

We're the only functioning economy of the bunch.

[Jibartik]

I guess I got confused by the distinction you seemed to assert, be precise with your words young lobster.

But anyway that's called blast lensing I think.

I dont think they are very big on saftey protocals.

https://i.imgur.com/KttaYv0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KKH1XcP.png

[mcoy]

No one wants to deal with radiation. It'll be high-altitude detonations to generate EMPs. There's a book with an interesting take on the scenario:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After

And then there's:

https://youtu.be/B203twyaMfM?t=10

-Mcoy

[robayon]

No one wants to deal with radiation. It'll be high-altitude detonations to generate EMPs. There's a book with an interesting take on the scenario:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After

-McoyOh neat that looks like an interesting read, thanks!

[Jibartik]

ALndhZfjlZM

[Ooloo]

That underwater one is one of the coolest pieces of footage I've ever seen. It's awe-inspiring. Really puts the whole topic in perspective. Baker was a bit more powerful than the ww2 nukes, but it was exploded thirty meters underwater which absorbs a huge amount of the energy right off the bat.

[Jibartik]

"where's the radiation go?"

"aquatic food supply"

"PHEW, glad it goes somewhere it can get cleaned up!"

[Jibartik]

Map of the people who will survive mutually assured destruction is more like it.

https://i.imgur.com/K11SAqp.png

We live in a stucco bladerunner

[walfreyydo]

Putins regime is based on corruption. Putin controls other countries through corruption. Corrupt leaders are viewed favorably because they are easy to control and manipulate by Putin.

Putin hated Hillary Clinton, Obama, and now Biden because they stand for values anti-thetical to Putin's regime and power center (ie: democratic values). He liked Trump because he is clearly corruptible, and has authoritarian tendancies... This is obvious and not debatable.

After Maidan (February 2014) Ukrainians overthrew Putin's puppet Yanokovich (not after killing over 100 unarmed protestors, mainly by police forces supplied by Russia). Anyone who followed these events closely at the time understood this and saw this as a grassroots uprising supported by the vast majority of the Ukrainian people. Russia tried to portay this as a coup by the west, but the truth was, the Ukrainian people were tired of the post Soviet oligarchical system, which exists in many post-Soviet states (like Ukraine and Belarus, but also Khazakstan, Chechnya and others) as a way for Putin to control them.

What is this whole Russian aggression towards Ukraine about? Its about Ukraine's move towards the embracing of democratic values since 2014 and Putin's loss of control over THE most important country within the Russian sphere. It has nothing to do with NATO, it has nothing to do with the USA outside of the fact that we are (supposed to be at least) champions of democratic norms.

As you may remember, Russia annexed Crimea and invaded Eastern Ukraine shortly after the ousting of Yanukovich (who fled, not surprisingly, to Russia). This was meant to keep Ukraine in disarray (which they were) and pressure/warn Ukraine to not move out of Russia's orbit or enact further corruption/democratic reforms. Despite that, Ukraine civil society has continued to reform their former corrupt republic. Since 2014, the vast majority of Ukrainians now see Russia (formerly their sister country) as an enemy and as a country which wants to control them and keep them corrupt.

Ultimately what is this about? Its about Putin wanting to stop Ukrainians from becoming a corruption-free democracy. This is a direct threat to Putin's regime because if the Russian people see their "sister country" living in a system where everyone has opportunity and free of corruption, then they, the Russian people, will begin to question why they cannot also have that too.

Putin's greatest fear is the collapse of his corrupt system through a revolution we have seen in not only Ukraine, but also Georgia (which he also invaded shortly after the Rose Revolution there). Since 2014 Putin has watched Ukraine continue its path of reforms and undoubtedly watched what happened in Ukraine in 2014 with absolute dread.

Make no mistake, this is an existential fight for Putin. Thats what this is about, and its his greatest fear.

I think ultimately Putin would prefer Ukraine be a failed state/warzone than become an eastern European democracy. I also think that he underestimates how patriotic and willing to fight the Ukrainian people are. Surely it will extract an enormous cost on the Russian military and population's public opinion. His propaganda machine is in full swing trying to portray this as NATO aggression, but at the end of the day, it will be hard to justify to the Russian people why he is leveling their "sister country" when they actually aren't a member of NATO (and have no plans to be in the near term).

The Ukrainians I have met, including my father in law, have said they will never live under Russian rule again and I am absolutely sure that if Putin does invade, its going to go very badly in the long term. His military wont be able to handle the incredible insurgency/partisan warfare that will come later, especially from western Ukraine where Russia will very likely have little presence. They might take Kyiv, but they cant control the whole country.


Source: married to a Ukrainian, and know many personally

[Evia]

What if NATO and the US are actually trying to initiate a one world government but countries like Russia and China are getting in the way? So they make Russia and China look like the bad guys to everyone so when they take them over, they look like the heroes and not the baddies?

I would have never thought this before except the US and all the NATO counties are the ones who are laying out the most tyrannical vax mandates and laws. Seems pretty suspicious to me.

We're not the bad guys are we?

[Jibartik]

Simple fact:

When obama/biden in whitehouse putin takes crimea

when trump is in white house he does not

when obama/biden is in white house, world war 3 starts on wednessday.

Anything else is just hyperbole.

What if NATO and the US are actually trying to initiate a one world government but countries like Russia and China are getting in the way? So they make Russia and China look like the bad guys to everyone so when they take them over, they look like the heroes and not the baddies?

I would have never thought this before except the US and all the NATO counties are the ones who are laying out the most tyrannical vax mandates and laws. Seems pretty suspect to me.

We're not the bad guys are we?


100% look at the most vocal leftists on these boards, they are now activlyl saying they are not liberals, theyre "leftists".. meaning they are abandoning all reason and going full authoritarian.

The end is nigh. This is it. See you in Colorado!

[walfreyydo]

What if NATO and the US are actually trying to initiate a one world government but countries like Russia and China are getting in the way? So they make Russia and China look like the bad guys to everyone so when they take them over, they look like the heroes and not the baddies?

I would have never thought this before except the US and all the NATO counties are the ones who are laying out the most tyrannical vax mandates and laws. Seems pretty suspicious to me.

We're not the bad guys are we?

Take off the tin foil hat bud

[walfreyydo]

Simple fact:

When obama/biden in whitehouse putin takes crimea

when trump is in white house he does not

when obama/biden is in white house, world war 3 starts on wednessday.

Anything else is just hyperbole.

When Putin's stooge was in control of Ukraine there was no war. Putin's stooge gets thrown out, now we see aggression.

When he can control something there is no need for aggression

See the pattern? Yes it applies to the USA as well.

[Jibartik]

The idea that you think

1. the democracy we have is such a joke a russian stooge could be elected

2. that the point of electing a stooge would be to NOT invade a country you want with the protection of your stooge

just shows you that you are a stooge in the sense that you're a dummy.

[Jibartik]

When Putin's stooge was in control of Ukraine there was no war. Putin's stooge gets thrown out, now we see aggression.

When he can control something there is no need for aggression

See the pattern? Yes it applies to the USA as well.

Take off the tin foil hat bud

lol making a second reply because: bruh look at what you just said.

[walfreyydo]

lol making a second reply because: bruh look at what you just said.

But Im right so....

[walfreyydo]

The idea that you think

1. the democracy we have is such a joke a russian stooge could be elected

2. that the point of electing a stooge would be to NOT invade a country you want with the protection of your stooge

just shows you that you are a stooge in the sense that you're a dummy.

Hurling personal insults make your arguments look weak and your demeanor immature.

As you can see, Trump literally was willing to sell out the Ukrainians military aid in return for made up information about his opponent's son. He was only going to give it to them in exchange for corrupt favors. That's directly from Putin's playbook my friend. No need to be aggressive towards leaders who do your bidding and undermine your enemy (Ukraine).

[Jibartik]

It the dumbest conspiracy theory I have ever heard. ANd Ive heard them all.

You have destroyed America in the process of pushing it on the highest levels of our goverment, having been proved wrong in courts, and now the same idiots that were pushing that lie are starting world war 3

whatever who cares what you think the end has begun (this is what he would have gotten away with ZERO mililtary intervention if he had a stooge in the white house you dolt) now it's going to result in the end of your way of life:

MOSCOW, February 14. /TASS/. The State Duma on Tuesday will consider two competing appeals to Russian President Vladimir Putin to recognize two self-proclaimed republics in Ukraine, Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the parliament’s the lower house, said on Telegram.

"The issue of the appeal to the president about the need to recognize the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics will be considered tomorrow in preferential voting," he said. "The version that will collect more votes in the preferential voting will be adopted."

https://tass.com/world/1403111

[robayon]

100% look at the most vocal leftists on these boards, they are now activlyl saying they are not liberals, theyre "leftists".. meaning they are abandoning all reason and going full authoritarian.I am a vocal leftist on these boards and I despise most all American authority, I feel like I am being misunderstood

[Evia]

Take off the tin foil hat bud

You're probably right, everything is fine. Nothing to worry about!

[Reiwa]

100% look at the most vocal leftists on these boards, they are now activlyl saying they are not liberals, theyre "leftists".. meaning they are abandoning all reason and going full authoritarian.

We're all fellow travelers, duuuuuude. 🌲

[Elizondo]

When Putin's stooge was in control of Ukraine there was no war. Putin's stooge gets thrown out, now we see aggression.

When he can control something there is no need for aggression

See the pattern? Yes it applies to the USA as well.

5 years later and dems still can't cope with Hillary's epic defeat

[Jibartik]

I am a vocal leftist on these boards and I despise most all American authority, I feel like I am being misunderstood

you're an anarchist, you are by no means a biden cock sucking fienstine supporting shill.

[walfreyydo]

Jib, I know you aren't a stupid person and you are smart enough to connect these dots, your political bias is just telling you not to admit it.

Amirite?

[Jibartik]

If having trump in the whitehouse means no world war 3 and a free ukraine then fuck anyone who is against trump being in the white house.

[walfreyydo]

If having trump in the whitehouse means no world war 3 then fuck anyone who is against trump being in the white house.

No matter the cost right?

Do you know the costs?

[Elizondo]

No matter the cost right?

Do you know the costs?

Costs?

Like energy independence, super low gas prices, highest minority employment in 50 years to name a few?

[Jibartik]

No matter the cost right?

Do you know the costs?

Is it inflation? is it 20% higher gas prices? is it world war 3? is it still being short 300,000 jobs that we had 2 years ago? is it 10 million starving people in Afghanistan? Is it 13 dead soldiers? Did he drone a car of evacuating children?

Can you list that many things that happened in 1 year?

Go:

[Botten]

Is it inflation? is it 20% higher gas prices? is it world war 3? is it still being short 300,000 jobs that we had 2 years ago? is it 10 million starving people in Afghanistan? Is it 13 dead soldiers? Did he drone a car of evacuating children?

Can you list that many things that happened in 1 year?

Go:

1. It's like the Colonial Pipeline gas shortage as a result of cyberattack by hackers had nothing to do with gas prices for the next few years (or early in the year hike). Or the threat of Russia taking Ukraine doesn't inch up the price of oil.. Anytime any oil exporting country pushes this; OPEC takes it as a sign to up prices.

2. World War 3; ha. Already said over and over again it is just Russia doing the same garbage they did during the Annex of Crimea.

3. Job market is up higher than it has ever been. (https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/business/joe-biden-jobs-record/index.html) This is the best time to switch jobs and get a much much higher paying job.

4. Biden already giving money to humanitarian parties in Afghanistan. Already said to you that you ignored in your old age; boomer.

5. 13 dead during the departure of Afghanistan. Still seems better than 70,000 + dead allies during the evacuation of Syria by Trump administration. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-redcross/red-cross-urges-swift-evacuation-of-syrias-dead-and-wounded-idUSBRE9450BW20130506)

6. War is a terrible thing a car of children vs a US supplied bomb that killed 40 children on Yemen school bus during the Trump administration in Aug. 2018 (https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/middleeast/us-saudi-yemen-bus-strike-intl/index.html)

...having fun gaslighting, still?

Trump was a raging lunatic who failed in his attempt to steal the election; with a plan for alternate electors.
Biden finally brought some normalism back to the White house. Enough with the alt right drama from you crazy GOP nationalists.

[Gustoo]

Trump is terrible in many ways, easily the worst US president of all time. If he gets dethroned we're in trouble.

Biden though is exactly the same team that was in charge as the US got to the place it was in to elect Trump.

Reps and Dems letting us all down pretty bad.

[GinnasP99]

Jesus Christ, these forums have gotten VERY boring.

[robayon]

Good old American normalism is back baby, just heaps of dead bodies

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-says-isis-leader-quraishi-killed-syria-raid-2022-02-03/

[Toxigen]

let the bodies hit the floor

[Reiwa]

Good old American normalism is back baby, just heaps of dead bodies

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-says-isis-leader-quraishi-killed-syria-raid-2022-02-03/

"It's very clear from reviewing the operation in real time that the massive explosion on the third floor is what really caused the casualties," the official said.

[robayon]

"It's very clear from reviewing the operation in real time that the massive explosion on the third floor is what really caused the casualties," the official said.I do not believe American officials, especially in situations involving violence overseas

[Elizondo]

1. It's like the Colonial Pipeline gas shortage as a result of cyberattack by hackers had nothing to do with gas prices for the next few years (or early in the year hike). Or the threat of Russia taking Ukraine doesn't inch up the price of oil.. Anytime any oil exporting country pushes this; OPEC takes it as a sign to up prices.

Biden killed US domestic oil production dude. He killed Keystone on day 1 of his selected presidency. Killed thousands of jobs. All with a stroke of a pen. Heartless to appease his crazy base

2. World War 3; ha. Already said over and over again it is just Russia doing the same garbage they did during the Annex of Crimea.

Biden waggin the dog to distract from all his failures. Nothin more

3. Job market is up higher than it has ever been. (https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/business/joe-biden-jobs-record/index.html) This is the best time to switch jobs and get a much much higher paying job.

CNN lol

You see the PPI report this morning?

4. Biden already giving money to humanitarian parties in Afghanistan. Already said to you that you ignored in your old age; boomer.

Bro Afghanistan was a disaster and Brandon shipping pedos to the US

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/30/convicted-rapist-reached-us-afghan-evacuation-flig/

EXCLUSIVE: Convicted rapist reached the U.S. on Afghan evacuation flight

5. 13 dead during the departure of Afghanistan. Still seems better than 70,000 + dead allies during the evacuation of Syria by Trump administration. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-redcross/red-cross-urges-swift-evacuation-of-syrias-dead-and-wounded-idUSBRE9450BW20130506)

6. War is a terrible thing a car of children vs a US supplied bomb that killed 40 children on Yemen school bus during the Trump administration in Aug. 2018 (https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/middleeast/us-saudi-yemen-bus-strike-intl/index.html)

CIA was conductin a secret war in Syria that had been goin on for years and it was a failure. Blame them.

...having fun gaslighting, still? ROFL

Trump was a raging lunatic who failed in his attempt to steal the election; with a plan for alternate electors.
Biden finally brought some normalism back to the White house. Enough with the alt right drama from you crazy GOP nationalists.

Orange Super Prez The Great was awesome. Dems rigged that election in 2020. No doubt.

P.S. Hillary spied on a sitting US Prez. Treason.

[Reiwa]

Biden killed US domestic oil production dude. He killed Keystone on day 1 of his selected presidency. Killed thousands of jobs. All with a stroke of a pen. Heartless to appease his crazy base


https://i.imgur.com/fNbo3u1.jpg

[Ooloo]

Biden brought normality back to the white house in the same way a blindfolded rooster would.

[BlackBellamy]

let the bodies hit the floor

https://i.imgur.com/gO1waKF.jpg

I prefer they're sucked up into a fiery maelstrom and consumed in the withering fire, their ashes spread over the countryside to fertilize yet another ideology worthy of firebombing entire cities.

Oh America, don't ever change!

[Elizondo]

https://i.imgur.com/fNbo3u1.jpg

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t02.htm

Price of Gas up 41% since he took office

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-maims-us-energy-industry-then-begs-opec-for-oil/ar-AANgt9P

Biden maims US energy industry, then begs OPEC for oil

Unfortunately, President Joe Biden has been determined to undo this progress ever since he took office. He halted construction on the Keystone XL pipeline and banned new leasing for energy on federal lands. He happily indulges the delusions of extremists who believe the U.S. must enter an age of managed decline and lower living standards in order to stave off an imaginary apocalypse.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/01/25/biden-drilling-moratorium/

Biden poised to halt new fossil fuel leasing on federal land and water Wednesday

President Biden is poised to impose a moratorium on new federal oil and gas leasing Wednesday, according to three people briefed on the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the plan was still being finalized. The move will deliver on one of Biden’s boldest climate campaign pledges but will encounter stiff resistance from the fossil fuel industry.

[Reiwa]

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t02.htm

Price of Gas up 41% since he took office

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-maims-us-energy-industry-then-begs-opec-for-oil/ar-AANgt9P



https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/01/25/biden-drilling-moratorium/

I'm sure a shitty shale oil pipeline was gonna be the lynchpin of US economic growth and pump prices.

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/gO1waKF.jpg

I prefer they're sucked up into a fiery maelstrom and consumed in the withering fire, their ashes spread over the countryside to fertilize yet another ideology worthy of firebombing entire cities.

Oh America, don't ever change!

527 USAAF B-17 Flying Fortress heavy bombers did nothing wrong.

[Elizondo]

I'm sure a shitty shale oil pipeline was gonna be the lynchpin of US economic growth and pump prices.

16967

[Reiwa]

16967

Didn't the oil companies lose billions at the start of Covid? Prices so low they were paying you to haul it away. They're recouping that and using Keystone XL as cover m8.

Liabilities are a mother fucker.

[Elizondo]

Didn't the oil companies lose billions at the start of Covid? Prices so low they were paying you to haul it away. They're recouping that and using Keystone XL as cover m8.

Liabilities are a mother fucker.

lol dude

Yea they recoupin so Brandon has to beg Opec for more oil and he releasin strategic oil reserves tryin to bring the price down which is beyond stupidity

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/23/politics/biden-oil-reserves-gas-prices/index.html

Biden announces release of oil reserves, but says gas prices will not drop overnight

(CNN)President Joe Biden on Tuesday announced the release of emergency oil reserves to combat high energy prices ahead of the busy holiday travel season, but it will be weeks before the barrels hit the market.

You embarrassing yourself man

By all means, please continue

[unsunghero]

All the articles I read seem to imply that covid restrictions forced everyone to stop driving, creating much less demand, then now that everyone is driving again (oh no you’ll kill grandma with covid though!) the suppliers can’t keep up

So whoever implemented extreme covid restrictions with questionable success in terms of protecting the people is at least partly responsible for gas prices now

[unsunghero]

My problem with covid restriction predictions by virologists is a question of liability bias. And I use mostly my own job experiences in terms of how I can relate

For example, when I’m training new hires, I explain a scenario: let’s say I have a school making a request for a student. We now have 3 stakeholders involved in the decision as to what to do with the student: the school, the student, and the student’s parents. And those 3 can often have very different ideas of the best plan with very different motivations

The student’s can often be the path of least amount of effort on their part, the most convenient option, which is to do nothing. The parent’s is usually a combination between safety and health of the student and being able to financially afford the treatment, for example hospital stays can cost a parent thousands of dollars in co-pays, so it raises a serious question of is this stay absolutely necessary. And the school’s number 1 priority is liability for them. This means a school will 100% of the time want the most safe, and most expensive, treatment outcome

If all parents followed school requests and hospitalized 100% of students the school recommended, the hospital system and public health insurance infrastructure would collapse. It is simply not possible. This is why there is a triage process to hospitalize those that most need it (are at the highest risk)

Analysis of covid restrictions is the same thing. No virologist scientist or doctor wants to be the one saying “nah fam, it’s fine, open everything up” because that could be a liability nightmare for them. They are far more likely to have a bias towards protecting their own professional liability rather than an outcome good for all stakeholders. Also, it’s hard to refute a claim of “yeah but if we didn’t lock down, everyone would have died”, or something like that, since it is a hypothetical

I’ve said my issue with liability bias in covid predictions from virologists before

[Reiwa]

All the articles I read seem to imply that covid restrictions forced everyone to stop driving, creating much less demand, then now that everyone is driving again (oh no you’ll kill grandma with covid though!) the suppliers can’t keep up

So whoever implemented extreme covid restrictions with questionable success in terms of protecting the people is at least partly responsible for gas prices now

Some subset of these dudes. Sorry for small, bad at computer. :(

https://i.imgur.com/oVN4mRM.png

[Reiwa]

war with russia every time a democrat is in office.


Well not every Democrat, but everytime we've fought Russia it was a Democrat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_Siberia)

https://i.imgur.com/dtGjYd6.jpeg

[Jibartik]

I hope that we get nuked because I am so sick of listening to confident fat losers in this country.

god damn the biden supporters are worse than trumps most loyal fans.

[Jibartik]

CNN: due to warm weather and muddy conditions, Russia will not be able to invade Ukraine on February 16 Journalists from the United States said that because of the dirt, Russian equipment will not be able to develop an offensive.

no nukes after all.... back to work!

[Horza]

I hope that we get nuked because I am so sick of listening to confident fat losers in this country.

god damn the biden supporters are worse than trumps most loyal fans.

Just get it over with and neck yourself already.

[Tunabros]

sleepy joe single-handily ruining the economy by this one action alone

very nice, liberals!

[BlackBellamy]

If we go to war on Wednesday I’m going to be totally shocked that world war three was started on a schedule.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10515943/Ukraine-hit-cyber-attack-targeting-ministry-defence-banks-alleged-Russian-hybrid-war.html

Russia has started a 'hybrid war', it was feared tonight, as several key Ukrainian websites, including banks, government departments and the ministry of defence, were hit by a massive cyber attack


Tomorrow, tomorrow, you're only a nuke away!

[Trexller]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10515943/Ukraine-hit-cyber-attack-targeting-ministry-defence-banks-alleged-Russian-hybrid-war.html



Tomorrow, tomorrow, you're only a nuke away!

might be right, rumors around the mill are that wednesday (2-16) is the "Go" day

in this modern world, cyber attacks are the opening salvo.

[robayon]

might be right, rumors around the mill are that wednesday (2-16) is the "Go" day

in this modern world, cyber attacks are the opening salvo.but arent cyber attacks just elaborate words

[Trexller]

but arent cyber attacks just elaborate words

fail

[robayon]

failDamn, next time I guess I have to try bullets

[Jibartik]

Imagine the look on everyones faces if a nuke went off.

Holy shit. That'd straighten everyone out a bit.

whoah did someoen just tell someone to kill themselves online, and they're from the empathetic left?

Just get it over with and neck yourself already.

yes someone did do that.

[starkind]

Imagine the look on everyones faces if a nuke went off.

Holy shit. That'd straighten everyone out a bit.

whoah did someoen just tell someone to kill themselves online, and they're from the empathetic left?



yes someone did do that.

Yep.

Also the training I went through for MOPP, nuclear, biological, chemical should be mandatory. And high-school kids should spend a full day including PE in MOPP 4.

[Jibartik]

Not one of my social media feeds I follow that have been giving me hourly updates about ukraine has posted in like 5 hours.

[Jibartik]

I like this one.

As Media Tries to Start WWIII Claiming Russian Invasion ‘Imminent’, Russia Withdraws Troops from Near Ukraine (https://thefreethoughtproject.com/as-media-tries-to-start-wwiii-claiming-russian-invasion-imminent-russia-withdraws-troops-from-near-ukraine/)

Beacause if russia backs out it's gonna make biden look like he was an idiot with all that talk about incursions, minor incursions, his predictions, the false flag claims all the shit they were doing to make us think there was a war, I mean the start of this thread I was like "ppfffftt" but based on my gov I was like, well they seem to believe it 100%

This is gonna make the leftists have to say that no, that never happened, and whatever other nonsense they'll start making up to make it seem like none of that ever happened.

Putin will spin it like it was a failure of the American media, and the smart people will blame Biden, and the leftists will say that none of it happened and trumpers eat paste.

And we'll just get back to yelling at each other and putin can cash in on all the chaos.

[Trexller]

looks like Putin got whatever backdoor diplomatic concessions that he wanted.

maybe a win for diplomacy? maybe?

[unsunghero]

Aww I was kinda thinking Russia might invade and Ukraine would just immediately surrender and hand Russia all of the weapons we just sold them

Biden would be like “not again!”

[starkind]

Putin. Should like. Be the leader of NATO tbh.

[Jibartik]

Well the war turned out to be a delusional old mans delusion.

[Gustoo]

For reals?

Russia real life just like wasting peoples time and energy. The response to their shits this time was such that grabbing a bit more of free ukraine did not seem wise so they did not do so.

The next time they pile tanks on the border we will have to do the same damn thing for the rest of their existence.

Nothing delusional about Biden here. Everyone in real life had standard level russian invasion / annexing concern which has and will remain a valid concern.

Like Trexller said - back door concessions, maybe russia can start selling us some damn surplus 7n6 russian spam can 5.45x39 ammo again for fucks sake.

[robayon]

They are basically lifting weights for when all the permafrost melts and Russia and Canada possess the majority of the agricultural clout, and then they are gonna need to be beefcake countries

[BlackBellamy]

This is a giant loss for Putin whichever way it shakes out. He can claim whatever he wants for the gullible public but the leaders of the western nations know the truth. You don't send huge amounts of blood plasma to the front for training exercises, you literally don't do anything like he was doing for training exercises. You don't accuse people of stringing children on wires for training exercises. Also, every legitimate training exercise is planned well in advance and also public knowledge especially on that scale. Also, they've been doing these exercises for 11 months now. So he's lying and everyone knows he's lying except idk stupid people.

The people who have been lying the entire time are now saying ok this is the truth now and as proof they show you a video of tanks on a train. As further proof they claim they already invaded Ukraine 8 years ago and got what they wanted so there's no need to do it again. There you go stupid, run with it, the war is off!

The Ukrainian War has been going on since 2014. Every move Putin makes is designed to put pressure on it, to destabilize it, to install a new Lukashenko. He moves troops up, he moves them back, he does maneuvers, he screws their pipeline, oops there's more unrest in the Donbass. He took over the Crimea, just seized it. Ooops this is now our country not yours like it has been. They just declared the Donbass some new political entity, don't even care to look up the name because it's just a paperwork excuse to keep what they took and make it formal in a little while. Meanwhile he keeps his people fed with a steady diet of children on wires and his political opponents are all in jail or were real clumsy with the balconies.

Anyway, like I said this is a giant loss for him. Everyone in the West is now terrified of him because he's a fucking maniac. They knew he had to do this little Russian thing to hold on to power but no one thought he would go this far. If he wanted to crack NATO he did the opposite. The UK went super-belligerent on him, he must have been really surprised at that. They're the biggest hawks on this thing, they were the first to send troops and call for unity and a show of strength. He publicly humiliated Marcon and everyone could see it, which I'm sure played great on the Russian TV but was seen as a personal insult among the western rulers and a caution against talking to him further.

Lastly, and this is the most important part of all, he fucked his relationship with Germany. The Germans are pragmatic and they'll see the folly of getting their energy supplies from a maniac with his thumb on the valve and five thousand tanks a short drive away. Or at least the hope is there. The one biggest fear of American foreign policy is tight cooperation between Russia and Germany. Yup, it's not Russia alone or China. It's that if Germany and Russia form a tight bond or some sort of union, the resulting entity will be the one most able to challenge the US in the future. This is the one central pillar of American foreign policy since the end of WW2. No matter what happens, Russia and Germany can never be friends.

[Jibartik]

For reals?

Russia real life just like wasting peoples time and energy. The response to their shits this time was such that grabbing a bit more of free ukraine did not seem wise so they did not do so.


No I definitely blame Biden for this one because this is happened in every presidency with every president before him and we didn’t come this close to World War III then.

I mean they’re showing videos of him talking about World War III while he’s ordering an ice cream cone last week this guy was filling our minds with delusions and paranoid fantasy.

Every president before him every year before him Russia does this bullshit.

Edit: I do agree with BB but I don’t think that this isn’t gonna crack NATO I think what it’s gonna do is inflame NATO and get It to take over Ukraine Russia and if Russia will allow that to happen then all right good job NATO you used The threat of total annihilation to gain ground with Russia called their bluff.

[starkind]

It all really sucks for Ukraine either way.

I'm glad there isn't a "shooting war".

There is an excuse for decades more military build up. "Internal strife". Terrorism. And depression causing instability which will stop anyone from heavily investing in Ukraine. Except maybe Russia will heavily fortify Crimea as a port.

That is status quo.

Aka "one world government". And the people in power all still get what they want. Money and a reason to stay in power.

That is my expert analysis.

Usually Africa is the chew toy: see for reference.

[Jibartik]

Well at least the tribulation said there would be rumors of wars.

[Jibartik]

Hey I wonder how we'll feel if ukraine, empowered by all the rhetoric form the west decides to move south and take back crimea, but loses and russia takes over ukraine.

ukrainian_army_is_moving_south_tochkau_tactical (https://www.tiktok.com/@respect_281/video/7065019906730888454?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id7057770689017595397)

[BlackBellamy]

Putin isn't going to do anything before Feb 20th. He was just in Beijing assuring Xi he wasn't gonna fuck up his games.

[Jibartik]

If I was Xi Id move plazma to taiwan border then when everyone freaks out id move it back and be like, what we're testing a new type of transport, god you westerners are crazy.

[BlackBellamy]

The national anthem of the Ukraine:

Our enemies will die, as the dew does in the sunshine,
and we, too, brothers, we'll live happily in our land.

and also

we’ll prove that we're brothers of Kozak kin.

"Kozak" = Cossack

Fought for the Nazis:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cossack_Cavalry_Division


Hangs out in the "Cossack House"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

..trains old ladies to shoot Russians

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10515451/Babushka-battalion-training-Ukraine-organised-neo-NAZIS.html

and also

It was formed to fight separatists when Russia first annexed Crimea, but has now become a subdivision of Ukraine's National Guard, which takes its orders directly from the country's Ministry of Affairs.

Yeah lets go Ukraine! I love supporting FREEDOM-LOVING people who love FREEDOM and wave flags with FREEDOM around. Those are the good guys. Never mind the whole "their entire government is run by and infiltrated by Nazis" thing.

[starkind]

What did I just say about terrorism and the status quo.

[robayon]

What did I just say about terrorism and the status quo.I just re-read your post and I am not sure either :eek:

[BlackBellamy]

I just re-read your post and I am not sure either :eek:

Starkind is implying this is all an excuse to propagate the status quo, you know we have always been at war with Turbanstan and whoa those terrorists, the old Wizard of Oz routine.

Here is NATO considering new "battlegroups" in response. Idk what a battlegroup is but it sounds very expensive. We have always been making new battlegroups.

https://i.imgur.com/ncK7zWK.jpg

Russians: We're moving our tanks away from the border!

NATO: You're moving your tanks towards the border!

If only Colin Powell was still alive to prove to us where the tanks of mass destruction were. He would whip out some models and drive them around the desk making boom boom sounds.

[starkind]

Yes.

Snow uniforms and armored jet ski G.I. Joe!

[Jibartik]

Not thinking pumping nato with money is a great idea is going to be a sign that you're a horse paste eating trumper antivax racist.

[starkind]

I'm a communist first and foremost tbqvfh. Military style nullo commune. Elite memberships only tho.

[BlackBellamy]

Yes.

Snow uniforms and armored jet ski G.I. Joe!

10th Mountain Division, United States Army, circa 2021

https://i.imgur.com/RlgeySQ.jpg

The Russian attack on the Lithuanians, circa 1368

https://i.imgur.com/KTLyF82.jpg

[BlackBellamy]

Since we have never actually had a "War" in our lives, is this what the start of a war really is like?

On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland. To justify the action, Nazi propagandists accused Poland of persecuting ethnic Germans living in Poland. They also falsely claimed that Poland was planning, with its allies Great Britain and France, to encircle and dismember Germany. The SS, in collusion with the German military, staged a phony attack on a German radio station. The Germans falsely accused the Poles of this attack. Hitler then used the action to launch a “retaliatory” campaign against Poland.

On <Insert Date>, Russia invaded Ukraine. To justify the action, Russian propagandists accused Ukraine of persecuting ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. They also falsely claimed that Ukraine was planning, with its allies Great Britain, France, Germany and the US to encircle and dismember Russia. The Donbass irregulars, in collusion with the Russian special forces, staged a phony attack on a Russian hospital . The Russians falsely accused the Ukraine of this attack. Putin then used the action to launch a “retaliatory” campaign against the Ukraine.



Look for 'Ukrainian Terrorists' to attack a school or a hospital soon!



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-latest-kindergarten-attack-donbas-pro-russian-forces-false-flag-b983100.html

Ukraine crisis: Kindergarten ‘hit by pro-Russian forces’ as Boris Johnson accuses Moscow of ‘false flag operation’

Kiev released images on Thursday morning of a badly damaged building with children’s toys on the floor, surrounded by debris following the alleged shelling by separatists forces in Stanytsia Luhanska, in eastern Ukraine.

[starkind]

R i.p. Ukraine

[BlackBellamy]

Showing no sign he will allow tensions to subside, Vladimir Putin demanded on Thursday that the U.S. remove all of its forces from Eastern and Central Europe and expelled U.S. Deputy Ambassador Bartle Gorman from Russia.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10523601/Kamala-Harris-leaves-Munich-Conference-artillery-rings-Ukraine.html

Hi, yes, yes, hello President Biden, this is Putin. Puh-tin! Yes I can hear you! Ok what I want you to do is remove all your troops from Eastern and Central Europe. So Germany, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, everything. You can keep your troops in Western Europe...or UK if you will. Yes those can stay on the island. Ok, great let me know when all the US troops are gone from the European mainland and then we'll talk again. Have a great day!

[starkind]

Africa is a really big place. Invest there in that cool lake through that German company.

Just pretend Ukraine is a zombie 🧟*♂️.

[Gustoo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10523601/Kamala-Harris-leaves-Munich-Conference-artillery-rings-Ukraine.html

Hi, yes, yes, hello President Biden, this is Putin. Puh-tin! Yes I can hear you! Ok what I want you to do is remove all your troops from Eastern and Central Europe. So Germany, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, everything. You can keep your troops in Western Europe...or UK if you will. Yes those can stay on the island. Ok, great let me know when all the US troops are gone from the European mainland and then we'll talk again. Have a great day!

LOL what a classically ridiculous request.

Prior phone call from Biden "Hey, yes this is Joe. No! JOE! Yes I can hear you! Okay what I want you to do is just kinda BE YOURSELF for a while. We've got this coronavirus and its kinda aging out everyones a little sick of it. Haha no, figuratively not literally of course. Can you do your red menace thing? No! RED MENACE you know like just be a bad guy do bad guy stuff. Saber rattling or whatever. Anyways I need to go into production for a lot of new weapons and stuff my guys already made all the coronavirus vaccines and now they're idling about and really wanna make some new weapons. No actually old weapons your countermeasures are fine you don't need to upgrade them, but if you want you can make some more. I just can't let anyone have the breathing room to worry about inflation and how corporations are buying all their family homes LOL.

OK great take care say hello to the grand kids for me.

[BlackBellamy]

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) recorded multiple shelling incidents in eastern Ukraine early Thursday. A top Ukrainian government official told Reuters that the shelling at the cease-fire line surpasses the level of breaches previously reported during the long-running conflict.

“It’s part of the playbook,” said UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace, who warned of “activity on the ground in cyber, in forward or specialist forces, seeking to either do false flags or to create pretext. You’re definitely going to start seeing, we already are seeing, the raising of the rhetoric around alleged breaches.”



The self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic accused Ukrainian forces of firing mortars, grenade launchers and a machine gun on Thursday.
“Armed forces of Ukraine have crudely violated the ceasefire regime, using heavy weapons, which, according to the Minsk agreements, should be withdrawn,” the rebels said in a statement.

It's like this script everyone is following.

[Gravydoo II]

So a bunch of antiques just pulled up on Ukraine.. great.

[starkind]

Both Putin and Biden and most NATO leaders are getting Ukrainian kindergarteners killed by likely foreign agent provocateur. News at 11am Greenwich mean time.

[BlackBellamy]

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

Last July 12th, Putin wrote an essay on why he is going to conquer the Ukraine.

Today, the ”right“ patriot of Ukraine is only the one who hates Russia. Moreover, the entire Ukrainian statehood, as we understand it, is proposed to be further built exclusively on this idea.

And we will never allow our historical territories and people close to us living there to be used against Russia.

I am confident that true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in partnership with Russia.

For we are one people.

To recap, the only reason Ukraine exists is because Nazis, these lands are all ours anyway because 300 years ago "Taras Shevchenko wrote poetry in the Ukrainian language, and prose mainly in Russian" and we're going to decide what happens to these people. And those people over there. We are one people.

[Ooloo]

Yeah you're only truly free when I own you, duh

Many abusive husbands sound just like that!

[starkind]

Which abusive husband should Ukrainians pick?

[Gustoo]

Good question.

If we keep being trump style pieces of shit, they certainly can't count on the USA. Fortunately NATO is more than just the USA and the whole of europe is concerned. I think that Ukraine is stuck in the middle and their bossman has to continue to do his best to play the middle. They don't want to be a battlefield for these two "great powers" but it seems like picking a side will be very challenging. When you choose russia you choose not to be a country anymore, just a gas station or whatever. When you choose NATO you choose to be Russias enemy until they find a way to convince NATO to abandon you or vice versa.

Yikes. Obviously, I favor Nato.

Situations like this make me glad to be a nobody in the USA not a man with a target painted on me like the prime minister of Ukraine.

[starkind]

Good question.

If we keep being trump style pieces of shit, they certainly can't count on the USA. Fortunately NATO is more than just the USA and the whole of europe is concerned. I think that Ukraine is stuck in the middle and their bossman has to continue to do his best to play the middle. They don't want to be a battlefield for these two "great powers" but it seems like picking a side will be very challenging. When you choose russia you choose not to be a country anymore, just a gas station or whatever. When you choose NATO you choose to be Russias enemy until they find a way to convince NATO to abandon you or vice versa.

Yikes. Obviously, I favor Nato.

Situations like this make me glad to be a nobody in the USA not a man with a target painted on me like the prime minister of Ukraine.
Yeah honestly a really great answer write up. I agree i think pretty much. I don't really have skin personally in the game though.


Thanks for taking a moment to stream your conciousness a bit on this topic.

[Patriam1066]

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181

Last July 12th, Putin wrote an essay on why he is going to conquer the Ukraine.









To recap, the only reason Ukraine exists is because Nazis, these lands are all ours anyway because 300 years ago "Taras Shevchenko wrote poetry in the Ukrainian language, and prose mainly in Russian" and we're going to decide what happens to these people. And those people over there. We are one people.

Who cares. You registered for selective service, as did we all

Fall in line maggot. Athens over sparta, then and now

[Ooloo]

Which abusive husband should Ukrainians pick?

Not Russia would at least be a good start

[New_Guy]

China and Russia are making the same moves at the same time for the same reason. China would need to take Taiwan before they could take the south pacific, Russia would need to take Ukraine before they could march on Europe.

These are pre-emptive strikes to start World War 3. They couldn't possibly launch an invasion with ally troops in friendly neighboring nations parked on their doorstep. That is why Russia invaded and sealed off Georgia on the opposite side of the Black Sea and China took Hong Kong, Taiwan and Ukraine are simply the last step of their plan.

[Elizondo]

China and Russia are making the same moves at the same time for the same reason. China would need to take Taiwan before they could take the south pacific, Russia would need to take Ukraine before they could march on Europe.

These are pre-emptive strikes to start World War 3. They couldn't possibly launch an invasion with ally troops in friendly neighboring nations parked on their doorstep. That is why Russia invaded and sealed off Georgia on the opposite side of the Black Sea and China took Hong Kong, Taiwan and Ukraine are simply the last step of their plan.

Thankfully we have a senile prez who was once a lifeguard at Lake Oswego to stop them

[New_Guy]

Thankfully we have a senile prez who was once a lifeguard at Lake Oswego to stop them

While Biden is a worthless chud, Trump's terribly low intellect wouldn't make him a better choice either.

When your options are Weak or Stupid you are fucked either way.

[Reiwa]

While Biden is a worthless chud

https://i.imgur.com/6srWprv.png

I told you guys these freaks are out there.

[unsunghero]

https://i.imgur.com/6srWprv.png

I told you guys these freaks are out there.

Remember these? My buddy and I could quote every single one when we were kids

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ogEtfIdgjpY

[BlackBellamy]

Oh look what the Russians are "reporting":

https://tass.com/world/1406207

DONETSK, February 18. /TASS/. A powerful explosion rocked downtown Donetsk on Friday, the Donetsk News Agency reported.

"A car exploded at the parking lot near the government building at about 19:00," the office of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic at the Joint Center for the Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Regime said on Telegram. (That’s the same time as in Moscow.)

The explosion was "heard across the entire city," the office said. Responders from the Emergency Situations Ministry are headed to the scene.

The statement also calls for citizens to "remain calm, be vigilant and avoid moving about the city."

That's the Russians blowing up cars in front of their own offices. I'm sure no one was around when that happened. No one important. I'm really surprised they didn't find a body close by dressed in a Ukrainian uniform. Too obvious?

[Jibartik]

Dontesk don’t tell.

[BlackBellamy]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-joe-biden-europe-russia-vladimir-putin-91749e368bb54bdc42cd747496a21a2f

The Russian military on Friday announced massive drills of its strategic nuclear forces

which will involve multiple practice launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles and cruise missiles

Putin would observe the drills from the Defense Ministry’s situation room and supervise the practice missile launches himself.

On Saturday, Vladimir Putin will push a button which will start World War 3. In practice. I mean first they will all practice pushing the button, then the practice will end and it will be just Putin and a live button.

Kiev is going to get nuked and rightly so, militarily speaking. Putin can't afford a Stalingrad so he's not going to get drawn into an urban meatgrinder.

[unsunghero]

Supposedly there are 150k Russian troops on the front line and artillery shells have gone off

WW3 baby!

[Patriam1066]

Now Dino can use his guns on people other than black children who knock on his door, scaring the bejesus out of him

Pussy

[Gravydoo II]

Its bidens fault because he said putin is gonna do it, right?

[Trexller]

Its bidens fault because he said putin is gonna do it, right?

no its biden's (Dems) fault because the entire world knows he's a weak empty shell incapable of governing anything

when the cat is away the mouse will play, etc etc.

Biden will speak some words from a teleprompter, and then he'll huff, and he'll puff and blow nothing down.

[Zendir]

His boss tried when he was VO, now sleepy joe has taken a break from letting children run his legs in the pool to plan the deploying of troops to Ukraine, in what is probably the final movement of his symphony of destruction. This comes very conspicuously right after he received $31,000,000 from individuals tied to the highest levels of Chinese intel. Clearly China, in conjunction with our illegitimate dementia patient in chief, have been maneuvering to weaken us as a country. Artificial shortages, supply line disruptions, hyperinflation, and now they’re stirring up a conflict that no one but China will benefit from.

CNN link so as not to trigger the more mentally unstable pals on the forum:


https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/biden-troops-europe/index.html


tin foil hat alert

[starkind]

CNN pretty bad :mad:.

[Botten]

no its biden's (Dems) fault because the entire world knows he's a weak empty shell incapable of governing anything

when the cat is away the mouse will play, etc etc.

Biden will speak some words from a teleprompter, and then he'll huff, and he'll puff and blow nothing down.

What? Comparable to captain tuck-tail and hide after he let a foreign country bomb our base and cause brain damage to our troops?

Yeah you are making a lot of sense Texan. *boggle

[Reiwa]

Its bidens fault because he said putin is gonna do it, right?

If Russia had invaded on Wednesday, the statement lays the ground for casting it as naked Russian aggression.

They didn't, so Biden looks slightly silly. But that's ok cuz no invasion! 😎🍦

[Elizondo]

Z0YIJQ1jgEI

[Nocht]

Gravyboo probably thinks Trump did it anyway.

[BlackBellamy]

Gravyboo probably thinks Trump did it anyway.

When Trump had those whores piss all over him while he was busy jacking off furiously in that Moscow hotel, he turned around Putin's portrait on the wall so they wouldn't be making eye contact.

Putin never forgave America for that.

[Trexller]

When Trump had those whores piss all over him while he was busy jacking off furiously in that Moscow hotel, he turned around Putin's portrait on the wall so they wouldn't be making eye contact.

Putin never forgave America for that.

at the time, Putin was busy buying uranium from hilary clinton.

i thought what happens in a moscow hotel, stays in a moscow hotel

is nothing sacred anymore?

[Reiwa]

https://i.imgur.com/Zy3Pskh.png

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/Zy3Pskh.png

You're an OG republican. That died in 1960 or 70 or something with the assassination of JFK cuz he was going to disclose aliens.

[Botten]

If Russia had invaded on Wednesday, the statement lays the ground for casting it as naked Russian aggression.

They didn't, so Biden looks slightly silly. But that's ok cuz no invasion! 😎🍦

Looks like the Biden administration was right. Putin has started again to invade Ukraine. Just like they annex Crimea they are now taking two of these regions now.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-orders-russian-peacekeepers-eastern-ukraines-two-breakaway-regions-2022-02-21/

[starkind]

Looks like the Biden administration was right. Putin has started again to invade Ukraine. Just like they annex Crimea they are now taking two of these regions now.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-orders-russian-peacekeepers-eastern-ukraines-two-breakaway-regions-2022-02-21/

The diplomatic solution. He's probably got the goahead on those two and maybe 1 more.

[Elizondo]

T1409sXBleg

[unsunghero]

Looks like the Biden administration was right. Putin has started again to invade Ukraine. Just like they annex Crimea they are now taking two of these regions now.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-orders-russian-peacekeepers-eastern-ukraines-two-breakaway-regions-2022-02-21/

Welp, I have no idea why shithole Ukraine is worth dying for, but if they’re an ally then it’s time for Russia to lose

[Reiwa]

Welp, I have no idea why shithole Ukraine is worth dying for, but if they’re an ally then it’s time for Russia to lose

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=17014&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1645494635

Putin opened his speech today with declaring the fall of the Soviet Union a disaster and that it was "madness" that the former National Republics were allowed to become independent.

That is the Russian case for belligerence(casus belli) and it extends way beyond the Ukraine.

[unsunghero]

Putin opened his speech today with declaring the fall of the Soviet Union a disaster and that it was "madness" that the former National Republics were allowed to become independent.

That is the Russian case for belligerence(casus belli) and it extends way beyond the Ukraine.

And wayyy the F away from us

Seems like it’s more Europe’s problem than ours, so it should be more their solution than ours

[Reiwa]

And wayyy the F away from us

Seems like it’s more Europe’s problem than ours, so it should be more their solution than ours

Our leadership in NATO has bought the West nearly a century of peace and prosperity.

[unsunghero]

Our leadership in NATO has bought the West nearly a century of peace and prosperity.

Sweet deal. Russia threatens Europe, they sit back while our younger generation dies for them

One hell of a sweet deal

[Reiwa]

Sweet deal. Russia threatens Europe, they sit back while our younger generation dies for them

One hell of a sweet deal

They fight too and it keeps us from having to go over there in massive force for a third time.

[unsunghero]

They fight too and it keeps us from having to go over there in massive force for a third time.

I’m eager to see how Europe fights

If shit gets out of control and Russia attacks us here in a significant way I’ll totally be down to sign up to go die fighting them. No dependents, good at following orders, I’ll totally be down

But it will only be in retaliation for being attacked and not because Europe has found a way to make us their bitch, fighting their battles for them

[Reiwa]

I’m eager to see how Europe fights

If shit gets out of control and Russia attacks us here in a significant way I’ll totally be down to sign up to go die fighting them. No dependents, good at following orders, I’ll totally be down

But it will only be in retaliation for being attacked and not because Europe has found a way to make us their bitch, fighting their battles for them

Haha well ok, enjoy the lake of fire. :cool:

[Trexller]

If you voted for a democrat in the last 40 years, Ukrainian blood is on your hands, exactly right now.

the Russians, fuck it lets call it what they are, The Soviets have begun to occupy Ukrainian territory.

Thanks OBiden.

[unsunghero]

Haha well ok, enjoy the lake of fire. :cool:

That will be reserved for EU leaders who use American young adults as their fodder in their wars, or a pres who goes to war for a nobody country who’s not really an ally because his image is dogshit

Not for the grunts who die as a result

[Botten]

If you voted for a democrat in the last 40 years, Ukrainian blood is on your hands, exactly right now.

the Russians, fuck it lets call it what they are, The Soviets have begun to occupy Ukrainian territory.

Thanks OBiden.

Imagine if the previous administration didn’t help Russia economically by ignoring bipartisan sanctions from congress and didn’t allow them to develop military and economically in the Arctic (oil does help in war)

[starkind]

Russia would invade a South American country like Venezuela b4 they tried putting ground troops in the US ever. Chill out guys.

[Trexller]

Imagine if the previous administration didn’t help Russia economically by ignoring bipartisan sanctions from congress and didn’t allow them to develop military and economically in the Arctic (oil does help in war)

Imagine if the Obama admininstration didn't sell uranium to russia.

buncha dipshits

[unsunghero]

I’m probably just out of touch, but this is my uninformed opinion:

Military industrial complex wants money

EU needs young American men to die for their apparent future safety even though they are not themselves actually threatened yet

Biden needs a ratings boost

And we have a duty to defend our “sacred” ally

[Botten]

Imagine if the Obama admininstration didn't sell uranium to russia.

buncha dipshits

Now you just sound insane because uranium drains them of their money and Russia isn’t going to use Nukes on land they want.

Stop being crazy right.

[unsunghero]

I think if this thing goes ugly we are going to see the opposite of a ratings boost

I think we will probably start seeing some nationwide anti-war protests that make the Vietnam ones seem tame

[Trexller]

Now you just sound insane because uranium drains them of their money and Russia isn’t going to use Nukes on land they want.

Stop being crazy right.

uranium and processed by products have a shitload of uses beyond nuclear bombs, you'd know that if you had half a sense about anything. but you dont, just another head-in-the-clouds ignorant libtard, who received their education from watching anime and social media.

[Botten]

uranium and processed by products have a shitload of uses beyond nuclear bombs, you'd know that if you had half a sense about anything. but you dont, just another head-in-the-clouds ignorant libtard, who received their education from watching anime and social media.

You don’t even have a valid answer in your blind rage. Your idiot of a Republican president made Russia and the rest of his cronies extreme rich while reducing the power of NATO.

[Trexller]

You don’t even have a valid answer in your blind rage. Your idiot of a Republican president made Russia and the rest of his cronies extreme rich while reducing the power of NATO.

who the fuck cares? we didn't give them fucking uranium.

it was your token black guy who allowed putin to take the crimea territory in 2014, now your lame duck senile puppet is gonna allow putin to take the rest of it.

democrats have cut the balls off of america, no matter how you slice it.

[unsunghero]

I have to take off for a bit but will check later, but can anyone extrapolate how the hypothetical of Russia taking Ukraine = the beginning of the fall of Europe?

What would Russia do next, and how soon do we expect them to do it? And what could be NATO’s response. Aside from someone mentioning it here I haven’t heard what this doom could be, only because I haven’t looked tbh

[Botten]

Trexller seriously…

The NRA gave money to the RNC and financed Trump’s campaign. They even admitted to it. (https://www.everytown.org/press/new-nra-admits-financial-support-from-russian-official-reportedly-at-center-of-fbi-investigation/)

Did you think it wasn’t a gift to Putin to back out of treaties by Trump. Treaties that hurt Russia.

Did you think it wasn’t a gift to put sanctions on steal sold to the US by allies while the Trump administration thought it was unfair there were sanctions on Russian sold steal and removed them?

For crying out loud did you really think Donald JR was meeting Russians secretly to talk about orphans?

Wait you thought it was normal Trump agreed with Putin on National TV compared to our own CIA findings. And then later to have Trump takes it back?!

Oh wait it was normal for two to remove translators when they spoke on behave of the well being of both countries.

Wake up

[Trexller]

The NRA gave money to the RNC and financed Trump’s campaign. They even admitted to it. (https://www.everytown.org/press/new-nra-admits-financial-support-from-russian-official-reportedly-at-center-of-fbi-investigation/)

Did you think it wasn’t a gift to Putin to back out of treaties by Trump. Treaties that hurt Russia.

Did you think it wasn’t a gift to put sanctions on steal sold to the US by allies while the Trump administration thought it was unfair there were sanctions on Russian sold steal and removed them?

For crying out loud did you really think Donald JR was meeting Russians secretly to talk about orphans?

Wait you thought it was normal Trump agreed with Putin on National TV compared to our own CIA findings. And then later to have Trump takes it back?!

Oh wait it was normal for two to remove translators when they spoke on behave of the well being of both countries.

Wake up

lol you know libtards lost when they not only bring up the NRA, but open with it.

when democrats are elected president, world maps get redrawn.

every. single. time.

[Reiwa]

who the fuck cares? we didn't give them fucking uranium.

This but about Russia. They loaned like a gram to Canada for science research and we facilitated transferring it back.

[Botten]

lol you know libtards lost when they not only bring up the NRA, but open with it.

when democrats are elected president, world maps get redrawn.

every. single. time.

No the NRA lost and big… broken up and bankrupt (https://nrawatch.org/report/the-continued-decline-of-the-nra/)

You can’t live in Fox imaginary entertainment(words from Foxnew’s own lawyers) land forever.

[Trexller]

This but about Russia. They loaned like a gram to Canada for science research and we facilitated transferring it back.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/ny-times-hillary-clinton-approved-russian-uranium-deal-133318767.html

Canadian records show the chairman of Russian-owned Uranium One gave over $2 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation, which the Clintons’ didn’t disclose.

the U.S. State Department approved the sale of American uranium mines to the Russians (specifically ARMZ Uranium Holding Co., a subsidiary of the Russian government-controlled Rosatom State Atomic Energy Corporation) is the element that aroused the Senate Judiciary Committee’s suspicions. After all, the deal implied that Russia would own some 20% of the United States’ uranium reserves. (Source: “Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal,” The New York Times, April 23, 2015.)

[Reiwa]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/ny-times-hillary-clinton-approved-russian-uranium-deal-133318767.html

Don't care about Hillary, show me the uranium.

[Trexller]

can't you read ??

[Elizondo]

Imagine if the previous administration didn’t help Russia economically by ignoring bipartisan sanctions from congress and didn’t allow them to develop military and economically in the Arctic (oil does help in war)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674

Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline

The Biden administration has waived sanctions on a company building a controversial gas pipeline between Russia and Germany.

The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project.

The move came in a report on Russian sanctions delivered to Congress by the Department of State.

Critics say the pipeline is a major geopolitical prize for the Kremlin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-dems-block-cruzs-bill-to-impose-sanctions-on-russian-pipeline/ar-AASMUZL

Senate Dems BLOCK Cruz's bill to impose sanctions on Russian pipeline

Senate Democrats on Thursday defeated a bill by Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz that would have slammed sanctions on businesses involved in a Russian natural gas pipeline to Germany, denouncing it as a GOP political gesture that would have harmed relations with European allies.

[Homesteaded]

Trump, no wars in 4 years. Middle east peace agreements signed.

Biden 13 months in, rip the bandage off Afghanistan creating a power vacuum. Ukraine war imminent.

Great work libs.

[Botten]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-dems-block-cruzs-bill-to-impose-sanctions-on-russian-pipeline/ar-AASMUZL

You aren’t refuting what I said you’re just relating apples to oranges. That pipeline aids an ally.

Grasping at straws makes no point.

Nice try thou.

[Elizondo]

You aren’t refuting what I said you’re just relating apples to oranges. That pipeline aids an ally.

Grasping at straws makes no point.

Nice try thou.

hahahahaha ...

[BlackBellamy]

https://i.imgur.com/vt1KP6r.jpg

[Knowledge]

Great work libs! Setting us up for the End of the World!

[Homesteaded]

https://i.imgur.com/vt1KP6r.jpg

Pretty good swastikas! I bet because you have practice! NAZI CONFIRMED!

[Gravydoo II]

What are you gonna do about it besides crying?? You gonna flood the russians with your tears or something?

[Elizondo]

17016

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-698200

Ukraine crisis: Putin sends Russian tanks, hardware into Donetsk

Columns of military vehicles including tanks were seen in the early hours of Tuesday on the outskirts of Donetsk, the capital of one of two breakaway east Ukraine regions after Russian President Vladimir Putin recognized them as independent states.

[Knowledge]

Hair sniffing senile old man gonna save us!

[starkind]

They going to launch bombs with a new it's Wednesday my dudes?

I think a lot of Russians are actually kinda jealous Americans haven't been seriously bombed in living memory like the rest of the world.

[Evia]

Wait wait wait…
CANADA is where tyranny is happening. Freezing peaceful protesters bank accounts, arresting them, and freezing accounts of anyone helping them. Wake the fuck up guys!!
RUSSIA has moved some soldiers and tanks to Ukraine’s boarder. That’s the crime.

Media is twisting shit like crazy. Anyone who opposes the tyrannical mandates is being categorized as terrorists, white supremacist (wut?) and anti science. Next up concentration camps! But you can’t compare it to the Holocaust because it’s anti Semitic. Guys the signs are all the fuck around us! Wake up!

This is literally what history warned us about and you guys are doing doodles of Putin as hitler when Trudeau over in Canada is literally acting like hitler!

This isn’t theory or conspiracy theory shit lol. This is happening in real time.

Know them by their fruits!

[Reiwa]

Wait wait wait…
CANADA is where tyranny is happening. Freezing peaceful protesters bank accounts, arresting them, and freezing accounts of anyone helping them. Wake the fuck up guys!!
RUSSIA has moved some soldiers and tanks to Ukraine’s boarder. That’s the crime.

Media is twisting shit like crazy. Anyone who opposes the tyrannical mandates is being categorized as terrorists, white supremacist (wut?) and anti science. Next up concentration camps! But you can’t compare it to the Holocaust because it’s anti Semitic. Guys the signs are all the fuck around us! Wake up!

This is literally what history warned us about and you guys are doing doodles of Putin as hitler when Trudeau over in Canada is literally acting like hitler!

This isn’t theory or conspiracy theory shit lol. This is happening in real time.

Know them by their fruits!

Russia declared a revanchist campaign to reconquer Eastern Europe yesterday dude.

[Zendir]

Pretty good swastikas! I bet because you have practice! NAZI CONFIRMED!

Maybe if he drew a nazi swastika, you could say that.

[Elizondo]

Russia declared a revanchist campaign to reconquer Eastern Europe yesterday dude.

Black Face Hitler in Canada created a Totalitarian State without firing a shot

Lefties silent cuz that's what they want in the USA

[Botten]

Black Face Hitler in Canada created a Totalitarian State without firing a shot

Lefties silent cuz that's what they want in the USA

Elizondo a raving Trumptard loon.

Shouldn't you be on your new social media site you know that echo chamber of safe space named Truth?

[Reiwa]

Black Face Hitler in Canada created a Totalitarian State without firing a shot

Lefties silent cuz that's what they want in the USA

That wasn't yesterday.

[Elizondo]

Taiwan gonna be the next domino to fall

Failed prez Biden will be lickin his frosty cone from McDonald's preppin for afternoon nappy time

[Botten]

Taiwan gonna be the next domino to fall

Failed prez Biden will be lickin his frosty cone from McDonald's preppin for afternoon nappy time

Milley: China Wants Capability to Take Taiwan by 2027, Sees No Near-term Intent to Invade (https://news.usni.org/2021/06/23/milley-china-wants-capability-to-take-taiwan-by-2027-sees-no-near-term-intent-to-invade)

You have some time you loon.

[Elizondo]

Milley: China Wants Capability to Take Taiwan by 2027, Sees No Near-term Intent to Invade (https://news.usni.org/2021/06/23/milley-china-wants-capability-to-take-taiwan-by-2027-sees-no-near-term-intent-to-invade)

You have some time you loon.

c-W9cgYcXjE

lol

[Botten]

Elizondo use whataboutism. *no one is surpised
Let's try Elizondo's logic now...

Just for you Elizondo

17017

[Elizondo]

Botten just projecting

Biden/Milley were wrong about The Taliban. I merely pointed that out which means they have zero credibility in regards to their predictions bout the red dragon

botten beclownin himself postin about orange super prez new blue bird forums and claimin 'whataboutism'

classic projection cuz botten a mentally ill libtard

[Botten]

Botten just projecting

Biden/Milley were wrong about The Taliban. I merely pointed that out which means they have zero credibility in regards to their predictions bout the red dragon

botten beclownin himself postin about orange super prez new blue bird forums and claimin 'whataboutism'

classic projection cuz botten a mentally ill libtard

President Joe Biden assured the country in July that a Taliban victory in Afghanistan was not inevitable and that it was “highly unlikely” that the Taliban would take over the entire country.

Milley himself foot-stomped this point when he told reporters later in July that while a Taliban military victory was a possibility, it was also “not a foregone conclusion.”

so no the two aren't related.

Get your information correct don't pick and choose out of context you typical alt right crazy.

[Elizondo]

so no the two aren't related.

Get your information correct don't pick and choose out of context you typical alt right crazy.

Who advised Biden to abandon Bagram Air Base?

Botten in a tough spot. Has to choose between failed prez Biden and Milley. Decisions. Decisions ....

Oh and Milley blatantly lied about Afghan Troop strength

https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2021-07-30qr.pdf

[Botten]

Who advised Biden to abandon Bagram Air Base?

Botten in a tough spot. Has to choose between failed prez Biden and Milley. Decisions. Decisions ....

Oh and Milley blatantly lied about Afghan Troop strength

https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2021-07-30qr.pdf

So you didn't like that fact you were caught cherry picking out of context.

And now...
"but but what about air base..."

"but but he blatantly lied about Afghan Troop strength"

READ: Top general: Officials haven't lied about Afghanistan (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/20/afghanistan-papers-mark-milley-pentagon-088735)

Elizondo you are showing your extreme voter Trump side.

[Knowledge]

Fuck Biden

[Elizondo]

So you didn't like that fact you were caught cherry picking out of context.

And now...
"but but what about air base..."

"but but he blatantly lied about Afghan Troop strength"

READ: Top general: Officials haven't lied about Afghanistan (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/20/afghanistan-papers-mark-milley-pentagon-088735)

Elizondo you are showing your extreme voter Trump side.

Politico ... lol

Biden said Milley told him to abandon Bagram Air base

Milley says he told Biden the exact opposite


Who's lying?

[JayDee]

I feel like that tool song about tidal waves and the ground giving way

[Elizondo]

17018

[Gravydoo II]

BDS is real. They are infected with the biden derangement syndrome. It makes you root for countries like russia over your own.

[walfreyydo]

Newsflash: you dont need religion in order live a righteous, moral life where we are kind to other people...

What's right, whats wrong, whats moral and what is not. Its called "the golden rule" - treat others as you'd like to be treated.

As the great Jesse Ventura said:

“Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live.”

[Botten]

BDS is real. They are infected with the biden derangement syndrome. It makes you root for countries like russia over your own.

Poll: Trump voters now twice as likely as Biden voters to say Russia-Ukraine conflict is 'none of America’s business' (https://news.yahoo.com/poll-trump-voters-now-twice-as-likely-as-biden-voters-to-say-russia-ukraine-conflict-is-none-of-americas-business-155356944.html)

Tucker is really influencing them.

It is sad. Trump voters feel they have to be in support of Russia to keep up their imaginary view that Russia didn't interfere with our 2016 elections as the Mueller report concluded.

Elizondo is the perfect example of alt right extreme denial.

[Jibartik]

That's because all that is left in the democratic party retardas like the ones that thought we should invade iraq over WMD's because the parties flipped.

Stupid asses deserve the world you live in today.

[Homesteaded]

Newsflash: you dont need religion in order live a righteous, moral life where we are kind to other people...

What's right, whats wrong, whats moral and what is not. Its called "the golden rule" - treat others as you'd like to be treated.

As the great Jesse Ventura said:

“Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live.”

Yeah I get that you think just because you say that and it seems to make sense it must be true. It's just not true in practice. The Ubermensch isn't a viable system.

[Trexller]

Poll: Trump voters now twice as likely as Biden voters to say Russia-Ukraine conflict is 'none of America’s business' (https://news.yahoo.com/poll-trump-voters-now-twice-as-likely-as-biden-voters-to-say-russia-ukraine-conflict-is-none-of-americas-business-155356944.html)

Tucker is really influencing them.

It is sad. Trump voters feel they have to be in support of Russia to keep up their imaginary view that Russia didn't interfere with our 2016 elections as the Mueller report concluded.

Elizondo is the perfect example of alt right extreme denial.

i feel you there. im torn. on one hand i figure that the only acceptable reason for one country to roll on another's is basically genocide or worse, but on the other hand i love all things that go BOOM!!

[Jibartik]

Pay very close attention to how they say that there are Russians in Donbass and there have been since 2014.

Listen to them tell you that they’ve been there for six years but now they’re calling it an invasion.

The American government and the Democratic Party is trying to start a World War III so that they can control the global economy and you are the ones that are going to go die in it.

I don’t care if you think that I’m wrong it doesn’t matter because in three years I will be proven right.

[azeth]

Anyone else feeling like we ought to just go ahead and attack Moscow while Russia is preoccupied? Just get rid of that whole fucking country

[Trexller]

Anyone else feeling like we ought to just go ahead and attack Moscow while Russia is preoccupied? Just get rid of that whole fucking country

no way bro you gotta keep that ace in the hole for the real threat. we'll "allow" china to push on taiwan, and then when they are exhausted from trying to attack an island that is actually one gigantic fortress,then we attack Beiijing

[starkind]

I don't blame either of our recent presidents personally. I do blame the cabal they belong to.

We probably did trigger this timeline invading Iraq in the 90s tho. We probably already where doing stuff by 88 tho.

And we definitely blew up and fucked with a lot of crucial soviets stuff that wasn't military targets even all throughout the 1940-90s.

Let's not forget Iran contra.

We should have backed the soviets fully. The cabal didn't want that tho. Now they're going with China. While we implode over economic labels and identities.

[Elizondo]

17020

[starkind]

Everything is going according to plan.

Relax citizens.

[Elizondo]

Higher Gas Prices INC

Thanks Libs

[unsunghero]

17020

[unsunghero]

Higher Gas Prices INC

Thanks Libs

[Elizondo]

E_FQebdF83o

[Gravydoo II]

So he didnt get accused of like 50 crimes??

[Reiwa]

We should have backed the soviets fully.

What the fuck maam?

You better come through with some boobs soon!! :mad:

[Trexller]

https://i.imgur.com/EyKtXF1.jpg

Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle!

God Damn Democrats

[Elizondo]

Putin takin down raid mobs while Biden pickin his teeth

[azeth]

Putin takin down raid mobs while Biden pickin his teeth

When you're so brianwashed by Trump you actually root for fucking communist Russia. What happened to all of you?

[Botten]

QAnon Followers Gleefully Back Vladimir Putin's Invasion of Ukraine (https://www.newsweek.com/qaon-followers-gleefully-back-vladimir-putins-invasion-ukraine-1681398)

You Trumptard’s are truly Psychos. But of course they support the country that funneled money through the NRA to the RNC. They need that bankroll money in the next campaign.

[Elizondo]

QAnon Followers Gleefully Back Vladimir Putin's Invasion of Ukraine (https://www.newsweek.com/qaon-followers-gleefully-back-vladimir-putins-invasion-ukraine-1681398)

You Trumptard’s are truly Psychos. But of course they support the country that funneled money through the NRA to the RNC. They need that bankroll money in the next campaign.

some silly lib attempts at damage control

Biden failed (again)

Sucks for everyone

[Horza]

Putin takin down raid mobs while Biden pickin his teeth

Patriotic Republicans are really upset we won't appease Putin.

[Botten]

some silly lib attempts at damage control

Biden failed (again)

Sucks for everyone

January 6th coup attempt and now Qanon Trumptards are Pro-Russia.

The GOP is going to be known as the party of traitors from now on.

[unsunghero]

When you're so brianwashed by Trump you actually root for fucking communist Russia. What happened to all of you?

I’m not rooting for Russia. I don’t believe Putin is going to attempt to take over Europe no matter what he or NATO says. And I don’t trust war hawk politicians since the Iraq WMD debacle

But if Russia does anything to the USA, I’m totally down to enlist to kill some if needed as I said before

[Elizondo]

Patriotic Republicans are really upset we won't appease Putin.

lol Biden making Putin super rich, stupid

[starkind]

Everything is going according to plan.

Relax citizens.

Same cabal.

Gg citizens.

Just relax and chill.

Do some Amazon therapy.

[BlackBellamy]

Maybe if he drew a nazi swastika, you could say that.

It must have bugged you that he knew exactly what I drew even though it didn't meet your criteria. And because he knew, and everyone else did too, it was a Nazi Swastika.

[unsunghero]

Putin’s own people aren’t going to like the damage the upcoming sanctions are going to do to their businesses and Russia’s economy

They can’t vote him out, but even a totalitarian leader might have his authority tested in other ways eventually

[starkind]

I doubt he really wants to be loved or worshipped. He enjoys the infamy. It's not his primary motivation though. So this isn't about popularity or short term quarterly earnings. I don't see it in his eyes at all. None of that matters to him one iota.

The word is used in a common English phrase, "not one iota", meaning "not the slightest amount". This refers to iota, the smallest letter, or possibly yodh, י, the smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet. The English word jot derives from iota.[4] The German, Portuguese, and Spanish name for the letter J (Jot / jota) is derived from iota.

[Botten]

lol Biden making Putin super rich, stupid

How the hell is Biden making Putin rich? Did the ghost of John F Kennedy Junior tell you that?

Oh before you repeat that Trump garbage about the Germany pipeline (you know where Trump was relating Germany to making Russia rich as a reason to contribute less to NATO as a favor to Putin); maybe you should realize it was Germany decision to make and the deal is now halted.

But I can see how you want us to talk over our allies; after all it aligns with your traitor like Trump Qanon party.

A failed coup and now Trump’s Qanon voters routing for Russia. The GOP is pitiful disgrace of a party.