Before industrialization and colonialitis.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/CLiHYGv.jpeg

I guess he didn't start experiencing organ failure in his 30s like most of you plebes lol.

[bubur]

man

[F0rmsh1fter]

Nah he was 137 MOONS old. Basically about 11 and a half. He just looked old as fuck cos he slept on the ground and ate berries and squirrels and shit

[starkind]

sleeping on the ground and eating berries is good for u lawl

[F0rmsh1fter]

Yeah but you end up looking like a scrotum by the time you’re 10

[BlackBellamy]

Before industrialization and colonization everyone died at age 12 of the plague and the shits, right after giving birth.

Colonization was the greatest gift to the peoples of earth. Imagine a whole peoples selflessly enduring terrible hardships to spread knowledge and improve the lives of people everywhere? Would the Chinese have done it? The Indians, the Arabs, the Africans? No. Thank you selfless Europeans, the world truly owes you, including the world oldest lying Indian.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Before industrialization and colonization everyone died at age 12 of the plague and the shits, right after giving birth.

Colonization was the greatest gift to the peoples of earth. Imagine a whole peoples selflessly enduring terrible hardships to spread knowledge and improve the lives of people everywhere? Would the Chinese have done it? The Indians, the Arabs, the Africans? No. Thank you selfless Europeans, the world truly owes you, including the world oldest lying Indian.

And yet they hate our people for it. How ungrateful

[unsunghero]

There is an old Native American saying:

[Homesteaded]

Eating shit has never been a healthy choice.

[Ooloo]

He lived to be old in spite of being a native, not because of it. most of them died cause they lost a tooth or something and their brain got infected immediately and they died at like 20, which is how most people most of the time died back then.

Thank god for modern medicine and antibiotics!

[realsubtle]

Personally, I don't have anything against my ancestors, but I'm not going to bullshit myself about their failings, their ignorances, and their many acts of barbarity, any more than I bullshit myself about any of my family members being perfect or, haha, "selfless". "Wow, Victorian England, you guys sluiced your sewage into your own drinking water creating a massive cholera outbreak, became drug dealers and tried to plunder the silver wealth of China by getting their whole population addicted to opium, and caused massive famines in India which could have been prevented if you had eased up on your draconian grain-export policies? Thats pretty fucked up! Rest in peace, you old bitches."

[Ooloo]

Colonialism for all it's evils also greatly improved the quality of life in many areas for generations afterward. Most of the people who complain about it would never want to actually undo it's effects, because they'd inevitably want to keep all the good stuff that they presently enjoy.

Like, global illiteracy would be *way* higher without colonialism, perpetrated by all sorts of people. It's not all bad!

[Jibartik]

5 star thread.

All the medicine and technology has provided us with is 4chan and a 21 year old video game.

We need to end this luciferin charade!

[F0rmsh1fter]

He lived to be old in spite of being a native, not because of it. most of them died cause they lost a tooth or something and their brain got infected immediately and they died at like 20, which is how most people most of the time died back then.

Thank god for modern medicine and antibiotics!

Nah antibiotics are the reason people like horza survived childhood and grew up to be pink haired internet commies. Antibiotics have done more damage to our species than social media

[Jibartik]

Colonialism for all it's evils also greatly improved the quality of life in many areas for generations afterward.

WONG!

https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/poor-but-happy

:o

All industiral progress, anything that takes us from the garden: clothes, coke bottles, you name it. All of it is Satanism designed to turn you into a pod person.

[Jibartik]

Medicine is satanism and with a rod of iron they will defeat god and build wings of their own!

https://i.imgur.com/80h9Czt.png

BEWARE: IT'S NOT A CONSPIRACY IF IT'S OUR WAY OF LIFE!

[Ooloo]

Well I dunno about satanism jib I'm not a religious person but I *have* seen research that shows some of the happiest people in the world (based on their replies to surveys measuring it) are people who live in some remote part of northern siberia, where life is absolute hell, but they're so isolated from the outside world they don't know anything else, and actually live peaceful happy lives as a result.

I mean they don't even have everquest.

[Reiwa]

Like, global illiteracy would be *way* higher without colonialism, perpetrated by all sorts of people. It's not all bad!

Leave it to a Lutherist to be pro-literacy. 😬

[Jibartik]

Well I dunno about satanism jib I'm not a religious person but I *have* seen research that shows some of the happiest people in the world (based on their replies to surveys measuring it) are people who live in some remote part of northern siberia, where life is absolute hell, but they're so isolated from the outside world they don't know anything else, and actually live peaceful happy lives as a result.

I mean they don't even have everquest.

I hate to say it but the things I love about tech and science are just distractions.

The things that make me truelly happy dont need any of that.

The medicine that saved my loved ones, often saved them from something a modern convenience caused them.

Also the only reason I can ever argue that we need tech, is because we're sure that eventually the sun will burn out and we'll all die.

But that's just fear mongering again. Why is it always fear mongering that wins an argument about progress. It makes me so sad.

Another thing that I find dubious is that progress always, comes at a cost. This is because of entropy. If you burn mroe fire, you burn more wood.

At what point do you stop burning wood? I dont think EVER.. I think that we would cut off our noses despite our faces, just for progress. That scares me.

Sometimes I think we need to take a step back, but then again who knows, dont want to end up like the dinosaurs. But there we go again with that appcolypto fear mongering.

[unsunghero]

This is the actual Native American saying btw

[unsunghero]

Personally, I don't have anything against my ancestors, but I'm not going to bullshit myself about their failings, their ignorances, and their many acts of barbarity, any more than I bullshit myself about any of my family members being perfect or, haha, "selfless"

Reminds me of a meme

[Jibartik]

This is the actual Native American saying btw

the last line of this poem is cut off:

"*takes a long long pull off a bottle of jack denials."

[Jibartik]

Thanks progress for inventing fermentation.

[Topgunben]

the last line of this poem is cut off:

"*takes a long long pull off a bottle of jack denials."

You racist bastard.

[Jibartik]

You racist bastard.

lol its not racism if im pointing out the way progress corrupts everything even causing food to destroy entire generations of lives by inventing fermentation.

:o

or if I have to gain points with the left, the systematic oppresion the american establishment has put on a race of people it attempted to genocide :o (the progress caused invention of goverment)

[Jibartik]

hmm

prostetics is a good argument for tech.

I think being able to fix people born with deformaties and give them a full life is pretty much worth all the cancer and war maybe? idk.

just thought of that one

or is all the wars cancer and auto accidents creating more deformities than births would? 🤔

[starkind]

I will respond in good detail. However things can be both good and bad.
Most of what modernity brings us is fear mongering and in the case of pharmaceuticals purity and concentration.

Yet we have cancer. Plastic. Heart disease, obesity etc...

Also I was strong once. I know how strong people should be. Many males my age are even weaker than I in my weekend state. This should not be. It bodes very ill for civilization.