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Midoo
01-06-2022, 10:38 PM
I never played live and I'm curious about EQ's post-Velious content, so I tried playing other servers. With player counts almost rivaling P99 it seemed promising on the surface, but I was very displeased to find those three digit figures were just ten people in total each multiboxing giant raid balls of 50 characters and quietly jerking off in the corner of PoK all day.

How the fuck do people think this is normal? Why don't you go play a singleplayer game instead? Maybe Live died because motherfuckers with social anxiety figured out how to automate spellcasts on 20 game clients and started playing an MMO like an RTS.

Rant aside, is there a single post-classic Everquest private server somewhere that forbids multiboxing?

bubur
01-06-2022, 10:49 PM
tldr i duno

maybe you should try live prog servers. should be a new one around may-june time. great way to experience post-velious content on a rail

boxing isn't "forbidden" on truebox but they make you use a second computer to do it, plus finance two accounts, and so most people don't, and any guild worth playing in will not let you get double dkp. mine encouraged everyone to focus on one char because most boxers play both their chars like trash

but you'll encounter boxers there, so not an option that just outright offends you

also it will probably only cost you money for the first month, after that you'll just use krono if you play more than an hr a day on average

starkind
01-06-2022, 11:56 PM
U should launch one.

Live is riddled with box armies and automation. People play live like it's a single player party game. Even on the "truebox" servers. Tho 90% of the time ppl will be nice if you ask for help anyway. Just don't expect to get anywhere without a boxxed alt or two.

Swish
01-07-2022, 12:34 AM
If there is its hard to enforce.

Torven
01-07-2022, 05:15 AM
Not all the other 'three digit' servers allow unlimited boxing. The Al'Kabor Project lists how many one, two and three boxers there are online at any given time. (max is 3) There are roughly as many one box players as three box players.

starkind
01-07-2022, 09:01 AM
Not all the other 'three digit' servers allow unlimited boxing. The Al'Kabor Project lists how many one, two and three boxers there are online at any given time. (max is 3) There are roughly as many one box players as three box players.

that just shows how many ppl are 4 box'n around the rules :p

and yes b4 u say nuh uh

the number of 'four people' hanging out doing nothing while the 'main' does all the work is incredibly steep lewls

people already have stables and stables of every classs

they should just disable boxing and make it so u start at lvl 60

loramin
01-07-2022, 02:10 PM
The fundamental reason why no one but P99 does single-boxing is that having a single-boxed server isn't a technical issue ... it's a human one.

To have a single-box server you need GMs who actively police that policy. No other server has such dedicated staff, or any interest in trying to recruit a community of them, so they do the easy thing and don't police boxing.

P.S. To be fair there absolutely is a technical aspect too, with blocking the same IP address and stuff, but my point is VPNs will always get around that unless you have 2-boxing "police".

kgallowaypa
01-07-2022, 02:16 PM
The fundamental reason why no one but P99 does single-boxing is that having a single-boxed server isn't a technical issue ... it's a human one.

To have a single-box server you need GMs who actively police that policy. No other server has such dedicated staff, or any interest in trying to recruit a community of them, so they do the easy thing and don't police boxing.

P.S. To be fair there absolutely is a technical aspect too, with blocking the same IP address and stuff, but my point is VPNs will always get around that unless you have 2-boxing "police".

As unfortunate as it sounds, I believe you are right..the only hope is for the staff to release expansions on p99 for that dream to be realized.

Mblake1981
01-07-2022, 02:21 PM
the only hope is for the staff to release expansions on p99 for that dream to be realized.

https://i.imgur.com/N5ynGGk.gif

loramin
01-07-2022, 02:59 PM
As unfortunate as it sounds, I believe you are right..the only hope is for the staff to release expansions on p99 for that dream to be realized.

I'm not saying it's impossible; obviously P99 has done it, so others could too someday.

I'm just saying that most EQ servers are run by a single nerd who installed and tweaked the EQ Emu software ... ie. a "dev". For another community to have P99's (one-box) success, they would need someone with a skillset extended beyond just "dev" . They'd need a community builder and organizer, ie. a "manager" and "recruiter".

Tann
01-07-2022, 03:05 PM
Not all the other 'three digit' servers allow unlimited boxing. The Al'Kabor Project lists how many one, two and three boxers there are online at any given time. (max is 3) There are roughly as many one box players as three box players.

I had always just divided the listed server pop by 3 for a rough estimate of how many people playing, usually on par with p99 red. Didn't know they listed things separately.

Torven
01-07-2022, 04:11 PM
The fundamental reason why no one but P99 does single-boxing is that having a single-boxed server isn't a technical issue ... it's a human one.

To have a single-box server you need GMs who actively police that policy. No other server has such dedicated staff, or any interest in trying to recruit a community of them, so they do the easy thing and don't police boxing.

P.S. To be fair there absolutely is a technical aspect too, with blocking the same IP address and stuff, but my point is VPNs will always get around that unless you have 2-boxing "police".

This is correct. The biggest obstacle to a new one-box server using TAKP's source and database is this. Finding competent and reliable people to GM for free is near impossible; and even if you find them, building trust is required because nobody can read minds. Be grateful p99 exists. I don't know how they manage it.

cd288
01-07-2022, 05:39 PM
The fundamental reason why no one but P99 does single-boxing is that having a single-boxed server isn't a technical issue ... it's a human one.

To have a single-box server you need GMs who actively police that policy. No other server has such dedicated staff, or any interest in trying to recruit a community of them, so they do the easy thing and don't police boxing.

P.S. To be fair there absolutely is a technical aspect too, with blocking the same IP address and stuff, but my point is VPNs will always get around that unless you have 2-boxing "police".

This is correct. This is why on live there technically wasn’t a rule against it but when we had the resources to we would police it if it was causing zone disruption or otherwise allowing people to camp things without allowing others to participate