Hi Red, blue here

[tycohunden]

So I'm a blue player interested in pvp but not in the red server.
Do you guys have chars on blue/green aswell as red?
I have some ideas about pvp that I'd like to talk with you about!

[Tassador]

Nope

[tycohunden]

It's all so tiresome... But what do I know.

[starkind]

At least you're trying.

I have a 52, 51, and 54 on red. I wish I cared more to play them. Not because of pvp. Because there's just not much I can do at those levels in all honesty, that matters to the server.

"Haven't really had the time to play so much. So, haven't logged in red lately. I think my cleric is still in sanctuary. Sometimes I have the itch to log in wizard once in awhile or make a new alt there lol.

I don't want to beg for gear and stuff. The thing that hurts red players the most is people getting exp/gear and quitting. Or bailing to the zerg.

In a perfect world we'd have a fresh server that stayed outa velious poopsock wasteland forever content. I'm just not even hardcore bluebie enough to do pixel quest... yet . .. can't say never!"

I suppose sometimes I wish I had a geared druid or finally geared my cleric available to help ppl do stuff or something every once in awhile when I get the itch. It just doesn't feel right though. Because I've been known to just hit 60 and disappear.

All this talk makes me want to log in and setup hotkeys tho.

I just dinged 21 again on green.

Idk rly.

[Jibartik]

great ideas are great ideas until you get the pvp shakes

[New_Guy]

So I'm a blue player interested in pvp but not in the red server.
Do you guys have chars on blue/green aswell as red?
I have some ideas about pvp that I'd like to talk with you about!

I don't get it, it's a fictional character in a fictional land, who cares if you die?

Just rush in and die a bunch till you learn some stuff and then fist everybody with your newfound knowledge.

Anybody can raid dragons, the true art is farming players, and nothing is more thrilling or intoxicating than swimming through the ocean of tears you created.

[tycohunden]

I just want someone to talk to... I have so many ideas... I want a united everquest!

[Gustoo]

The only way you can unite EverQuest is to pvp enable everyone.

There could theoretically be safe zones to hand hold like cities and nearby zones but that wouldn’t solve any problems. Talk about your theory quest openly here, no need to PM. I like theory quest

[starkind]

my idea is an alternate universe portal

so there's raid pixels in both the normal and alternate universe

once u go thru portal to alternate universe u have to do a quest to get back to the blue one

in the red one drop chances are increased by 50%, exp given 100% more and u get like 10% more coin drops

alternate universe is completely FFA tho.

[New_Guy]

You can all theory craft as much as you want but red died for the same reason Sullon did.

Sullon Zek was the largest server on EQ. YES, more pop than any blue server ever had.

But the playerbase began to drop when 10 players duped millions of plat, RMT'd every peace of gear and bought the insane speed horses. They were all using ShowEQ as well.

The guild Vengeance enabled the entire Evil team to farm uncontested, until the power gap was too large.

I had to get the Head GM Grizzlewoth to shadow me fighting Kirban on Speedd to prove he was using ShowEQ and get his ass banned.

Same thing happened here, 10 cheaters the GM's ignored ran off the playerbase and they are all still here waiting to do it again the moment you reset.

[tycohunden]

OK hear me out!
Red should be a thing on blue and green, but it should come at a cost!
Like being red in UO sort of.
A 3rd faction with some punishment, but also rewards!
How about this:
Max three buffs! Where silly puny blues can have 15? Buffs, chad Red can only have three!
Want a torpor, click off haste ya bloody bigot!

See, I know what we all want, for EQ to be what it (I suspect) was meant to be by the OG devs, a massive pvp game, which probably got shot down by meek loser publicers.
But how do we undo the damage made by the horrid min/max:ers deleveling destroyers of pvp?
This is the true game we need to play, public relations! We need to beckon in the horde of normies. We need rules!
Rule based pvp!

[Gustoo]

Maybe just state your rule set ideas plainly. 3 buffs way too little.

Deleveling is already solved though. It was fixed during live.
Seems like a lot of the things you’re worried about are already fixed.

[Tradesonred]

If you want debuffs you put someone on cancel magic. Hope that helped.

[tycohunden]

Reds can't use dispell LOL
and no charged clickies!
If you delevel you stop being red.
Rules to cap out the autists...
This isn't about you, it's about inviting normies.

[New_Guy]

Reds can't use dispell LOL
and no charged clickies!
If you delevel you stop being red.
Rules to cap out the autists...
This isn't about you, it's about inviting normies.

There is already a large enough playerbase to support red and none of your rules would address the problems that plagued the red server here.

No amount of rules or training wheels will allow Blues to tolerate a red environment, the moment you got killed you would cry and ask for more and more rules until you quit.

If you can't handle penalties from death play WoW, don't try to change EQ PvP because it doesn't have enough safe spaces for you.

And if you ever enabled a monstrosity of a server like that I would band together with the other reds to release the dogs of war upon you and grief you off the box.

You wouldn't last a month.

[tycohunden]

There is already a large enough playerbase to support red and none of your rules would address the problems that plagued the red server here.

No amount of rules or training wheels will allow Blues to tolerate a red environment, the moment you got killed you would cry and ask for more and more rules until you quit.

If you can't handle penalties from death play WoW, don't try to change EQ PvP because it doesn't have enough safe spaces for you.

And if you ever enabled a monstrosity of a server like that I would band together with the other reds to release the dogs of war upon you and grief you off the box.

You wouldn't last a month.

You sound super popular! Everything anyone ever said that sounded bad about pvp was all easily changed by rules.
I wouldn't want to be around you, but I would like to invite the full experience of EQ into every server. I hate lonely empty games and you understand you can handle that, like you can handle empty lonely life without ending it, you're strong!
I would like to be griefed on, and have the choice to end my career as red, which is what I'm proposing, not being locked down beside you, but to have the choice, with negative and positive, with rules that lock you nutcases down... As with anything, you can easily be countered. Clickies are gay and so are you.
I played 2 hours on Rallos Zek, where I was hunted by a level 12 necro. I still enjoyed it, even though it didn't seem like he did...
My wish is for everyone to enjoy it, and when I see blue progress I realize that the thing people want the most is access. If being red gave you access, no matter the rules set people would flock to it, and with a targer rich environment you would thrive.

[tycohunden]

There is already a large enough playerbase to support red and none of your rules would address the problems that plagued the red server here.

No amount of rules or training wheels will allow Blues to tolerate a red environment, the moment you got killed you would cry and ask for more and more rules until you quit.

If you can't handle penalties from death play WoW, don't try to change EQ PvP because it doesn't have enough safe spaces for you.

And if you ever enabled a monstrosity of a server like that I would band together with the other reds to release the dogs of war upon you and grief you off the box.

You wouldn't last a month.

You use spacing like reddit :D

[New_Guy]

You sound super popular! Everything anyone ever said that sounded bad about pvp was all easily changed by rules.
I wouldn't want to be around you, but I would like to invite the full experience of EQ into every server. I hate lonely empty games and you understand you can handle that, like you can handle empty lonely life without ending it, you're strong!
I would like to be griefed on, and have the choice to end my career as red, which is what I'm proposing, not being locked down beside you, but to have the choice, with negative and positive, with rules that lock you nutcases down... As with anything, you can easily be countered. Clickies are gay and so are you.
I played 2 hours on Rallos Zek, where I was hunted by a level 12 necro. I still enjoyed it, even though it didn't seem like he did...
My wish is for everyone to enjoy it, and when I see blue progress I realize that the thing people want the most is access. If being red gave you access, no matter the rules set people would flock to it, and with a targer rich environment you would thrive.

But ironically what your asking for is exactly what would kill the server. Zerg's kill red, Zergs are born from players who want pixels and don't want to fight for them.

You are confusing what would make YOU want to play Red which is watering it down till it doesn't resemble itself anymore, and what would make Red's want to play red.

Blues don't survive on red, and there is no amount of rules that will ever make it acceptable for you, because the thing you really have a problem with, is the PvP.

No one ever left a red server because it was toxic or too much PvP, they left for the opposite reason, one guild grew too large and PvP stopped. The server was always the most popular when 2-4 guilds were having solid fights vs one another, you would hate that environment and prefer Red as it is now, dead pixelquest.

And yes you are correct, I am an awful terrible person who thrives on the misery of my victims. The most hated man to walk this server and Sullon Zek.

[Imago]

The most hated man to walk this server.

Eh. Other thread kinda proves you were annoying but definitely not most hated.

[New_Guy]

Eh. Other thread kinda proves you were annoying but definitely not most hated.

Hey don't take my word for it, just search all the threads with Syft or Burgerking, good luck finding somebody that spawned more hate threads than me.

One held the record for like 8 years as the largest and most read thread. I'm sure every nerd here wants to claim they were not mad, but their constant sperging proves otherwise.

https://imgur.com/a/lAOiBHg