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ScarabBp
12-15-2021, 04:55 PM
The question is, can we use multi-button mice, like Razer or Steelseries.

Sorry for the dumb question. I think I saw a post that sounded like the answer was no. Most post seem like the answer is yes.

I don’t think mouse commands 1-8 will work on the Eq client. Is binding a keyboard key per mouse button ok?

Sorry again for the dumb question. Thanks!

starkind
12-15-2021, 05:32 PM
If you program them for keypresses with like their little hotkey apps sure. So u can make ur lil side button input ctrl alt x for example.

loramin
12-15-2021, 05:45 PM
From the Play Nice Polices (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349) (left off some bolding for clarity):

5. You may not use third-party programs on Project 1999.

The use of any third-party programs on Project 1999, including but not limited to, Macroquest/Macroquest2(MQ/MQ2), ShowEQ(SEQ), or any other program that interacts with the Everquest Titanium Client, is strictly prohibited. Use of any third-party programs will be detected and will result in the permanent banning of your account(s). No exceptions will be made, and once a ban has been enacted for violation of this rule it will not be reversed.

This includes programmable keyboards or other devices that creates multiple inputs for a single keystroke or automated task.

Wineq2 by Lavishsoft is the exception to this rule. In addition, any program that strictly reads log files is acceptable.

In other words, it's perfectly legal, as long as you don't program the mouse button to do 2+ things. Making it just press one button, like any keyboard key can, is effectively the same as pressing a keyboard key, so it's allowed.

starkind
12-15-2021, 06:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ZNuelE8.jpeg

Who put that icon!

I only suggested doing 1 action with it.

My hotkeys r is like altshiftS, a, d, q, e, w etc....

Shurely modifiers+a single keystrokes legal

loramin
12-15-2021, 07:00 PM
Shurely modifiers+a single keystrokes legal

That'd be my thought, but the PnP doesn't clarify. I mean, you could certainly make the argument that in classic times they didn't have "CTRL + X"-pushing buttons ... so maybe they do really mean a single key?

Swish
12-15-2021, 08:45 PM
I'm seeing streamers with map applications despite "no third party programs"...so as long as you know you're not hurting anyone and just want to click a side button to hit a hotkey like sit/call incoming then I don't see how anyone could be annoyed.

Tunabros
12-15-2021, 11:30 PM
I'm seeing streamers with map applications despite "no third party programs"...so as long as you know you're not hurting anyone and just want to click a side button to hit a hotkey like sit/call incoming then I don't see how anyone could be annoyed.

lol

Mblake1981
12-16-2021, 10:11 AM
Hey Siri, get me walking directions to Upper Guk

loramin
12-16-2021, 12:00 PM
I'm seeing streamers with map applications despite "no third party programs"

Map applications don't interfere with the EQ client (ie. aren't "3rd party programs" in that sense): they're completely separate programs , that just happen to read the log files the EQ client produces. As such, they don't break the rules here.

Mblake1981
12-16-2021, 01:01 PM
Map applications don't interfere with the EQ client (ie. aren't "3rd party programs" in that sense): they're completely separate programs , that just happen to read the log files the EQ client produces. As such, they don't break the rules here.

fully open to being brow-beaten though

Jibartik
12-16-2021, 01:10 PM
Only players that play at or below 50 apm are allowed

Chloroform
12-16-2021, 02:31 PM
From the Play Nice Polices (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325349) (left off some bolding for clarity):



In other words, it's perfectly legal, as long as you don't program the mouse button to do 2+ things. Making it just press one button, like any keyboard key can, is effectively the same as pressing a keyboard key, so it's allowed.



or any other program that interacts with the Everquest Titanium Client, is strictly prohibited.

a mouse app does not interact with the everquest client

loramin
12-16-2021, 07:05 PM
or any other program that interacts with the Everquest Titanium Client, is strictly prohibited.

a mouse app does not interact with the everquest client

I'll change the bolding to re-emphasize my original quote:

This includes programmable keyboards or other devices that creates multiple inputs for a single keystroke or automated task.

It seems pretty clear to me that "other devices" (in the context of keyboards) includes mice (if they trigger multiple keystrokes).

Chloroform
12-16-2021, 07:40 PM
I'll change the bolding to re-emphasize my original quote:



It seems pretty clear to me that "other devices" (in the context of keyboards) includes mice (if they trigger multiple keystrokes).

right, no macros

starkind
12-16-2021, 09:01 PM
Only players that play at or below 50 apm are allowed

Make it 20 and we have a deal.

Trexller
12-17-2021, 01:23 AM
Yeah lets get real folks, you can do whatever the fuck you want on P99 if your donations meet a certain number.

wake up

Swish
12-17-2021, 03:16 AM
Map applications don't interfere with the EQ client (ie. aren't "3rd party programs" in that sense): they're completely separate programs , that just happen to read the log files the EQ client produces. As such, they don't break the rules here.


Use of a 3rd mouse button doesn't interfere with the EQ client if its bound to do whatever's on button 8 (incoming message, /sit, etc).

There's no third party program so no harm if its just a keybind.

ScarabBp
12-17-2021, 09:28 PM
Ah, great news! Thanks for your posts.