Paladins??

[zeus189]

I am wanting to come play P99 but wanted to know how needed are Paladins? I know Enc is good class but i like a lot of paladin stuff. I.E. Nature's Defender, Soulfire and the class armor looks cool imo.. lol

Thanks in advance

[starkind]

Paladins are the best rly. For the low low price of a pally only weapon and dw helm u can basically solo everything after lvl 46 if you're patient and it doesn't summon.

[Malrubius]

Plus they might be (just guessing) the least played class? Which if so can be another fun reason to play one.

[zeus189]

Good deal. I will probably play a paladin then. I played one as my 1st toon back in Dec 17th 1999. I still have the toon active and i still pay for my account.. all these years! lol... I just cannot part with him. Lol TY guys for making my decision easy lol

[Gustoo]

What race is your original pally ?

Yeah paladins are great.

[Toxigen]

If you always keep a charged soulfire on hand, you'll be a welcomed asset to any raid guild.

[Suriinya]

...I know Enc is good class but ...

Why does it matter about other classes? If you want to play a Paladin, play a Paladin!
Why would you even consider any other class if Paladin is the one that you are interested in? Who cares what anyone else thinks? Be the best Paladin you can be, just go out there and crush it.

[Dirkdaring]

Paladins are a great class, I played one from Dec 1999 thru Oct 2004. They are a late bloomer class as they get most of the good toolkit later on 50 +. Sadly the Luclin, and Planes of Power expansions which we`ll never see made them really OP.

Luclin added two low lvl, low cost fast cast stuns, which helped lvl 7, and 13, self haste spell, self hot, more hp buffs, damage procs, group heals etc.

As far as grouping , mob trying to gate, or complete heal, stun, group has to many mobs, and cc is struggling, root park some out of the way, enc pet break, stun to get aggro, and tank mez, while enchanter debuffs, and recharms, can spot off heal group, saving cleric mana, soloing undead is fun.

raided from 2000 thru 2004, we killed, farmed every raid target in every expansion, from Classic, thru VP, Sleepers Tomb, except Kherym the sleeper, but farmed Warders, AOW, etc, Everything in Luclin, Vex Thall and rest, Planes of Power, all the Gods, and everything in Plane of Time.

We never had pallies around just for a charged Soulfire lol , we used them, as Rampage Tanks, off tanks, helping off heal their group. I see a lot of Pallies, trying to offtank adds, and turn on attack, damage them , and causing them to summon, lol. There's no real need as a pally to turn on attack in order to get aggro, non damage stuns, taunt, and casting root over, and over, and flash of light on it, are normally enough to establish aggro, esp if you are just grabbing aggro until adds are mezed if they can be, or charmed, all that does is screw up the CC.

When we fought Emp in SSra Temple, Pallies off tanked his adds, same as Rathe Council during POP, I even tanked Bertox in Plane of Time.

We`ll never get to Luclin, or Planes of Power, but they can still be effective, and are great group tanks, Alot focus on the Warrior aspect of the class, and neglect the caster side, depending on gear, you can do more than just tank.

Once I joined a group in Plane of valor, I was way over geared, non raid pallies, had around 5400 hp, and 1k mana, I had little over 9k hp, and 3k mana. I was able to be puller, tank, and only healer, and we still killed just as fast as when they had a separate tank, and a cleric, but that was with best gear on server, and with Luclin, and POP spell kit. We`ll never see those here.

Try and get later on, 150 or so str is fine with buffs you`ll be close to 200 str, or higher, pally melee damage while is okay, it`s your spells, and utility, that make you shine. aim for high hp, with a mana pool 25 to 30 % of your hp pool. and you`ll be fine.

[brecon]

People here are being nice. I also like Paladins. Paladins are fun but they are above all a group tank, and there are some serious limitations which make them the least popular class in the game.

They lack the tools to be a raid tank. The only real raid tanks are Warriors due to their defensive discipline. Best case, you are picking up some trash.

Shadowknights are far more popular than Paladins for a few good reasons:
(1) Shadowknights get much more useful utility spells, including feign death, fear, snare, and invisibility
(2) Shadowknights can play the larger races that have better tank stats
(3) Shadowknights spell set lends itself more to dealing damage, while paladin spell set is more oriented to healing and mitigating

The problem here is that when you are not in a group role and you want to do anything else...travel, solo farm...shadowknights have it easier than paladins. Mobs in Everquest hit hard at higher levels. By being able to fear kite mobs, Shadowknights have a way to farm. Paladins have to just beat down the mob, root the mob, back up and try to heal up. It's far less efficient.

Instead of playing paladin, I usually opt for Ranger. They have a similar aesthetic, can tank at lower levels, but have better DPS and a better set of utility spells for travel and soloing .

[Allishia]

We need more paladins /nod.

[ReoDobbs]

People here are being nice. I also like Paladins. Paladins are fun but they are above all a group tank, and there are some serious limitations which make them the least popular class in the game.

They lack the tools to be a raid tank. The only real raid tanks are Warriors due to their defensive discipline. Best case, you are picking up some trash.

Shadowknights are far more popular than Paladins for a few good reasons:
(1) Shadowknights get much more useful utility spells, including feign death, fear, snare, and invisibility
(2) Shadowknights can play the larger races that have better tank stats
(3) Shadowknights spell set lends itself more to dealing damage, while paladin spell set is more oriented to healing and mitigating

The problem here is that when you are not in a group role and you want to do anything else...travel, solo farm...shadowknights have it easier than paladins. Mobs in Everquest hit hard at higher levels. By being able to fear kite mobs, Shadowknights have a way to farm. Paladins have to just beat down the mob, root the mob, back up and try to heal up. It's far less efficient.

Instead of playing paladin, I usually opt for Ranger. They have a similar aesthetic, can tank at lower levels, but have better DPS and a better set of utility spells for travel and soloing .

I'm just curious. Did you comment on the Paladin's lack of usefulness in a raid and then recommend he play a ranger instead?

[Stonewallx39]

People here are being nice. I also like Paladins. Paladins are fun but they are above all a group tank, and there are some serious limitations which make them the least popular class in the game.

They lack the tools to be a raid tank. The only real raid tanks are Warriors due to their defensive discipline. Best case, you are picking up some .

Paladins main tank tons of raid content, it just depends how you define “raid.” In most cases knights better tanks for ToV trash, HoT, Planes, all Kunark dragons outside VP, some Veeshans Peak dragons, so on and so forth. If you only play the game with the narrow view of the 15-20 toughest mobs your missing a lot of the game.

Pally is great, you’ll have a lot to add to any group and can solo as well with the right tools.

[Skarne]

Paladins are a really cool class. Good at soloing, excellent group tanks, can raid tank some mobs as well. The biggest plus is that they are really fun to handle and roleplay with. They have great looking armor sets, a cool looking epic, and there are lots of really badass pally weapons.

I say go for it!

[brecon]

I'm just curious. Did you comment on the Paladin's lack of usefulness in a raid and then recommend he play a ranger instead?

Rangers are also attractive races with an attractive aesthetic, and have a ton of solo utility that makes them much easier for a new player. Yes, you can buy sow pots and invis rings, and once you learn the zones you don't need to track, and if you choose humans you don't need infra vision...but it's just an easier start.

Rangers are also not 'need to have' on a raid, same as Paladins.

[starkind]

my main problem with paladins is no bind affinity or gate - thats why i always end up playing a cleric instead

[mattydef]

Paladins are by far the best group tanks in the game and its not even close. At 59 I can duo/trio most camps in seb as the tank and healer. They're perfectly capable of tanking most raids as well, as long as it's not the high end velious stuff.

[khandman]

Best job I ever had.

[Mblake1981]

Why does it matter about other classes? If you want to play a Paladin, play a Paladin!
Why would you even consider any other class if Paladin is the one that you are interested in? Who cares what anyone else thinks? Be the best Paladin you can be, just go out there and crush it.

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This, also whichever race got your attention (example: gnome warrior). Min/maxers will be in every game like this so let them do their thing, you do yours. This is also an RP game, so which lore etc has your attention that you might be inclined to type about on occasion.. (example: Ogres eating dwarves and gnomes).

Note: Voice chat is an afterthought not worthy of your character selection. (it's ok to have and use your imagination)

[Mblake1981]

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Will Travel.

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[unsunghero]

Plus they might be (just guessing) the least played class? Which if so can be another fun reason to play one.

They are definitely up there as the least played class. Them or rogues

I’ve seen paladins tear it up in a duo. Pal+enc or pal+shm

Early levels will be a challenge without twinking but making it to high level untwinked on pal should command a decent amount of respect

[Keebz]

Paladins can do some interesting raid target engages, are now the only class with soulfire, have some good buffs, have useful group heals, can tank most things, when they do tank they get aggro instantly, get raid weapons for cheap, can actually solo some cool targets through infinite self heals and can self rez if they fail. There's a reason the top guilds have some paladins.

For downsides, the solo QoL features like self-invis, feign death, sow, lev, etc are low. You have to paci and root around or use clickies, but it's totally doable. The DPS is also pretty bad. This is why they are not popular as twinks. Low skill floor, but high skill ceiling.

Next melee I make will be a paladin for sure.