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Gustoo
12-06-2021, 04:44 PM
Has anyone parsed Agi / Dex impacts on pvp hit rate?
Any stats floating around? I'm happy to make one up right now for maximum hit % difference with 255 dex vs 75 dex vs 75 and 255 agi or something but maybe someone has real info?
Very curious about red 2.0 meta starter stats. Halfling warrior even more OP than ever now?
Tunabros
12-06-2021, 04:56 PM
no one cares about your shitty red serer or this cringe post
Gustoo
12-06-2021, 05:18 PM
We all care about your cringe post.
I think besides me you might care the most about red 2.0.
Disease
12-06-2021, 06:02 PM
We all care about your cringe post.
I think besides me you might care the most about red 2.0.
She is from shit hole Taiwan. Only thing they are known for is getting a nuke dropped on them and then giving up. Terrorists of asia
Tunabros
12-06-2021, 06:43 PM
She is from shit hole Taiwan. Only thing they are known for is getting a nuke dropped on them and then giving up. Terrorists of asia
whoa there buddy
it's just a forum about a 20 year old game :eek:
starkind
12-06-2021, 09:14 PM
@op. Idk seems like a good plan to put agi for pvp grab some jewelry turn in some orc belts and get an ogre war to joust a wood elf with some store bought 9 dmg 2hs.
That'd give some good logs to post.
Gustoo
12-06-2021, 09:22 PM
We can do it sometime. I will install the game for making logs but I won't share them except to falsely confirm that they have no impact.
I'm just being open here so people that spend time on the board can be smarter than the people who hang out in the discord.
Probably the worst thing about the discord is that it is easily confused with the Discord PVP server God sent to Norrath right after Jesus ascended
starkind
12-06-2021, 09:39 PM
Ya discordchat app brings me tears.
Pretty sure I'm finally adapting tho.
It's weird.
Tassador
12-07-2021, 07:29 PM
Disease getting worked up into a frenzy again.
New_Guy
12-12-2021, 10:08 PM
She is from shit hole Taiwan. Only thing they are known for is getting a nuke dropped on them and then giving up. Terrorists of asia
There is so much historically wrong with this post lol.
https://imgur.com/a/I2yBP7X
heartbrand
12-13-2021, 08:59 AM
She is from shit hole Taiwan. Only thing they are known for is getting a nuke dropped on them and then giving up. Terrorists of asia
I didn’t realize Taiwan had a nuclear weapon dropped on it, is this post from the future?
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 09:04 AM
I didn’t realize Taiwan had a nuclear weapon dropped on it, is this post from the future?
Lol I think he is confusing Taiwan with Japan, while they are close to one another, different peoples completely.
Maybe don't do meth?
Disease
12-13-2021, 10:25 AM
I didn’t realize Taiwan had a nuclear weapon dropped on it, is this post from the future?
Sorry I'm not a damn science teacher. Taiwan is still some shit hole my $1000 shirt is made from. If the usa cut aid to them they would be playing around in stick huts.
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 01:41 PM
Sorry I'm not a damn science teacher. Taiwan is still some shit hole my $1000 shirt is made from. If the usa cut aid to them they would be playing around in stick huts.
lol actually that would be geography not science, and no Taiwan is one of the most advanced countries in the world. They make semiconductors, best in the world, your computer, car, phone, etc all works because Taiwan made the parts.
Don't do meth.
Jibartik
12-13-2021, 01:44 PM
if you're minding your own business and you see beastigore on /who then you're about to die.
Tassador
12-13-2021, 03:02 PM
If you guys keep talking about Taiwan… China going to come shut this shit down and have rogean apologize.
starkind
12-13-2021, 03:03 PM
well a lot of that radioactive fallout from japan and bikini atol probably did fuck up everyone in taiwan lol
Gustoo
12-13-2021, 03:27 PM
If you guys keep talking about Taiwan… China going to come shut this shit down and have rogean apologize.
it just bumps you up on the ransomware list.
Hopefully p99 team has this forum backed up in quadruplicate offline every month or so because ive seen this (my favorite and definitely the best) generation vbulletin messageboard be hacked and ransomwared i dunno what security issues it has but id hate to see terrible threads like this one be lost for all time.
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 05:28 PM
it just bumps you up on the ransomware list.
Hopefully p99 team has this forum backed up in quadruplicate offline every month or so because ive seen this (my favorite and definitely the best) generation vbulletin messageboard be hacked and ransomwared i dunno what security issues it has but id hate to see terrible threads like this one be lost for all time.
I think it is pretty safe to say that China would give zero shits about these forums.
Jibartik
12-13-2021, 05:37 PM
Chances are new guy is a bot created to say that ITT because someone mentioned china.
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 05:40 PM
Chances are new guy is a bot created to say that ITT because someone mentioned china.
OR is it someone you all know quite well?
<tinfoil rustling intensifies!>
Disease
12-13-2021, 08:48 PM
lol actually that would be geography not science, and no Taiwan is one of the most advanced countries in the world. They make semiconductors, best in the world, your computer, car, phone, etc all works because Taiwan made the parts.
Don't do meth.
Advanced? LOL They are to China as we are to Mexico. Forced labor. They're still eating puppies with sticks and that's Advanced to you?
Jibartik
12-13-2021, 08:58 PM
They make semiconductors, number 1!
https://i.imgur.com/WNbVOd9.png
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 09:48 PM
Advanced? LOL They are to China as we are to Mexico. Forced labor. They're still eating puppies with sticks and that's Advanced to you?
Taiwan is literally one of the most advanced countries in the world, I'm not slapping your hand away from the google button to prove it, you're choosing to embarrass yourself all on your own.
And by all means please keep doubling down, I find this immensely enjoyable!
BTW WTF is Disease? Anyone I would have heard of ingame?
and america is full of people that think they arent racist
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 09:59 PM
and america is full of people that think they arent racist
Well full isn't fair, just half, like Disease lol.
starkind
12-13-2021, 10:26 PM
Glad to see this thread made it another page b4 getting shutdown. By Xhina.
Disease
12-13-2021, 10:27 PM
Well full isn't fair, just half, like Disease lol.
I'm racist because they eat with sticks and China decided to build factories there for cheap labor? They shouldn't have attacked pearl harbor and maybe they wouldn't still be living in the 1800s.
New_Guy
12-13-2021, 10:34 PM
I'm racist because they eat with sticks and China decided to build factories there for cheap labor? They shouldn't have attacked pearl harbor and maybe they wouldn't still be living in the 1800s.
LMFAO oh man highschool was bad too you honey.
LOL Japan attacked Pearl Harbor not China, and Taiwan doesn't have cheap factory labor because they are a democracy not a communist country.
You just lumped three totally different countries into one big ball of stupid.
Disease
12-13-2021, 10:57 PM
LMFAO oh man highschool was bad too you honey.
LOL Japan attacked Pearl Harbor not China, and Taiwan doesn't have cheap factory labor because they are a democracy not a communist country.
You just lumped three totally different countries into one big ball of stupid.
Mexico is a democracy and has cheap labor. Because a continent has democracy doesn't make it poor, look at North Carolina.
Imago
12-14-2021, 01:38 AM
Disease is demonstrating late stage butterbrain
Disease
12-14-2021, 01:42 AM
Disease is demonstrating late stage butterbrain
Unless you have something to add to this discussion, piss off. I hope it made your day making fun of people with head injuries.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 08:51 AM
Mexico is a democracy and has cheap labor. Because a continent has democracy doesn't make it poor, look at North Carolina.
Yet Mexico doesn't make the most advanced mechanical engineering and quantum computing chips in the world, Taiwan does.
South Korea and Japan are both first world countries, ranked higher in just about every quality of living metric than the US. With Taiwan not close behind.
The US is now a third world country, only country in the entire world where every week children die in a mass shooting at their own schools. We rank number 20, below Singapore, japan, and south korea.
starkind
12-14-2021, 10:32 AM
Singapore would have turned me into a cybernetic super soldier and unleashed me on the US and they would have false flagged it as a school thing. As the US fell because our greatest presidents wouldn't make it past kindergarten.
Tunabros
12-14-2021, 11:52 AM
lol actually that would be geography not science, and no Taiwan is one of the most advanced countries in the world. They make semiconductors, best in the world, your computer, car, phone, etc all works because Taiwan made the parts.
Don't do meth.
+1
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 01:11 PM
The US is now a third world country, only country in the entire world where every week children die in a mass shooting at their own schools. We rank number 20, below Singapore, japan, and south korea.
You are living in a fantasy land lol.
There are more shootings simply because there are more people. More people means more crazy people. You forget that the USA is the third largest country in the world population wise. It just feels like a lot of shootings due to how much the media leans on these stories for ratings.
Comparing Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, or South Korea to America is absurd, considering their populations are 3x less in Japan, 11x less in Taiwan, 5x less in South Korea, and 60x less in Singapore. It is much easier to make 30 million people happy in Taiwan than 330 million people in America. Also, Taiwan is basically under the constant threat of military take-over by China, where America has no such imminent threat.
Jibartik
12-14-2021, 01:26 PM
American goverment has proven that in war, our goverment is the best, in science, our goverment is the best, in industrialization our government is the best, and yes since all the medical inventions of the modern era came as a result of our medical industry, our medical system is the best.
We did everything first, because America is #1 and capitalism is the best thing to have been invented since mankind discovered supply and demand.
Now a bunch of gypsies are trying to play catch up while our kids who we spoiled because we were so much better than everyone else and we could afford to, fuck up everything their parents built.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:07 PM
You are living in a fantasy land lol.
There are more shootings simply because there are more people. More people means more crazy people. You forget that the USA is the third largest country in the world population wise. It just feels like a lot of shootings due to how much the media leans on these stories for ratings.
Comparing Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, or South Korea to America is absurd, considering their populations are 3x less in Japan, 11x less in Taiwan, 5x less in South Korea, and 60x less in Singapore. It is much easier to make 30 million people happy in Taiwan than 330 million people in America. Also, Taiwan is basically under the constant threat of military take-over by China, where America has no such imminent threat.
I'm just gonna prove how stupid you are very quickly, and that is really your fault for making it so easy.
China has a pop of 1.4 Billion, that is with a B.
United States has a pop of 323 Million.
Yet the United States has a 18 times more shootings.
If you want to break it down by 100,000 people the US ranks 32 out of 200 countries, and none of those 31 above, are first world countries.
So yes by every metric available to a mind that can conceive basic math the United States is a 3rd world country according to gun violence.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:09 PM
I'm just gonna prove how stupid you are very quickly, and that is really your fault for making it so easy.
China has a pop of 1.4 Billion, that is with a B.
United States has a pop of 323 Million.
Yet the United States has a 18 times more shootings.
If you want to break it down by 100,000 people the US ranks 32 out of 200 countries, and none of those 31 above, are first world countries.
So yes by every metric available to a mind that can conceive basic math the United States is a 3rd world country according to gun violence.
Comparing China to the USA is also absurd lol, considering they have different gun laws. You are also assuming statistics coming out of China are accurate, which isn't a good assumption when looking at any communist country.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:11 PM
Comparing China to the USA is also absurd lol, considering they have different gun laws. You are also assuming statistics coming out of China are accurate, which isn't a good assumption when looking at any communist country.
Keep reading my post until it makes sense to you, I think we may be here abit.
Ya know I used to feel good about killing the best of the best on this server, now it feels like I was abusing mentally handicapped kids.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:17 PM
Keep reading my post until it makes sense to you, I think we may be here abit.
Ya know I used to feel good about killing the best of the best on this server, now it feels like I was abusing mentally handicapped kids.
I did read your post, you just don't understand how to compare countries at all. First you try and compare tiny countries to the USA, which is silly.
Then you try to compare the USA to China, which has a VAST difference in population, politics, etc. First off, China has somewhere around 500 million people who live in literal rural villages, where they are poor and can't afford guns. So you need to compare crime statistics in the comparable areas in China before you can even begin to claim any statistical comparisons. You also think stats coming out of China are accurate, which is nonsensical. One of the primary concerns of a communist country is looking good, even if the good look is a complete lie.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:18 PM
I did read your post, you just don't understand how to compare countries at all. First you try and compare tiny countries to the USA, which is silly.
Then you try to compare the USA to China, which has a VAST difference in population, politics, etc. First off, China has somewhere around 500 million people who live in literal rural villages, where they are poor and can't afford guns. So you need to compare crime statistics in the comparable areas in China before you can even begin to claim any statistical comparisons. You also think stats coming out of China are accurate, which is nonsensical. One of the primary concerns of a communist country is looking good, even if the good look is a complete lie.
I did say you needed a concept of basic math to understand my post, it seems you fail the prerequisites. Come back to us in a year when you get your GED.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:19 PM
I did say you needed a concept of basic math to understand my post, it seems you fail the prerequisites. Come back to us in a year when you get your GED.
Lol insulting people isn't an argument, and you clearly don't understand how stats work, or how to compare countries.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:24 PM
The simple fact that you think collating statistics on countries is a simple math exercise, where things like population count, distribution of populations, overall wealth of individuals, rule of law, reliability of statistics, etc. are non-factors, you have failed statistics 101 as well as basic logic 101.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:27 PM
Lol insulting people isn't an argument, and you clearly don't understand how stats work, or how to compare countries.
You said we had more shootings because we had more people, I easily proved that wrong and now you wanna move the goalposts to socio/political/economic discussions were you choose which country qualifies by your limited understanding of government.
Cmon, go live your life wrapped up in your cocoon of stupid. Just save yourself the embarrassment of the what would become an intellectual beating of epic proportions.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:31 PM
You said we had more shootings because we had more people, I easily proved that wrong and now you wanna move the goalposts to socio/political/economic discussions were you choose which country qualifies by your limited understanding of government.
Cmon, go live your life wrapped up in your cocoon of stupid. Just save yourself the embarrassment of the what would become an intellectual beating of epic proportions.
I did not move the goal posts. You did. You changed the topic because you couldn't rebut my argument lol. You were talking about Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore (no mention of China). So I rebutted your point with the simplest argument, which is population disparities. Comparing those countries to the USA is at least a little more logical since they follow somewhat similar governmental patterns.
China has way more people, you are right, but comparing China to America is a COMPLETELY different argument from the first four countries you mentioned, because China has a COMPELTELY different governmental pattern from the USA, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. China also has a fairly unique population distribution when compared to the other countries, so they aren't the same.
The problem here is you just looked at a few Wiki stat pages and assumed they were meaningful in the way you want them to be lol, which is to claim America is bad.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:34 PM
I did not move the goal posts. You did. You changed the topic because you couldn't rebut my argument lol. You were talking about Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore (no mention of China). So I rebutted your point with the simplest argument, which is population disparities. Comparing those countries to the USA is at least a little more logical since they follow somewhat similar governmental patterns.
China has way more people, you are right, but comparing China to America is a COMPLETELY different argument from the first four countries you mentioned, because China has a COMPELTELY different governmental pattern from the USA, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. China also has a fairly unique population distribution when compared to the other countries, so they aren't the same.
The problem here is you just looked at a few Wiki stat pages and assumed they were meaningful in the way you want them to be lol, which is to claim America is bad.
Are you still going? It's over; you've been dismissed by your betters, come back when you're smarter.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:35 PM
Are you still going? It's over; you've been dismissed by your betters, come back when you're smarter.
Poor trolling. My comments are for people who actually care about these arguments, not for you honestly. You are either easily fooled by things you don't understand, or you are just trolling poorly.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:38 PM
Poor trolling. My comments are for people who actually care about these arguments, not for you honestly. You are either easily fooled by things you don't understand, or you are just trolling poorly.
We get it, you watched Fox news and bought all the BS. Congratulations, you are now as smart as the average Labrador retriever.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:41 PM
We get it, you watched Fox news and bought all the BS. Congratulations, you are now as smart as the average Labrador retriever.
Poor trolling. You can't even make up your own troll, you just go for the "Fox Viewer" insult. Unoriginal and easily fooled:)
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 02:47 PM
Poor trolling. You can't even make up your own troll, you just go for the "Fox Viewer" insult. Unoriginal and easily fooled:)
Anyone who can read knows I gave stats and you tried to rearrange those stats to suit your argument, falsely.
If facts don't work on you, then me calling you stupid is not trolling; it's just an observation and very obvious one.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 02:55 PM
Anyone who can read knows I gave stats and you tried to rearrange those stats to suit your argument, falsely.
If facts don't work on you, then me calling you stupid is not trolling; it's just an observation and very obvious one.
At least you have realized insults and trolling won't win you this argument:) Good job.
I did not re-arrange any stats. You are simply assuming the stats you read off of Wikipedia mean anything. Comparing gun deaths in the USA to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore is nonsensical due to the population differences. That does not scale linearly.
Comparing China to the USA is equally absurd, because China is governed completely differently, and is under no obligation to give out correct statistics.
Come back when you learn to look more into a subject than reading a few Wiki stat pages.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 03:03 PM
At least you have realized insults and trolling won't win you this argument:) Good job.
I did not re-arrange any stats. You are simply assuming the stats you read off of Wikipedia mean anything. Comparing gun deaths in the USA to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and Singapore is nonsensical due to the population differences. That does not scale linearly.
Comparing China to the USA is equally absurd, because China is governed completely differently, and is under no obligation to give out correct statistics.
Come back when you learn to look more into a subject than reading a few Wiki stat pages.
This wasn't socio-political argument you stated the US has more shootings because we have more people, I proved that was monstrously false. I gave the most extreme example in China and then gave stats by 100,000 per citizens and we still ranked number 32 along with other countries like IRAQ!
That's it you lost that argument, the minute you started moving goalposts we were done having an intellectual debate. Because not only are you too stupid to understand it, you're also arrogant in your stupidity.
Now I can't do anything to fix the stupid, but I can intellectually beat that arrogance out of you.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 03:06 PM
This wasn't socio-political argument you stated the US has more shootings because we have more people, I proved that was monstrously false. I gave the most extreme example in China and then gave stats by 100,000 per citizens and we still ranked number 32 along with other countries like IRAQ!
That's it you lost that argument, the minute you started moving goalposts we were done having an intellectual debate. Because not only are you too stupid to understand it, you're also arrogant in your stupidity.
Now I can't do anything to fix the stupid, but I can intellectual beat that arrogance out of you.
This is such a poor troll because everyone can see you didn't talk about China until after I decimated your initial argument lol. Switching the topic to China IS moving the goal posts on your argument to try and get around the facts that you can't compare USA to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, or Singapore.
Get better at this please, it is just sad.
Tunabros
12-14-2021, 03:19 PM
think deathssilkymist is right
it's hard to compare two countries when their laws are so different
america has the 2nd ammendment
and in china having a firearm as a citizen is pretty much like one of the most illegal shit
you can do
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 04:03 PM
think deathssilkymist is right
it's hard to compare two countries when their laws are so different
america has the 2nd ammendment
and in china having a firearm as a citizen is pretty much like one of the most illegal shit
you can do
Just for the record agreeing with an idiot doesn't make him right, it just means you are also stupid.
Thank you for proving the obvious point that not allowing guns to citizens decreases gun violence. But the Fox news crowd constantly says that the answer to gun violence is more guns, which the retard you are agreeing with obviously believes.
Anymore obvious things you want to point out? How about going around your room and labeling ordinary appliances very slowly, LAAAAAMMMMMPPPPP.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 04:10 PM
Thank you for proving the obvious point that not allowing guns to citizens decreases gun violence. But the Fox news crowd constantly says that the answer to gun violence is more guns, which the retard you are agreeing with obviously believes.
Anymore obvious things you want to point out? How about going around your room a labeling ordinary appliances very slowly, LAAAAAMMMMMPPPPP.
Such bad trolling, it is painful. You are also switching topics again to avoid the previous points lol.
This idea is extremely silly because gun violence is not the only kind of violence. Reducing gun violence does not mean there is a decrease in people killing other people, it just means the method for murder changes lol. Whether you kill someone with a gun, a car, a bomb, poison, etc., that person is still dead.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 04:20 PM
Such bad trolling, it is painful. You are also switching topics again to avoid the previous points lol.
This idea is extremely silly because gun violence is not the only kind of violence. Reducing gun violence does not mean there is a decrease in people killing other people, it just means the method for murder changes lol. Whether you kill someone with a gun, a car, a bomb, poison, etc., that person is still dead.
Told ya Tuna, he believes that if people didn't have guns they would all crash cars into each other at the same rate lol because he gets all his info from Fox News, supported by the NRA.
Despite zero evidence anywhere in the world to prove that and every shred of evidence to the contrary, he will repeat that broken claim till the day he dies.
This is one of the dumbest humans on earth, that even after we just proved gun violence happens more when you allow more citizens guns, he still believes that more guns are actually the answer lol.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 04:23 PM
Told ya Tuna, he believes that if people didn't have guns they would all crash cars into each other at the same rate lol because he gets all his info from Fox News, supported by the NRA.
Despite zero evidence anywhere in the world to prove that and every shred of evidence to the contrary, he will repeat that broken claim till the day he dies.
This is one of the dumbest humans on earth, that even after we just proved gun violence happens more when you allow more citizens guns, he still believes that more guns are actually the answer lol.
Back to basic insults. How predictable. Claiming someone is wrong via insults is not a valid argument. Try again.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 04:26 PM
Back to basic insults. How predictable. Claiming someone is wrong via insults is not a valid argument. Try again.
I don't argue with dogs, I roll up a newspaper, smush their face in shit and say: "BAD BAD BAD!"
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 04:29 PM
I don't argue with dogs, I roll up a newspaper, smush their face in shit and say: "BAD BAD BAD!"
You haven't argued at all, or had a sensible conversation with me. You post nonsense, and then change topics, move goal posts, and use insults to try and refute points you do not like. I am not sure who you think you are fooling with this approach.
I do not mind being proven wrong, I am always up to learning new things. You have done nothing that would change any reasonable persons mind, and you are just making yourself look like an ass. That is the worst way to try and win someone over, or convince them you have anything useful to say.
Imago
12-14-2021, 04:32 PM
This escalated quickly
/popcorn
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 04:36 PM
You haven't argued at all, or had a sensible conversation with me. You post nonsense, and then change topics, move goal posts, and use insults to try and refute points you do not like. I am not sure who you think you are fooling with this approach.
I do not mind being proven wrong, I am always up to learning new things. You have done nothing that would change any reasonable persons mind, and you are just making yourself look like an ass. That is the worst way to try and win someone over, or convince them you have anything useful to say.
You believe things that are too dumb to argue with. All your arguments can be disproven with a simple google search.
Now I didn't make you that dumb, did I slap the books out of your hand and give you an autotrader instead? No.
When you're flat earther level of stupid, no level of facts will filter, no logical debate can be had. Now don't be upset with me for pointing it out, point that finger at your parents, they failed in their one job.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 04:39 PM
You believe things that are too dumb to argue with. All your arguments can be disproven with a simple google search.
Now I didn't make you that dumb, did I slap a books out of your hand and give you an autotrader instead? No.
When you're flat earther level of stupid, no level of facts will filter, no logical debate can be had. Now don't be upset with me for pointing it out, point that finger at your parents, they failed in their one job.
If you think that you can fully comprehend the differences between two countries via a simple google search, for example, that is your first problem lol.
The issue here is you read a few statistics and assume you know everything. I am sure you feel good about doing that, but you haven't actually learned anything.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 04:43 PM
If you think that you can fully comprehend the differences between two countries via a simple google search, for example, that is your first problem lol.
The issue here is you read a few statistics and assume you know everything. I am sure you feel good about doing that, but you haven't actually learned anything.
You just literally said if people didn't have guns they would all kill each other at the same rate with other things.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Cool find us a country in the world that the citizens are running around killing each other with cars and boxcutters at the same rate, lol I'll wait.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 04:51 PM
You just literally said if people didn't have guns they would all kill each other at the same rate with other things.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Cool find us the country in the world that the citizens are running around killing each other with cars and boxcutters at the same rate, lol I'll wait.
And we circle back to my original point, which you have yet to provide any rebuttal for other than changing the goal posts to China.
The United States is the only first world, western style country with anywhere close to 330 million people. The next closest contender is Japan at 126 million people. Any comparisons between homicide rates is meaningless, because there is no evidence to suggest homicide rates scale linearly based on population in first world, western style countries.
Comparing the United States to something like China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc. is equally meaningless, as they have a much different style of governing, and they are generally more poverty stricken than the United States.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 05:03 PM
And we circle back to my original point, which you have yet to provide any rebuttal for other than changing the goal posts to China.
The United States is the only first world, western style country with anywhere close to 330 million people. The next closest contender is Japan at 126 million people. Any comparisons between homicide rates is meaningless, because there is no evidence to suggest homicide rates scale linearly based on population in first world, western style countries.
Comparing the United States to something like China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc. is equally meaningless, as they have a much different style of governing, and they are generally more poverty stricken than the United States.
If you insist that people would just find other ways to kill each other without guns, then you MUST provide at least one example of that being true somewhere in the world!
That's how claims work, the burden of proof is on YOU!
Now I can prove that claim is wrong with an example...
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html
Shootings dropped dramatically after the gun confiscation.
That is how you give an example to prove your point, can you give a single example to prove that people in gun restricted countries kill each other in the same rate as countries with prevalent gun violence?
Because nobody cares about your moronic opinion, CAN YOU PROVE IT?
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 05:18 PM
If you insist that people would just find other ways to kill each other without guns, then you MUST provide at least one example of that being true somewhere in the world!
That's how claims work, the burden of proof is on YOU!
Now I can prove that claim is wrong with an example...
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-firearms-agreement.html
Shootings dropped dramatically after the gun confiscation.
That is how you give an example to prove your point, can you give a single example to prove that people in gun restricted countries kill each other in the same rate as countries with prevalent gun violence?
Because nobody cares about your moronic opinion, CAN YOU PROVE IT?
Posting random links does not automatically qualify it as evidence supporting your point.
That article you posted is about AUSTRALIA, not America. Why do you believe a country of 25 million people has any relevance to a country of 330 million people?
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 05:31 PM
Taiwan was Japanese at the time of the nucleation(s), and you should compare GDP per capita.
Also 2nd world means communists thx
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 05:40 PM
Posting random links does not automatically qualify it as evidence supporting your point.
That article you posted is about AUSTRALIA, not America. Why do you believe a country of 25 million people has any relevance to a country of 330 million people?
The article gave per captia I also showed you gun violence world wide stats per captia.
That means the overall population, doesn't matter.
I'm not your mommy, I don't think you're a bright special little boy, I know you're an idiot. So I don't give a shit about your opinion, if you cannot support anything your stating with any facts or statistics, then you're wrong. That is how debate works, you're just too stupid to realize you lost and keep coming back like a wack-a-mole.
svevin
12-14-2021, 05:43 PM
Taiwan was Japanese at the time of the nucleation(s),
How dare you make me learn something today?
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 05:44 PM
Taiwan was Japanese at the time of the nucleation(s), and you should compare GDP per capita.
Also 2nd world means communists thx
Even GDP per capita isn't necessarily relevant across a lot of countries due to their size and other factors.
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/
If you look here, the USA is only led by much smaller countries that benefit from the protection of the United States, with the exception of UAE, Kuait, and Quatar which are all inflated heavily due to oil money. Hong Kong is the weirdest one since it was considered western until very recently, so that is a unique case. This is why just looking at basic statistics is never the whole picture.
The article gave per captia I also showed you gun violence world wide stats per captia.
That means the overall population, doesn't matter.
I'm not your mommy, I don't think you're a bright special little boy, I know you're an idiot. So I don't give a shit about your opinion, if you cannot support anything your stating with any facts or statistics, then you're wrong. That is how debate works, you're just too stupid to realize you lost and keep coming back like a wack-a-mole.
Show me your evidence to suggest there is any way to compare a per capita rate in a country with 25 million people vs. 330 million people. It doesn't exist. You are comparing apples to oranges and you think you are not.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 05:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/RlLY7F8.png
https://i.imgur.com/Qz3AMbc.png
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 05:46 PM
Even GDP per capita isn't necessarily relevant across a lot of countries due to their size and other factors.
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/
If you look here, the USA is only led by much smaller countries that benefit from the protection of the United States, with the exception of UAE, Kuait, and Quatar which are all inflated heavily due to oil money. Hong Kong is the weirdest one since it was considered western until very recently, so that is a unique case. This is why just looking at basic statistics is never the whole picture.
Show me your evidence to suggest there is any way to compare a per capita rate in a country with 25 million people vs. 330 million people. It doesn't exist. You are comparing apples to oranges and you think you are not.
OMG you are so dumb you don't even know what per captia means!
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 05:49 PM
OMG you are so dumb you don't even know what per captia means!
I know what it means, the problem is you assume per capita matters:) For example, the per capita rate of homicide in Australia is 0.9 per 100,000 people. The per capita rate of homicide in America is 14.4 per 100,000 people. What per capita doesn't tell you is America has 330 million people, and Australia has 25 million people.
You must first prove that if you suddenly added 300 million people to Australia, the per capita rate would remain the same. You can't do it lol.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 05:53 PM
I know what it means, the problem is you assume per capita matters:) For example, the per capita rate of homicide in Australia is 0.9 per 100,000 people. The per capita rate of homicide in America is 14.4 per 100,000 people. What per capita doesn't tell you is America has 330 million people, and Australia has 25 million people.
You must first prove that if you suddenly added 300 million people to Australia, the per capita rate would remain the same. You can't do it lol.
That is like asking me to prove the world is round, you're the only idiot here that doesn't get it.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 05:56 PM
That is like asking me to prove the world is round, you're the only idiot here that doesn't get it.
More insults, no proof. Got it:) You are very bad at this.
svevin
12-14-2021, 06:02 PM
Even GDP per capita isn't necessarily relevant across a lot of countries due to their size and other factors.
https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/
If you look here, the USA is only led by much smaller countries that benefit from the protection of the United States, with the exception of UAE, Kuait, and Quatar which are all inflated heavily due to oil money. Hong Kong is the weirdest one since it was considered western until very recently, so that is a unique case. This is why just looking at basic statistics is never the whole picture.
Show me your evidence to suggest there is any way to compare a per capita rate in a country with 25 million people vs. 330 million people. It doesn't exist. You are comparing apples to oranges and you think you are not.
From Investopedia (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percapita.asp):
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Per capita is a term used in economic and statistical analysis that means per person.
Per capita is used when comparing a certain economic metric to a population.
The most common instances of per capita are gross domestic product (GDP) per capita and income per capita.
Per capita information provides more granular data than just aggregate information. It is often used as an apples to apples comparison between countries with different population sizes.
Per capita information is often contrasted with median information, which provides a clearer picture as it considers outliers.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:04 PM
From Investopedia (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percapita.asp):
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Per capita is a term used in economic and statistical analysis that means per person.
Per capita is used when comparing a certain economic metric to a population.
The most common instances of per capita are gross domestic product (GDP) per capita and income per capita.
Per capita information provides more granular data than just aggregate information. It is often used as an apples to apples comparison between countries with different population sizes.
Per capita information is often contrasted with median information, which provides a clearer picture as it considers outliers.
Yes, we use it as a metric to compare countries, but that doesn't mean it is a GOOD metric. I never argued that we use it as a metric lol.
svevin
12-14-2021, 06:05 PM
Yes, we use it as a metric to compare countries, but that doesn't mean it is a GOOD metric. I never argued that we use it as a metric lol.
So, what do you consider a better metric?
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:06 PM
Yes, we use it as a metric to compare countries, but that doesn't mean it is a GOOD metric. I never argued that we use it as a metric lol.
LOL yea you want to argue facts with your opinions, btw if you think I will ever tire of berating you, you're sadly mistaken.
This is like cocaine and waffles for me.
svevin
12-14-2021, 06:07 PM
LOL yea you want to argue facts with your opinions, btw if you think I will ever tire of berating you, you're sadly mistaken.
This is like cocaine and waffles for me.
I thought that was powdered sugar!
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:08 PM
So, what do you consider a better metric?
Honestly, we do NOT have any valid metrics that can accurately compare countries. That is the reality. Because of this, people are heavily inclined to read too much into these sorts of comparisons, and draw impossible conclusions.
It is just like I mentioned above about per capita GDP. The only countries above the USA are small countries that are heavily benefiting from the USA's protection, or countries that have massive oil reserves, which inflate their numbers. The world is not simple enough to run basic comparisons like this and make conclusions.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:10 PM
I thought that was powdered sugar!
A common misconception.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 06:13 PM
Honestly, we do NOT have any valid metrics that can accurately compare countries. That is the reality. Because of this, people are heavily inclined to read too much into these sorts of comparisons, and draw impossible conclusions.
It is just like I mentioned above about per capita GDP. The only countries above the USA are small countries that are heavily benefiting from the USA's protection, or countries that have massive oil reserves, which inflate their numbers. The world is not simple enough to run basic comparisons like this and make conclusions.
It's hard to have gun violence at scale if you lack a right/freedom to gun ownership(Westminster).
It might be the Aussie murder rate is lower due to all the shark, spider, snake, crocodile, dingo, and roo deaths those people endure yearly.
Humans need an enemy other than each other. (https://www.australiawidefirstaid.com.au/resources/shark-attacks-australia#:~:text=Australia%20recorded%2022%20unpr ovoked%20shark,of%20the%20worldwide%20total%20fata lities.)
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:13 PM
LOL yea you want to argue facts with your opinions, btw if you think I will ever tire of berating you, you're sadly mistaken.
This is like cocaine and waffles for me.
The only sad thing here is your inflated ego telling you that you are "beating me". You clearly have no intention of having a real debate or conversation.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:14 PM
It's hard to have gun violence at scale if you lack a right/freedom to gun ownership.
It might be the Aussie murder rate is lower due to all the shark, spider, snake, crocodile, dingo, and roo deaths those people endure yearly.
Humans need an enemy other than each other. (https://www.australiawidefirstaid.com.au/resources/shark-attacks-australia#:~:text=Australia%20recorded%2022%20unpr ovoked%20shark,of%20the%20worldwide%20total%20fata lities.)
Precisely. As you point out, there are OTHER factors that play into gun violence, besides just guns. Countries are extremely complex and have a large number of factors that can not easily be boiled down into a "per capita" argument.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:17 PM
Honestly, we do NOT have any valid metrics that can accurately compare countries. That is the reality. Because of this, people are heavily inclined to read too much into these sorts of comparisons, and draw impossible conclusions.
It is just like I mentioned above about per capita GDP. The only countries above the USA are small countries that are heavily benefiting from the USA's protection, or countries that have massive oil reserves, which inflate their numbers. The world is not simple enough to run basic comparisons like this and make conclusions.
Well if you won't accept any facts from any known source and believe you're opinion is right regardless of any evidence to the contrary, then you aren't capable of debating via your own admission.
Proving exactly what I stated earlier, you are too stupid to debate with because you lake the basic critical thinking skills to engage in that activity.
But thanks for wasting everyone's time and taking forever to admit what I already knew.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:21 PM
Well if you won't accept any facts from any known source and believe you're opinion is right regardless of any evidence to the contrary, then you aren't capable of debating via your own admission.
Proving exactly what I stated earlier, you are too stupid to debate with because you lake the basic critical thinking skills to engage in that activity.
But thanks for wasting everyone's time and taking forever to admit what I already knew.
Weak trolling yet again, more nonsense.
The problem is you are making impossible conclusions from factual statistics. I never denied the fact that the per capita murder rate of Australia is lower than Americas.
The problem is you are drawing fanciful conclusions from the factual data. You are forcing the facts to fit your narrative, which is why you are wrong.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:22 PM
It's hard to have gun violence at scale if you lack a right/freedom to gun ownership(Westminster).
When you prove the point but are so dumb you don't know you proved the point. :p
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:26 PM
Weak trolling yet again, more nonsense.
The problem is you are making impossible conclusions from factual statistics. I never denied the fact that the per capita murder rate of Australia is lower than Americas.
The problem is you are drawing fanciful conclusions from the factual data. You are forcing the facts to fit your narrative, which is why you are wrong.
So you are right because you feel it, and everyone with sources is wrong because you said so?
There is a word for that...
mo·ron
/ˈmôrˌän/
nounINFORMAL
a stupid person.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:26 PM
When you prove the point but are so dumb you don't know you proved the point. :p
You clearly missed the point he was trying to make.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 06:26 PM
When you prove the point but are so dumb you don't know you proved the point. :p
Is your point "rights bad"? Great job idiot.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:31 PM
Is your point "rights bad"? Great job idiot.
So instead of understanding less guns=less gun deaths, you went with sharks!
I know why Mensa didn't respond to your application, you can stop wondering.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:35 PM
So instead of understanding less guns=less gun deaths, you went with sharks!
I know why Mensa didn't respond to your application, you can stop wondering.
It is astounding that you cannot understand that decreasing gun deaths does not always directly correlate to lower overall violence. If gun deaths go down by 100, and death by other methods goes up by 100, there is no difference in how many people die.
The gun is not possessing people, forcing them to kill others. It is the person harboring murderous intent that uses the gun to kill people.
Banning guns does not reduce the number of people harboring murderous intent.
At this point (unless you are trolling) it is clear you have a serious bias against guns that goes past reason and logic. It is clouding your judgement on the matter.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 06:36 PM
So instead of understanding less guns=less gun deaths, you went with sharks!
I know why Mensa didn't respond to your application, you can stop wondering.
Their overall murder rate is lower too(1.3 v 5 / 100k (https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murder-rate)), not just gun murders.
It is not just sharks, a kangaroo can easily disembowel a man.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 06:54 PM
It is astounding that you cannot understand that decreasing gun deaths does not always directly correlate to lower overall violence.
It is astounding that you can't understand that, when every single source in the world confirms it and you can't give a single source to refute it.
You're like a naked redneck methhead screaming you have a 12 inch cock when we can all see that baby dick.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 06:58 PM
It is astounding that you can't understand that, when every single source in the world confirms it and you can't give a single source to refute it.
You're like a naked redneck methhead screaming you have a 12 inch cock when we can all see that baby dick.
More insults:) And no, you are misreading the data to fit your narrative. Just claiming "every single source in the world confirms it" means nothing, as you can't actually back up your claim.
The only bit of evidence you have cited so far is the Australian gun buy back, which is completely irrelevant when it comes to America. You cannot compare a country of 25 million to a country of 330 million. There is no evidence on planet earth to suggest Australia would scale linearly with 10x the population.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 07:06 PM
More insults:) And no, you are misreading the data to fit your narrative. Just claiming "every single source in the world confirms it" means nothing, as you can't actually back up your claim.
The only bit of evidence you have cited so far is the Australian gun buy back, which is completely irrelevant when it comes to America. You cannot compare a country of 25 million to a country of 330 million. There is no evidence on planet earth to suggest Australia would scale linearly with 10x the population.
It depends if you think a reduction of yearly deaths by 3.7 per 100k is worth depriving 26 million people of their natural rights. He clearly does.
Fully half of all fatal shark attacks in 2020 occurred in Australia.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 07:09 PM
More insults:) And no, you are misreading the data to fit your narrative. Just claiming "every single source in the world confirms it" means nothing, as you can't actually back up your claim.
The only bit of evidence you have cited so far is the Australian gun buy back, which is completely irrelevant when it comes to America. You cannot compare a country of 25 million to a country of 330 million. There is no evidence on planet earth to suggest Australia would scale linearly with 10x the population.
Ok let's try to put it in terms a 5 year old would understand, you still won't get it, but I can't dumb it down anymore.
You have 30 people and you split them into two groups of 15, with me so far dum dum?
One group you give sharpened sticks too.
The other you give fully moded automatic AR-15's.
Which group is gonna kill more people?
Still don't get it? Congratulations you're dumber than a five year old.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 07:12 PM
Ok let's try to put it in terms a 5 year old would understand, you still won't get it, but I can't dumb it down anymore.
You have 30 people and you split them into two groups of 15, with me so far dum dum?
One group you give sharpened sticks too.
The other you give fully moded automatic AR-15's.
Which group is gonna kill more people?
Still don't get it? Congratulations you're dumber than a five year old.
This example has no relevance to any conversation we have had so far. You do realize we do not live in a lawless society, where one group of people with rifles is dominating another group of people with sticks?
Ironically your gun ban WOULD create this situation lol, as banning guns does not stop the Government from having them. So in this example the Government would be the group with AR-15s, and the Civilians would be the group with sticks. Wouldn't it be better to arm every person with an AR-15, which is what we already have now with the Second Amendment?:)
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 07:18 PM
Ok let's try to put it in terms a 5 year old would understand, you still won't get it, but I can't dumb it down anymore.
You have 30 people and you split them into two groups of 15, with me so far dum dum?
One group you give sharpened sticks too.
The other you give fully moded automatic AR-15's.
Which group is gonna kill more people?
Still don't get it? Congratulations you're dumber than a five year old.
This is amazing. Congratulations. You have just made the argument for the Second Amendment without realizing it. I am glad this conversation was productive.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 07:21 PM
This example has no relevance to any conversation we have had so far. You do realize we do not live in a lawless society, where one group of people with rifles is dominating another group of people with sticks?
Ironically your gun ban WOULD create this situation lol, as banning guns does not stop the Government from having them. So in this example the Government would be the group with AR-15s, and the Civilians would be the group with sticks. Wouldn't it be better to arm every person with an AR-15, which is what we already have now with the Second Amendment?:)
Listen I know every fox talking point you are gonna throw, I know your response before you are gonna formulate it. Because they aren't even your thoughts, they are spoon-fed talking points meant to fool people of extremely low intellect.
Like this idea that ordinary people with guns could ever take on the U.S Military lol that is some dumb rambo shit they fed moron hicks like you to keep gun sales up.
You have zero chance of doing jack shit vs the military might of the United States, they are putting guns on robot dogs right now and would drone strike you into oblivion. That rambo fantasy like your alternate facts, exist only in your deluded minus 50 IQ brain.
Gustoo
12-14-2021, 07:21 PM
Wrong sub forum guys geez
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 07:21 PM
Just gonna say it again.
Ok let's try to put it in terms a 5 year old would understand, you still won't get it, but I can't dumb it down anymore.
You have 30 people and you split them into two groups of 15, with me so far dum dum?
One group you give sharpened sticks too.
The other you give fully moded automatic AR-15's.
Which group is gonna kill more people?
Still don't get it? Congratulations you're dumber than a five year old.
This is amazing. Congratulations. You have just made the argument for the Second Amendment without realizing it. I am glad this conversation was productive.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 07:30 PM
Just gonna say it again.
This is amazing. Congratulations. You have just made the argument for the Second Amendment without realizing it. I am glad this conversation was productive.
I'm glad to do some charity work and help a retard realize their dream. I'll make ya paper medallion and give you piece of shit and tell ya it's a lollipop.
Look at him smile folks!
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 07:34 PM
I'm glad to do some charity work and help a retard realize their dream. I'll make ya paper medallion and give you piece of shit and tell ya it's a lollipop.
Look at him smile folks!
Of course I am happy. You were able to realize why the Second Amendment matters, even if it was originally designed to try and disprove it. It shows you do have the ability to use reason and logic when the mood strikes you. This conversation was never meant to troll you, it was meant to help you understand why you are wrong, and I think we have made progress today. Being wrong isn't a bad thing, and you shouldn't be so afraid to admit when you are wrong.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 07:38 PM
Of course I am happy. You were able to realize why the Second Amendment matters, even if it was originally designed to try and disprove it. It shows you do have the ability to use reason and logic when the mood strikes you. This conversation was never meant to troll you, it was meant to help you understand why you are wrong, and I think we have made progress today. Being wrong isn't a bad thing, and you shouldn't be so afraid to admit when you are wrong.
And this is why you can't argue with retards.
Arguing with retards is like playing chess with a pigeon... no matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 07:40 PM
And this is why you can't argue with retards.
Arguing with retards is like playing chess with a pigeon... no matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won.
Back to the insults. Sad.
This doesn't stop the fact that you have (probably for the first time in your life) defended the Second Amendment. You may not realize it right now, but I urge you to think on your example a little harder. It may teach you an important lesson.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 07:42 PM
Wrong sub forum guys geez
Please don't hurt off topic by inviting this rabble. :)
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 07:45 PM
Back to the insults. Sad.
This doesn't stop the fact that you have (probably for the first time in your life) defended the Second Amendment. You may not realize it right now, but I urge you to think on your example a little harder. It may teach you an important lesson.
You finding a defense for the second amendment in that statement is like me pissing in your face and you convincing yourself it's raining.
Congrats on the imaginary victory, but you're still covered in piss.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 07:48 PM
You finding a defense for the second amendment in that statement is like me pissing in your face and you convincing yourself it's raining.
Congrats on the imaginary victory, but you're still covered in piss.
Fight it all you want, but the answer is there in your own words, and I think that is extremely encouraging. You are for the Second Amendment logically, you just refuse to admit it emotionally.
Tunabros
12-14-2021, 07:57 PM
sorry to say this, new guy
but you're kinda retarded
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 08:10 PM
sorry to say this, new guy
but you're kinda retarded
I gotta be honest your opinion means very little to me, especially from someone so dumb they are literally siding with the people that are calling your own country a shithole.
It's like watching a guy challenge you to a fight and then begin fisting himself.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 08:11 PM
I gotta be honest your opinion means very little to me, especially from someone so dumb they are literally siding with the people that are calling your own country a shithole.
It's like watching a guy challenge you to a fight and then begin fisting himself.
The only person insulting countries here is yourself lol. It is clear you dislike America for whatever reason, and are using any tool at your disposal to try and prove it. So far, you have been found quite lacking.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 08:19 PM
The only person insulting countries here is yourself lol. It is clear you dislike America for whatever reason, and are using any tool at your disposal to try and prove it. So far, you have been found quite lacking.
You love America so much you want to keep guns just encase you need to overthrow the democratic government?
Sounds like retard logic.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 08:26 PM
You love America so much you want to keep guns just encase you need to overthrow the democratic government?
Sounds like retard logic.
Please read some history, namely American history. You may understand why the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment into the Constitution.
The Founding Fathers rightfully assumed any country could eventually slide into tyranny. That is a very common pattern throughout human history. It is why they built protections into the Constitution against tyranny.
Of course the Founding Fathers are for overthrowing bad governments. How do you think America was created?:)
Tunabros
12-14-2021, 08:27 PM
I gotta be honest your opinion means very little to me, especially from someone so dumb they are literally siding with the people that are calling your own country a shithole.
It's like watching a guy challenge you to a fight and then begin fisting himself.
i don't think deathsilky said anything bad about a country
just stating statistics
Disease
12-14-2021, 08:32 PM
I'm just gonna prove how stupid you are very quickly, and that is really your fault for making it so easy.
China has a pop of 1.4 Billion, that is with a B.
United States has a pop of 323 Million.
Yet the United States has a 18 times more shootings.
If you want to break it down by 100,000 people the US ranks 32 out of 200 countries, and none of those 31 above, are first world countries.
So yes by every metric available to a mind that can conceive basic math the United States is a 3rd world country according to gun violence.
Back to China? I thought we were talking shit hole Taiwan
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 08:32 PM
i don't think deathsilky said anything bad about a country
just stating statistics
I think he was confusing me with Disease, who is very clearly being an asshole against Taiwan lol.
Whale biologist
12-14-2021, 08:56 PM
I think he was confusing me with Disease, who is very clearly being an asshole against Taiwan lol.
Well our discoveries today indicate that Tuna may be a nephew of Tojo in addition to a son of Kaishek :)
Disease
12-14-2021, 09:04 PM
I think he was confusing me with Disease, who is very clearly being an asshole against Taiwan lol.
No, the guy is a communist who shits on any free country. I hope he enjoys eating with sticks in the dirt while his dictator leader is eating steak and shrimp with a fork like everyone else in 2020
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 09:10 PM
No, the guy is a communist who shits on any free country. I hope he enjoys eating with sticks in the dirt while his dictator leader is eating steak and shrimp with a fork like everyone else in 2020
He does indeed enjoy dumping on America. It is ironic that his avatar is from a movie called "Free Guy", but he is clearly not for freedom.
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 10:25 PM
He does indeed enjoy dumping on America. It is ironic that his avatar is from a movie called "Free Guy", but he is clearly not for freedom.
No, the guy is a communist who shits on any free country. I hope he enjoys eating with sticks in the dirt while his dictator leader is eating steak and shrimp with a fork like everyone else in 2020
Gyno you don't even know what communist means, both you shit sniffing sheep fuckers are about as American as Al Qaeda.
Both false flag waving home grown terrorists. Couch warriors with the dream of one day overthrowing the government to install your orange bag of cheeto shit, in the hopes you can make some fascist law that forces women to touch your baby dick.
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 11:06 PM
Gyno you don't even know what communist means, both you shit sniffing sheep fuckers are about as American as Al Qaeda.
Both false flag waving home grown terrorists. Couch warriors with the dream of one day overthrowing the government to install your orange bag of cheeto shit, in the hopes you can make some fascist law that forces women to touch your baby dick.
When you lose an argument your "insults" get more and more nonsensical. You should be spending more time thinking about the Second Amendment, so you can come to terms with your beliefs both logically and emotionally. You are half way there.
Disease
12-14-2021, 11:21 PM
Gyno you don't even know what communist means, both you shit sniffing sheep fuckers are about as American as Al Qaeda.
Both false flag waving home grown terrorists. Couch warriors with the dream of one day overthrowing the government to install your orange bag of cheeto shit, in the hopes you can make some fascist law that forces women to touch your baby dick.
I'm actually getting my penis removed, we covered this already. Now stop the gay bashing before you end up banned. Ingame and HERE!
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 11:28 PM
I'm actually getting my penis removed, we covered this already. Now stop the gay bashing before you end up banned. Ingame and HERE!
Oh Gyno, I have 18 forum accounts, report fish all you want, I'll be back in 10 seconds. Lol you tried to get me banned ingame for 5 years because I tortured the shit you out of you. All you did was publicly humiliate yourself.
LOL although I did enjoy watching you waste a ton of cash gate potting the minute you saw me on /who.
Gustoo
12-14-2021, 11:31 PM
Feels like red 2 is imminent with this level of mad. Pretty psyched
DeathsSilkyMist
12-14-2021, 11:33 PM
Feels like red 2 is imminent with this level of mad. Pretty psyched
We are keeping the Red forum active at least! Aren't we helping?:P
New_Guy
12-14-2021, 11:38 PM
Feels like red 2 is imminent with this level of mad. Pretty psyched
Listen I applaud what you are trying to do, but lol you are obviously new here.
They don't give a shit about Red, Disease/Gyno literally pays to keep the server dead so he can farm.
So unless you can fork up a few thousand to Rogean to get Red 2.0 going, it is never gonna happen.
And if you want to keep a convo HERE on red, you gotta piss people off, these are vile creatures and they feed off misery like skittles.
Gustoo
12-15-2021, 12:05 AM
If they feed off misery you’re giving them a feast, whoever you’re talking about.
I was just joking anyways, these threads you’ve been involved in do feel like old red 1.0 threads which is nice nostalgia, but it doesn’t really make me think anything good is imminent.
I wish all you guys wore your names on your sleeves, the only player I can track from forum account to forum account is starkind.
Just need a new red. Thanks.
New_Guy
12-15-2021, 12:12 AM
If they feed off misery you’re giving them a feast, whoever you’re talking about.
I was just joking anyways, these threads you’ve been involved in do feel like old red 1.0 threads which is nice nostalgia, but it doesn’t really make me think anything good is imminent.
I wish all you guys wore your names on your sleeves, the only player I can track from forum account to forum account is starkind.
Just need a new red. Thanks.
Why are there rules here now? WTF kind of hippy horseshit is that!
I know Disease is Littlegyno, Trade is Ecoli, Libartik is Beastagor or Lithium. Arcane something smells like Agatha. LOL everyone should figured out who I am by now.
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