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Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 12:25 PM
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/12/02/judge-blocks-tx-social-media-law-would-ban-content-moderation/8833124002/

Ouch, look what texas calls "equality". Forcing companies to carry your extremist, racist, sexist, or terroristic view points is not "equality" its compelling speech.

Where are all the free speech warriors..? Weird how the GOP wants to force companies like FB, twitter, and instagram to carry their message but they didnt include companies like parlor and gab. Those companies would be allowed to moderate user content, but not the bigger ones they NEED to spread their message on.

So glad a judge blocked it. Its basically saying that companies have no right to moderate content by users, especially if its hateful or recruiting for a jan 6th style attack on the USA.

unsunghero
12-03-2021, 12:33 PM
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/12/02/judge-blocks-tx-social-media-law-would-ban-content-moderation/8833124002/

Ouch, look what texas calls "equality". Forcing companies to carry your extremist, racist, sexist, or terroristic view points is not "equality" its compelling speech.

Where are all the free speech warriors..? Weird how the GOP wants to force companies like FB, twitter, and instagram to carry their message but they didnt include companies like parlor and gab. Those companies would be allowed to moderate user content, but not the bigger ones they NEED to spread their message on.

So glad a judge blocked it. Its basically saying that companies have no right to moderate content by users, especially if its hateful or recruiting for a jan 6th style attack on the USA.

Ya, the problem with moderation is that it is 100% completely necessary on any medium that has online communication

I remember hearing about Trump talking about his new social media platform and him touting that it will involve 100% free speech. I don’t know what ended up happening with that but it’s like “100% free speech huh? So what happens when thousands of trolls come in and start spamming ‘FUCK TRUMP’ thousands of times? Or the N word? Or any other pointless obscenities”. Anyone who thinks they can have a platform with unmoderated speech that WON’T turn into a haven for trolls and filth is just naive

But moderation cannot be impartial. It just can’t. It’s being done by humans, or it’s being done by algorithms programmed by humans, and humans are biased. So moderation will always be unfair to some group or another

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 12:34 PM
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/12/02/judge-blocks-tx-social-media-law-would-ban-content-moderation/8833124002/

Ouch, look what texas calls "equality". Forcing companies to carry your extremist, racist, sexist, or terroristic view points is not "equality" its compelling speech.

Damn, people have to just accept that getting vaccinated is the only way that I will be safe. I hope that the feds can overturn this and make sure that they do the vaccine mandates that we need.

I dont know why gravy is so happy that people can dodge the jab.

starkind
12-03-2021, 12:34 PM
laws wont fix whats wrong with us

laws are often not enforced

relying on law enforcement too much or the federal government too much creates a systemic problem and exacerbates racism and sexism and religious fanaticism. It removes the individuals ability to solve these problems on their own.

BlackBellamy
12-03-2021, 12:37 PM
Its basically saying that companies have no right to moderate content by users, especially if its hateful or recruiting for a jan 6th style attack on the USA.

some companies don't have that right

for example the cable company

the phone company

verizon doesn't have the right to moderate your content

so some do and some don't, and when there are disagreements we use the courts to sort it out

like it happened

it shouldn't be news that politicians carve out exemptions for their favorite constituency, this sort of corruption is endemic to all political parties

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 12:38 PM
I cant believe all this anti vax hooey. Shame on OP.

Accept the mandates. Take the jab.

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 12:45 PM
I doubt they ever meant it to take effect, just jerking off the base with nonsense about fairness. :p

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 12:46 PM
Gravypoop,

Go learn what Section 230 is and how it is abused by social media companies.

Beyond what is legally required to be removed such as threats of violence, planning terrorist acts, snuff videos, child porn, etc.

Any further moderation or editorializing of content is beyond the scope a "platform"

You either DO NOT editorialize and you have Section 230 protection

OR

You DO editorialize and you are responsible for ALL content on your platform.

Social media has wanted it both ways. This will come to an end, maybe when (R) take the house in 2022.


Do you know what Section 230 is?
Have you read the law?
Do you know what content is and what content isn't legally required of platforms to remove?


Jeez, another ignorant lib.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 12:50 PM
All I know is if you want a job, you better get the jab.

I hope the feds can overturn whatever antivax shenanigan's in OP's link I didnt click on this court pulled, this is absurd.

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 12:50 PM
Gravypoop,

Go learn what Section 230 is and how it is abused by social media companies.

Beyond what is legally required to be removed such as threats of violence, planning terrorist acts, snuff videos, child porn, etc.

Any further moderation or editorializing of content is beyond the scope a "platform"

You either DO NOT editorialize and you have Section 230 protection

OR

You DO editorialize and you are responsible for ALL content on your platform.

Social media has wanted it both ways. This will come to an end, maybe when (R) take the house in 2022.


Do you know what Section 230 is?
Have you read the law?
Do you know what content is and what content isn't legally required of platforms to remove?


Jeez, another ignorant lib.

Nationalizing Twitter to own the Left. :cool:

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 12:52 PM
Nationalizing Twitter to own the Left. :cool:

Both sides (including facebook) are trying to get rid of that internet protections act. :(

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 12:55 PM
No need to nationalize, just apply the rule of law and let companies decide if they want to be publishers or platforms.

You read English?

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 12:58 PM
what laws do we have for the newspapers? (serious question) and news media outlets? (I really dont know this isnt my usual snarky peanut gallery)

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 01:00 PM
No need to nationalize, just apply the rule of law

Sure thing man, government compliance officers embedded in every company.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 01:01 PM
what is the ratio of libertarians that think we should do something governmentally about twitter silencing conservatives?

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 01:01 PM
In America we demand the government stay out of our bedrooms.

In China they don't make demands because the government is in every boardroom.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 01:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/EucIfYY.gif

unsunghero
12-03-2021, 01:08 PM
I continue to hold out hope that eventually there will be a mass exodus of all conservatives AND all moderates from Big Tech companies like FB, Twitter

It will take them doing some egregious, and something that affects moderates as well as conservatives. Once the exodus begins, it will be like a snowball rolling downhill, because people are like lemmings. The more that are moving, the more that will follow

Democrats on those platforms will think “good, we want them gone”. But it will hurt the companies, and that’s who I most want to hurt. And I want to hurt them where it counts, their wallets

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 01:13 PM
Hmm well.

I hate to break it to you but here are some hard to swallow pills about "conservatives" in tech.

First of all, there are virtually none. At best you have libertarians.

But spoiler, libertarians in northern california, are extremely left leaning, more left than most lefties.

Even if they lean right, they are literally surrounded by HARD CORE LEFTIST RICH PEOPLE who embrace futurist progressive ideas.

It doesnt take long for rich friends who wont shutup about their brainwashing, to brainwash anyone.

This means, a traditional conservative (someone who is not willing to use a microchip in their brain or eye without even thinking about it.) is simply: NOT WELCOME in the tech industry.

They are not even welcome in the region the tech industry thrives.

Ive heard conservatives since the 1990s say "we're leaving" and every time I heard all the libs that rule the industry say "and stay the FUCK OUT!"

so it's their loss.

Tech is a futurist progressive realm.

Maybe that's why after 10+ years of it driving our economy, everyone is depressed because of FOMO and all the healthy people want to kill themselves working 3 jobs. (sorry everyone but patriam)

Samoht
12-03-2021, 01:17 PM
Any further moderation or editorializing of content is beyond the scope a "platform"

This is simply not true. The platform decides the scope of the platform, and if the republicans act like shitty little brats, they can get kicked off of that platform.

Get fucked, moran.

unsunghero
12-03-2021, 01:18 PM
But spoiler, libertarians in northern california, are extremely left leaning, more left than most lefties.

Even if they lean right, they are literally surrounded by HARD CORE LEFTIST RICH PEOPLE who embrace futurist progressive ideas.

Like Seth Rogen, who brags about being robbed 15 times and says “it’s called living in a big city” and that people shouldn’t complain

Is everyone rich like you Seth? Everyone can just shrug off losing their possessions 15 times? Fucking moron

https://www.foxnews.com/media/seth-rogen-los-angeles-crime.amp

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 01:25 PM
This is simply not true. Yes it is. Read Section 230, idiot.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 01:26 PM
Sure thing man, government compliance officers embedded in every company.

Correct. Flawless logic. This is how we enforce every law obviously.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 01:28 PM
Like Seth Rogen, who brags about being robbed 15 times and says “it’s called living in a big city” and that people shouldn’t complain

Is everyone rich like you Seth? Everyone can just shrug off losing their possessions 15 times? Fucking moron

https://www.foxnews.com/media/seth-rogen-los-angeles-crime.amp

It's a classic white pillaged artist gentrifier attitude.

Ive heard people say that about moving to the ghetto while they're pricing out all the people that made it a ghetto, since I was 18 and moved out into the ghetto to price people out of the ghetto.

Even if you are not wealthy, you are like, "into" the whole ghetto lifestyle. So when your friends mom is like, 'i hear people get robbed there, how can yo udo that!' and since you are white privlaged and living off of trickle down economies you're like "haha you're just not cool enough to get it, boomer!"

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 01:35 PM
Correct. Flawless logic. This is how we enforce every law obviously.

Broke: Mods putting you in Twitter jail
Woke: Putting Twitter mods in jail

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 01:38 PM
Broke: Mods putting you in Twitter jail
Woke: Putting Twitter mods in jail

Learn logic. Learn to read. Let's talk then.

"I don't like this law. It can only be enforced by ((strawman)) way of enforcing it. This confirms it is bad."

Cynical/evil, narrow-minded, or just ignorant/stupid. Haven't got a read on you being which one, but closer to the block button - you waste precious post space that could be used by other upstanding and intelligent members of our community.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 01:43 PM
Like 99% of all information and modern political discourse is currently exchanged on these platforms, they are effectively a digital town square and I think they have to be treated as such (not moderated, except for blatantly illegal content or blatant spam).

I mean you can make the argument they need to be regulated simply based on election interference; they all acted swiftly to squash that hunter biden laptop scandal when it first dropped right before the election, and after the election many dems who were polled said they never heard of it, and would have seriously reconsidered voting for biden if they had known. I mean that's just blatantly influencing the vote tallies, in a direct way, by suppressing that story.

Russian interference is nothing compared to basically having a monopoly on driving the bus of public discourse.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 01:48 PM
So whats the plan to nationalize these institutions like twitter or facebook?

Have them hire large numbers of slaves in 3rd world countries to vet every post and make sure it's not misinformation, or censoring a conservative?

Reminder: the reason we dont have that law is because it would stifle any competition as large companies would be the only able to pay those costs. So no competitors to Facebook or twitter would ever be able to challenge them. Forever.

Youtube, forever, no new video platforms, as all will be shut down due to costs of vetting posts.

Is there some new idea about how these companies can be nationalized? because the current idea is to go with an idea that the mega corporations convinced us would be impossible for them to pay for, except now, the mega corporations are saying we DO need it.

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 01:52 PM
blahblah....

Not even going to click your video. Your posts are low value. Not very well thought out. Not funny. Not interesting.

Enjoy being wrong on most things you have posted about

Enjoy being morally and financially bankrupt.

Good day sir.

*celebrates the exhilarating feeling of getting the last word and quiet contentment of being far more mature than the other person*

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 01:54 PM
Not even going to click your video. Your posts are low value. Not very well thought out. Not funny. Not interesting.

Enjoy being wrong on most things you have posted about

Enjoy being morally and financially bankrupt.

Good day sir.

*celebrates the exhilarating feeling of getting the last word and quiet contentment of being far more mature than the other person*

Alright genius scroll man, what should the penalty be for censoring a Conservative?

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 01:54 PM
Who's next?

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 01:57 PM
If you dont like it, start your own company. Isnt that how it works? Im sure gap and parlor will over take twitter one of these days. In the mean time, read the TOS. You dont get to do whatever the fuck you want on someone else' platform.

Wow, you registered your name and email, you must own the company now. If one of the rules is "no gun content" or "no trump content" then thats their rules. You dont get to dictate their terms of service you agreed to. You agree to all of them or none of them, thats the point of it.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 01:57 PM
Who's next?

me me!

what is the plan or ideas, to nationalize these platforms?

Botten
12-03-2021, 02:28 PM
Court went the only direction they could go and I am glad, thanks for the good read OP.

It is extremely stupid to be crying about section 230 especially with out it the platforms would be liable for what was written on them.

Free speech isn't posting conspiracy stories, foreign manipulated information (originating from Russia) or trying to incite a mob. And the whole Hunter Biden laptop garbage was the same tired Hillary Clinton E-mails manipulation (The data on both was tampered by foreign powers.)

If you are posting Anti-Vaccine conspiracy or Qanon Conspiracies that helps you recruit others you don't deserve your soap box.

If you are posting that Ivermectin in large quantities gets rid of Covid19 while two have already died from overdose in New Mexico and your are helping to just stress a state's poison control emergency central phone number as in the case of Minnesota; then yeah you and your group posting this crap should be silenced. You are endangering others.

If you are making posts about threatening the life of any politician in a mocking video format or in text on social media you should be silenced.

And conservatives whine about Facebook and Twitter but most of their white racial motivated extremist groups (even with the bans) are finding their safe havens and recruitment there; still.

I would love if social media posting platforms were responsible for what was wrote on it, it would mean a lot less GOP Facebook word of kin folk recruitment.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 02:32 PM
Yeah would be great for my investments in facebook because nobody could ever stop them once we strike down that law.

I seriously have so much money invested in facebook, and if we make it so they are liable for stuff posted on their website, there will never, ever, ever be anything BUT facebook.

go go goodguys!

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 02:36 PM
Also it might start the collapse and end times which is a win/win for me.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 03:10 PM
If you dont like it, start your own company. Isnt that how it works? Im sure gap and parlor will over take twitter one of these days. In the mean time, read the TOS. You dont get to do whatever the fuck you want on someone else' platform.

Wow, you registered your name and email, you must own the company now. If one of the rules is "no gun content" or "no trump content" then thats their rules. You dont get to dictate their terms of service you agreed to. You agree to all of them or none of them, thats the point of it.

Thanks for your lawerly expertise but it's almost as if people's entire point here is that these specific companies, the influence they weild, and their ability to legitimately steer elections is extremely new and unprecedented, and may require *updated* or *new* legislation to address these concerns.

You just happen to like the direction the censorship tends to go, so you get all regressive and actually kind of conservative and go "nuh uh, seee, that's the way it goes, that's the law, no updates needed, private company, nahhh nahhh!"

Private companies used to be able to deny people access to their services because they were black. Then that became illegal, because the law was updated.

Patriam1066
12-03-2021, 03:20 PM
Nationalizing Twitter to own the Left. :cool:

Lol’d, good post

Samoht
12-03-2021, 03:27 PM
You just happen to like the direction the censorship tends to go

Are you indicating here that you prefer the lies and misinformation spread by republicans, china, and russia? Do you want twitter to become literal fake news?

Nah, twitter gets the choice to cull problematic users.

Just like you can't scream "FIRE" in a crowded theater, you can't scream "IVERMECTIN CURES COVID" on twitter.

Gtfo of here.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 03:31 PM
The right wants to nationalize twitter because we have invested a lot of money in them, and also it allows us to market on twitter for our investments without competition.

DUHHHHH

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 03:36 PM
Are you indicating here that you prefer the lies and misinformation spread by republicans, china, and russia? Do you want twitter to become literal fake news?

Nah, twitter gets the choice to cull problematic users.

Just like you can't scream "FIRE" in a crowded theater, you can't scream "IVERMECTIN CURES COVID" on twitter.

Gtfo of here.

Haha jesus christ, okay adolf whatever you say. I can tell how persuadable you are.

NEIN!!! DASSS IVERMECTEINZ, EIS JUDENREIN!!

(alternative: treat adults as adults, capable of parsing information and determining if it is in fact true, all on their very own! I mean, "women can't have cocks" is a controversial position they *ALSO* consider "dangerous misinformation" btw)

(oh and also nobody was saying ivermectin "cures" covid, if you could be bothered to actually look into it. It is showing promise for certain patients to lessen the severity of certain symptoms, that's all. I agree with you that people claiming it's some miracle drug are kooks, but that doesn't mean there isn't legitimate science being conducted into it's efficacy. Should we not consider every possible option that might help? Why oppose this drug? It's so politically motivated and retarded.)

Homesteaded
12-03-2021, 03:37 PM
Ivermectin has been dosed in the billions. One of the safest drugs we have. Shut the fuck up

walfreyydo
12-03-2021, 03:47 PM
Saying a private company cannot limit the content on their own platform is like saying a private business, lets say a bakery must make a wedding cake for a gay couple.

See what I did there?


You trump people need to learn consistency in your arguments, the hypocrisy is laughable.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 04:06 PM
Democrats are the ones that are upset about social media not trump people.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 04:33 PM
Saying a private company cannot limit the content on their own platform is like saying a private business, lets say a bakery must make a wedding cake for a gay couple.

See what I did there?


You trump people need to learn consistency in your arguments, the hypocrisy is laughable.

No the weakness of this argument is laughable. The two things are completely different. The baking or not baking of wedding cakes does not swing the elections of the US. The ways future history plays out are not determined by the whims and political biases of the cake baker. The context and circumstances are totally different.

And spare me the hypocrisy charge lol

The left wants the private bakery to be forced to bake the wedding cake
The left also doesn't want twitter to be forced to host conservatives, because private business

Gotta pick one.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 04:36 PM
OK since both of you want to nationalize social media, and so does Zuckerberg. What is stopping it?

Botten
12-03-2021, 04:55 PM
No the weakness of this argument is laughable. The two things are completely different....
...
The left wants the private bakery to be forced to bake the wedding cake
The left also doesn't want twitter to be forced to host conservatives, because private business

Gotta pick one.

It really looks like you have the laughable argument.

1. The conversations isn't that twitter should be forced to host conservatives. The discussion is on free speech. And twitter can ban you for your tweets if they deemed extreme or dangerous misinformation. Something conservative just happen to be guilty on the platform of.

2. Twitter and Facebook are havens for the conservatives.

3. Twitter the private business has guidelines and if you break them you are banned. It is as simple as that.

Your analogy is was just flawed.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 04:57 PM
OK since both of you want to nationalize social media, and so does Zuckerberg. What is stopping it?

I'm not sure what you mean by "nationalizing social media"?

Private businesses used to be able to deny black people from patronizing them, but then the civil rights act of 1964 made that illegal.

Was that nationalizing those businesses.. or... ?

Also, nobody is saying that twitter shouldn't be able to ban conservatives. The argument is that they need to apply their standards equally, and in good faith, to be protected by sec.230, which they blatantly don't. They do this via incredibly vague, nebulous and maleable verbiage like "hatespeech". Hatespeech is not allowed! Okay, well, I consider it to be "hatespeech" when people make jokes about conservatives being white supremacists, because that's complete slander. Will twitter ban those people for "hatespeech"? I have a feeling.... not so much.

Homesteaded
12-03-2021, 05:02 PM
The cake baking fiasco is so misunderstood...the issue was that the couple wanted them to decorate it in a way that made it known that it was for a gay couple. The Bakery would happily sell a cake to the couple. They would not sell and decorate a wedding cake for a gay couple.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 05:02 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by "nationalizing social media"?

Making it so social media answered to a national review of any type.

The current pitch, all 3 sides are proposing, is to strike down that law that prevents social media companies from being liable for things users post, i forget the exact dealio number and law name, Whale remembers I'm sure?

The social media companies convinced america that it would be bad to do that back in the late 90s or 2000s, and we all agreed and so they made that a law.

But now they all changed their minds, the media companies too, mostly because they now have empires large enough to be able to pay for the review boards, while competition would not, so it puts them at a great advantage to maintain control of the "airwaves" so to speak.

So yeah that's the current status of social media laws in this country and where they're headed, because there is not one group that argues against changing the law.

edit: Oh yeah should metion media companies like CNN and FOX also want this to happen because they are losing control of the airwaves to social media and user created content on youtube.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 05:05 PM
It really looks like you have the laughable argument.

1. The conversations isn't that twitter should be forced to host conservatives. The discussion is on free speech. And twitter can ban you for your tweets if they deemed extreme or dangerous misinformation. Something conservative just happen to be guilty on the platform of.

2. Twitter and Facebook are havens for the conservatives.

3. Twitter the private business has guidelines and if you break them you are banned. It is as simple as that.

Your analogy is was just flawed.

No, no, wrong. Read my above reply to jib. I didn't say they can't ban anyone, but sec 230 requires them to apply their editing in good faith and in an unbiased way, which they demonstrably do not.

What is considered "extreme" is just determined by some activist. They consider a benign tweet about election irregularities to be "extremism", BOOM that guy is banned!

Meanwhile antifa and blm literally organized dozens and dozens or riots using these platforms, and the vast majority of accounts have not been banned. This is clearly not a fair, good faith and unbiased application of their policies. It is clearly curated, which makes them a publisher. This is the *entire* issue.

It always just comes down to slimeball lawyerese whenever the left tries to pretend these companies don't stifle conservatives. Oh look guys, they THRIVE on facebook and twitter! Lol what? Why? Because they haven't *all* been banned?

Homesteaded
12-03-2021, 05:05 PM
Bring this to America and you will get results. This is what we need and this is what's coming as a response to this far left lunacy we've all been going along with for far too long.

https://youtu.be/k8IGBDK1BH8

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 05:08 PM
This video is in a strange unknown language...

Edit: gonna quote this over in end times lol

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:10 PM
Should we not consider every possible option that might help? Why oppose this drug?

Diuretics and laxatives are contraindicated during most illnesses due to the danger of dehydration.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 05:13 PM
Diuretics and laxatives are advised against during most illnesses due to the danger of dehydration.

It's not either of those things though? It's an antiparasitic, that also seems to demonstrate antiviral properties based on current research.

The point is that it's extremely bizarre and weird that the left hates this random chemical so much. It's just so obviously political. Perfectly legitimate, good science is telling us this is a safe and effective treatment for some people who are sick with covid.

Who. Cares?? Why does everyone have such a hate boner for this drug? Because hur hurr horse medicine?

"Oh man you're taking Advil for a headache?!?! Lol! My vet gave a huge dose of Advil to a horse to relieve arthritis inflammation! So you're taking horse medicine!!" -an idiot.

Nocht
12-03-2021, 05:15 PM
Posting in a mad libtard thread.

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:16 PM
It's not either of those things though? It's an antiparasitic, that also seems to demonstrate antiviral properties based on current research.

The point is that it's extremely bizarre and weird that the left hates this random chemical so much. It's just so obviously political. Perfectly legitimate, good science is telling us this is a safe and effective treatment for some people who are sick with covid.

Who. Cares?? Why does everyone have such a hate boner for this drug? Because hur hurr horse medicine?

"Oh man you're taking Advil for a headache?!?! Lol! My vet gave a huge dose of Advil to a horse to relieve arthritis inflammation! So you're taking horse medicine!!" -an idiot.

The worms gotta go somewhere, dude. Think about it and light a match after plz.

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 05:21 PM
Thanks for your lawerly expertise but it's almost as if people's entire point here is that these specific companies, the influence they weild, and their ability to legitimately steer elections is extremely new and unprecedented, and may require *updated* or *new* legislation to address these concerns.

You just happen to like the direction the censorship tends to go, so you get all regressive and actually kind of conservative and go "nuh uh, seee, that's the way it goes, that's the law, no updates needed, private company, nahhh nahhh!"

Private companies used to be able to deny people access to their services because they were black. Then that became illegal, because the law was updated.

Maybe stop defunding your schools and you'll stop getting banned. Its more of a read comprehension problem than a left v right problem.

YOU'RE NOT BEING DENIED SERVICE.
Stop making shit up.
You AGREED to their terms.
You cant get banned if you follow the rules.

So if you sew your own mouth shut you can sue a needle and threat company too right? Remember, you're the one who got yourself banned. You have to use the service FIRST before you can be banned. I cant help it if your political party lacks self control, discipline, and the ability to distinguish reality from fiction.


Comparing conservatives posting crazy shit online to the plight of black people in america pre civil rights act is just insane.

You dont have the RIGHT to use someone else' platform to spread your bullshit especially when you agreed in the TOS to not do that.


You can tell they have touched nerves. See how they all flew off the handle? Cause they are banned on social media. lol

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 05:24 PM
The worms gotta go somewhere, dude. Think about it and light a match after plz.

Yes, you shit them out your asshole. That doesn't make the drug a diuretic.

Benadryl is marketed as both a sleep aid and an anti-histamine for allergies. Drugs can have multiple legitimate uses in humans, because chemistry is complex.

But then they call the right "anti-scientific" while exhibiting absolutely no skepticism about their own positions. Which is the definition of anti-scientific. Arrogant self-assured narcissism is the enemy of science.

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:25 PM
Maybe stop defunding your schools and you'll stop getting banned. Its more of a read comprehension problem than a left v right problem.

YOU'RE NOT BEING DENIED SERVICE.
Stop making shit up.
You AGREED to their terms.
You cant get banned if you follow the rules.

So if you sew your own mouth shut you can sue a needle and threat company too right? Remember, you're the one who got yourself banned. You have to use the service FIRST before you can be banned. I cant help it if your political party lacks self control, discipline, and the ability to distinguish reality from fiction.


Comparing conservatives posting crazy shit online to the plight of black people in america pre civil rights act is just insane.

You dont have the RIGHT to use someone else' platform to spread your bullshit especially when you agreed in the TOS to not do that.


You can tell they have touched nerves. See how they all flew off the handle? Cause they are banned on social media. lol

I like the part where this section 230 bullcrap got dunked on and lost in Alito's home circuit and they come here acting like we're the unreasonable maniacs.

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:26 PM
Yes, you shit them out your asshole. That doesn't make the drug a diuretic.


So a laxative then?

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 05:28 PM
OK and how does one encourage the body to expel said worms? Evacuation via POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP, so yeah, it is a laxative as well.

I heard that apple flavor tastes like green jolly ranchers tho

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:30 PM
OK and how does one encourage the body to expel said worms? Evacuation via POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP, so yeah, it is a laxative as well.

I heard that apple flavor tastes like green jolly ranchers tho

"We're fighting the Left by giving ourselves the worst diarrhea of our lifetimes."

Vote Republican!!

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 05:30 PM
Maybe stop defunding your schools and you'll stop getting banned. Its more of a read comprehension problem than a left v right problem.

YOU'RE NOT BEING DENIED SERVICE.
Stop making shit up.
You AGREED to their terms.
You cant get banned if you follow the rules.

So if you sew your own mouth shut you can sue a needle and threat company too right? Remember, you're the one who got yourself banned. You have to use the service FIRST before you can be banned. I cant help it if your political party lacks self control, discipline, and the ability to distinguish reality from fiction.


Comparing conservatives posting crazy shit online to the plight of black people in america pre civil rights act is just insane.

You dont have the RIGHT to use someone else' platform to spread your bullshit especially when you agreed in the TOS to not do that.


You can tell they have touched nerves. See how they all flew off the handle? Cause they are banned on social media. lol

Twitter has an obvious leftwing bias with regard to how they enforce their policies. Explain how they don't, which seems to be your position I think?

There seem to be two contradictory left wing positions here:

1) Twitter isn't biased politically, it's just that only the evil mean right wing people do bad stuff and get banned!

2) Twitter IS biased politically, but that's okay because private company!

Which one is it?

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 05:32 PM
I like the part where this section 230 bullcrap got dunked on and lost in Alito's home circuit and they come here acting like we're the unreasonable maniacs.

Thats what the lawyer kept saying! lol 230 230! omg 230! The judge is like "dude, not our fault they get themselves banned for believing and spreading bullshit and they happen to be conservatives most of the time."

Lol since conspiracy, fake news, death threats, hate groups, and swindlers are almost always right wingers, they want that to be our fault.

We get it. They just want a safe space to post anything they want to anyone they want without any repercussions. If you or I post something they dont like, report report report!! Send death threats!! Dox em!!

Ive always known they wanted a two tier legal system but I didnt think they would have said it so blatantly.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 05:32 PM
So a laxative then?

I already told you it's considered an antiparasitic. Not a laxative. Words have specific meanings.

Jibartik
12-03-2021, 05:32 PM
3) twitter is biased politically and that is good because people are using it less because it sucks and less social media is better than social media of any other type.

https://i.imgur.com/cFmQgyB.png

God bless the free market.

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:35 PM
I already told you it's considered an antiparasitic. Not a laxative. Words have specific meanings.

Abuse of dewormers like ivermectin commonly has a laxative effect. You're being obtuse.

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 05:40 PM
Abuse of dewormers like ivermectin commonly has a laxative effect. You're being obtuse.

Haha, well so are you. I've made this point like a billion times now: Drugs. Can. Do. Different. Things.

Covid is supposed to be really serious right? Well, if ivermectin helps to lessen symptoms and viral load, that's better than *maybe* getting diarrhea isn't it?

Like even if I grant your premise, there's still no reason to oppose the use of this drug to treat people sick with covid. You nutjobs keep calling the right some kind of death cult, while arbitrarily opposing this medication that could save lives for literally no reason. Even if ivermectin does NOTHING for treating covid, it's also very very safe for humans at the doses prescribed for this. So, again, why this totally random hate boner for it? Oh right, politics. Gotta be cool for the rest of the crew.

Homesteaded
12-03-2021, 05:44 PM
The Left doesn't believe in anything, that's why it's so frustrating to appeal to logic with them. All these ghouls care about is dunking and scoring points with other ghouls. They don't believe in facts, they don't believe in God. They are the champion of killing babies. They fought against the end of slavery.

Be happy your parents helped you get to this place. These lefties have nothing to live for other than twitter retweets.

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 05:47 PM
Twitter has an obvious leftwing bias with regard to how they enforce their policies. Explain how they don't, which seems to be your position I think?

There seem to be two contradictory left wing positions here:

1) Twitter isn't biased politically, it's just that only the evil mean right wing people do bad stuff and get banned!

2) Twitter IS biased politically, but that's okay because private company!

Which one is it?

Reality has a left wing bias. Its your sides own fault for departing with it.

You think the people who pray to invisible sky men and RD are the ones who have the firmest grip on reality?

Someone told you that twitter is biased, someone told you how to feel, here you are. How can that be true when the GOP has a twitter page..? The RNC has a twitter page. Right wing think tanks have twitter pages. Most GOP congressmen have a twitter page.

So no, I dont buy your choices. Stop posting lies about people to try to destroy their dads political ambitions and maybe you wont get banned.

I know this is hard to swallow but this is why you dont meet many right winger scientists/programmers/technical field workers. The people who cant follow directions. I'll say it again, its a reading comprehension problem, not a left or right problem. Someone's opinion, right or wrong, isnt the news and I'm glad they dont let people present it as factual news.


Weird how the USA is only like 15% of their user base but you're saying it like we're the only people who post on it. Over a billion people use twitter. So how can it be SOOO left wing when we(usa) only account for like 15% of the platform..?

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 05:49 PM
The Left doesn't believe in anything, that's why it's so frustrating to appeal to logic with them. All these ghouls care about is dunking and scoring points with other ghouls. They don't believe in facts, they don't believe in God. They are the champion of killing babies. They fought against the end of slavery.

Be happy your parents helped you get to this place. These lefties have nothing to live for other than twitter retweets.

^^^ he mad

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 05:51 PM
The Left doesn't believe in anything, that's why it's so frustrating to appeal to logic with them. All these ghouls care about is dunking and scoring points with other ghouls. They don't believe in facts, they don't believe in God. They are the champion of killing babies. They fought against the end of slavery.

Be happy your parents helped you get to this place. These lefties have nothing to live for other than twitter retweets.

https://i.imgur.com/Fp5kjX1.png

Ooloo
12-03-2021, 06:00 PM
Reality has a left wing bias. Its your sides own fault for departing with it.

You think the people who pray to invisible sky men and RD are the ones who have the firmest grip on reality?

Someone told you that twitter is biased, someone told you how to feel, here you are. How can that be true when the GOP has a twitter page..? The RNC has a twitter page. Right wing think tanks have twitter pages. Most GOP congressmen have a twitter page.

So no, I dont buy your choices. Stop posting lies about people to try to destroy their dads political ambitions and maybe you wont get banned.

I know this is hard to swallow but this is why you dont meet many right winger scientists/programmers/technical field workers. The people who cant follow directions. I'll say it again, its a reading comprehension problem, not a left or right problem. Someone's opinion, right or wrong, isnt the news and I'm glad they dont let people present it as factual news.


Weird how the USA is only like 15% of their user base but you're saying it like we're the only people who post on it. Over a billion people use twitter. So how can it be SOOO left wing when we(usa) only account for like 15% of the platform..?

Oh please the company was developed and is headquartered in the US. The policy is drawn up and deployed in the US, under sociopolitical social mores of the US. So it matters, you can't just wash it out into "it's gloobal mannnnn, anything goes!"

And my critique is that their policy is total bullshit, and violates the strictures sec 230 is supposed to impose upon these companies, IN THE US. I don't care how china interacts with twitter, I care about the relationship between election integrity and the dispensation of information in the United States with regard to twitter, that's how this whole argument got started.

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 06:49 PM
what is the plan or ideas, to nationalize these platforms?

We just follow the rules and apply them as they were intended. If you are acting as an open platform for all to speak freely, you are protected under Section 230.

If you censor, edit, editorialize, etc. you aren't protected.

There is no legal penalty for choosing the second option. It just means you are open to all kinds of lawsuits since you are now responsible for everything posted on your website.

It's a good rule when applied as it was intended. Big tech was given the benefit of the doubt, but now that we see they aren't acting in good faith.

They are acting like CNN, therefore can be sued for what's on their website, just like CNN. Social media companies don't have 100% control of their platform, so they won't survive under the section option. Would be a big win for free speech.

Don't like it? Then stay protected under Section 230 by not being a "publisher" and just being a "platform."

Pretty simple. Guess lib brain can comprehend for some.

Samoht
12-03-2021, 07:13 PM
oh and also nobody was saying ivermectin "cures" covid, if you could be bothered to actually look into it. It is showing promise for certain patients to lessen the severity of certain symptoms, that's all.

No it doesn't. And if you post otherwise, you deserve to have your internet footprint deleted entirely. We don't need those kind of bullshit lies that have already been thoroughly debunked when people are out there dying from covid because they think it's a fix. It's not censorship when it's obvious that you're too stupid not to post literal propaganda that is most likely sponsored by a foreign actor. It's treasonous that you would even repeat it.

And your first amendment rights aren't protected while you're committing treason. Stop it.

unsunghero
12-03-2021, 07:25 PM
For people that think twitter is so amazing, this statistic is from 2021:

"206 million users access Twitter daily. 75% of them are not based in the US"

Doing a little math here, 206 - (0.75 * 206) = 51.5 million

51.5 / 320 = 16%

16% of the US population uses twitter daily

Twitter is not representative of anything. It's views are not representative of anything. I have stayed off Twatter and my life is better for it

unsunghero
12-03-2021, 07:35 PM
"If Twitter is so insignificant being 16% of the population, why do Conservatives have a problem with it?"

Part of what makes Twitter seem more significant than it really is, is the left corporate media (and to a lesser extent the right corporate media, because they do it too) referencing what people on it are saying as if it matters. And not even what ALL of twitter is saying, but usually what just a handful of people on twitter are saying. When you don't want to report on actual news because it doesn't fit your narrative, just report on what people on Twitter are saying

And sometimes their viewers are just dumb enough to believe that matters

Whale biologist
12-03-2021, 07:47 PM
For people that think twitter is so amazing, this statistic is from 2021:

"206 million users access Twitter daily. 75% of them are not based in the US"

Doing a little math here, 206 - (0.75 * 206) = 51.5 million

51.5 / 320 = 16%

16% of the US population uses twitter daily

Twitter is not representative of anything. It's views are not representative of anything. I have stayed off Twatter and my life is better for it

Couldn't you have just done 0.25 * 206? Fucking common core!

unsunghero
12-03-2021, 07:59 PM
Couldn't you have just done 0.25 * 206? Fucking common core!

I like giving my self extra math for no reason, don't judge me!

Gatordash
12-03-2021, 07:59 PM
Couldn't you have just done 0.25 * 206? Fucking common core!

1/4 x 206/1 = 206/4. 206/4 = 51.5

Patriam1066
12-03-2021, 09:01 PM
Learn logic. Learn to read. Let's talk then.

"I don't like this law. It can only be enforced by ((strawman)) way of enforcing it. This confirms it is bad."

Cynical/evil, narrow-minded, or just ignorant/stupid. Haven't got a read on you being which one, but closer to the block button - you waste precious post space that could be used by other upstanding and intelligent members of our community.

You want big government in this one particular case, huh? I want crypto banned as its treason to Jesus Christ and the United States. Can you see why we don’t expand the powers of the government based on the whims of individuals but instead adhere, to the best of our ability, to the Constitution?

But real talk crypto ownership is immediate entry into hell upon death

Swish
12-03-2021, 09:19 PM
I want crypto banned as its treason to Jesus Christ

Sorry you missed the point of entry.

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 09:31 PM
You want big government in this one particular case, huh? I want crypto banned as its treason to Jesus Christ and the United States. Can you see why we don’t expand the powers of the government based on the whims of individuals but instead adhere, to the best of our ability, to the Constitution?

But real talk crypto ownership is immediate entry into hell upon death

Just want the laws on the books enforced. I guess that makes me pro big govmint.

You're missing crypto like most missed the internet. All good, enjoy holding inferior assets.

Castle2.0
12-03-2021, 09:34 PM
Twitter represents the US like this forum represents Norrath.

Elizondo
12-03-2021, 10:35 PM
Are you indicating here that you prefer the lies and misinformation spread by republicans, china, and russia? Do you want twitter to become literal fake news?

Nah, twitter gets the choice to cull problematic users.

Just like you can't scream "FIRE" in a crowded theater, you can't scream "IVERMECTIN CURES COVID" on twitter.

Gtfo of here.

Purebloods will inherit The Earth

Gravydoo II
12-03-2021, 10:49 PM
Not according to your own doctrine. I thought you were being "wiped out" and "Replaced" lololol now you'll inherit the earth hahahahahahahahaha

bubur
12-03-2021, 10:53 PM
Not according to your own doctrine. I thought you were being "wiped out" and "Replaced" lololol now you'll inherit the earth hahahahahahahahaha

this was always the thing that confused me tbh

like if the vaccine kills everyone that takes it, then why would they give it to the ppl that are the most easily influenced by appeals to authority to take it

counterpoint being the people that take it and a healthy amount of boosters will no longer be able to have children, that's possible. and maybe they don't care who we are or what we believe in; they just want to slow down the population growth

possible anyway.

t.
i got the double jab, probably wont get a booster until they force me too because i am not afraid of coofing, or killing your grandma

Elizondo
12-03-2021, 11:45 PM
Not according to your own doctrine. I thought you were being "wiped out" and "Replaced" lololol now you'll inherit the earth hahahahahahahahaha

When the tainted dna collapses, Purebloods will reign supreme for sure

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:15 AM
Twitter represents the US like this forum represents Norrath.

why then do we need to have the FTC investigate them for censoring conservatives if it's a junk space that doesn't represent the US?

where in your oh so important mind is the line drawn between public space and p99 forum or my sms messages?

Gustoo
12-04-2021, 01:49 AM
this was always the thing that confused me tbh

like if the vaccine kills everyone that takes it, then why would they give it to the ppl that are the most easily influenced by appeals to authority to take it



I don’t believe this but maybe it’s a heroic act to find everyone who does what they’re told (like nazis did throwing Jews in ovens) and killing them.

I think a more common conspiracy would be some kinda mind control but if you gotta re up your mind control every 5 months it’s not that good.

I think the more likely reality is it’s a money grab by pharma and their friends. I think they made like a trillion zillion dollars profit?

Or wow it’s a heroic effort to save the world from one of the least deadly viruses we’ve ever encountered?

It’s a good opportunity to test latest biotech on humans en masse with a government written promise not to hold them accountable for whatever the hell happens. That’s why USA is all about pfiesser and the other one because they’re next gen tools that need testing.

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:54 AM
The vax is going to be ok to take and based on actual medical science. For as long as it takes for the antichrist to rise to power.

Then he will use a vax (that everyone is conditioned to saying yes to because of the real vaccines) to make them bleed their allegiance to him casting their soul into dust.

One way to know that vax wont be real is because you wont have to wear masks when we're told we have to take it.

If this vax was anything more than a vax, then revelations would say, "only those that had the mark on their foreheads, right arm or hid their shame were allowed to buy or sell"

So I think it's safe to get the jab until it's a bit more obvious.

What we should be concerned about is the first horse of revelations is a white one and its name is pestilence.

Duik
12-04-2021, 02:11 AM
Ivermectin has been dosed in the billions. One of the safest drugs we have. Shut the fuck up

Not in the dosages needed to affect Covid. I've linked the original Australian Study previously. It was experimented with as a treatment but with a long caveat that most tldr morons ignored. You know who you are...
Aspirin and contraceptives also has been dosed in the millions! Give one of those a shot tldr'ers.

Also, read above post. Horse Paste Of The Apocolypse.

Homesteaded
12-04-2021, 02:14 AM
Hey dipshit,

It doesn't matter what issue is being addressed with the medicine to set it's safety rating. The safety rating is independent of the issue. More morons.

Homesteaded
12-04-2021, 02:15 AM
^^^ he mad

You're god damned right I'm mad. You should be mad to. You're pissing away the greatest country on earth for less credit than a platinum in Norrath. Fuck you and fuck your kind.

Castle2.0
12-04-2021, 02:47 AM
why then do we need to have the FTC investigate them for censoring conservatives if it's a junk space that doesn't represent the US?

where in your oh so important mind is the line drawn between public space and p99 forum or my sms messages?

Companies have the freedom to decide for themselves.

They can be an open platform or they can be a publisher.

Simple.

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 02:49 AM
what makes you an open platform vs publisher?

Castle2.0
12-04-2021, 11:09 AM
I think a platform would need to fit a few criteria:


Open to the general public and 'free of charge' (no subscription, fees, or paywall)
Driven by user content
Any content moderation is not done centrally by the company (i.e. Reddit allows anyone to run their own 'reddit' and those 'reddit' mods can moderate as they please, but Reddit itself is not moderating content beyond what is legally required.
Size. As soon as you're big enough to be a 'public square' and enjoy a natural monopoly.


If you fit all of the above criteria, you are defacto a platform.

Smaller companies that want 230 Section protection should be allowed to self-declare as a platform if they meet all the criteria except size.

The legislators can figure out the rest of the details.

Gravydoo II
12-04-2021, 11:32 AM
You're god damned right I'm mad. You should be mad to. You're pissing away the greatest country on earth for less credit than a platinum in Norrath. Fuck you and fuck your kind.

My kind? Veterans..?

Homesteaded
12-04-2021, 11:53 AM
My kind? Veterans..?

You’re a disgrace and your father isn’t proud.

Elizondo
12-04-2021, 11:55 AM
My kind? Veterans..?

lol this dude says he's a vet and has a pic of a terrorist as his avatar

gotta be the bergers

Whale biologist
12-04-2021, 12:32 PM
Biden nearly ended the drone war (https://theweek.com/foreign-policy/1007579/biden-nearly-ended-the-drone-war-and-nobody-noticed)

Immediately after taking office, he set up a new system requiring White House approval for any strikes outside of active war zones (and later published Trump's loose rules that enabled so many civilian massacres). Now that the occupation of Afghanistan is over, that requirement applies almost everywhere, and it appears Biden is extremely reluctant to grant approval. Where Trump oversaw more than 1,600 air and artillery strikes in Iraq and Syria during his first 11 months in office, Airwars reports just four during Biden's term so far.

Elizondo
12-04-2021, 12:53 PM
Biden nearly ended the drone war (https://theweek.com/foreign-policy/1007579/biden-nearly-ended-the-drone-war-and-nobody-noticed)

Bro when he was VP with Obama he was dronin brown babies all over the ME

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:14 PM
I think a platform would need to fit a few criteria:


Open to the general public and 'free of charge' (no subscription, fees, or paywall)
Driven by user content
Any content moderation is not done centrally by the company (i.e. Reddit allows anyone to run their own 'reddit' and those 'reddit' mods can moderate as they please, but Reddit itself is not moderating content beyond what is legally required.
Size. As soon as you're big enough to be a 'public square' and enjoy a natural monopoly.


If you fit all of the above criteria, you are defacto a platform.

Smaller companies that want 230 Section protection should be allowed to self-declare as a platform if they meet all the criteria except size.

The legislators can figure out the rest of the details.

So we should be able to report p99 to the feds to have them review every post and then jail Rogan and nilbog for the things we said?

Or should our internet identity link to our real life and then we are liable?

Or should they shut the website down?

There is a smoking gun on nearly every post on this forum that would hold up in court for half the acts of terror that happened in the last 9 months. :(

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:17 PM
Biden nearly ended the drone war (https://theweek.com/foreign-policy/1007579/biden-nearly-ended-the-drone-war-and-nobody-noticed)

So I was rather taken aback to discover President Biden has almost totally halted drone strikes, and airstrikes in general, around the world. It's a remarkable foreign policy reform, but also a remarkable failure of both government communication and media coverage. A hugely significant change in foreign policy has happened — and almost nobody is paying attention.

jlxDCjdEVbI

of course maybe they didn't report it because this is a bishop to rook move, and the empire is allowing the caliphate room to grow. :p ✝

unsunghero
12-04-2021, 01:19 PM
So we should be able to report p99 to the feds to have them review every post and then jail Rogan and nilbog for the things we said?

Or should our internet identity link to our real life and then we are liable?

Or should they shut the website down?

There is a smoking gun on nearly every post on this forum that would hold up in court for half the acts of terror that happened in the last 9 months. :(

When people say “will will never be rid of school shootings”, I think one of our best lines of defense actually is material posted online

I don’t recall specific threats here on P99. I DO recall a past kid posting online that he planned to be a “professional schools shooter”, it getting reported to the FBI, and the FBI basically ignoring it. That was a specific threat, didn’t appear to be a joke, didn’t appear to mean in a video game. And yet the FBI did nothing. I don’t think that’s how it should be handled. Obviously we can’t throw the kid in jail forever, but when threats like that are made, some sort of parent contact and monitoring should be put in place

Oftentimes, that’s the only warning we are ever going to get

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:24 PM
Well this just reminds me that after we defeat the demonrats that the republicants are going to try to blame outside influence for everything strip me of my rights too instead of just accepting that in a world of freedom there is a pain.

Entropy creates suffering which invented happiness.

I don’t recall specific threats here on P99.

There were no specific threats at all for the last shooter, vague references to wanting everyone to die.

I think one of our best lines of defense actually is material posted online

Made with crayon on paper....

Obviously we can’t throw the kid in jail forever, but when threats like that are made, some sort of parent contact and monitoring should be put in place

think about what you are suggesting here. That when someone says something in a public space you think they should report their name and number and their family should be contacted.

its 1000000000% video games cause violence.

Like, have any of you actualy been a kid before? didnt you go to that one kids house that killed animals? and you were like WTF?

well I went to that kids house like 50 times in 50 different states, they. are. everywhere.

Just get over it.

We dont need to regulate video games and the internet and put parrental advisory stickers (because thats what they thought caused all the shootigns int he 80s! music!!!)

It's blame one outside influence after the other with pearl clutchers.

dont be one!

unsunghero
12-04-2021, 01:32 PM
This might be controversial with conservatives, but I don’t see why since we have no problem with felons losing gun rights…

…that if you post a bunch of direct threats online, you should be flagged in the FBI system in regards to gun purchasing. I’m not saying not able to buy a gun ever, maybe just a mandatory waiting period of 3 months. A waiting period might do nothing at all, but if just one crazy person with a short attention span loses interest and abandons the plan after a month, then it just saved lives

Obviously whoever analyzes these threats would need to be very focused on context. Some people might just suck at making a joke. Some people shouldn’t be comedians but try anyway. It might require looking through some past communication to get a better idea of context. Context is everything

Edit: when I’m dealing with analyzing threats in my job, the context (what was the communication and behaviors immediately prior to the threat) is one of the first questions I have

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:44 PM
because that's a registry to imprison dissentienters.

Obviously whoever analyzes these threats would need to be very focused on context

https://i.imgur.com/znShxbh.png

Whale biologist
12-04-2021, 01:47 PM
because that's a registry to imprison dissentienters.



https://i.imgur.com/znShxbh.png

Also endrounds the justice system. Convict or pound sand!

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:50 PM
If I buy a gun, and I dont want it anymore, and I give it to someone, and they use it to rob a bank, it's not my fault.

If it was my fault then the future will be: When I think about looking at a gun online a goverment agency is going to be alerted and my name will go onto a flagged list where all of my other internet posts will be reviewed by an AI system to determine threat levels if any of the threats I have made online are too nuanced for the type of person Horza is to not understand then I will be considered a danger to society and my social credit will go down and my interest rates will go up.

All because I looked at a picture of a gun because I wanted to see what it looked like.

unsunghero
12-04-2021, 01:51 PM
The other problem too, is who is investigating these threats?? A police officer in uniform coming to a kid’s home and saying “did you post online that you wanted to shoot your classmates?!” is a terrible fucking setup. Police uniforms with all the gear on them are designed to intimidate, I have no problem with that concept. But the combination of intimidating uniform/gear + blunt accusatory question, of fucking course the kid is going to deny it

But send a social worker who begins with building rapport and validating the kid, and all of a sudden you have a whole different interview. “Bullying is so hard to escape these days, it can happen both at school and online now, has this been happening to you? How much has it impacted your life? What are some of the things you think you can do to make it stop?” A kid is still going to have to be fairly dumb to confess to a social worker that they are harboring thoughts of killing others, but let’s face it MOST past school shooters have been fairly dumb kids. And they are more likely to admit it in the second scenario than the first

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 01:52 PM
I've seen enough documentaries to know that social workers will just kidnap kids from republicans and put them into drug abusing foster homes or much much worse.

Id never want to live in a country where something Ive said in jest here, or something any of my hilarious kids say in jest, gets us investigated by the state fuuuuuck that.

Id be so pissed off at the accusation that the state would take my kids for sure.

Ooloo
12-04-2021, 02:18 PM
If you could wave a magic wand and entirely eliminate all school shootings, or all inter-personal gun homicide (think chicago), but not both, the majority of people would undoubtedly choose school shootings, even though the latter category represents exponentially more deaths per year.

I'm not sure what to make of this, but I always think about it when a school shooting is all over the headlines. And that's not to minimize school shootings at all.

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 02:44 PM
Didnt the goverment already setup some program where what kids say online is reviewed and they like, the feds contact the parents? And even have made some arrests?

I swear they set this up a few years ago.

Ooloo
12-04-2021, 02:46 PM
Didnt the goverment already setup some program where what kids say online is reviewed and they like, the feds contact the parents? And even have made some arrests?

I swear they set this up a few years ago.

I think the country is just too big for that to ever work. I mean god damn think of all the horrible shit kids routinely say to one another over voice chat in like call of duty or whatever. And that game is *about* guns.

Jibartik
12-04-2021, 07:59 PM
It's all the far sides fault.

https://i.imgur.com/MPhJamd.png

Gravydoo II
12-04-2021, 11:14 PM
lol this dude says he's a vet and has a pic of a terrorist as his avatar

gotta be the bergers

Cant help if you dont know who that is. Get out of the house more. That makes you a shut in and a retard. Go outside. Its nice out. Try watching something that isnt about how you're a victim..

Trexller
12-05-2021, 12:58 AM
lol this dude says he's a vet and has a pic of a terrorist as his avatar

gotta be the bergers

yeah he's not a veteran of any military service.

i wouldn't even believe he served in the salvation army.

I can smell stolen valor when its around me

robayon
12-05-2021, 02:38 AM
stealing valor is acceptable when there's no valor to be had in modern us military service

Homesteaded
12-05-2021, 10:20 AM
Poor Gravy, T’s and P’s.

Gravydoo II
12-05-2021, 11:26 AM
yeah he's not a veteran of any military service.

i wouldn't even believe he served in the salvation army.

I can smell stolen valor when its around me

That smell is you need to take a shower.

Sounds like someone is upset. Its something you cant take from me or anyone else.

You dont have to believe shit. Fact is, i traveled around the world on your dime, getting drunk on your money. I may have even fucked your sister.

Do something, pussy. Oh wait, pussy waits to be told.

Jibartik
12-05-2021, 11:31 AM
Im glad my ivory progressive utopia has soldiers willing to fight for it so we can establish our dominance then put him to sleep.

unsunghero
12-05-2021, 01:31 PM
stealing valor is acceptable when there's no valor to be had in modern us military service

It's not acceptable when around actual service members or vets though. Good way to get your ass kicked in public, or at the very least called out and confronted verbally. I've seen the vids of it

hobart
12-06-2021, 01:55 PM
Twitter is not representative of anything. It's views are not representative of anything. I have stayed off Twatter and my life is better for it

Werd.

Sadly, I am beginning to think that Trumptards and the advertising departments for large corporations have given Twitter so much juice for so long that they've actually made it a self-fulfilling prophecy of a sort.

When you can post some woke bullshit on Twitter and change the way Coca-Cola or the NHL behave, you arguably have relevance even though you 100% absolutely shouldn't.

Jibartik
12-06-2021, 02:13 PM
When you can post some woke bullshit on Twitter and change the way Coca-Cola or the NHL behave, you arguably have relevance even though you 100% absolutely shouldn't.

the reason coke or NHL care is because CNN spent 4 hours talking about it.