While waiting on red 2.0

[Tradesonred]

Forever? XD

Take a look at UO outlands, if you like to revisit old MMOs. You can box 3 accounts, server is full of people, custom quality map, all kinds of fun crap to OCD on. Full loot PVP, crafting, its graphics are actually super charming and neat if you like the retro isometric look. They just had an expansion 2 months ago with a new part of the map opened.

The interface is archaic and feels impenetrable at first though but if you persist, look for guides (look for trammie surprise/pwnstar on youtube), after a day it feels natural.

https://uooutlands.com/

[brinkman512]

UO outlands is awesome! Huge time sink though if you go balls deep.

[starkind]

I wish I could get into it.

[Tradesonred]

UO outlands is awesome! Huge time sink though if you go balls deep.

Relative to what though? You can have a max level char who can do end game content in like 2 days in UO outlands. Just google for starter builds. Obviously there must be degrees of end game you cant touch, but you can do dungeons like Aegis easy.

Compare that to the one week give or take it took me to get to 40 on red on my new alt monk, with the 2nd best non-raid weap, a fungi and a fbss. Someone starting from scratch here will have a tough time trying to solo start to the top compared to UO.

[brinkman512]

You are totally right. A build can be working within couple of hours and tons of fun to be had. My response wasn't meant to be negative. A rewarding grind can be a good thing for an MMO.

I just meant if you really want to get the most out of your character and min / max then there are so many things to grind on:
- Mastery Chains
- Aspects
Depending on your build:
- Taming Beastiary
- Wizard's Grimoire
- Codex for each weapon type

@PVP: The great thing is, most of the grindy stuff does not affect PVP!

If anyone looking for a great alternative to p1999 red => try UO Outlands!

[New_Guy]

Forever? XD

Take a look at UO outlands, if you like to revisit old MMOs. You can box 3 accounts, server is full of people, custom quality map, all kinds of fun crap to OCD on. Full loot PVP, crafting, its graphics are actually super charming and neat if you like the retro isometric look. They just had an expansion 2 months ago with a new part of the map opened.

The interface is archaic and feels impenetrable at first though but if you persist, look for guides (look for trammie surprise/pwnstar on youtube), after a day it feels natural.

https://uooutlands.com/

Ever since I met the Sams, I've been anti boxing

[ReoDobbs]

Comparing UO outlands to actual UO is like comparing WoW to EQ

[Tradesonred]

Comparing UO outlands to actual UO is like comparing WoW to EQ

lol whos comparing outlands to the actual UO, which i never played? How about you read the fucking thread before commenting you fucking nerd...