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Jimjam
11-28-2021, 04:51 AM
According to a member of the enc community, Theft of Thought is only doing partial taps when their target is low mana:

I was sieving and ToTing the King in Chardok a couple days ago and I will think it is already working this way on Blue. My last ToT cast did not give me the amount (9ish %) I generally get


This doesn't line up with expectations of how mana drains functioned prior to the 2005 class reinvisioning (https://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=5282&p=2):


we will also be changing drains so that they only return the mana the NPC has instead of always returning the full amount.

If an NPC only has 100 mana and your spell does a 400 drain, you will only get 100 mana. This is a necessary change as most NPCs, including non-casters, are given small amounts of mana in order to power some innates.

i.e. prior to 2005 mana drain doesn't work as a tap - it simply gives you full mana amount for the spell regardless of how much mana the target had (as long as it had a mana stat?).

Mana drain also appears it should be working on NPCs with innate spells, not just caster classes (in 2005 many NPCs had these, but I suppose 2001 and earlier some NPCs like dragons, etc also did).

Jimjam
11-28-2021, 12:22 PM
Link to thread containing Vaarsuvius post (I forgot quote link are broke) https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3392776#post3392776

eisley
11-28-2021, 12:30 PM
Signed. Even worked on non-casters.

Potus
02-03-2023, 05:53 PM
I just got to 51 and was using ToT last night and it's super buggy. It should always be giving the full amount.

Potus
03-16-2023, 04:45 PM
Was casting ToT on caster mobs last night and got 1% return. Just broken sadly.

Crede
03-16-2023, 09:20 PM
ToT used to give full mana. It was patched in the 2019 patch. Not sure what evidence was provided then to change it to how it currently is

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335650&highlight=Theft+thought

Potus
03-17-2023, 03:42 PM
ToT used to give full mana. It was patched in the 2019 patch. Not sure what evidence was provided then to change it to how it currently is

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335650&highlight=Theft+thought

That is bizarre, it never worked that way during classic.