Lest We Forget the 'Victims'

[Castle2.0]

Name: Joseph Rosenbaum (shot and killed)
Age: 36
Criminal Record: Sentenced to 10 years in prison on child molestation charges. Spent just over 14 years in prison and committed dozens of disciplinary infractions, state records show. Pending charges in Wisconsin for domestic abuse and jumping bail at time of death.
Background: Recently release from mental hospital after suicide attempt


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Name: Anthony Huber (shot and killed)
Age: 26
Criminal Record: Convicted of domestic abuse and disorderly conduct in 2018. Served prison time in 2012 for choking his brother.
Background: Skateboarder


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Name: Gaige Grosskreutz (shot and de-biceped)
Age: 28
Criminal Record: Expired license for gun he pointed at Kyle before having bicep shot off in self-defense
Background: Suing Wisconsin state for $10M for "not being protected" that night from Kyle Rittenhouse. Financially motivated to get a guilty verdict and cover his own ass.


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Do not forget them. Say their names. Read their rap sheets.

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[Jibartik]

-_ln5YeJLNA

[Whale biologist]

crimes don't become not-crimes because the victims did bad thing too

Hope this helps

[Jibartik]

In death, their crimes have no name.

Their names, are Robert Paulson.

[Toxigen]

and nothing of value was lost

[Gravydoo II]

There is no line. You broke the law, any law, you deserve to die. Thats how right wingers are. Sick, sick people.

I wonder how they feel about their own law breaking.. Cause they have never ever broken the law or supported a treacherous coup.

[Whale biologist]

and nothing of value was lost

Her name was Ashli..

[GinnasP99]

Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions.

[robayon]

There is no line. You broke the law, any law, you deserve to die. Thats how right wingers are. Sick, sick people.

I wonder how they feel about their own law breaking.. Cause they have never ever broken the law or supported a treacherous coup.They want to live on this planet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation

I don't know why wikipedia is being so weird with this link

[Trexller]

They want to live on this planet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

should have let them kill wesley crusher, would have improved the series dramatically.

[robayon]

should have let them kill wesley crusher, would have improved the series dramatically.Good thing that Prime Directive was always so malleable!

[Whale biologist]

should have let them kill wesley crusher, would have improved the series dramatically.

lol

[Jibartik]

Westle crusher is the best character on the show!

He evolves from a boy, to the starchild.

his storyline is literally 2001 it's incredible, he becomes the next phase of human evolution.

The first human Q.

Imagine him traveling through the infinite voids of the universe through time and space never dying.

God is Westley Crusher.

https://i.imgur.com/DwcFAaZ.jpeg

[unsunghero]

Allison > Jesus

[starkind]

Westle crusher is the best character on the show!

He evolves from a boy, to the starchild.

his storyline is literally 2001 it's incredible, he becomes the next phase of human evolution.

The first human Q.

Imagine him traveling through the infinite voids of the universe through time and space never dying.

God is Westley Crusher.

https://i.imgur.com/DwcFAaZ.jpeg

[Trexller]

Westle crusher is the best character on the show!

He evolves from a boy, to the starchild.

his storyline is literally 2001 it's incredible, he becomes the next phase of human evolution.

The first human Q.

Imagine him traveling through the infinite voids of the universe through time and space never dying.

God is Westley Crusher.

The first Human Q was some 1 episode blonde intern chick. (Ep. True Q) Or we could say Riker was the first human Q, as he was temporarily imbued with Q powers as, I guess some sort of test from Q. (Ep. Hide and Q)

Wesley is crushed on by some entity known as, "The Traveler" who then later comes back and takes the boy on some... who knows what...

Wesley then returns later, doing whatever, I dunno i looked up the Q episodes you do the rest

[Jibartik]

Wesley is crushed on by some entity known as, "The Traveler" who then later comes back and takes the boy on some... who knows what...

the end of 2001

https://i.imgur.com/UesUUp8.gif

I was using Q as a laymans term for god. :)

Westly has crossed between the realm of the dead and back and can freely.

That's pretty bad a :D

From weener to winner.

I just like the starchild idea, where humanity is left behind, and our next phase of evolution begins. I always thought they kind of went that direction with his character and I thought it was unusually cool.

[Trexller]

you guys don't really like wesley crusher, do you? wil wheaton seems like a chill dude, but wesley crusher is annoying AF and just not believable.

you're trolling me right?

right?!

[unsunghero]

you guys don't really like wesley crusher, do you? wil wheaton seems like a chill dude, but wesley crusher is annoying AF and just not believable.

you're trolling me right?

right?!

Wil Weaton is a bit of a self-righteous liberal douche irl but he was in The Guild web tv show so I can’t hate him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=grCTXGW3sxQ

[Jibartik]

you guys don't really like wesley crusher, do you? wil wheaton seems like a chill dude, but wesley crusher is annoying AF and just not believable.

you're trolling me right?

right?!

no hes a weener but because he becomes the starchild I think it is such an awesome character arch that it makes me really like his character, weener to winner!

[loramin]

Wil Weaton is a bit of a self-righteous liberal douche irl but he was in The Guild web tv show so I can’t hate him

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=grCTXGW3sxQ

Did that show actually get good later? I tried to watch it, and I wanted to like it (it's a show about MMOGs, how could I not) ... but I gave up after the first ten minutes or so was nothing but cringe.

[unsunghero]

Did that show actually get good later? I tried to watch it, and I wanted to like it (it's a show about MMOGs, how could I not) ... but I gave up after the first ten minutes or so was nothing but cringe.

I found it cute. And slightly edgy, for example the fat girl completely neglects her toddler kids while playing

I saw it years ago when I was really into WoW so might have been jaded

The show I felt had just too cringe dialog was when a friend tried to get me into anime (I liked his one punch man recommendation) with sword art online. Holy shit that dialog was cringe into a raisin

[loramin]

I found it cute. And slightly edgy, for example the fat girl completely neglects her toddler kids while playing

I saw it years ago when I was really into WoW so might have been jaded

The show I felt had just too cringe dialog was when a friend tried to get me into anime (I liked his one punch man recommendation) with sword art online. Holy shit that dialog was cringe into a raisin

Ha, well most Americans fail to realize that 95+% of the anime we watch is made for children; it's the Japanese equivalent of He-Man and GI Joe. Sometimes a good translation can help that (see: Naruto) ... but a bad one only makes the fact all the more noticable.

[Gravydoo II]

Does the law still protect you if you happened to survive prison?

Dont get me wrong, these things usually sort themselves out via prison yard shankings.

He survived, he deserves his freedom according to the laws of the society you elected.

Sex offenders deserve death? Rape daddy was accused 26 times, twice for rape as president. Weird how he doesnt deserve death. Matt gaetz, either. Really weird.. Roy Moore, didnt see anything about him being killed, too.

[starkind]

Bring back swift and speedy trials and the death penalty. People are insane and get away with insane fucking shit. That would have ended their lives prior to 1980. Without a tear shed. Or anyone noticing.

If these dirtbags went missing outside of any riot prior to political unrest and extremism none of you would have battled a fucking eyelash or noticed. And it wouldn't have been newsworthy.

[Trexller]

Rape daddy was accused

[Trexller]

Bring back swift and speedy trials and the death penalty. People are insane and get away with insane fucking shit. That would have ended their lives prior to 1980. Without a tear shed. Or anyone noticing.

If these dirtbags went missing outside of any riot prior to political unrest and extremism none of you would have battled a fucking eyelash or noticed. And it wouldn't have been newsworthy.

Too many innocent people get executed that way, and in a highly litigious society like ours, thats bad for business.

[Whale biologist]

Rape daddy was accused

Yup. Should be a #trial. :p

[Jibartik]

Yup. Should be a #trial. :p

https://i.imgur.com/OzxIF76.gif

"The human race is on trial, if found guilty they will be incinerated along with their planet."

https://i.imgur.com/svsjDLr.gif

[Gravydoo II]

Why wont he take the DNA test?? Whats he scared of?? Five years hes been running from it.. five years of hiding. An innocent man with nothing to hide would take it. Weird how he is sooooooo scared of it.

[starkind]

https://i.imgur.com/OzxIF76.gif

"The human race is on trial, if found guilty they will be incinerated along with their planet."

https://i.imgur.com/svsjDLr.gif

[Trexller]

please find us guilty

[Elizondo]

HRA3majpFXI

[starkind]

I imagine if God, the real one, not lucifer or yaldoabath tunes into prayer radio.

It's just like a live feed of off topic spamming really fast.

[robayon]

Fz_4nI1tZ3M

[starkind]

Fz_4nI1tZ3M

https://i.imgur.com/NLmpVqh.jpeg

If it makes him happy who am I to tell him how to live and be himself?

[Jibartik]

is milos final form the tiger king?

[starkind]

Idk.

That guys finger lengths tho. Questioning whether he really a male or not.

[Ooloo]

Hahahah milo, wtf are you doing now

He looks like some character from eastbound and down

[starkind]

fukkin old ladies that's what

[Ooloo]

Oh and btw yes the "victims" brought their fate upon themselves. Since Gravy is dumb and crazy as usual, I'll point out that highlighting their criminal histories speaks to their state of mind chasing kyle and their status as a legitimate threat to him at the time. It's highly unlikely they were valiantly trying to "stop an active shooter" like good little boyscouts with rap sheets like that.

Nobody is saying they "deserved" to die, but they made choices and took actions against a guy with a gun who was trying to get away from them. Take it as a cautionary tale. "Chasing guy holding a huge gun = BAD"

[Smoofers]

Retards looking for trouble get shot, film at 11

[unsunghero]

It was Washington

[hobart]

I'll point out that highlighting their criminal histories speaks to their state of mind chasing kyle and their status as a legitimate threat to him at the time.

No it doesn't. Unless he's a robot with facial recognition software and access to some sort of criminal database.

He went to own libs. He owned some libs. He should be punished. Murder, manslaughter, reckless something or other? I'm not sure which of these he's technically guilty of, but he should be found guilty.

[Skarne]

No it doesn't. Unless he's a robot with facial recognition software and access to some sort of criminal database.

He went to own libs. He owned some libs. He should be punished. Murder, manslaughter, reckless something or other? I'm not sure which of these he's technically guilty of, but he should be found guilty.

Except that he’s not guilty and was a clear case of self defense. You’re blinded dude and you need to take a step back.

I’ve said this before, I lean left. The videos were clear as day. The folks attacking him were fanatic maniacs just like the folks defending those people. Just like the right has fanatics who are blinded.

[BlackBellamy]

Well since the Kyle Rittenhouse thread just got locked at HEROIC POST #796 (Thank you Castle2.0!), I expect this to be locked too, so thank you everyone for participating in that thread, it was a blast and it joins my other locked posts, which were all resounding successes like that one.

[Ooloo]

No it doesn't. Unless he's a robot with facial recognition software and access to some sort of criminal database.

He went to own libs. He owned some libs. He should be punished. Murder, manslaughter, reckless something or other? I'm not sure which of these he's technically guilty of, but he should be found guilty.

I didn't say *kyle* knew their background, but for the rest of us, their backgrounds absolutely lend credibility to the idea that they were attacking and trying to seriously hurt kyle, not trying to "stop an active shooter" which was the only flimsy justification for their actions the prosecution could muster.

[Douglas Fir]

There is still time for the political hacks at the Dept of Justice to come in with some Civil Rights charges. Based on how petty the DoJ has been over the last 9 months I wouldn't be shocked.

[robayon]

This is good for BitCoin

[hobart]

Except that he’s not guilty and was a clear case of self defense. You’re blinded dude and you need to take a step back.

I’ve said this before, I lean left. The videos were clear as day. The folks attacking him were fanatic maniacs just like the folks defending those people. Just like the right has fanatics who are blinded.

This has turned out to be all about politics, but it should not have.

I don't care which way you "lean". I don't want non-cops arming themselves and inserting themselves into dangerous situations where they'll inevitably end up killing someone - even if that someone was a piece of shit.

Free licenses for politically radicalized nutjobs to kill politically radicalized nutjobs on the "other side". Just arm yourself, head to a site of unrest, and press and press until you get the result you're waiting for.

[Toxigen]

say it with me

NOT GUILTY

https://i.imgur.com/4nRtVQ9.png

[Jibartik]

Absolutely love the closure of the thread lol

[Jibartik]

So now we can say all the protestors were terrorists?

[Toxigen]

how many cities gun burn this weekend w/ media outlets reporting "mostly peaceful" protests?

[Jibartik]

I predict none.

Memories already.

This was a high point of this trial for me https://twitter.com/i/status/1461113021397446660

[Knowledge]

Adriaaaaan!

[Castle2.0]

"It's over." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogaV_9cUbQo)

[Castle2.0]

Roll the credits... to this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B93C241bNzc

[Elizondo]

jtdrKFgdMxI

[Skarne]

This has turned out to be all about politics, but it should not have.

I don't care which way you "lean". I don't want non-cops arming themselves and inserting themselves into dangerous situations where they'll inevitably end up killing someone - even if that someone was a piece of shit.

Free licenses for politically radicalized nutjobs to kill politically radicalized nutjobs on the "other side". Just arm yourself, head to a site of unrest, and press and press until you get the result you're waiting for.

https://youtu.be/Rpq35wyDi7I

[Jibartik]

"It's over." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogaV_9cUbQo)

now your thread is booming, castle a mod confirmed.

[Ooloo]

Hobart might find it within himself to condemn the rioters some day. He got awful close there- equivocating about how "both sides" and all that.

Sorry no, Kyle is not a politically radicalized nutjob. The people he shot were. Which is why he was rightfully acquitted.

"He shouldn't have been there!" (neither should the rioters have been and Kyle cared about that community)
"He wasn't old enough to have that gun!" (yes he was, charge was dropped)
"He crossed state lines with a gun!" (no he didn't, and that's not illegal anyway)
"He's a white supremacist!" (This is code for: he's white and I don't like him)

[Trexller]

Hobart might find it within himself to condemn the rioters some day. He got awful close there- equivocating about how "both sides" and all that.

Sorry no, Kyle is not a politically radicalized nutjob. The people he shot were. Which is why he was rightfully acquitted.

"He shouldn't have been there!" (neither should the rioters have been and Kyle cared about that community)
"He wasn't old enough to have that gun!" (yes he was, charge was dropped)
"He crossed state lines with a gun!" (no he didn't, and that's not illegal anyway)
"He's a white supremacist!" (This is code for: he's white and I don't like him)

why did they lock the thread right after the verdict? its not like we can <Riot> online

[Toxigen]

Hobart might find it within himself to condemn the rioters some day. He got awful close there- equivocating about how "both sides" and all that.

Sorry no, Kyle is not a politically radicalized nutjob. The people he shot were. Which is why he was rightfully acquitted.

"He shouldn't have been there!" (neither should the rioters have been and Kyle cared about that community)
"He wasn't old enough to have that gun!" (yes he was, charge was dropped)
"He crossed state lines with a gun!" (no he didn't, and that's not illegal anyway)
"He's a white supremacist!" (This is code for: he's white and I don't like him)

well said

https://i.imgur.com/QY8KYTb.png

[Knowledge]

They asked OJ if he'd be interested in a career in law enforcement.

OJ said 'sure, I'll take a stab at it.'

[robayon]

Have you ever watched Steven Seagal: Lawman

Maybe Kyle can make something of a similar... caliber :cool:

[Whale biologist]

Hobart might find it within himself to condemn the rioters some day. He got awful close there- equivocating about how "both sides" and all that.

Sorry no, Kyle is not a politically radicalized nutjob. The people he shot were. Which is why he was rightfully acquitted.

"He shouldn't have been there!" (neither should the rioters have been and Kyle cared about that community)
"He wasn't old enough to have that gun!" (yes he was, charge was dropped)
"He crossed state lines with a gun!" (no he didn't, and that's not illegal anyway)
"He's a white supremacist!" (This is code for: he's white and I don't like him)

2nd one is not the ruling at all. 3rd is questionable advice to give your elf-friends, not that Kyle did it anyway.

(Does reciprocity make me wrong?)

[unsunghero]

..

[Jibartik]

Graphiti cleanup during the next riots.

https://i.imgur.com/DB60ukG.png

[unsunghero]

..

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/ZwrKkOj.png

edit: wow, unsung ole quick draw mcgraw over there

[Toxigen]

https://i.imgur.com/z8SRO4U.png

[Nexii]

Thankfully the legal system doesn't consider criminal history as a type of evidence.

[unsunghero]

Thankfully the legal system doesn't consider criminal history as a type of evidence.

Ya, but it does matter when determining sentencing for a particular crime, which is why it is difficult/unfair to compare sentence lengths across ethnicities, since they may have different criminal histories. In order to compare sentencing of x ethnicity vs y ethnicity, you need to use 2 people with identical criminal histories committing an identical crime

[Smoofers]

Thankfully the legal system doesn't consider criminal history as a type of evidence.

Thank god it DOES consider criminal history when determining motive

[Whale biologist]

Biden reacts to Rittenhouse verdict: 'The jury system works, and we have to abide by it' (https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/politics/joe-biden-kyle-rittenhouse-verdict/index.html?utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2021-11-19T19%3A56%3A39)

"I believe that what unites us is far greater than what divides us. I know that we're not going to heal our country's wounds overnight, but I remain steadfast in my commitment to do everything in my power to ensure that every American is treated equally, with fairness and dignity, under the law," the statement reads.

Biden good.

[Nexii]

Ya, but it does matter when determining sentencing for a particular crime, which is why it is difficult/unfair to compare sentence lengths across ethnicities, since they may have different criminal histories. In order to compare sentencing of x ethnicity vs y ethnicity, you need to use 2 people with identical criminal histories committing an identical crime

As it should.

[Convict]

woke up saw the news, had a good chuckle at the expense of all the libs who were blinded by their political bias and doubted for even a second that Kyle would be found not guilty.

[Ooloo]

Thankfully the legal system doesn't consider criminal history as a type of evidence.

People are not bringing up their criminal histories to suggest they deserved to be killed, it is to highlight the absurd crocodile tears being shed for these "victims", in a transparent, politically-motivated way. Past behavior also informs how present information is interpreted, especially in a jury trial. It's perfectly relevant.

If only Rosenbaum hadn't attacked and threatened to murder Kyle, he might have lived to go on and rape five more kids. Like, seriously how is ANYONE on the wrong side of this still??

[unsunghero]

People are not bringing up their criminal histories to suggest they deserved to be killed, it is to highlight the absurd crocodile tears being shed for these "victims", in a transparent, politically-motivated way. Past behavior also informs how present information is interpreted, especially in a jury trial. It's perfectly relevant.

If only Rosenbaum hadn't attacked and threatened to murder Kyle, he might have lived to go on and rape five more kids. Like, seriously how is ANYONE on the wrong side of this still??

If anything though them all being felons with criminal histories, including jump kick man, should reinforce how “protests” look when it gets late at night and only the disreputables remain. It should also indicate what to expect to be doing when you go out yourself as a conservative or someone doing something contrary to what those people want and you have a gun. Meaning you should understand there is a very good chance you are going to be killing people, even if it’s legally

[unsunghero]

..

[Ooloo]

Rittenhouse's own past behavior and statements were specifically disincluded by the judge. The cat is onto something here.

Yes they were, because Kyle's past behavior was not pertinent given the facts of the case. His assailants' was.

I honestly think people rooting against kyle in this just fundamentally don't believe in self defense, because this is a textbook example of it by every conceivable metric. If this wasn't self defense, what IS? It always seems to be people who know nothing about gun laws who think you aren't allowed to shoot somebody, ever, unless they also have a gun.

[robayon]

I was rooting against Kyle simply because he was conservative, but oh well, c'est la vie

[Elizondo]

Biden reacts to Rittenhouse verdict: 'The jury system works, and we have to abide by it' (https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/politics/joe-biden-kyle-rittenhouse-verdict/index.html?utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_content=2021-11-19T19%3A56%3A39)



Biden good.

Dude read his statement

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/11/19/statement-by-president-biden/

While the verdict in Kenosha will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included,

not to mention he lied about the kid callin him a white supreme pizza

brandon is scum

[Nexii]

Yea not a good look for the executive to be weighing on the judiciary. Sign of the times, a slow descent into authoritarianism

[Gravydoo II]

the new george zimmerman. give it a year, he'll go back to prison. Criminals always do.

[Whale biologist]

Yes they were, because Kyle's past behavior was not pertinent given the facts of the case. His assailants' was.

I honestly think people rooting against kyle in this just fundamentally don't believe in self defense, because this is a textbook example of it by every conceivable metric. If this wasn't self defense, what IS? It always seems to be people who know nothing about gun laws who think you aren't allowed to shoot somebody, ever, unless they also have a gun.

I think they'd be given the same deference in their own trials, were they around. Maybe Grosskreutz will be.

But it's a strange thing to conduct cadaver synod(s) within the trial of a living man. Laertes laughs.

[Homesteaded]

What a bad time to be married to Liberal ideas. They are crumbling and failing at record speed. Yet here we see the worst of the worst clinging to them as if they are still good ideas. Your crap ideas are being exposed, time to grow up and get a job.

[Ooloo]

I was rooting against Kyle simply because he was conservative, but oh well, c'est la vie

Haha this is legit funny. I award you points.

[Whale biologist]

"He's not on trial here! The dead bodies he created are on trial!"

-Lawyer for the defense

[unsunghero]

What is interesting is that Rosenbaum was a child molester, who recently was committed to a psychiatric hold for suicidality, then was yelling at people to shoot him

Part of me wonders if the man did grow a conscience, regret what he had done to those kids, and felt he deserved to die over it

[robayon]

I have a job, how else could I post all day? Now, if I actually do work at it, that's a totally different question

[Jibartik]

I wonder if people actualy feel less safe because of this verdict? Like are you thinking this is just another example of the thumb the system has you under?

[Jibartik]

I have a job, how else could I post all day? Now, if I actually do work at it, that's a totally different question

god bless the new age economy

[Ooloo]

What is interesting is that Rosenbaum was a child molester, who recently was committed to a psychiatric hold for suicidality, then was yelling at people to shoot him

Part of me wonders if the man did grow a conscience, regret what he had done to those kids, and felt he deserved to die over it

Guilt-addled suicidal people usually don't exhibit bravado or bluster, but honestly I thought the same thing.

Rosenbaum seemed legitimately crazy though, I'm not convinced he even knew what year it currently is, let alone what BLM is. Still, he illegally attacked kyle and got shot. So did the other two dudes, but I'm less sympathetic to them. They knew exactly what they were doing.

[Grumph]

Multiple victims aged 9 to 11

Multiple victims aged 9 to 11

Multiple victims aged 9 to 11

Multiple victims aged 9 to 11

Multiple victims aged 9 to 11

Multiple victims aged 9 to 11


… at least Bill Clinton probably only messed with girls aged 13+ on Epstein island before speaking at the DNC in 2020.

[Castle2.0]

.

[Jibartik]

man this sounds like the crew of the pinta the nina and the santa maria, these democrats will stop at nothing to rape and pillage every land in existence eh?

God bless the conservatives who stay at home and worship god in silence.

[bubur]

so does this mean we get to charge the vicious attackers for attempted homicide now?

the alive one that is

[unsunghero]

so does this mean we get to charge the vicious attackers for attempted homicide now?

the alive one that is

[wuanahto]

I am existing in a current event and I feel hype and now I want more.

Is there another trial coming up for anyone or anything else?

[bubur]

I am existing in a current event and I feel hype and now I want more.

Is there another trial coming up for anyone or anything else?

maxwell trial has begun jury selection

[wuanahto]

maxwell trial has begun jury selection

I dont know what that is but I want blood and tons of posts surrounded by all types of communities across all forms of internet services.

[bubur]

cool and normal

u mite just get it

[Whale biologist]

maxwell trial has begun jury selection

We should get both the Charlottesville(Nazis) civil verdict (https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-civil-trial-jury-deliberation/index.html) and the Ahmaud Arbery criminal verdict (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/defense-says-ruling-by-judge-ahmaud-arbery-trial-over-citizens-arrest-law-guts-their-case/KI73ZTIXI5DELKFTRHWCBZX3VI/) before that really starts up.

[hobart]

Hobart might find it within himself to condemn the rioters some day.

Um, I see the disconnect here. What part of "pieces of shit" did you think was an endorsement?

Normal people don't want miscreants and looters in the streets -and- also don't want radicalized ideologues trying to set up scenarios where they're justified killing said miscreants.

But you'll rationalize anything because if the looters are the bad guys, your fellow Trumptard who shot them must be a good guy.

[bubur]

We should get both the Charlottesville(Nazis) civil verdict (https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/19/us/charlottesville-unite-the-right-civil-trial-jury-deliberation/index.html) and the Ahmaud Arbery criminal verdict (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/defense-says-ruling-by-judge-ahmaud-arbery-trial-over-citizens-arrest-law-guts-their-case/KI73ZTIXI5DELKFTRHWCBZX3VI/) before that really starts up.

ya im hopeful these cases go the right way. but pretty much unrelated: i also hope ghislaine maxwell gets what she deserves. my opinion of that is public death sentence, but we'll see what the trial says ya know.. depends a lot on the discovery of the case when it comes down to it

[Castle2.0]

your fellow Trumptard who shot them must be a good guy.He was only 17, so legally he couldn't even vote R. As the law states, under 17 and over 117 votes are exclusively D.

[Convict]

Um, I see the disconnect here. What part of "pieces of shit" did you think was an endorsement?

Normal people don't want miscreants and looters in the streets -and- also don't want radicalized ideologues trying to set up scenarios where they're justified killing said miscreants.

But you'll rationalize anything because if the looters are the bad guys, your fellow Trumptard who shot them must be a good guy.

Yeah Im sure the 17 year old kid was a radicalized idealogue "trumptard" who purposefully set up a scenario where people rushed after him trying to harm and/or kill him just so he could shoot them. That narrative sounds totally grounded in reality. What a poor misguided trumptard he is.

[bubur]

he was 17, only i can tell you what a 17 year feels
fucker

[bubur]

kid a amnesiac

[Danth]

Normal people don't want miscreants and looters in the streets

Nobody wants it, but when they appear, what do you do? Do you hide behind your bed and hope the bad guys hurt somebody else instead of you? In regular living I've only ever drawn a pistol on someone once, but the one time I did I was very much prepared to shoot the folks I drew on had they taken aggressive action. You might call me a criminal, I might call you a coward, doesn't seem like there's much middle ground there. I don't believe in granting the government a monopoly on violence.

Danth

[bubur]

i want it

i want them to throw the biggest violent business destroying tantrum since 2020. and i want to see it streamed

what organization do i have to donate to

[Wharfrat]

https://democrats.org/

[Ooloo]

i want it

i want them to throw the biggest violent business destroying tantrum since 2020. and i want to see it streamed

what organization do i have to donate to

You sound like a communist no offense. Can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs right comrade? Unfortunately that omelette never seems to materialize

[Trexller]

i crack eggs on communists

[bubur]

You sound like a communist no offense. Can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs right comrade? Unfortunately that omelette never seems to materialize

none taken, cuz i dont know what ur talkin about cheers

if anyone finds the riot streams hit me up

[Knowledge]

Bring on in martial law. Is martial law worse than marital law?

[Jibartik]

https://twitter.com/NDpendentPDX/status/1461934017276628996?s=20

[Whale biologist]

Bring on in martial law. Is martial law worse than marital law?

One is a despot, the other is a politician.

[Patriam1066]

26 year old skateboarder deserved to die huh? Wow, you guys need to read your Bible more closely. That or become literate

[Patriam1066]

Rittenhouse getting off is a horrible precedent. Do not take lives lightly just because you’ve been brainwashed into thinking it’s patriotic

[Jibartik]

Basically in america if someone has a gun its their right and you dont attack them if you dont like it you can go move to the caliphate.

https://i.imgur.com/hhrXgdz.png

[Knowledge]

God Almighty said not to kill. Kyle will so do a lifetime of time, just not behind physical bars. His are mental. Haunted dreams. For life.

[wuanahto]

Rittenhouse getting off is a horrible precedent. Do not take lives lightly just because you’ve been brainwashed into thinking it’s patriotic

huehuehue

[wuanahto]

God Almighty said not to kill.

I think he said no murder, self defense is ok.

Which God btw?

[Elizondo]

Rittenhouse getting off is a horrible precedent. Do not take lives lightly just because you’ve been brainwashed into thinking it’s patriotic

Hero Kyle verdict rigged like 2020 election?

[wuanahto]

That one kid with the MAGA hat from 2016 got like 250m in defamation lawsuits and is probably set for life even after taxes. How much do you think Kyle is ganna get?

[Whale biologist]

That one kid with the MAGA hat from 2016 got like 250m in defamation lawsuits and is probably set for life even after taxes. How much do you think Kyle is ganna get?

He sought that much, doesn't mean he got it.

[wuanahto]

He sought that much, doesn't mean he got it.

He sought more than that, but settled for 250m

[Whale biologist]

He sought more than that, but settled for 250m

If you believe this kid got anything more than a nuisance fee settlement, you’re dreaming (https://lawandcrime.com/media/some-lawyers-think-covington-catholics-nick-sandmann-walked-away-from-media-lawsuits-with-peanuts/)

[wuanahto]

“If you believe this kid got anything more than a nuisance fee settlement, you’re dreaming (https://lawandcrime.com/media/some-lawyers-think-covington-catholics-nick-sandmann-walked-away-from-media-lawsuits-with-peanuts/")

evidence is only accepted when its convenient for the person making the claim

[Whale biologist]

evidence is only accepted when its convenient for the person making the claim

Ok i'll try again

If you believe this kid got anything more than a nuisance fee settlement, you’re dreaming (https://i.imgur.com/lbOGJHp.jpg)

[wuanahto]

Ok i'll try again

If you believe this kid got anything more than a nuisance fee settlement, you’re dreaming (https://i.imgur.com/lbOGJHp.jpg)

You can try as many times as you want but we live in a post 2007 world and because i have a smartphone i can take all my own opinions as facts and if you disagree hard enough i can sue you in california or europe.

Strike 2, make me rich with strike 3.

[Whale biologist]

You can try as many times as you want but we live in a post 2007 world and because i have a smartphone i can take all my own opinions as facts and if you disagree hard enough i can sue you in california or europe.

Strike 2, make me rich with strike 3.

Last chance bud (https://i.imgur.com/u9XhxLG.jpg?1)

[wuanahto]

Last chance bud (https://i.imgur.com/u9XhxLG.jpg?1)

Dolphin porn from a whale biologist.

[Xer0]

In death, their crimes have no name.

Their names, are Robert Paulson.

most overrated movie ever.

[Homesteaded]

The Left stacking up L's, bold strategy.

[Gravydoo II]

Rittenhouse getting off is a horrible precedent. Do not take lives lightly just because you’ve been brainwashed into thinking it’s patriotic

Its a good precedent. Now, I can show up in your town armed to the teeth to "protect" property I dont own. I can come from out of state and loiter, just hang around your local area.

Why dont I start a group of people who do this? We'll go from town to town, state to state, and just point guns at people. If they get offended and try to stop us, its self defense if I kill anyone who touches me.

The provocation wasnt me showing up with a gun to the movies. It was you touching my guns that made ME afraid for my life.

Its happened. Pussies now rule the USA. They can show up with guns, point them at you, and if you defend yourself, you deserve to die. According to this talk here. Nice work america. You just fucked up.

[unsunghero]

Dolphin porn from a whale biologist.

Boobs are way too big for me there. I like boobs, just not giant boobs

And if Nick got peanuts, why the NDA? I don't know legal proceedings, but it sounds like an NDA is something the defendant would set up, not the prosecuting person. Giving Nick peanuts is a clear victory for CNN, and if that was the case, why have an NDA then? Why not let the world see just how little he got and show off the victory?

That's my .02

Also, the fact that defamation suits are so hard to "win" is part of the problem with this country. News agencies and individual citizens can just spread lies or file false complaints with complete impunity. I mentioned before that my uncle who is a real estate appraiser nearly lost his entire livelihood when a black family who was asking $200,000 more on their home didn't get an appraisal from him to match that, then filed a complaint claiming my uncle, a DEMOCRAT, was a racist. Just because he didn't lie and say it was worth $200,000 more for NO REASON. That is so completely fucked that a protected class can just go around literally ruining people's lives with fake complaints because they're mad they didn't get their way

[Whale biologist]

Boobs are way too big for me there. I like boobs, just not giant boobs

And if Nick got peanuts, why the NDA? I don't know legal proceedings, but it sounds like an NDA is something the defendant would set up, not the prosecuting person. Giving Nick peanuts is a clear victory for CNN, and if that was the case, why have an NDA then? Why not let the world see just how little he got and show off the victory?

That's my .02


That would be a lot of peanuts if people knew they could litigation troll CNN to get $X payout.

[unsunghero]

That would be a lot of peanuts if people knew they could litigation troll CNN to get $X payout.

Yeah but where’s the checks and balances?

Why not just claim Kyle was a pedophile too? Call him a woman beater. Call him a serial killer. Say he worshipped Satan?

I mean why not? CNN’s viewers would believe it, and there’s no consequence for it. I’m not calling for their de-platforming like when Alex Jones spread lies, but there should be a legal consequence for outright lies, especially about a non-public-figure. Otherwise there’s literally nothing to keep news agencies in check

Edit: it’s weird. It’s not legal to lie about a product. For example, I can’t claim my supplement cures cancer, I’ll get sued into the ground. But a company can lie about a person, no harm no foul

[Whale biologist]

Yeah but where’s the checks and balances?

Why not just claim Kyle was a pedophile too? Call him a woman beater. Call him a serial killer. Say he worshipped Satan?

I mean why not? CNN’s viewers would believe it, and there’s no consequence for it. I’m not calling for their de-platforming like when Alex Jones spread lies, but there should be a legal consequence for outright lies, especially about a non-public-figure. Otherwise there’s literally nothing to keep news agencies in check

Edit: it’s weird. It’s not legal to lie about a product. For example, I can’t claim my supplement cures cancer, I’ll get sued into the ground. But a company can lie about a person, no harm no foul

I think if you let the state(or other organ) define lying as a carveout to the free speech right, then you wouldn't really have free speech anymore.

[Ooloo]

I think if you let the state(or other organ) define lying as a carveout to the free speech right, then you wouldn't really have free speech anymore.

This is the right's beef with the censorious faction of the left, who just exchange the word lying for the word "misinformation". They invoke their mantra "Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" without ever defining what a "consequence" entails. Like no actually, free speech is supposed to mean exactly that.

You can play word games all the way to being North Korea. Can you criticize the Dear Leader? Well, of course you can! Therefor, North Korea has freedom of speech! But remember, that doesn't mean freedom from "consequence"!

[Jibartik]

I know everything about stypid kyle rittenhouse and I never once seeked any information whatosever.

I know what his mom looks like, what his sister
what he majored in in higshcool, what he wanted to be when he grew up
what his dad does for a living, his marital status, how kyle felt about it
where his dad lives where kyle lives where kyle worked

its fucking insane

I know jack shit about the guy who drove through a parade of people.

[robayon]

Edit: it’s weird. It’s not legal to lie about a product. For example, I can’t claim my supplement cures cancer, I’ll get sued into the ground. But a company can lie about a person, no harm no foulDamn dude it's almost like this whole game is rigged against the little guy, and to protect companies and the wealthy people who control them, but surely a few little tweaks and jerks to the levers of power will fix these problems

[Jibartik]

Damn dude it's almost like this whole game is rigged against the little guy, and to protect companies and the wealthy people who control them, but surely a few little tweaks and jerks to the levers of power will fix these problems

only way to stop it is to build a wall and fix ourselves.

cant fix the world.

[Whale biologist]

This is the right's beef with the censorious faction of the left, who just exchange the word lying for the word "misinformation". They invoke their mantra "Free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence" without ever defining what a "consequence" entails. Like no actually, free speech is supposed to mean exactly that.

You can play word games all the way to being North Korea. Can you criticize the Dear Leader? Well, of course you can! Therefor, North Korea has freedom of speech! But remember, that doesn't mean freedom from "consequence"!

Rights protect you from being judged criminal by the state(and jailed), not from civil liability. You need to be a pharmaceutical company for that! :p

[unsunghero]

I think if you let the state(or other organ) define lying as a carveout to the free speech right, then you wouldn't really have free speech anymore.

Well not the state. It's supposed to be the justice system. That's why slander/defamation lawsuits exist, it's just that they seem relatively impotent in their application

Hence giving companies free reign to profit (in CNN's case, viewership is profit when advertising) from lies about a non-public-figure, but not a product. I guess it's justified in that a product harms many people, while lying about a single person only harms that person and people that care about that person

[Whale biologist]

Well not the state. It's supposed to be the justice system.

Huh? Criminal courts are the state. What?

[unsunghero]

Huh? Criminal courts are the state. What?

Is it civil or criminal though?

edit: looked it up, appears to be civil "Although libel or defamation is now primarily a civil claim, it once was primarily a criminal offense, prosecuted by the government and punishable by imprisonment or a fine"

[unsunghero]

Told ya’ll that he better switch to online school if he doesn’t want drinks poured on him or worse

I called it

“Arizona university students demand administration to 'withdraw' Kyle Rittenhouse: 'killer off our campus”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-university-students-demand-administration-031620144.html

From the article: "Our campus is already unsafe as is, and we would like to abate this danger as much as possible."

— nonsense, you are in a gun free zone. You are perfectly safe

[Jibartik]

Wow they even allow date rape at Arizona state.

[Ooloo]

College kids are the softest bitches ever now. It's sad.

Also apparently incapable of parsing clear information if they still think he's a "killer" after that trial. Morons.

[Homesteaded]

Bold prediction that a woke institute would house woke disciples. Such a genius.

[unsunghero]

Bold prediction that a woke institute would house woke disciples. Such a genius.

It even said in the article students claimed he's bringing his "white supremacy" with him

Such woke

[Patriam1066]

It’s shocking that people don’t want a killer on a college campus

Breaking news

[Patriam1066]

Exodus 20:13 KJV

don’t give me any new age translation

[Homesteaded]

Exodus 20:13 KJV

don’t give me any new age translation

Alma 48 14

[Jibartik]

First, we know that not all killing in wartime is a sin because there have been times when God Himself commanded battles to be fought. God told the ancient Israelites to possess the Promised Land; in fact, just before the conquest, the Lord appeared to Joshua as “commander of the army of the Lord”—a man of war (Joshua 5:14). God laid out the battle plans for the fight against Ai (Joshua 8:1–2). God told King Saul to “go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them” (1 Samuel 15:3). King David defeated the Philistines by following God’s strategy concerning the battle (2 Samuel 5:23–25). God never tells people to sin, so the Israelites who followed God’s commands to wage war were not sinning. Killing in war cannot be equated with murder.

Bolded because this is the traditional takeaway.

Notice that in all those scenarios, god appears and tells them to kill, So how about instead of war allowing for murder, how about god does 'when he tells someone to'?

A lot of folks out there think that there are excuses that someone has to kill, self defense or something.

The answer is actually, no.

You are to die rather than defend yourself.

If everyone did, then nobody would ever kill anyone!

However because there is sin, someone will always try to kill us. Right?

Well, god says, let them, and I will save you.

But you watch the guy next to you let them, and god does not save him.

So you ask god what's up and he says, a lot of you have to let them... then I'll believe you.

And... well so you and everyone has to keep dying. The holocausts. Everyone has to be like Daniel.

And one day.. after the LAST person is left to be burnt alive. Maybe then god will save them, we'll have to find out, so light him up.

(peace is finally brought to earth, the animals rejoice)

All thanks to a guy who burnt the world alive and a world who let him because they believed god told him to.

But really he was just a schitzo.

[Gravydoo II]

turn the other cheek

but then they say "jesus came with the sword!"

lol, its all about how you're feeling that day, you can find a verse to justify it.

If jesus had a sword it was a katana like sephiroth from FFVII and he swung it like afro samurai.

[robayon]

Alma 48 14I feel like a weight has been lifted

[Jibartik]

i wonder if god is just a giant plant like entity that both is the universe and became conscious enough to create little life's out of curiosity.