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IzHaN80
11-01-2021, 08:15 PM
So i been reading many guides and suggestions, i just did hit level 10 @ FoB i am wondering if i should continue the natural progression through Kurn's cause everything is undead, plus next to main city for spells etc or should i move in a place like The Warrens because i would like to have a 2nd place where to bank items, etc?

Balimon
11-01-2021, 09:57 PM
I would work on getting level twelve for new spells and bind affinity before you leave. Field of Bone and Kurns has plenty of stuff to get you there :)

IzHaN80
11-01-2021, 10:31 PM
I would work on getting level twelve for new spells and bind affinity before you leave. Field of Bone and Kurns has plenty of stuff to get you there :)

So then, are you implying is recommended i go to Warrens after i ding 12?

greenspectre
11-01-2021, 11:37 PM
Honestly there's no reason to leave Kurn's until 24+. One of the best exp mods in the game and close to home, which will be a rarity for you moving forward. Maybe you need to head out to get some spells that can't be found in Cab once in a while, but other than that Kurn's is perfect.

The only upside I see to Warrens is working Heretics faction so you can have a home away from Cabilis. But you lose your undead effectiveness there, so *shrug*

Philistine
11-02-2021, 02:11 AM
I agree that it's worth hanging around Kunark for a while, I'd say at least until you can go to unrest and the Karanas. I'd load up on spells before you leave though, to the extent possible. Necro gets awesome at 34 if you hang in there!

starkind
11-02-2021, 01:23 PM
stay in kurns till 18 or even 20, outside of kurns is good upto 20+ as well

LOIO is good till 30.

FM 30-40.

DL 40-50+ the worlds your oyster.

Avoid OT as its all bards druids and wizards being gross.

It's annoying to farm in places permacamped for money, good moeny to be had in WW at 18+ and if your clever more and graknist, and u can also get that ring in LOIO

I feel like the first really good dungeon in kunark is droga and as a necro probably doable at 34+

there are a lot of fun little quiet spots to hunt all over if you dont mind dodging red mobs at 20+

TD is great too. FV is pretty great at 40+ for elves at least again a lot of druids and wizards and bards and why not just do DL instead.

I would never leave kunark because you don't need gear until your 60 and you want to do solo challenges. Plus the lake is really peaceful.

u can also do iksar bandits/parahaih exiles all throughout and around cabilis for belts/snout rings/face masks and make lots of plat like you would off of gypsies or bandits in WK and stuff

BW is quite good at 50+ and so is EJ at 40+ and com (you will get groups surely) and in trakanons teeth if you feel like learning the spawns there are so many undead to charm, some are stupidly OP and if you FD u will never die.

infact between lifetaps, lich, and FD, u could literally just afk level wandering completely randomly and drunkenly through all of these areas in the most lazy fashion not even bothering, maybe throwing a dot and fear on a mob for giggles every once in awhile necros are just stupidly op lol.

Toxigen
11-02-2021, 03:08 PM
Stay in Kurns for as long as possible.

Do whatever you need to get to 34 where you get a ton of good spells. Then its time to head to Kaesora and cut your teeth doing some charming undead. You will be here until 40+ and have a big piece of your Howling Stones key which you will use from 55-60.

You're welcome.

Tunabros
11-02-2021, 03:18 PM
imagine not being human necromancer

Vermineux
11-03-2021, 06:01 AM
Kurn's till 20. Then go to OOT and farm Gargoyles till 24-26 or so, you'll make tons of cash. After that look into the "levelling up while making money" guide on the WIKI. If you want to group, that's a different matter.

IzHaN80
11-03-2021, 01:26 PM
Well, thanks for all your suggestions, the XP mod is amazing. I did reach 18 from 12 since the moment i did post in the forums until right now. I'll keep you posted.

jadier
11-03-2021, 04:28 PM
Kurns is fun. The skeletons don’t social, so you can fear kite there as long as you keep your pet on a short leash. Can move into the basement until 20. It’s a good place to practice your very first charm killing, too. Won’t be super efficient, but still fun.

WW giant fort can take you from 22-28 easily and profitably.

At 28, the brutes up by Dalnir are where it’s at. Best money you’re going to find for awhile and super easy. They don’t assist or even aggro, despite what the /con message says, and it’s close to a zone line if things get dire. Their gem drop rate is amazing.

At 33/34ish the brutes will green out enough that you’ll probably want a new place. Root rotting in Nurga is fun at this level. Charm killing in the fields in front of the sarnak fort or fear kiting at the goblin fort in LOIO are also good. So’s the FM giant fort. You can also venture far afield and play in SolA or SK or Splitpaw until 38ish.

Around 38, you’re going to want to buy a Circlet of Shadow. This will change the game for you in a big way. It should be your first big purchase (jboots after). I know, all that +INT/+HP gear looks so attractive. Resist! Caster itemization is terrible in p99 EQ. No amount of normal gear will impact your gameplay even 1/10th as much as a CoS alone, and jboots are just gravy on top.

At 38 with a CoS, big options open up. I recommend reverse charming in Kaesora. Charm a mob, send it at a big group, root all members of that group, then break charm right before your pet dies. Murder your pet with a single spell, then charm one of the rooted undead mobs in the mass and repeat. Xp will fly. The second floor of ToFS is another (albeit riskier) possibility at this level, but Kaesora is fantastic. You’ll actually get a few upgrades, and the vendor trash is fantastic. Do library until 40ish then towers/church until 44.

At 44 you can learn underwater fighting at the bloodgills in LOIO of practice charming more in LGuk. Both are wonderful. Ignore ZEMs when you’re charm killing too. You kill so fast and so constantly that low-zem undead like LGuk is going to be better than almost any other xp in the game (bloodgills and oasis specters are only things that really edge it out).

At 51 you get Splurt. Splurt + Root means that the world is your oyster. You can basically kill any mob you can stick spells to so long as it has any **one** of the three following properties (1) vulnerable to fear, (2) doesn’t summon, (3) is undead. There are exceptions, but not many. Explore the world until you get 54, then go to Howling Stones.

Howling Stones basement will take you to 60. If you get bored, mix in KC or CoM. Both are better money than HS and their xp is good, but nothing compares to HS. Fear-kiting Skyshrine wyverns in your mid-late-50’s is also a profitable way to take a break from HS and get some good upgrades for yourself.

Or, ignore all of this! EQ is a game of adventure and exploration. Go where you want! If it isn’t the fastest xp or then best money but IS fun for you, then you’re in the right spot. Take chances!

jadier
11-03-2021, 05:02 PM
Incidentally: going from 12-22ish in Kurns will net you far more bone chips then you’ll need to hit 60. Save them all!

starkind
11-04-2021, 02:08 PM
Kurns is fun. The skeletons don’t social, so you can fear kite there as long as you keep your pet on a short leash. Can move into the basement until 20. It’s a good place to practice your very first charm killing, too. Won’t be super efficient, but still fun.

WW giant fort can take you from 22-28 easily and profitably.

At 28, the brutes up by Dalnir are where it’s at. Best money you’re going to find for awhile and super easy. They don’t assist or even aggro, despite what the /con message says, and it’s close to a zone line if things get dire. Their gem drop rate is amazing.

At 33/34ish the brutes will green out enough that you’ll probably want a new place. Root rotting in Nurga is fun at this level. Charm killing in the fields in front of the sarnak fort or fear kiting at the goblin fort in LOIO are also good. So’s the FM giant fort. You can also venture far afield and play in SolA or SK or Splitpaw until 38ish.

Around 38, you’re going to want to buy a Circlet of Shadow. This will change the game for you in a big way. It should be your first big purchase (jboots after). I know, all that +INT/+HP gear looks so attractive. Resist! Caster itemization is terrible in p99 EQ. No amount of normal gear will impact your gameplay even 1/10th as much as a CoS alone, and jboots are just gravy on top.

At 38 with a CoS, big options open up. I recommend reverse charming in Kaesora. Charm a mob, send it at a big group, root all members of that group, then break charm right before your pet dies. Murder your pet with a single spell, then charm one of the rooted undead mobs in the mass and repeat. Xp will fly. The second floor of ToFS is another (albeit riskier) possibility at this level, but Kaesora is fantastic. You’ll actually get a few upgrades, and the vendor trash is fantastic. Do library until 40ish then towers/church until 44.

At 44 you can learn underwater fighting at the bloodgills in LOIO of practice charming more in LGuk. Both are wonderful. Ignore ZEMs when you’re charm killing too. You kill so fast and so constantly that low-zem undead like LGuk is going to be better than almost any other xp in the game (bloodgills and oasis specters are only things that really edge it out).

At 51 you get Splurt. Splurt + Root means that the world is your oyster. You can basically kill any mob you can stick spells to so long as it has any **one** of the three following properties (1) vulnerable to fear, (2) doesn’t summon, (3) is undead. There are exceptions, but not many. Explore the world until you get 54, then go to Howling Stones.

Howling Stones basement will take you to 60. If you get bored, mix in KC or CoM. Both are better money than HS and their xp is good, but nothing compares to HS. Fear-kiting Skyshrine wyverns in your mid-late-50’s is also a profitable way to take a break from HS and get some good upgrades for yourself.

Or, ignore all of this! EQ is a game of adventure and exploration. Go where you want! If it isn’t the fastest xp or then best money but IS fun for you, then you’re in the right spot. Take chances!

Incidentally: going from 12-22ish in Kurns will net you far more bone chips then you’ll need to hit 60. Save them all!

pretty good write up!

Gustoo
11-04-2021, 03:28 PM
If u want ez mode make sure not to get bad burynai faction so you can kill skeletons in peace in kurns

But ya exploring dangerously to find killable mobs is really fun.

NegaStoat
11-05-2021, 01:39 AM
My personal favorite route for 1-49 involved outdoor camps with easy, reliable spawns that gave steady exp with a Beta Neutral vendor nearby to offload steady cash.

lvl 1-8 Whatever noob zone you start in.
lvl 8-11 Butcherblock skeleton spawns, 5 at Druid ring, 2 more by yellow tower. Druid vendor.
lvl 11-16 Butcherblock 4 spawn bandit camp w/ nearby 3 spawn Orcs at a green tower. Use druid vendor at the rings.
lvl 16-20 Iksar marauder / bandits at 4 spawn ruin in Lake of Ill omen.
lvl 20-24 Timorous Deep wood elf scout / ranger at their shore outpost. Wood Elf vendor is Beta Neutral in his hut.
lvl 24-26 Qeynos Hills brother & sister camp. Can bind near West Karana wall buildings by zone entrance and sell in the PM game hours to a Beta Neutral vendor behind a house.
lvl 27-35 Ocean of Tears sister isle. I had a 2nd char parked close to the dwarf vendors, and would Invis up / ground twink bags in the water for the other char to pick up and sell. If camp is taken, blow up the halberd sisters. I'm after levels 1st, then money 2nd.
lvl 35-42 West Karana guard tower with a 2 spawn. Bind near wall buildings, gate to sell at PM hours to beta neutral vendor.
lvl 42-49 Butcherblock dorfs. W/ max swimming (or DMF at 44) you can nuke the 2 spawns on the shore that druids don't want and rotate in the paladin dwarf on the shore a bit past the wall every 6 min when you have mana. Bind at druid ring, sell to vendor.

lvl 49-52 Kelethin guards, or optionally Everfrost guards if the merchants in Kelethin are still bugged to join in to help the guards on the platforms. A pretty retarded bug if it's still present.

Leveling in dungeons for exp is the best way but wtf, I was lazy and just felt like watching shows while exp'ing.

PatChapp
11-05-2021, 08:11 AM
My personal favorite route for 1-49 involved outdoor camps with easy, reliable spawns that gave steady exp with a Beta Neutral vendor nearby to offload steady cash.

lvl 1-8 Whatever noob zone you start in.
lvl 8-11 Butcherblock skeleton spawns, 5 at Druid ring, 2 more by yellow tower. Druid vendor.
lvl 11-16 Butcherblock 4 spawn bandit camp w/ nearby 3 spawn Orcs at a green tower. Use druid vendor at the rings.
lvl 16-20 Iksar marauder / bandits at 4 spawn ruin in Lake of Ill omen.
lvl 20-24 Timorous Deep wood elf scout / ranger at their shore outpost. Wood Elf vendor is Beta Neutral in his hut.
lvl 24-26 Qeynos Hills brother & sister camp. Can bind near West Karana wall buildings by zone entrance and sell in the PM game hours to a Beta Neutral vendor behind a house.
lvl 27-35 Ocean of Tears sister isle. I had a 2nd char parked close to the dwarf vendors, and would Invis up / ground twink bags in the water for the other char to pick up and sell. If camp is taken, blow up the halberd sisters. I'm after levels 1st, then money 2nd.
lvl 35-42 West Karana guard tower with a 2 spawn. Bind near wall buildings, gate to sell at PM hours to beta neutral vendor.
lvl 42-49 Butcherblock dorfs. W/ max swimming (or DMF at 44) you can nuke the 2 spawns on the shore that druids don't want and rotate in the paladin dwarf on the shore a bit past the wall every 6 min when you have mana. Bind at druid ring, sell to vendor.

lvl 49-52 Kelethin guards, or optionally Everfrost guards if the merchants in Kelethin are still bugged to join in to help the guards on the platforms. A pretty retarded bug if it's still present.

Leveling in dungeons for exp is the best way but wtf, I was lazy and just felt like watching shows while exp'ing.

Basically was my leveling path for my magician. I did 32-39 on ran walker and the ranger in there and made 8k though. Wasn't slow at all either.

Kraig4600
11-05-2021, 09:50 AM
Kurns to 24/25
NK Bard diet to 30/31
SK treants to 38/39
WC toll booth guards to 45
Spectres or Bloodgills to 51
Felwithe guards to 54
WL Tar goos to 57
WL Geonids to 60

Tethler
11-05-2021, 10:24 AM
Kurns is so good. The banked bags of bone chips I got from leveling my necro there lasted until like level 45.

Toxigen
11-05-2021, 10:47 AM
There is zero reason to skip Kaesora 34-42+ and get your feet wet charming. You can be done with the zone when the church (Xalgoz) area greens out. Get your HS key piece and maybe a fear staff to boot. I wouldn't recommend gung-ho solo Xalgoz right off the bat, but with enough time spent there you're bound to run into folks coming in looking to acquire a key. Just team up.

Bind outside for emergency gates + a short run over to Cab for selling / spells / restock.

Also recommend camping the VP key pieces while they still give XP after Kaesora. I forget which order from easiest to hardest (wiki it), but why not at least get the pieces while it gives xp? Even if you don't want to raid, if you have the full Jarsath and Obulus MQs to sell thats a big chunk of plat.

Gustoo
11-05-2021, 08:55 PM
I would basically recommend never leaving kunark and playing kunark as a separate game which it basically is.

when the fuck is the kunark iksar only pvp server coming out?

Tann
11-06-2021, 01:33 PM
Kurns basement 20-24 then:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282457

IzHaN80
11-12-2021, 01:35 PM
There is zero reason to skip Kaesora 34-42+ and get your feet wet charming. You can be done with the zone when the church (Xalgoz) area greens out. Get your HS key piece and maybe a fear staff to boot. I wouldn't recommend gung-ho solo Xalgoz right off the bat, but with enough time spent there you're bound to run into folks coming in looking to acquire a key. Just team up.

Bind outside for emergency gates + a short run over to Cab for selling / spells / restock.

Also recommend camping the VP key pieces while they still give XP after Kaesora. I forget which order from easiest to hardest (wiki it), but why not at least get the pieces while it gives xp? Even if you don't want to raid, if you have the full Jarsath and Obulus MQs to sell thats a big chunk of plat.

Went there at 35, the Dungeon itself is so confusing.... Died on my 2nd pull of mobs, can't really find the undead side, i found a spectral guardian, i did charm him, i made him fight a spider, charm breaks, FD gets cancel cause spider casts spell in the last second of my FD, 2 roots resists, 3 gate interrupts (i was against a wall)... I don't really know how good this place is, but sure i do hate that there is minimal space to kite and also it does really look so confusing and easy to get lost.

IzHaN80
11-12-2021, 01:37 PM
Kurns is fun. The skeletons don’t social, so you can fear kite there as long as you keep your pet on a short leash. Can move into the basement until 20. It’s a good place to practice your very first charm killing, too. Won’t be super efficient, but still fun.

WW giant fort can take you from 22-28 easily and profitably.

At 28, the brutes up by Dalnir are where it’s at. Best money you’re going to find for awhile and super easy. They don’t assist or even aggro, despite what the /con message says, and it’s close to a zone line if things get dire. Their gem drop rate is amazing.

At 33/34ish the brutes will green out enough that you’ll probably want a new place. Root rotting in Nurga is fun at this level. Charm killing in the fields in front of the sarnak fort or fear kiting at the goblin fort in LOIO are also good. So’s the FM giant fort. You can also venture far afield and play in SolA or SK or Splitpaw until 38ish.

Around 38, you’re going to want to buy a Circlet of Shadow. This will change the game for you in a big way. It should be your first big purchase (jboots after). I know, all that +INT/+HP gear looks so attractive. Resist! Caster itemization is terrible in p99 EQ. No amount of normal gear will impact your gameplay even 1/10th as much as a CoS alone, and jboots are just gravy on top.

At 38 with a CoS, big options open up. I recommend reverse charming in Kaesora. Charm a mob, send it at a big group, root all members of that group, then break charm right before your pet dies. Murder your pet with a single spell, then charm one of the rooted undead mobs in the mass and repeat. Xp will fly. The second floor of ToFS is another (albeit riskier) possibility at this level, but Kaesora is fantastic. You’ll actually get a few upgrades, and the vendor trash is fantastic. Do library until 40ish then towers/church until 44.

At 44 you can learn underwater fighting at the bloodgills in LOIO of practice charming more in LGuk. Both are wonderful. Ignore ZEMs when you’re charm killing too. You kill so fast and so constantly that low-zem undead like LGuk is going to be better than almost any other xp in the game (bloodgills and oasis specters are only things that really edge it out).

At 51 you get Splurt. Splurt + Root means that the world is your oyster. You can basically kill any mob you can stick spells to so long as it has any **one** of the three following properties (1) vulnerable to fear, (2) doesn’t summon, (3) is undead. There are exceptions, but not many. Explore the world until you get 54, then go to Howling Stones.

Howling Stones basement will take you to 60. If you get bored, mix in KC or CoM. Both are better money than HS and their xp is good, but nothing compares to HS. Fear-kiting Skyshrine wyverns in your mid-late-50’s is also a profitable way to take a break from HS and get some good upgrades for yourself.

Or, ignore all of this! EQ is a game of adventure and exploration. Go where you want! If it isn’t the fastest xp or then best money but IS fun for you, then you’re in the right spot. Take chances!

Thanks, i do like some of the places you mention, the only 'con' i see, is the ZEM in those areas, besides that, it seems like solid places to be hunting at, i might give it a try if my 2nd attempt to Dungeon Crawl into Kaesora fails. (I am currently level 35), i did have CoS since level 20 and i totally agree, is a must, i am missing JBoots, which should be my priority also to get.

IzHaN80
11-12-2021, 01:38 PM
Kurns basement 20-24 then:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282457

I did try the Iksar exiles spot and then the Servant of Sythrax spot, very solid xp places, at least Sythrax does drop words that can be useful for some spells.

Philistine
11-12-2021, 01:57 PM
Went there at 35, the Dungeon itself is so confusing.... Died on my 2nd pull of mobs, can't really find the undead side, i found a spectral guardian, i did charm him, i made him fight a spider, charm breaks, FD gets cancel cause spider casts spell in the last second of my FD, 2 roots resists, 3 gate interrupts (i was against a wall)... I don't really know how good this place is, but sure i do hate that there is minimal space to kite and also it does really look so confusing and easy to get lost.

FWIW, that sounds like the typical learning to charm experience:-/ It's tough to figure out (or it was for me anyway), but you feel super OP once you get it figured out.

I'm case you weren't already doing some/all of this, I figured I'd provide a couple of tips that help make things easier. If you're already doing all this, then ignore me :)

1-Root your target as soon as you have him positioned where you want him. That way, when charm breaks he and your former pet don't both run over and start beating on you.
2-Keep your pet targeted except to check the HP of what you're trying to kill. That way when charm breaks, you don't have to scramble to target him
3-The moment charm breaks start casting Screaming Terror on your pet. In my experience, he may interrupt you once, but probably not twice, even if you aren't positioned against a wall. As soon as Screaming terror lands recharm him.
4-When fighting casters try to hide behind corners to LOS them when you don't actively need to cast on them.
5-I don't keep Gate on my bar, though I do keep HS. Just a matter of preference I'm sure!

While deaths in your 30s and 40s feel rough, you're wise to get the learning curve out of the way now instead of in your 50s...like this dumb necro I know ;)

Stick with it! You'll feel like a rockstar when you get it figured out

Vertiggo
12-09-2021, 04:38 PM
I went to the Warren's and can now vendor and purchase spells in paineel... wouldn't look back honestly

Vermineux
12-17-2021, 10:40 AM
Just to put in my 2cp about Nurga: it's rough. Quite doable as a 34 Necro, but it is butthole clenching. Between all the dots, nuking, dispel, and harmtouch, every fight besides Whipcrackers is very risky. I got about 40% of a level there and didn't die, but came damn close a few times. The EXP is quite good, and the loot is decent, but man is it a rough spot to fight. Getting pretty much any class to come duo it with you would make it amazing.

Toxigen
12-17-2021, 03:21 PM
Went there at 35, the Dungeon itself is so confusing.... Died on my 2nd pull of mobs, can't really find the undead side, i found a spectral guardian, i did charm him, i made him fight a spider, charm breaks, FD gets cancel cause spider casts spell in the last second of my FD, 2 roots resists, 3 gate interrupts (i was against a wall)... I don't really know how good this place is, but sure i do hate that there is minimal space to kite and also it does really look so confusing and easy to get lost.

You don't kite anything while charming.

You charm a mob, attack other mobs. Keep target rooted so when charm breaks you're only dealing with your break.

Are you on blue? I'd be happy to give you a quick tour of Kaesora.

There is no better place to do 35-42 ish if you can get proficient charming.

Vermineux
12-20-2021, 02:03 PM
You don't kite anything while charming.

You charm a mob, attack other mobs. Keep target rooted so when charm breaks you're only dealing with your break.

Are you on blue? I'd be happy to give you a quick tour of Kaesora.

There is no better place to do 35-42 ish if you can get proficient charming.

How do you manage the first room on the right, when you drop down from the entrance? Every time I go there I find at least one Briarweb Spider that sees through standard invis. Am I supposed to just run past and try to lose aggro with FD? 35 Nec btw.

Chortles Snortles
01-26-2022, 07:11 PM
anyone that says live in kaesora starting @ 34 or sythrax charming is lying to you (or did it before current green era where shit is actually fixed and tuned)

Here’s my IKS NEC experience TO DATE

24-34 warslik woods brute caves fear kite EZ MODE (or fort groups)
34-35 dalnir (iksar forsaken area deep in, oddly enough is doable)
35-40 timorous deep (the great oompwomp fear kite EZ MODE)
i am here now deciding on the following:
40-50 city of mist or kaesora (44-50 kaesora charm EZ MODE)

Jimjam
01-27-2022, 01:40 AM
Any plans for 51+ Charlie Snorter or is that simply time to reroll a new sk/nec?

Tewaz
01-27-2022, 12:17 PM
51+ go kill classic guards to 55 or even 56, pocket 30k+ plat. EZ

Chortles Snortles
01-27-2022, 03:47 PM
imagine becoming guard killer scum
Yuck!

Toxigen
01-27-2022, 04:45 PM
anyone that says live in kaesora starting @ 34 or sythrax charming is lying to you (or did it before current green era where shit is actually fixed and tuned)



on blue i solo'd there at 34

had a z heart and full velious gear though

strongNpretty
01-27-2022, 05:12 PM
Frozen Tower!!!!!

Chortles Snortles
01-27-2022, 11:05 PM
on blue i solo'd there at 34

had a z heart and full velious gear though

ah well there it is
on green root breaks too often to effectively reverse kite charm them in addition to them being annoying mobs to charm at 35 even

kaesora is better suited for 44 charm

Chortles Snortles
01-29-2022, 09:40 PM
update
kaesora charm seems reasonable post 40 on green

Chortles Snortles
01-30-2022, 08:52 PM
update
City of Mist (Stables area) is a comfy charm camp @42-45

oldschoolguy
02-06-2022, 05:54 PM
Kurns till 22 is good. Usually upstairs till about 20, then drop into the sewers and stay there till 22 or even 24. After that you'll have too many greens.

Save all the bone chips, you'll never need bone chips again after that.

24-30 LOIO
30-40 FM
and so on...