Best/Worst Race for single group in classic

[eqravenprince]

Green 2.0, if you had a full group of each race, which one reaches level 50 first? And which one gets to 50 last?

[nyclin]

fastest would be tossup between human (no xp penalty, all classes except SHM available) or halfling (5% xp bonus + good class distribution)

slowest is always going to be troll due to 20% penalty and low class diversity

[eqravenprince]

I don't know which is why I asked, but here's my answers

Fastest - Humans cause they can be chanters and are closest chanter race to Permafrost.
Slowest - Not sure, my guess is Dwarves. I just think a full group of Trolls would level faster cause of having Shaman instead of Cleric.

[starkind]

Halflings omfg so fast.

War, rog, rog, rog, dru, clr. Gg.

Also with 2 healers u don't really need slows.

I'm guessing a troll or iksar grp war, war, war, war, war, shm wouldn't be terrible. It'll still take a day or two longer to reach max, which in the grand scheme isn't terrible anyway.

Monks. Sks have terrible exp penalties. So it could literally end up taking as much as double the time played. War, necro, mon, sk, shm would be a powerful grp tho.

[brecon]

Any race with Enchanters, since your optimal XP group will be multiple enchanters.

All races with Enchanters also have clerics

I would throw in a Bard for pulling and optimal mana regen for the cleric

So the answer is probably 4 enchanters, 1 Cleric, 1 Bard, which means the only option is Humans.

The killing speed of a 4-enchanter XP group more than makes up for the Halfling XP bonus.

[starkind]

mage, enchanter, necro, wizard, druid, all human + a barb sham

is sick has every toolkit and zero downsides and plenty of tankability between 4 pets potentially 5 if animals are involved

i guess u could do a human bard if u want to keep it all humans

don't understimate 3 hafling rogues with polished steel dirks tho i mean they can easily level with little else but looted gear and still kill pretty quickly meaning almost no farming neccissary between the three of them would be a cakewalk all spamming intimidate 2 and chasing mobs around outdoors everywhere.

[Naethyn]

war, clr, enc, enc, enc, enc

[Toxigen]

its human cleric + bard + 4 enc and its not even close

[Tunabros]

cleric, monk, shaman, 3 enchanters

[Gustoo]

Everyone talking about a bunch of enchies and a cleric and a bard is right

Cleric barely necessary when there is so much backup crowd control but everything goes faster when everyone has like 2x their squishy exp.

[Naethyn]

I think a warrior is better than bard if the plan is to do dungeons. Totally biased, but I did this exact group all the way up.

[Toxigen]

I think a warrior is better than bard if the plan is to do dungeons. Totally biased, but I did this exact group all the way up.

A twinked warrior, sure...but not a Green 2.0 warrior.

Just going to eat the clerics mana trying to keep him healed up.

Really the bard is there purely for mana, could honestly just go with

[Naethyn]

Ya good point. Twinked warrior is a completely different animal. I found my utility for positioning mobs for max dps, while also providing dps, was a great fit.

[starkind]

Brinze, fs is close enough to the ac softcaps. Way better than constantly risking gear on pets. Keep targets rooted and joust with obsidian flamberge cuz ur kewl.

[Twochain]

It would be Human Enc mage mage mage mage cleric until level 20-29ish, then you would sub out the mages for more enchanters + 1 bard or tank. (As, an all enchanter group wouldn't be able to get their pets on the targets really, you need to be hit pretty much)

Honestly, 1 bard and 5 mages could also probably level to 60 faster then the encs assuming they always have available zones to swarm in.

[Gustoo]

I tend to agree twochain its a tough call. The mage power is super strong and their pets are actually reliable so you can focus on churn and not waste any time or available mobs on charmed pets.

[starkind]

really been enjoying my mage on red server was my favorite character so far, even though much harder to play than a wizard incidently, still a lot of fun, i think mages definitely are OP especially when paired with a tank and healer

i duo'd my mage with a warrior and the warrior would just take agro and let me resummon pets, so that was great :D

[Jimjam]

Bard, 2 enc, 2 wiz, cleric.

Great aoe options. Maybe even just bard and 5 wizards if you can beg c and rez out of group.

[starkind]

for AoE grps rly 2 wiz, some ench, and clr is the best because u need multiple aoe stuns

and two wizards is just about enough mana to kill everything, ench rly makes it go smooth with twisting flux spells and cleric popping aoe heal

[Jimjam]

Cleric has some nice words so can dps admirably in aoe group when not filling other rolls.

Bard snare is handy alternative/failsafe to stuns. Plus needed to create sagas reporting the epic deeds of the wizards.

I guess i vote hoomin best.

[Jimjam]

i duo'd my mage with a warrior and the warrior would just take agro and let me resummon pets, so that was great :D

What maniac duos a mage and warrior with no heals?!

[PatChapp]

Erudite -nec 2chanters, 2 mages and cleric
Lots of options, 5 pets and a healer
Less gear dependant than humans. Basically don't need anything other than a bit of cleric gear. Still close to powerleveling zones blackburrow and perma.

[Gustoo]

What maniac duos a mage and warrior with no heals?!

Didn't your quote answer your question?

lol

[starkind]

What maniac duos a mage and warrior with no heals?!

Idk.

Was really fun tho. More so than most EQ experiences. Probably was all the other guys fault for being funny :p

I'm not normally addicted to this game or relationships. Was pretty painful when I had to move on.

[Twochain]

for AoE grps rly 2 wiz, some ench, and clr is the best because u need multiple aoe stuns

and two wizards is just about enough mana to kill everything, ench rly makes it go smooth with twisting flux spells and cleric popping aoe heal

I think the mages level faster than the wizards because mana pools are like... uh nothing in classic. You pretty much only get more mana when you level..... gear is so bad. Plus if you're absolutely just going full retard trying to get 50, you're not going off of the swarm paths to try and score a piece of loot, so I think the mages pets for when they are OOM and there is mobs left in the kite definitely goes faster overall/more efficiently.

[Tunabros]

any group with an enchanter and a healer will rock ass

[WButler89]

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