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imperiouskitten
10-13-2021, 03:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/nAhtTmn.png

Tunabros
10-13-2021, 04:00 PM
your fucking disgusting and cringe

Toxigen
10-13-2021, 04:33 PM
AnxUu36-uYw

Jibartik
10-13-2021, 04:47 PM
RACING RACING RACING :mad:

Disease
10-13-2021, 05:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/nAhtTmn.png

They should hunt down the uncle responsible for this.

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:18 PM
Master pokeball cannot miss, right??

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:19 PM
..

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:20 PM

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:21 PM
..,,.

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:22 PM
,,

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:24 PM
,,..

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 05:26 PM
Sorry I don’t have many of guys :/

Whale biologist
10-13-2021, 06:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Jy7lVEe.png

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 08:01 PM
“Feel my muscles”

imperiouskitten
10-13-2021, 08:03 PM
unsung, you made my thread so good. Pokesan, nice image! :)



your fucking disgusting and cringe

ya ok.gif

https://i.imgur.com/LtrQQOS.jpg

im squeaky clean and this is how ill do u in minecraft, boyee

https://i.imgur.com/X9l3NVK.jpg

He's so frickin handsome :D

Oh yeah, Tuna, I remembered you are a proud volcel in addition to a transphobe. Maybe ur getting me confused with somebody gross because i'm always talking about sex when you come by, as you are terrified of it and, loving you, in a dysfunctional elder sister sort of way, I happen to think exposures to sex and complex sentence structure will do you good. :D So I'm FINNA be talkin about the old biscuits and gravy when you drop in to remind me I mean a lot to you and that's just what it's gonna be, mister, whether I'm disgusting or not!

I fully admit to cringe tho! But let's focus on the topic -- insanely hot shizz that makes you nutt uncontrollably like a sticky fire hose!!

https://i.imgur.com/y2TrTe7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r9dvHLW.png

https://i.imgur.com/4I6UPFR.png

https://i.imgur.com/wpfuhWk.jpg

Whale biologist
10-13-2021, 08:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/X9l3NVK.jpg

He's so frickin handsome :D


he does look nice in that photo!

Homesteaded
10-13-2021, 09:06 PM
Your “boyfriend” looks like a pre-mental illness version of yourself. No offense.

imperiouskitten
10-13-2021, 09:25 PM
Your “boyfriend” looks like a pre-mental illness version of yourself. No offense.

Still finding it funny that Patriam and others found me less or even PRE-mentally ill when all they could see me doing was ruthless sadistic trolling on this board. With a LOT more words than I type now. Sitting at work withdrawing from methadone, barely hanging on, saying just literally the meanest things I could say and using all means I could to support the arguments in bad faith, all the time. I promise you that that -- the content you people liked the most -- was me at my lowest and most mentally ill.

Also finding it funny how bad an eye y'all mongrels have for judging features. Like you look at people's faces without seeing their nose, or something. But I guess it isn't very hip to marry a man of similar coloration to oneself nowadays ;) (jd is 3 shades darker with a totally different nose shape, built tall and wide instead of tall and unusually narrow, and weighs a *lot* more than I ever have. In muscles. He does also have good cheekbones tho).
----------------------------------------------------
...okay, rereading this, I'm thinking -- you are complimenting how much I have changed. i personally don't think i was ever as masc handsome as JD with the 4 inches on me and built with much thicker bones, but hey. I guess I have some versatility (jk lol not at all).

Now, I have been pretty severely ill off and on and it's made me emotional at times. Sicker than you understand it can get for a person who looks like I do. So I guess you've got me: 3 days into when I can no longer take food or water or medication, my chemicals unbalance and I post silly things online which I do not take particularly seriously. Sometimes I even cry and have to seek comfort from JD. So fuck me, 'cuz I'm a tranny. Does that about get the size of it?

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 09:41 PM
That’s a now-illegal folding stock. But I won’t say nothin

I had the same folding stock on a beloved modified 22 rifle my dad and I had worked on until my stepfather allowed a meth head family member of his who claimed to be trying to get back on his feet stay with us. He ended up stealing and pawning that 22, my shotgun, my friend’s shotgun that happened to be at my house, and our dvd player

Man I miss that gun…

Karmic Justice (somewhat, a little too much justice even for me though) was that he ended up becoming schizophrenic from drug use and homeless. He’s been off the grid now for a long time

imperiouskitten
10-13-2021, 09:53 PM
Is it illegal really?!?! I have googling to do lol. All laws are being followed, officers.

My Mom brought her friend over to my childhood bedroom while I was at university and she somehow got out with all the change I had ever saved in my entire life. I used to pay cash for everything and just pile tons of quarters in, I mean we are talking too heavy for me to lift. It's not about the money it's about the satisfaction of all those coins!

Surprise surprise, after Mom passed the little bit of land she left me with a house on it was COMPLETELY mauled for the construction materials, copper at least, in a classic methed up heist that left a giant bill and expense standing by the little lake instead of a valuable domicile. It was a place the friend had been to before. Why are people so ruthless!

Gravydoo II
10-13-2021, 09:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzgjglZqS3Y

shits pretty hot.

Bearsnowls
10-13-2021, 10:05 PM
Eh nothing wrong with attention seeking every now and then. You and your fella look good!

unsunghero
10-13-2021, 10:50 PM
Deleted my gun posts because I didn’t want to hijack the thread and make it about guns lol

Tunabros
10-13-2021, 11:23 PM
yikes

hope mods ban you for being so fucking cringe and posting lowkey pornographic material

on elf sim forums

Whale biologist
10-13-2021, 11:32 PM
yikes

hope mods ban you for being so fucking cringe and posting lowkey pornographic material

on elf sim forums

Tasteful nudery is called art. ;)

Trexller
10-14-2021, 05:39 AM
unsung, you made my thread so good. Pokesan, nice image! :)





ya ok.gif

https://i.imgur.com/LtrQQOS.jpg

im squeaky clean and this is how ill do u in minecraft, boyee

https://i.imgur.com/X9l3NVK.jpg

He's so frickin handsome :D

Oh yeah, Tuna, I remembered you are a proud volcel in addition to a transphobe. Maybe ur getting me confused with somebody gross because i'm always talking about sex when you come by, as you are terrified of it and, loving you, in a dysfunctional elder sister sort of way, I happen to think exposures to sex and complex sentence structure will do you good. :D So I'm FINNA be talkin about the old biscuits and gravy when you drop in to remind me I mean a lot to you and that's just what it's gonna be, mister, whether I'm disgusting or not!

I fully admit to cringe tho! But let's focus on the topic -- insanely hot shizz that makes you nutt uncontrollably like a sticky fire hose!!

https://i.imgur.com/y2TrTe7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r9dvHLW.png

https://i.imgur.com/4I6UPFR.png

https://i.imgur.com/wpfuhWk.jpg

Who puts a sticker on a dude's man-boob then snaps a pic of his pasty white flat ass?

Also, how are nude pics of dudes allowed on this forum? for all we know that could be someone underage

downvote and reported.

Toxigen
10-14-2021, 05:58 AM
https://i.imgur.com/g2I2aPM.jpg

starkind
10-14-2021, 08:35 AM
Impk wins trannyquest

Open them blinds girl while u vR. Not in the xude. Tho. Police will put u on suicide watch naked.

hobart
10-14-2021, 11:12 AM
Pawn shotgun for $20. Put towards a new car.

Seriously, of everything offensive in this thread, that "car" is the worst.

Toxigen
10-14-2021, 01:59 PM
yeah but impK is filthy rich

unsunghero
10-14-2021, 02:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/g2I2aPM.jpg

Had this one saved on my phone for some reason. I guess cause of them legs…

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 02:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxqVEbnsOno

starkind
10-14-2021, 02:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxqVEbnsOno

Thanks, I clicked and now everyone is going to think I'm a lesbian and a perv. Cuz of my eternally cached by the NSA browsing history.

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 02:43 PM
Thanks, I clicked and now everyone is going to think I'm a lesbian and a perv. Cuz of my eternally cached by the NSA browsing history.

There's nothing wrong with simply enjoying the fine sport of pole vaulting.

Toxigen
10-14-2021, 02:46 PM
DkTXEexNB2E

now that shit is fire

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 03:03 PM
Oh god he was so painfully uncomfortable during that, it was great

"Do you think it's bad for CNN to lie?"

*pulls at collar* heh, I mean, it's heh, they shouldn't, heh, woooo! wow. heh yeah. heh.

unsunghero
10-14-2021, 03:11 PM
Thanks, I clicked and now everyone is going to think I'm a lesbian and a perv. Cuz of my eternally cached by the NSA browsing history.

I’m sitting in a middle school atm waiting to talk to a parent so no way am I opening that here lol

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 03:16 PM
It's just an olympic sport!

Jibartik
10-14-2021, 03:17 PM
DkTXEexNB2E

now that shit is fire

we should cut him to pieces in a laboratory and let me inject him into my body.

starkind
10-14-2021, 03:33 PM
Gymnastics got SJWd hard lately cuz of a few high profile cases where the coach got busted.

I like the sport too. Wish I could also vault like an Olympic champ. It takes real skill.

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 03:35 PM
Oh god he was so painfully uncomfortable during that, it was great

"Do you think it's bad for CNN to lie?"

*pulls at collar* heh, I mean, it's heh, they shouldn't, heh, woooo! wow. heh yeah. heh.

Joe kinda bullied him. Not much of a discussion if you railroad your guests like that. 🤷

starkind
10-14-2021, 03:41 PM
DkTXEexNB2E

now that shit is fire

we should cut him to pieces in a laboratory and let me inject him into my body.
Lol this is fucking awesome.

Ivermectin for the rich only. VA won't prescribe it 2 me though. I don't want to know what they would prescribe if I tested positive for covid. It'd probably kill me lol.

And yeah he's a great looking guy. Shame on CNN for using that filter.

Toxigen
10-14-2021, 03:41 PM
Joe kinda bullied him. Not much of a discussion if you railroad your guests like that. 🤷

But there isn't a discussion to be had.

The drug is used widely for both humans and animals. CNN specifically focused on the veterinary version and convinced people like Horza people were taking horse paste.

starkind
10-14-2021, 03:48 PM
Joe kinda bullied him. Not much of a discussion if you railroad your guests like that. 🤷

I feel like he went rly ez on him lol. He even smiled at him and said you're a nice guy and I got the impression Joe wasn't personally attacking this guy at all. The other guy should have said. "Let me get an opportunity to frame my rebuttal and get a word in edgwise" tho.

However Joe's point stands. For the record. And it was good fun.

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 03:50 PM
Joe didn't bully him he was being jovial with a smile most of the time and even said he's a nice guy.

He was also totally right, and Sanjay admitted as much, if a bit sheepishly.

CNN completely lied, showed their hand and revealed their obvious bias for the billionth time, and Joe was maybe a little peeved that they were lying about him. If a doctor prescribed you an antibiotic, and that same antibiotic is sometimes used in cats, it doesn't mean you're taking cat medicine. That's not how medicine or science works, and Joe was rightly pissed about it.

EDIT: Me and starkind with almost identical posts

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 03:51 PM
The drug is used widely for both humans and animals.

Yes, as an antiparasitic. Not for a novel virus invented by the Chinese last spring.

Which Gupta tried to say but Rogan won the charisma roll.

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 03:58 PM
Yes, as an antiparasitic. Not for a novel virus invented by the Chinese last spring.

Which Gupta tried to say but Rogan won the charisma roll.

It also functions as an anti-viral and is a first-line therapy for covid patients in japan. Good google search though.

I mean, why be averse to it if you just want people to get better? It has an extremely good safety profile, and has existed for fifty years. So we do have longterm data on it, unlike the vaccines. Sometimes drugs have promising new uses that you don't find out about until there is a new threat. Apparently, for certain people it does work to lessen symptoms and speed recovery. That's a good thing. Why fight against it unless you're just always politically motivated?

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:01 PM
It also functions as an anti-viral Good google search though.

Source?

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:07 PM
We don't have long term data on using it as an antiviral, you dipshit.

Gatordash
10-14-2021, 04:11 PM
We don't have long term data on using it as an antiviral, you dipshit.

We don't have long term data on the vaccine being used against coronavirus either.

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 04:11 PM
Source?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/

There's one. Literally the first result. It essentially says it may be effective, but may require modification to treat covid specifically. But because no real research has been done, since we're only about a year into even looking into it, you can't conclusively say that it does or doesn't work.

Even if it's not effective though, it's also an extremely safe drug in humans, so why not investigate it if it saves lives? The few people actually taking horse paste are taking a dose about 100x that of a human dose, because as it turns out horses weigh a lot more than human beings.

TLDR: The hysterical resistance to ivermectin is driven purely by jerry springer-level tabloid understanding of the science.

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:17 PM
We don't have long term data on the vaccine being used against coronavirus either.

Sars was a coronavirus. That was 20 years ago when they started mRNA research. Also, normal vaccines exist for covid and were brought to market in a similar time as the covid-19 mRNA vaccines.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7539925/

There's one. Literally the first result. It essentially says it may be effective, but may require modification to treat covid specifically. But because no real research has been done, since we're only about a year into even looking into it, you can't conclusively say that it does or doesn't work.

Even if it's not effective though, it's also an extremely safe drug in humans, so why not investigate it if it saves lives? The few people actually taking horse paste are taking a dose about 100x that of a human dose, because as it turns out horses weigh a lot more than human beings.

TLDR: The hysterical resistance to ivermectin is driven purely by jerry springer-level tabloid understanding of the science.

2015.

Can you Google something for me?

"Which is longer 6 years or 20 years?"

Thanks in advance for doing the needful. :)

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 04:21 PM
2015.

Can you Google something for me?

"Which is longer 6 years or 20 years?"

Thanks in advance for doing the needful. :)

What? Did you even read it? They are specifically talking about ivermectin and covid-19.

You asked for a source, I provided a paper from the national institutes for health, and then you said it was from 2015 even though it's from 2020?

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about hot girls or something? This should be in the politics thread.

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:36 PM
What? Did you even read it? They are specifically talking about ivermectin and covid-19.

You asked for a source, I provided a paper from the national institutes for health, and then you said it was from 2015 even though it's from 2020?

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about hot girls or something? This should be in the politics thread.

2015 some kind of prize, that's as far as I read

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 04:39 PM
2015 some kind of prize, that's as far as I read

Lol then why did you ask for a source? Yeah in 2015 it literally won a nobel prize, for use in humans.

Perhaps if you ask for a source specifically about my claim that ivermectin has antiviral properties, and then I provide a source from the actual NIH, you could actually read it?

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:41 PM
You need medical training to parse these things correctly. Like it says the antiviral effectiveness has not been proven in vivo and I think that means in a living body, but I am a huge dumbass so ???

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:43 PM
Lol then why did you ask for a source? Yeah in 2015 it literally won a nobel prize, for use in humans.

Perhaps if you ask for a source specifically about my claim that ivermectin has antiviral properties, and then I provide a source from the actual NIH, you could actually read it?

2015 prize for use as an antiparasitic.

Did you Google the phrase yet? Add "or 1 year" to your boolean. ;) (like you said.)

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 04:49 PM
You're just moving the goalposts. You asked for a source, I gave you a perfectly legitimate source, and then you go "Welll I'm not a doctor." Like then why did you ask for a source?

I already said this is just evidence, and good evidence, but not a conclusion. The people ranting about horse paste have no expertise either, why do you just automatically go with them?

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 04:51 PM
No, you're lying. Your post that said "source?" was in direct response to me saying "it shows antiviral activity".

It *does*, it's a scientific fact. It is also *expected* to show antiviral activity against covid-19 specifically, but more research needs to be conducted.

That is hardly "horse paste bad lol".

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:55 PM
You're just moving the goalposts. You asked for a source, I gave you a perfectly legitimate source, and then you go "Welll I'm not a doctor." Like then why did you ask for a source?

I already said this is just evidence, and good evidence, but not a conclusion. The people ranting about horse paste have no expertise either, why do you just automatically go with them?

No, you're lying. Your post that said "source?" was in direct response to me saying "it shows antiviral activity".

It *does*, it's a scientific fact. It is also *expected* to show antiviral activity against covid-19 specifically, but more research needs to be conducted.

That is hardly "horse paste bad lol".

You being functionally illiterate is not me lying. :p

the antiviral activity of ivermectin has not been consistently proven in vivo.

Botten
10-14-2021, 04:55 PM
No, you're lying. Your post that said "source?" was in direct response to me saying "it shows antiviral activity".

It *does*, it's a scientific fact. It is also *expected* to show antiviral activity against covid-19 specifically, but more research needs to be conducted.

That is hardly "horse paste bad lol".

Two ppl have died from using it in New Mexico.

It alters RNA just like the Vaccine (so no excuse can be made to take it over the vaccine.)

India stopped using it after they found in a study it did nothing. It is literally hydroxychloroquine all over again and right leaning groups are making a ton of money off of it.

Whale biologist
10-14-2021, 04:57 PM
Anyway, new page, back on topic

https://i.imgur.com/G8GQqe1.jpg

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 04:59 PM
You being functionally illiterate is not me lying. :p

Do you know the difference between a hypothesis and a conclusion, while you're calling me illiterate?

If something has not been "conclusively proven", that's very different than "there is no evidence for this at all and it is almost certainly false", which is how the media spun ivermectin. This paper directly contradicts that. BTW the media were also spreading paranoid hypochondria about monoclonal antibodies when trump was taking them, but now ooooops turns out they are super valuable! Womp womp.

The theory of relativity has not been "conclusively proven" either, there's just a mountain of evidence to support it. Same for evolution, same for the age of the earth and the universe. And I'm assuming you accept those things?

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 05:00 PM
Two ppl have died from using it in New Mexico.

It alters RNA just like the Vaccine (so no excuse can be made to take it over the vaccine.)

India stopped using it after they found in a study it did nothing. It is literally hydroxychloroquine all over again and right leaning groups are making a ton of money off of it.

No, it's not. Read the paper I posted.

Trexller
10-14-2021, 05:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxqVEbnsOno

This is exactly why the ancient greek's competed in the nude.

They knew whats up.

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 05:15 PM
But it doesn't hurt, it has 50 years of documentation showing that it's use in humans is extremely safe. And there is immense evidence it may help, based on the paper you asked me for and were then too lazy to read. I'm asked for a source, I post a source, and you don't read it.

These studies are exhaustive and carried about by people far more qualified than any of us, and it shows extreme promise for a safe drug that may ease the symptoms of covid (No botten, it is not supposed to be "an alternative to vaccines". It is a therapy for people who already *have* covid, to ease their symptoms and speed recovery. See how that's different?).

GinnasP99
10-14-2021, 05:18 PM
Dude, pole vaulting is pretty fucking sick

unsunghero
10-14-2021, 05:26 PM
This is exactly why the ancient greek's competed in the nude.

They knew whats up.

Socrates just needed to add “or woman” :)

GinnasP99
10-14-2021, 05:28 PM
Socrates just needed to add “or woman” :)

Facts, guys seriously. If you're out of shape, start eating right and working out. Changed my life forever. Trust me, you deserve it.

Gravydoo II
10-14-2021, 05:54 PM
They are happy being miserable fatties. They think its the norm.

starkind
10-14-2021, 05:56 PM
No one has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for someone to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which they're body is capable.

You may QUOTE me on this.

Also can I get a source for the Socrates quote? I would very much like proof he actually said such a thing. Also I doubt very much he spoke English. So can we please get it in original coptic, or Greek, or whatever?

Trexller
10-14-2021, 06:09 PM
people have to many places to hide today.

No, its not genetic.
No, its not a disorder.
No, its not psychological.
No, its not a product of media body image.
No, you are not "ok" just the way you are.

You are a fatty fat fuck, you ate yourself into that condition. No amount of outward blame will make you a thin bikini model. You will still be ugly, even if a miracle occurs and you thin out.

Now that you can admit this, feel free to drown your sorrows in 5 lbs of mac n cheese, and finish that off with 2 gallons of ice cream.

No, i do not hope this helps.

unsunghero
10-14-2021, 07:13 PM
No one has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for someone to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which they're body is capable.

You may QUOTE me on this.

Also can I get a source for the Socrates quote? I would very much like proof he actually said such a thing. Also I doubt very much he spoke English. So can we please get it in original coptic, or Greek, or whatever?

All I could find was this, from some Reddit philosophy nerd:

“ Sokrates never wrote anything down, so all we know about him is how he is described by others. These accounts offer limited information about his life and don't always agree on his philosophies. Apart from the contemporary parody of Sokrates in Aristophanes' Clouds, we mostly rely on the philosophical dialogues written by two of Sokrates' students, Xenophon and Plato. Whether these authors represented Sokrates' views accurately or merely used him as a mouthpiece for their own ideas is debated. Whether their image of Sokrates as an ugly, poorly dressed, ostentatiously poor old man matched the reality is up for grabs.

So, when we get a quote like this, how can we know whether Sokrates really said it, let alone whether he lived by it? Unfortunately, we can't really know for sure. What we can do, though, is work out how likely it is that he held this view, and if so, how likely it is that he held himself to it. To do this, we need to consider the context of the quote.

This context is, in fact, a very short Sokratic dialogue by Xenophon (Memorabilia 3.12). According to the text, Sokrates ran into a young acquaintance of his named Epigenes, who was out of shape. Sokrates told him he ought to go do some exercise. Epigenes replied, "But I'm not an athlete." At this point Sokrates chewed him out.

The main point of Sokrates' argument, however, is not that men owe it to themselves to train their bodies so they can look their best. The quote you cited (3.12.8) is little more than the cherry on the cake, a closing line meant to convince Epigenes by appealing to his vanity. The entire rest of the argument is that Epigenes owes it to the state to train his body, because otherwise he will be useless in war. Epigenes should think of himself as an athlete, Sokrates argues (3.12.1), because he will have to fight for his city, and the only way to be a good fighter is to get fit”

There’s more to the post but this is the part that best explains the quote

Botten
10-14-2021, 07:17 PM
But it doesn't hurt, it has 50 years of documentation showing that it's use in humans is extremely safe. And there is immense evidence it may help, based on the paper you asked me for and were then too lazy to read. I'm asked for a source, I post a source, and you don't read it.

These studies are exhaustive and carried about by people far more qualified than any of us, and it shows extreme promise for a safe drug that may ease the symptoms of covid (No botten, it is not supposed to be "an alternative to vaccines". It is a therapy for people who already *have* covid, to ease their symptoms and speed recovery. See how that's different?).

Inhaling hydrogen peroxide through nebulizer is being used by the same idiots. Since your not a specialist do you think that should be done too? Oh look Facebook studies agree!!

https://www.facebook.com/HydrogenPeroxideNebulization/videos/how-to-nebulize-hydrogen-peroxide/1167894870299734/

Awe the site like the others making similar claims was taken down. That means it must be really really effective.

starkind
10-14-2021, 07:32 PM
All I could find was this, from some Reddit philosophy nerd:

“ Sokrates never wrote anything down, so all we know about him is how he is described by others. These accounts offer limited information about his life and don't always agree on his philosophies. Apart from the contemporary parody of Sokrates in Aristophanes' Clouds, we mostly rely on the philosophical dialogues written by two of Sokrates' students, Xenophon and Plato. Whether these authors represented Sokrates' views accurately or merely used him as a mouthpiece for their own ideas is debated. Whether their image of Sokrates as an ugly, poorly dressed, ostentatiously poor old man matched the reality is up for grabs.

So, when we get a quote like this, how can we know whether Sokrates really said it, let alone whether he lived by it? Unfortunately, we can't really know for sure. What we can do, though, is work out how likely it is that he held this view, and if so, how likely it is that he held himself to it. To do this, we need to consider the context of the quote.

This context is, in fact, a very short Sokratic dialogue by Xenophon (Memorabilia 3.12). According to the text, Sokrates ran into a young acquaintance of his named Epigenes, who was out of shape. Sokrates told him he ought to go do some exercise. Epigenes replied, "But I'm not an athlete." At this point Sokrates chewed him out.

The main point of Sokrates' argument, however, is not that men owe it to themselves to train their bodies so they can look their best. The quote you cited (3.12.8) is little more than the cherry on the cake, a closing line meant to convince Epigenes by appealing to his vanity. The entire rest of the argument is that Epigenes owes it to the state to train his body, because otherwise he will be useless in war. Epigenes should think of himself as an athlete, Sokrates argues (3.12.1), because he will have to fight for his city, and the only way to be a good fighter is to get fit”

There’s more to the post but this is the part that best explains the quote

You delivered.

Kittycat fistbumps 4 u!

https://i.imgur.com/MtBDFE3.jpeg

Ooloo
10-14-2021, 08:47 PM
Inhaling hydrogen peroxide through nebulizer is being used by the same idiots. Since your not a specialist do you think that should be done too? Oh look Facebook studies agree!!

https://www.facebook.com/HydrogenPeroxideNebulization/videos/how-to-nebulize-hydrogen-peroxide/1167894870299734/

Awe the site like the others making similar claims was taken down. That means it must be really really effective.

Doctors are prescribing it for active covid symptoms, you complete moron. Did you not see the rogan story? His doctor prescribed it. Because it is a drug for humans. It shows a lot of promise based on the paper I posted alone, and it is not dangerous. His doctor did *not* prescribe inhaling hydrogen peroxide through a nebulizer, however. Who cares what idiots do?

Now post some hot girls or stfu.

unsunghero
10-15-2021, 12:38 AM
My fantasy, Kayleigh McEneny as press secretary calling on reporter Chanel Rion from One America News network

unsunghero
10-15-2021, 12:39 AM
..

starkind
10-15-2021, 09:56 AM
Time for sweat pants to shave her head and get a job on an oil rig or maybe a Waylend Yutani space freighter.

Anyway there's not really a good reason to not look our best. Sorry if I double negged there.

I feel like crap. Yet I still engage in self care and want to feel and look beautiful. I am sick and tired of jerkwads on the left dictating my idea of beauty as wrong. Immoral. Or selfish. They can lead by example and stfu.

However most outright neglect themselves in every way and are hyperfocused on what everyone else looks and sounds like.

Ever been called a bobblehead blonde? That's hurtful. Yet I'm proud of my rarely expressed yet bubbly personality side. Beating it down to get Serious McSlaughterface Sarge. Isn't the right thing to do :(

Whale biologist
10-15-2021, 10:00 AM
Time for sweat pants to shave her head and get a job on an oil rig or maybe a Waylend Yutani space freighter.

Anyway there's not really a good reason to not look our best. Sorry if I double negged there.

I feel like crap. Yet I still engage in self care and want to feel and look beautiful. I am sick and tired of jerkwads on the left dictating my idea of beauty as wrong. Immoral. Or selfish. They can lead by example and stfu.

However most outright neglect themselves in every way and are hyperfocused on what everyone else looks and sounds like.

Ever been called a bobblehead blonde? That's hurtful. Yet I'm proud of my rarely expressed yet bubbly personality side. Beating it down to get Serious McSlaughterface Sarge. Isn't the right thing to do :(

did you shower yet?

Trexller
10-15-2021, 11:06 AM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15992&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1634272778

Post of the Year Award goes to: Unsunghero

Ooloo
10-15-2021, 11:12 AM
Hey now frumpy sweatpants woman might dress up nice.

I mean probably not, but maybe.

starkind
10-15-2021, 11:29 AM
did you shower yet?

I've been actually working out the last 3 days soaking myself in sweet sweat. I am laying here in crippled agony and wearing the same dress I have been for the last week.

My face is clean. My hair brushed. And my room is being cleaned, and I have a new desk to assemble.

I really wanted to shower yesterday, and it's a high priority today as well. It's rough though.

I still managed to clip nails yesterday.

I'd like to shave pits too. Really miss my epilater.

Just because I'm struggling doesn't mean I don't care. And I don't need to be pampered, get an eyebrow threading. Or oil my poor scaley feets.

unsunghero
10-15-2021, 01:16 PM
I've been actually working out the last 3 days soaking myself in sweet sweat. I am laying here in crippled agony and wearing the same dress I have been for the last week

“No mighty blade is forged without pressure and heat”

- Durham Proverbs

Horza
10-15-2021, 01:20 PM
Doctors are prescribing it for active covid symptoms, you complete moron. Did you not see the rogan story? His doctor prescribed it. Because it is a drug for humans. It shows a lot of promise based on the paper I posted alone, and it is not dangerous. His doctor did *not* prescribe inhaling hydrogen peroxide through a nebulizer, however. Who cares what idiots do?

Now post some hot girls or stfu.

Please don't get medical advice from Joe Rogan and other retarded, unqualified conservatives.

Toxigen
10-15-2021, 01:22 PM
Please don't get medical advice from Joe Rogan and other retarded, unqualified conservatives.

You're a fucking moron.

Hope this helps.

Ooloo
10-15-2021, 01:28 PM
Please don't get medical advice from Joe Rogan and other retarded, unqualified conservatives.

I don't, I get medical advice from medical professionals. Like joe rogan did when his doctor prescribed him ivermectin.

Oh and also go tell japan to stop using it. Those dorks don't know anything!

Elizondo
10-15-2021, 01:32 PM
Low IQ peeps still be thinkin Rogan took horse pasta

bergers triggered so bad he posts in a thread for hotties when we all know he never seen no naked woman IRL

Horza
10-15-2021, 01:33 PM
I don't, I get medical advice from medical professionals. Like joe rogan did when his doctor prescribed him ivermectin.

Oh and also go tell japan to stop using it. Those dorks don't know anything!

Social media posts suggest that Japan's government recommends using antiparasitic drug ivermectin to treat Covid-19, citing remarks by the chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association. But he is not a government official, and while clinical trials are ongoing, the Japanese government has to this day not approved ivermectin for that use. (https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9M48JR-1)

Whale biologist
10-15-2021, 01:43 PM
Social media posts suggest that Japan's government recommends using antiparasitic drug ivermectin to treat Covid-19, citing remarks by the chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association. But he is not a government official, and while clinical trials are ongoing, the Japanese government has to this day not approved ivermectin for that use. (https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9M48JR-1)

dunk w/iverson step over :eek:

starkind
10-15-2021, 04:17 PM
“No mighty blade is forged without pressure and heat”

- Durham Proverbs

Back into the flame.

Whale biologist
10-15-2021, 07:02 PM
did you shower yet?

bump

starkind
10-15-2021, 08:39 PM
bump

https://i.imgur.com/6Oi4AgP.jpeg

1st thing tomorrow morning.

imperiouskitten
10-15-2021, 08:55 PM
Pawn shotgun for $20. Put towards a new car.

Seriously, of everything offensive in this thread, that "car" is the worst.

i haven't registered that 130hp BEAST in like two years although I do keep it running. It's a very nice vehicle which perhaps needs a paint job. I like machines and working on them and I don't really need a car, for I have men.

I've admitted I am not rich many times. What I am is able to live happily on a passive income which is self-reinforcing and actively growing, without working. My husband and I are young academics. We are not 40yo careerists who experience pain and anxiety when they witness people who do not suffer as do they. :)

I was eliminating physical possessions already in undergrad. I was storing my car a mile walk from my home when I was 18. I just plain have a different value system, experience set, and interest set from you. I am used to living in places where cars are impractical and rarely used.

I also just plain love old machines, and I have a much more refined and accessible taste than just to look as expensive as possible. I stand up straight in public and make warm eye contact even when I got there in my faithful 1995 Ford Contour (which is the MUSCLE CAR of 90s civics) because I was raised humbly, with self-respect. Sorry.

I could walk away from everything I own (except my wardrobe lol. there's much more money in that than the car of course.), I could leave my car in a ditch on the side of the road or accept its totaling without having a bad afternoon. My life is superior to yours which is why you are mad about what I have but yet dare not call me anything but...young, with my head on straight? :)

starkind
10-15-2021, 09:17 PM
Someone with $100 is rich 2 these boi's lol.

imperiouskitten
10-15-2021, 09:19 PM
never heard a comment about my shoe collection which at retail is worth like four 1995 ford contours despite numbering about 7. they probly dont recognize any of the like from their (ex?)wifes wardrobe. :)

And anyway I am just never able to take seriously people who can only brag about where they are financially, with no respect for the process of getting there. Such people are surely inheritors or never had to have much of a big think.

I reckon they must never have had higher aspirations than money (intellectual achievement, scientific achievement etc) either. It's just a really stupid angle if you've ever actually been in a university around smart people, in a city around wealthy people, etc. They don't own cars lol. Just a sickening call for more consumption of depreciating machines, clearly fielded in defense of a hogwife who doesn't compare to you-know-who physically. Or maybe it's JD's looks they are jelly of. :D

Anyway, again I congratulate the transphobe roll call and "car guys" who "totally know a lot about the expensive car they own and appreciate it a lot" but judge a twenty-something's sleeper by its bumper and trunk. You very clearly have the expertise to appreciate this big stupid depreciating asset which for you stands in for your physical body image inside your ego.

Now listen, having said that, I'm gonna continue posting pictures of people who are harried by pornographers daily to do a shoot, and there may be a one bedroom apartment or a nineties sedan in the back of the pictures. That's because I don't really feel like being a porn star except with total personal control, and I can get by fine other ways anyhow because I am highly educated and let's face it -- too pretty for porn. There may be a sock on my carpet in a future photo however. This is a Trigger Warning.

imperiouskitten
10-15-2021, 09:51 PM
oh and one more remark: surely I'd have married for money if I was worth anything as a woman. So I could have a big new depreciating car in every photo, and not enjoy living and become an angry ghost haunting and hectoring friendly people who are on track to lap me using the powers of good instead of endless endurance of pure suffering and horror. Am I right? :D


Well guess what bucko. I married for money and status. Then divorced for love. And then the money worked out kind of amazingly well anyway, because I'm smarter than that richguy, particularly in that I do not piss away money. I have friends who need help. I have family I want to build a cabin for. I have an actual, functioning value system and morality. My awesome, 100% reliable nineties car is so low on the list, how insecure are you Hobart lmao.

And I admit I only truly evolved to this point after one period of particular privation and indeed, homelessness, following my disillusionment with the path of chasing dollar bills and the absolutely foolish stupidity of equating worldly success with intelligence with virtue. I was homeless two years ago. I now live on passive income. Feel free to do the math, brother, but I got it together fast. Do you have any respect for that? ...nah, this is empty gibberish said because I'm trans and the reality of me will not fit inside your hate.

You are correct to feel hurt though; I would never even consider you. Hobart et al. The line "dead in the womb" comes to mind from an electric wizard song. You'll find a black hole of pity in me for the cuckman, tho, and I'm sure I will write to you again.

Mblake1981
10-15-2021, 10:14 PM
https://twitter.com/ruthless_68GTX/status/1449154485889142789

imperiouskitten
10-15-2021, 11:06 PM
soon blake. I just decided I would learn about these things after I started getting interested in planes some months ago. That's when I discovered how good of a deal that man friend had really gotten me on that ford. ^^

Did I mention it was our 2nd date and actually, he bought it for me in cash? Probly not, I kinda forgot about that. That was when I was getting up off the street :) to cover bases, I will note that I did not put out. He was just nice and well, you'd understand immediately if you'd met me irl before. People generally trust me and seem to see competence in me pretty typically, excepting transphobes post-transition. I've always been the teacher's pet :o

I do regret not taking the racing thing further when my dad was willing to put me through it. Now that it's been many years, the distant memory of flying around uncaged is so faint it's like a legend :o and there is definitely a desire. nay a NEED. for speed. but i'll never ride two wheels again with my hands as they are, and I already married a man who doesn't own an airplane so I'm kinda SOL for now.

I drove one of those 2006 mustangs new when i was in high school (i know lol. never was rich either! just spoiled. well see, my mom was also beautiful and she wound up being handed an extra car) so I've had the "coolest car" experience kinda dropped in my lap by fate already. Not that it was my dream vehicle, but it was well enough to get a rimjob from a younger Hobart. Been it, done it.

so focus right now is increasing cash flow. as it should be. i am not really content in lollygagging around the middle class and encouraging people to behave like poors and buy rims.

I repeat, I have exponentially expanding wealth and do not have to leave my home OR get vaxxed, less than 36 months after being on the street with completely crippled arms and $400.

Every last dime is mobilized in raising my standard of living. That's not how you do it? Ohhhh, because you are tortured by a commute 20 hours a week and need an awful lot of material balm for that black hole in the pit of your stomach.

for all the expensive car fauxbragging I haven't seen so much as a Cessna posted on this board by anyone ever. so enjoy your commuting BEASTS guys, and I'm sure they were all purchased with excellent financial acumen and zero obsession with image insecurity :rolleyes:

All posted in some degree of jest. I have a bit of twisty energy today. I sincerely hope you find fulfillment in kneeling with pride to moloch. But please don't blame me for becoming an absolutely excellent money manager, you weirdos. :D

Ooloo
10-15-2021, 11:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtL5oMyBHPs

starkind
10-15-2021, 11:16 PM
I actually have flown several airplanes and Sailplanes. So. Uhm. I got u gois and goirls beeted.

imperiouskitten
10-15-2021, 11:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtL5oMyBHPs

woah I never heard this particular mgmt. Best material of theirs I've seen :)

imperiouskitten
10-15-2021, 11:20 PM
I actually have flown several airplanes and Sailplanes. So. Uhm. I got u gois and goirls beeted.

(dunk acknowledged),and i have learned that you buy a cheap car for yourself, and borrow don carlo's one-of-a-kind jaguar when you want to be in the most expensive vehicle in a given city of millions. I wonder if a life with adventure in it is what these boys are really missing.

starkind
10-15-2021, 11:21 PM
;)

Knowledge
10-16-2021, 10:09 AM
THE HOTTEST SHIT THERE IS, IS THE SUN.

2HoTK_Gqi2Q

unsunghero
10-16-2021, 11:23 AM
That pole vaulter video reminded me of that one hurdler chick who got famous for her hot little warm up dance she did before ever race. I remember seeing it on the news lol

Whale biologist
10-16-2021, 05:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6Oi4AgP.jpeg

1st thing tomorrow morning.

Bump

starkind
10-16-2021, 06:13 PM
Bump

I did! Changed my pajamas. Everyone loves them. It's where the rly cute dino comes from 😙🥰🦕😚

starkind
10-16-2021, 06:14 PM
A lil drunk r now :p

imperiouskitten
10-16-2021, 08:37 PM
think ive got the beast cornered in my stomach this morning. well, afternoon, but i slept a looong time because i am starving. oh i told you i killed him? yeah a lot of wishful thinking in something liek this. today, my stomach pump attempts will not dislodge him. I am going inpatient until this is over. we are going to the ER to have flexible laser tubes inserted to zap this MOTHER FUCKER like the surface of the sun. Pray for me for the final victory, and repeat after me my new mantra: iznahtatumah

iznahtatumah
iznahtatumah
iznahtatumah
iznahtatumah

Appropriate for this thread because I am more HEATED than i think i have ever been. I am concerned about graphically threatening to murder incompetent medical staff with firearms in real life and causing myself problems. I did a little role playing where I proposed to a particular back-office CUNT who wasted months of my life in torture flat out refusing to repeat a prior auth attempt (silently) that I asked her to do over and over for MONTHS that how about I come back and put six holes in her chest and it felt WAY too good and absolutely justified, frankly.

At least if I start assaulting personnel they are likely to keep me restrained on premise until something is actually done about this fucking disease which is wasting me to death. Just once in my life I want to shatter the skull of a worthless cunt of a nurse under a big stone fist, like if I transformed into the Hulk but made out of stone.

Anyway stick a fucking fork in me I am done. Can't take water without IV. Oh I'm burning hot alright

Trexller
10-16-2021, 09:36 PM
misinformation

Our Star, "the sun" is among the coolest stars the universe has ever made.

You're lookin for blue hypergiants. like 50,000 kelvin.

starkind
10-16-2021, 09:37 PM
think ive got the beast cornered in my stomach this morning. well, afternoon, but i slept a looong time because i am starving. oh i told you i killed him? yeah a lot of wishful thinking in something liek this. today, my stomach pump attempts will not dislodge him. I am going inpatient until this is over. we are going to the ER to have flexible laser tubes inserted to zap this MOTHER FUCKER like the surface of the sun. Pray for me for the final victory, and repeat after me my new mantra: iznahtatumah

iznahtatumah
iznahtatumah
iznahtatumah
iznahtatumah

Appropriate for this thread because I am more HEATED than i think i have ever been. I am concerned about graphically threatening to murder incompetent medical staff with firearms in real life and causing myself problems. I did a little role playing where I proposed to a particular back-office CUNT who wasted months of my life in torture flat out refusing to repeat a prior auth attempt (silently) that I asked her to do over and over for MONTHS that how about I come back and put six holes in her chest and it felt WAY too good and absolutely justified, frankly.

At least if I start assaulting personnel they are likely to keep me restrained on premise until something is actually done about this fucking disease which is wasting me to death. Just once in my life I want to shatter the skull of a worthless cunt of a nurse under a big stone fist, like if I transformed into the Hulk but made out of stone.

Anyway stick a fucking fork in me I am done. Can't take water without IV. Oh I'm burning hot alright

Don't be violent plz.

Sorry world is stupid.

Be patient.

Eat liquidz

I didn't get to ranting to see some evil psychiatrist throw you in a dark hole on shitty meds for being rightously justifiably angry and anxious.

Be cool. Be strong. You're strong. And wise. And smarter. And prettier than me on your worst days.

imperiouskitten
10-16-2021, 11:54 PM
I didn't get violent but when they tried to shrug me off my reply definitely put the fear of god in and ended talk about sending me home with just a referral. This monstrous hospital won't even let you have a visitor cuz of covid, so be ready to stick up for yourself.


Also I was taking some selfies and realized my elbows have pussies 😂😂 plus a bonus.

Ooloo
10-17-2021, 02:39 AM
I mean this is pure fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na5HSzPuRyI

unsunghero
10-17-2021, 12:14 PM
I mean this is pure fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na5HSzPuRyI

Picture me as a kid, finally getting to the last stage in Mega Man II, and then this music comes on

I was so fucking amped. I was like “let’s fucking go!!”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WJRoRt155mA

Or, if we want to go further in time, I think the opening song to a mediocre game, Crono Cross, happens to be one of the best opening game music of any game I played (kingdom hearts is up there too though):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=923fVDDwaHo

unsunghero
10-17-2021, 12:23 PM
Or who can forget the epic Robo the robot theme from Chrono Trigger?? If this doesn’t get you pumped to take on the world, nothing will!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cmY2wf7T428

Cecily
10-17-2021, 08:22 PM
C3CKb3FuG4E Glenn theme tbh.

unsunghero
10-17-2021, 08:38 PM
C3CKb3FuG4E Glenn theme tbh.

Abso-froggin-lutely

unsunghero
10-17-2021, 08:48 PM
Not nearly as good as the ones above, but Secret of Mana was one of the first RPG’s I ever played/beat. I was actually a little freaked out when the music for the second to last boss, the Lich, formerly Thanatos, came on

It was just so out of left field

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJX-s41D3Dc

unsunghero
10-17-2021, 08:59 PM
Legend of mana has a good opening song too, but part of the appeal for me is nostalgia

Regardless, whoever that singer is, she has a beautiful voice. I know it’s some famous singer, I just forget who

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_hW-MHssUd8

Ooloo
10-17-2021, 09:35 PM
Picture me as a kid, finally getting to the last stage in Mega Man II, and then this music comes on

I was so fucking amped. I was like “let’s fucking go!!”


Don't. Just don't. That game and that song are too powerful, it's not really fair.

unsunghero
10-17-2021, 09:40 PM
Don't. Just don't. That game and that song are too powerful, it's not really fair.

I seriously attribute mega man to honing my reflexes for future games. That game series was the epitome of “twitch-based” :)

imperiouskitten
10-18-2021, 06:27 AM
here's my video game music for getting me swole.
Aj8ON5f7UGI

mega man is definitely a gold mine!
AdDbbzuq1vY

Whale biologist
10-18-2021, 12:14 PM
AutgHducsBI

🥷

imperiouskitten
10-18-2021, 08:32 PM
k9du2IXTRdQ
me irl (good mood day)

imperiouskitten
10-18-2021, 09:03 PM
It's the one where she died and came back as a sex zombie

Whale biologist
10-18-2021, 09:10 PM
It's the one where she died and came back as a sex zombie

Deleted cuz I thought I got it wrong. Species tho?

No meme intended.

Whale biologist
10-18-2021, 09:19 PM
Deleted cuz I thought I got it wrong. Species tho?

No meme intended.

Oh! Deadgirl (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadgirl)

Some mix of those things unfortunately in my brainssssss.

Cecily
10-24-2021, 10:47 PM
.

Trexller
10-24-2021, 11:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/GoYuHrI.jpeg

Trexller
10-24-2021, 11:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iDEQaFn.gif