View Full Version : What's so bad about going Anon?
Ronnie555
03-06-2010, 06:56 PM
what's the big deal? i've gone anon a few times for various reasons and have pretty much instantly been called out for it..
who cares? I'm not doing it cause I think I'm cooler than everyone or something... seriously why do people care.
is it considered snobby?
Lanor
03-06-2010, 07:09 PM
It's about as big of a deal as inspecting people without asking them, and having them get angry about it.
AKA it shouldn't matter at all and people who get worked up over it are ridiculous.
siinge
03-06-2010, 09:32 PM
what's the big deal? i've gone anon a few times for various reasons and have pretty much instantly been called out for it..
who cares? I'm not doing it cause I think I'm cooler than everyone or something... seriously why do people care.
is it considered snobby?
its a pain if someone is going to camp.farm.xp and everyones annon.. the other night i was like oh man i cant wait to get to lguk /who all gukbottom oh wow zones empty i wonder whats up... i run 5 zones over get there, 23 people in zone, call a CC everythings camped
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
its not a pvp server no need to hide
President
03-06-2010, 09:46 PM
Anon and Role are the worst things to have ever happened to EQ (cept Luclin models).
Crone
03-06-2010, 09:50 PM
I think it got a bad rap because anon/rp people were often labeled as warpers, using MQ.
Also, many guild attendance tools for raids require you to be /rp or nothing at all to work effectively.
utenan
03-06-2010, 09:55 PM
its pretty annoying sometimes, I can understand why clerics and druids would do it, but it seems like 75% of the damned server is anon, a lot of times I wanna know waht class or race someone is, and I can't, i really don't understand why anyone would want to be anon in such as player oriented game....
Lanor
03-06-2010, 10:16 PM
Anon and Role are the best things to have ever happened to EQ (except Luclin, PoP, and OoW).
I agree totally.
Uaellaen
03-06-2010, 10:35 PM
im /role all the time, to reduce the rez tells to ~100 a day ... sooo sue me!
utenan
03-06-2010, 10:55 PM
im /role all the time, to reduze the rez tells to ~100 a day ... sooo sue me!
Thats understandable, but why a shadowknight would go anon is beyond me...
Tsuken
03-06-2010, 10:58 PM
the other night i was like oh man i cant wait to get to lguk /who all gukbottom oh wow zones empty i wonder whats up... i run 5 zones over get there, 23 people in zone
This is one big reason for me to not like anon.
Also, as a druid I port new group members to the fight, but sometimes i want to run toward the person to speed it up. However, if that person in anon I can't tell exactly where he is without having to ask him all the time.
Lanor
03-06-2010, 10:59 PM
why a shadowknight going anon, or anyone really, would bother you is beyond me...
My name is Jify (and/or Doug), and I /role.
utenan
03-06-2010, 11:39 PM
why a shadowknight going anon, or anyone really, would bother you is beyond me...
I already said why it would bother me, no one has yet to say why they would go anon though... just makes it a hassel for people who want to know what class, race you are (for whatever reason), or to figure out where you are
Lets assume you're this really awesome bard, and you have this gaggle of groupies that follow you around. If you don't /role, all those poor lowly groupies are going to die trying to hang out with you when you're raiding, or AE pulling entire zones, etc.
So you do what the responsible bard would do. You /role, and you save lives.
Atern
03-06-2010, 11:57 PM
If I go anon, it's because I either don't want to be bothered or I don't want people knowing what zone I'm in.
Feel free to go /ano or /role but DONT expect me to answer you when you ask for tp since I have NO clue where you are, who you are or nothing so then WHY should I move from my camp and TP you when you ask me???
Offering me 20-30pp for 10-15 min of my exping time to TP a /ano or /role person isnt anything for me............ thats what boring people can do.
If you go /ano or /role fine do that but dont bother me whit some TP questions since I dont care you are just a /ano person I dont know anything about.
I have never answered a /ano or /role person who sent me a tell if they didnt stand behind me and why should I when I dont know where you are?
I always try to help out low lvl or none /ano-/role people when I can and have time but I dont like hiden people since I have spent to much time traveling to zones and just find out its like 5+ /ano people in the zon that I was trying to camp something in...........I just hate it and thats why I have stopped to answer tells from them. If they will be MR ano and nobody its up to them.
My new rules is if they go ano TP will cost 500pp.......... :-)
Finawin
03-07-2010, 07:53 AM
Code it so people can /who unrest and still see the roleplaying/anon people there. Perfect.
If you think your raid isn't seen in a zone because of /role or /anon, you're delusional at best.
yaaaflow
03-07-2010, 08:00 AM
That wouldn't be very classic. Leave as is.
ssyrax82
03-07-2010, 08:32 AM
I /role simply because I'm a druid and it cuts down on the 1000000 tells you get an hour for ports and PLing... any other class I play I play without anon or role on.
Finawin
03-07-2010, 08:34 AM
Stealing camps isn't classic either but we've already learned that much haven't we?
Justice: 1
Terrible player Magicflow: 0
The argument of "it's not classic" holds no water when it's chosen arbitrarily sometimes and disregarded other times.
Not everything "classic" is good for the server and needs to be recreated.
yaaaflow
03-07-2010, 09:05 AM
If you want to talk about me trying to take over a camp when the server came down for a patch (which was a regular occurrence in classic and perfectly legal as we all know) don't shit up other threads about it, there is an appropriate thread to discuss that in rants and flames. The mere fact that a GM took two hours to determine his final course of action clearly shows that there was some validity to my claim on the camp. Irregardless, this isn't the thread for that junk.
In this case since as far as I am concerned there is simply no reason to deviate from classic (and infact they already made this change - when the server started you could see anon/role people by /w all <zone> and the powers that be deliberately changed it to mirror classic) I'm just giving my opinion, pal.
Zordana
03-07-2010, 09:10 AM
Anon and Role are the worst things to have ever happened to EQ (cept Luclin models).
then you obviously never played a cleric
Zordana
03-07-2010, 09:12 AM
My name is Jify (and/or Doug), and I /role.
hi jify!
Uaellaen
03-07-2010, 09:53 AM
no one has yet to say why they would go anon though.
lies i sayd i go anon to avoid 10000 rez tells on page1 !!
Aaron
03-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Anons annoy me when they're LFG anon.
/who all LFG:
[anon] Soandso <Zerg Guild>
etc.
Retarded really.
Also, when people /ooc for help with something and I can't see where they are, I'm likely to not help.
When people /auc WTB or WTS something, I always /who all them to see where they are. If they're anon I don't buy or sell with them because I don't want to waste my time running around trying to meet up with them in Lguk or something.
Hasbinbad
03-07-2010, 12:48 PM
It's about as big of a deal as inspecting people without asking them, and having them get angry about it.
AKA it shouldn't matter at all and people who get worked up over it are ridiculous.
This is the only reply that was necessary in this thread.
Sinlea
03-07-2010, 01:16 PM
Irregardless, this isn't the thread for that junk.
Magic... irregardless isn't a word! haha.
Murferoo
03-07-2010, 01:27 PM
I understand some people going anon, its needed sometimes. But to see SO MANY people anon is disheartening. I mean, how am I going to harrass you anon people for buffs? WTF? IT'S ALL ABOUT ME OK?
Ikeren
03-07-2010, 02:52 PM
I cleric'ed on live and never went anon; rezz/buff requests aren't such a big distraction/annoyance as you would think. Especially because on live I'd glibly answer "sure, for 10000pp" or "Give me a full earring of Solstice kit" or "For a windblade" and I'd occassionally get lucky.
The worst part about anon is when an entire zone in is anon, and you /who all zone, and it ends up camped.
The second worst part is having anon people ask you for something, because they're probably hiding the fact that the buff/rezz/port request is coming from a level 22 character 4000 zones away.
The third worst part of anon is having someone anon in the group that cons dark blue, but seems to be having some trouble doing damage/holding agro/etc. Then you find out they're ~10 levels low the the rest of the party.
I don't think it's awful, but it certainly is mildly annoying.
nalkin
03-07-2010, 03:39 PM
That wouldn't be very classic. Leave as is.
Neither are world-wide oocs but we have those. Finawin is right, you can't use the argument "it's classic" for some things and then disregard that argument when its unhelpful to your opinion.
I also agree that /anon people are stupid/annoying. The only people who I understand going anon are druids or clerics. But even then I would rather have a cleric say "no" to me or even never respond then to have it the way it is now with like 70% of the world anon.
Just the other day I was in LGUK and someone sent me a tell and said are you really the only one in LGUK? and I replied "no there are 23 other people here." I really do not understand /anon for non clerics or druids. Is it because people want to hide where they are camping? But if so, suppose someone does a /who all and thinks someone isn't camping that spot then they will go there and find that you are there anyway. So I only see anon it as a major inconvenience without any benefit.
It wouldn't bother me as much if you could see who was all in a zone even if they are anon. But would that defeat the purpose of /anon? I don't know because I don't even know what the benefit is. Maybe someone can clear it up for me.
utenan
03-07-2010, 04:01 PM
Nalkin pretty muched summed it up, its just a pain in the ass for everyone, theres no real point to anon
I go anon to hide from whiners like all of the people crying in this thread.
Alawen Everywhere
03-07-2010, 09:16 PM
I can't help noticing that none of the people offended by /role and /anon play a level 50 buff, port or rez class.
xblade724
03-08-2010, 04:23 AM
what's the big deal? i've gone anon a few times for various reasons and have pretty much instantly been called out for it..
who cares? I'm not doing it cause I think I'm cooler than everyone or something... seriously why do people care.
is it considered snobby?
It's disrespecting your guild. It's also suspicious. Why would you not want to represent your guild? Usually this means you are telling off people, being rude, stealing kills/camps/spawns, or training people. In other words, /anon usually means you are up to no good and even though you are anon doing it, you are still misrepresenting the guild.
A little trick I learned on rallos zek, type /guildstatus to see an anonymous person's guild.
Go /roleplay which makes you anon, but shows your guild tag. That's acceptable.
Zanth
03-08-2010, 06:03 AM
I /role sometimes because if I'm busy and having conversations with people I don't want to deal with constant port requests.
And all of you saying you won't port/talk to/trade with anon people must be antisocial babies. If they send you a tell you can type /r where you at?
Not that hard.
L2Phantom
03-08-2010, 06:56 AM
Anon gets its bad name from MacroQuest and hiding your guild tag.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Finawin
03-08-2010, 07:11 AM
I didn't trust anonymous people long before MQ showed up.
xblade724
03-08-2010, 07:28 AM
I also noticed a LOT of people are from the pvp servers of Zek.
As former Rallos Zek, I know that for years I'm used to not trusting people or be skeptical of those that are /anon as opposed to /role to hide your guild tag for one reason or another. Not generally to be PK'd, but for many other reasons - just you ask "Why would he want to hide his guild tag - suspicious"
Ghesta
03-08-2010, 07:50 AM
Anon and Role are the worst things to have ever happened to EQ (cept Luclin models).
I would be a happy happy person if /anon and /role were removed from the game.
Ghesta
03-08-2010, 07:53 AM
I /role sometimes because if I'm busy and having conversations with people I don't want to deal with constant port requests.
And all of you saying you won't port/talk to/trade with anon people must be antisocial babies. If they send you a tell you can type /r where you at?
Not that hard.
Speaking as someone who played a druid for 7 years on live and I don't think EVER used /role or /anon I can say this. /cope.
Lets count the keystrokes. "R" "spacebar" "n" "o" "enter" wow.... 5 keystrokes? No wonder you go /role. Yeah, I can totally understand.
/sarcasm off
As for the /r where you at. Yeah and then you get mad if you're in tells with someone and you get constant tells from other people? or if you're trying to solo heal frenzy and people are asking if you're near Sol B?
Hasbinbad
03-08-2010, 09:24 AM
I dont understand where you people get off thinking that you should be able to know where I am if I don't want to be found.
The fucking gall of some people.
Using anon is actually a good strategy and always will be, especially for high lvl raiding guilds. The nubs will never comprehend that because well they are obviously inferior. Why would they want you to know where they are, especially when they can have an advantage over you gear wise? And furthermore, if they don't want you to know where they are, that's their prerogative. Cry more noobs.
Aaron
03-08-2010, 10:12 AM
The nubs will never comprehend that because well they are obviously inferior. ....
Cry more noobs.
I agree. The people in this thread are a bunch of nobodies anyway, so who cares?
Let's go be awesome together.
Finawin
03-08-2010, 10:14 AM
It's cute. He thinks that a guild being anon will keep their location secret.
It's cute. He thinks that a guild being anon will keep their location secret.
Hey, if it didn't, your tears wouldn't be spilled all over this thread lol.
Lanor
03-08-2010, 02:18 PM
It's cute. He thinks that a guild being anon will keep their location secret.
It's cute. He thinks posting the same thing twice will make it true.
buffug
03-08-2010, 04:55 PM
The only real reason I can think of for RP/Anon (and i never use either) is because of players who plan poorly or play (and surround themselves with those who also play) poorly. Nobody (unless they are offering the services) wants to get spammed with:
need a port to <insert zone here>
need a rez in <insert zone here>
can you come to <insert city here> and bind me?
can you come to <insert zone here> and track for me?
will you summon me 2345623952836446 stacks of bandages?
NEED SOW!!!!
NEED DS!!!!
etc.
No, I'm not an elitist. No, I'm not saying that someone sucks because they need help with something once in a while...but if I see your carcass 30 places in a zone, you have problems that are not everyone else's burden to share. If you're a lvl 1 gnome looking for a port across the world, you don't have any business being over there yet.
President
03-08-2010, 05:15 PM
I know that people going /anon causes me to spam more.
If I /who all cleric 49 50 and there are 5 on and 4 are anon and I am trying to find a res, I have no clue what zone the 4 anon clerics are in. So, ill send them a message to see where they are or if they can res me.
If I do a /who all cleric 49 50 and none of the 5 are anon, and none of them are near where my corpse is, then I don't bother any of them!
Sirelk
03-08-2010, 06:09 PM
It's really stupid to go /anon or /rp on this server for the reason that "tired of getting requests for res's/ports/corpse summons/etc".
This is a small server, you will be found and you will be begged.
Just ignore the /tells and keep playing. Ya bunch of scared babies.
Hasbinbad
03-08-2010, 07:15 PM
It's cute. He thinks that a guild being anon will keep their location secret.
You're cute. You got a purdy mouth, boy.
L2Phantom
03-08-2010, 07:39 PM
You're cute. You got a purdy mouth, boy.
Not quite hick enough.
Mouth as Mouf* would've scored you an additional bowl of grits.
yaaaflow
03-08-2010, 10:33 PM
I know that people going /anon causes me to spam more.
If I /who all cleric 49 50 and there are 5 on and 4 are anon and I am trying to find a res, I have no clue what zone the 4 anon clerics are in. So, ill send them a message to see where they are or if they can res me.
If I do a /who all cleric 49 50 and none of the 5 are anon, and none of them are near where my corpse is, then I don't bother any of them!
whoa thats wild dude you have a different /who all command than me, cause when I /who all cleric 49 50 the anon/roleplay ones dont even show up for me.
President
03-08-2010, 10:37 PM
whoa thats wild dude you have a different /who all command than me, cause when I /who all cleric 49 50 the anon/roleplay ones dont even show up for me.
Maybe my /who is still bugged then. For a while before they made some changes I could see straight through /anon and /role (levels, class, zone, etc.).
Please don't fix this....
Aaron
03-08-2010, 10:38 PM
Maybe my /who is still bugged then. For a while before they made some changes I could see straight through /anon and /role (levels, class, zone, etc.).
Please don't fix this....
It seems that sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't for me.
Hasbinbad
03-09-2010, 01:38 AM
Not quite hick enough.
Mouth as Mouf* would've scored you an additional bowl of grits.
I'm not even kidding, the original had that. I decided against it. :P
stormlord
03-24-2010, 09:37 PM
I used them a lot on pvp servers, but never did on non-pvp. people who used them on non-pvp didn't bother me beyond the first pings of annoyance. instead I questioned my own reasons for not using anon/roleplay. i questioned our need to know everything. we're information addicted. the pings of annoyance went away.
anyway, after thinking about this for a while, i came to some conclusions...
and the trolling begins...
When I see item names in chat, i want a link that tells me the stats...
When I see an item link, I want it to tell me what monster it drops on and what the name is...
When I see an item link, I want to see which zone the monster that drops it is in...
When I see the item link, I want to see what level the monster is that drops the item....
When I click on an item link, I want to be able to click on a button that teleports me instantly to the area where the item drops...
When I click on an item link, just give me the item already by allowing me to click a button that says "get item" because camping the named is boring and unnecessary...
Get the picture?
When I am going through a zone, I want there to be landmarks so I know how to travel through the zone...
When I am gpoing through a zone, I want it to be small and simple so I know how to travel through the zone...
When I am going through a zone, i want a map of the zone printed out so I know how to travle through the zone...
When I am going through a zone, I want a map window so I know how to travel through the zone...
When I am going through a zone, I want the option to teleport to anywhere in the zone on the map window so I know how to travel through the zone...
When I am going throgh a zone, just put everything in one spot because i hate having to teleport to all of the spots so I know how to travel through the zone...
Get the picture?
Some things we work for, somethings we get free, and some people are never happy until they have everything and there's nothing left to do. I understand the pleas that some people have about needing to know some things without working for it, but when you drive this need to its ultimate completion, it's focused on the destination, not the journey. I believe the journey is the joy. If you do not enjoy the journey, the destination will never, ever make you happy. You will never be happy. You will always need and want.
a billion dollars won't make you happy. all the riches in the world mean nothing. max level won't make you happy. having all the knowledge of the universe won't make you happy unless you're happy without it.
I understand the frustration people feel when they /who all and get a bunch of anons. but for once in your life, sit back and think in non-reactionary terms. actually question your own self, have you ever done that?
Strossus
03-24-2010, 10:39 PM
/anon is in mmo games for a good reason...It is like when people get thier phone number unlisted,because of too many idiots calling them to buy magazine subscriptions.
Virtuosos
03-24-2010, 10:40 PM
easy mod =p just use alakazam lazy
Tallenn
03-25-2010, 08:28 AM
People just need to stfu and play like they want to play, and let other people play like they want to play.
Don't like people going /a? Fine, don't group with them, port them, rez them, or do business with then if you don't want to. That's your prerogative. I don't fault you for it at all. But people that want the devs to change the rules to force other people to do things the way THEY want them done just piss me off. People like that is what's wrong with this country.. errr, game.
Oh, and I rarely use them myself, because that's how I choose to play.
I've nearly always played anon on my toons, I played a ranger back on AB before I quit and became somewhat obsessed with making plats and killing oldworld mobs. The problem was other people did the same thing - being anon lowered the competition. If I know all the other people that are farming as soon as server comes up I can move through zones to targets much much faster.
Another reason I went anon (while guilded, I was in raiding guilds my whole 3-4ish years on AB) was because I simply wanted to do something without being bothered or being found. For example - raiding with friends in a different guild (doing content far below what we were currently farming so the lockouts didn't matter), or one grouping raid instances for augs or alts or something. Used to get told off all the time for that, apparently some people are under the delusion that being in a guild requires you to display your tag the entire time. 'Course the guild window on live shows your location when you're using /role and it makes your name purple & that bugged me :D so /anon it was!
People shouldn't use any argument that has to do with "you shouldn't be hiding from your guild mates". Sure, I'm guilded with them, but that doesn't require some sort of mystical bond that lets them know where I am and what i'm doing every second i'm logged in. Shit, I don't even have to like the majority of them in order to be guilded with them. If I've just finished a days work and want to chill out and buff people in crushbone rather than doing some long boring camp to twink a guildies alt that they can't solo, that's my choice. Anon helps avoid situations like that.
Scapula
03-25-2010, 09:19 AM
I'm so sick of Alcoholics Anonymous too. I mean really its bad enough that I'm court ordered to come here, but no body tells me who they really are? What if I need to get a ride home or borrow a cigarette? I cant just /who the club and find out who is or isn't a smoker? Right? That's just ridiculously elitist of them.
You got to wonder why their Anonymous too ya know. Surely they're up to something, if they don't share who their employer is then maybe there trying to steal your stuff right? Or even worse when one of the new ones gives you a call for a ride, you have no idea where they're at!
I'm so mad!
Goobles
03-25-2010, 09:23 AM
im /role all the time, to reduce the rez tells to ~100 a day ... sooo sue me!
You are found out sir! Tells inc!
Yiblaan
03-25-2010, 09:31 AM
im /role all the time, to reduce the rez tells to ~100 a day ... sooo sue me!
you'll be hearing from my lawyer shortly. :P
I wanna take this lawsuit up to the tribunal
mitic
03-25-2010, 10:14 AM
if someone wants to stay /anon so be it
this thread is one of those threads without any real content to discuss, 7 pages... geez
predator160
03-25-2010, 11:52 PM
what's the big deal? i've gone anon a few times for various reasons and have pretty much instantly been called out for it..
who cares? I'm not doing it cause I think I'm cooler than everyone or something... seriously why do people care.
is it considered snobby?
I do a /who all <zone>
no one is in the zone so my camp is open!
oh wait, when i get there its camped by /anon...great
gloam
03-26-2010, 12:30 AM
If im /role, i dont want to be bothered, and it cuts down on /tells from people who think I want to abandon my camp to come to thier camp and give them clarity every half hour. /role I get tells from one or two people who know who I am, not /role I get tells from half the zone. I can understand it sucks to run half way across the world and find your camp is taken, but its not like that dosnt happen to everyone sooner or later, but you half hour lost isnt any worse than me having to put up with people sending /tells for buffs at annoying rates for several hours, thus, I have no issues with the fact that if im /role, it might not work in someone elses best interest.
Hasbinbad
03-26-2010, 05:54 AM
Having all the knowledge of the universe won't make you happy unless you're happy without it.
I don't have anything new to say here, just thought I would quote this guy for brilliance.
Tallenn
03-26-2010, 08:29 AM
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that /w all <zone> didn't work at all in classic- anon or not. (except of course the zone you are currently in)
Nedala
03-26-2010, 09:07 PM
it worked if i remember right.
Swindle
03-28-2010, 12:18 PM
I'm fine with ANON. I won't ask for help unless I see someone /OOC an offer to help. Seems to me that if you just showed the number of people in a zone when you do a /Who all from outside that zone would do the trick.
If I know there's 23 folks in LGUK I wouldn't make the trip from Erudin.
DeathByCactus
03-28-2010, 02:29 PM
Feel free to go /ano or /role but DONT expect me to answer you when you ask for tp since I have NO clue where you are, who you are or nothing so then WHY should I move from my camp and TP you when you ask me???
Offering me 20-30pp for 10-15 min of my exping time to TP a /ano or /role person isnt anything for me............ thats what boring people can do.
If you go /ano or /role fine do that but dont bother me whit some TP questions since I dont care you are just a /ano person I dont know anything about.
I have never answered a /ano or /role person who sent me a tell if they didnt stand behind me and why should I when I dont know where you are?
I always try to help out low lvl or none /ano-/role people when I can and have time but I dont like hiden people since I have spent to much time traveling to zones and just find out its like 5+ /ano people in the zon that I was trying to camp something in...........I just hate it and thats why I have stopped to answer tells from them. If they will be MR ano and nobody its up to them.
My new rules is if they go ano TP will cost 500pp.......... :-)
What a idiot. You know who they are, their name is right there on the list. Who cares what level or class they are it doesn't matter.
I hate bluebies, crybabies, and whiners. I use /role, reason being? Some dike thought it was funny to follow me around and train me, since the GM's do nothing I use /role.
Gorgetrapper
03-28-2010, 03:37 PM
I hate bluebies, crybabies, and whiners. I use /role, reason being? Some dike thought it was funny to follow me around and train me, since the GM's do nothing I use /role.
Go back to tz/vz then.
Akame
05-13-2010, 06:42 PM
I just got a ten minute lecture from someone for being anon, seriously? I prefer a purple name, it's not that big of a deal and really rude to be talked down to about how I'm not helping others grouping and checking camps because they don't know what zone i'm in. I'm rude if I don't help them be lazy.
Yellow
05-13-2010, 06:43 PM
World Of Warcraft (WoW)
rioisk
05-13-2010, 07:53 PM
So I assume everybody here is okay with the patriot act or the US government keeping tabs on you? That makes perfect sense - big brother watches out for us. If people try to hide from big brother they must be up to something? Punish those who hide!
Guys, seriously, let people do what they want. It's a game for christ sake.
Weekapaug
05-13-2010, 07:56 PM
I dont understand where you people get off thinking that you should be able to know where I am if I don't want to be found.
The fucking gall of some people.
Totally.
I was anon for about an hour earlier and had people pestering me about it.
If I'm in your group or guild and I'm actually *doing* something that's an actual problem for the group or guild (as in a real problem, not whiney asshats getting their pink undies in a wad and purporting to tell others they can't be /anon or /role), then call me out on it, by all means. Like Spicoli said to Mr. Hand....When we are together, it's OUR time. Knock yourself out.
But when I'm off doing something on my own on MY time, whatever the hell it may be, I might go /anon or /role and I don't have to (nor will I) offer any justification for it other than I fucking feel like it.
The balls on some people never cease to amaze.
Nedala
05-13-2010, 08:24 PM
Its your own problem.
As a lowbie who is anon or role it will be harder for you to:
-find grps
-find ports
-find rezzes
-find buyers on anything you sell
and also you minimize your chance on some nice gifts.
If this is worth it for you, go ahead.
I just got a ten minute lecture from someone for being anon, seriously? I prefer a purple name, it's not that big of a deal and really rude to be talked down to about how I'm not helping others grouping and checking camps because they don't know what zone i'm in. I'm rude if I don't help them be lazy.
Well i was just trying to explain you, you make your own life harder.
Look you were asking why your med skill always resets. I did /who all "you" and saw your anon. Mostly i would just decide not to answer your question because of that.
If you werent anon i would see youre , for example, a lvl 6 cleric. I would have told you "you can train meditate at lvl 8". But when i see your anon/role i just dont gonna ask you what lvl and class you are, i just leave you with your question.
Same thing for ports. I read ooc cause im bored. Someone asks for a port. I do a /who, i see this guy is a low level so i decide to port him for free. If i see the guy is anon...i wont port him, not because im mad hes anon but just because im not gonna send him a tell "what lvl are you" and he might response "lvl 40" and then i say "oh sorry, too high for free ports"...
I totally understand when higher levels especially clerics and druids go anon/role but where is the point for lvl 5s to go role/anon? you just make your own life harder.
And if the reason is because you like purple more...i tell you its not worth it.
Weekapaug
05-13-2010, 09:29 PM
Its your own problem.
As a lowbie who is anon or role it will be harder for you to:
-find grps
-find ports
-find rezzes
-find buyers on anything you sell
and also you minimize your chance on some nice gifts.
If this is worth it for you, go ahead.
I totally understand when higher levels especially clerics and druids go anon/role but where is the point for lvl 5s to go role/anon? you just make your own life harder.
It's not like turning in your Book of Discord or something. It's /anon...a temporary conditon, ffs. Anyone who can handle actually playing EQ, probably has a handle on the appropriate times to use it or not use it.
When someone is sitting at a camp, working on tradeskills, windowed out lookinh at porn, or just feeling like being anon, they aren't necessarily doing a trade or are in need of a port or rez are they? And with the stroke of several keys, they can be un-anon can't they? How difficult a concept is that to grasp? It's not, unless you are veiling a need for telling other people what to do and sticking your nose in their business with concern for newbies.
Arguments like this is what I find so galling in these discussions....for 11 freaking years. I will fully conceed that there are many reasons why one would not want to be /anon at certain times, but people who are against it generally never conceed that there are legitimate uses of /anon or they have to have some golden reason why someone would need to do it. You don't. It's none of your damned business if they are anon or not or why. Let them worry about it. Honestly, I find the level of concern that some people have for this a tad manipulative and, frankly, kind of creepy.
Weather you port them or not is up to you. They probably won't care if you don't. They probably particularly wont care if you don't and they find out you are so petty as to worry about weather they are anon or not. Especially when you can't throw a rock without hitting 3 druids.
If anyone ever refused to do a trade with me because I was anon, I would laugh in their face and nominate them for Shithead of The Year.
Seriously, why don't we all concern ourselves with something that actually matters to newbies, beyond free advice, gear hookups and ports conditional on being /anon or not. It's petty as all hell. Like aggro control being a group effort. I've grouped with like 4 people under level 20 who got that memo and, frankly, the worst of them are often the ones that claimed to have left for WoW during the awful terrible Luclin and PoP eras because "things got too easy." Ponder the irony of that for a moment. Or the fact that just because you can play a mage, doesn't mean you have any clue about how to play whatever class it was you twinked with the mage...Particularly twinked bards and enchanters. Maybe we might not almost wipe every other pull. I've run into like 2 of those who weren't a detriment to themselves and others every other moment in a group. I'd love to see an 8 page thread about all of that.
There's an old expression: Don't sweat the small stuff. /anon and /role are about as small as it gets.
Tallenn
05-13-2010, 09:55 PM
I sometimes go anon just because I know it gives some people hissy fits.
WHO ARE YOU???
WHERE ARE YOU???
WHAT IS YOUR CLASS AND LEVEL???
IT DRIVES ME NUTS NOT KNOWING!!!
PAPERS PLEASE!!!
Akame
05-14-2010, 01:31 AM
Its your own problem.
As a lowbie who is anon or role it will be harder for you to:
-find grps
-find ports
-find rezzes
-find buyers on anything you sell
and also you minimize your chance on some nice gifts.
If this is worth it for you, go ahead.
Well i was just trying to explain you, you make your own life harder.
Look you were asking why your med skill always resets. I did /who all "you" and saw your anon. Mostly i would just decide not to answer your question because of that.
If you werent anon i would see youre , for example, a lvl 6 cleric. I would have told you "you can train meditate at lvl 8". But when i see your anon/role i just dont gonna ask you what lvl and class you are, i just leave you with your question.
Same thing for ports. I read ooc cause im bored. Someone asks for a port. I do a /who, i see this guy is a low level so i decide to port him for free. If i see the guy is anon...i wont port him, not because im mad hes anon but just because im not gonna send him a tell "what lvl are you" and he might response "lvl 40" and then i say "oh sorry, too high for free ports"...
I totally understand when higher levels especially clerics and druids go anon/role but where is the point for lvl 5s to go role/anon? you just make your own life harder.
And if the reason is because you like purple more...i tell you its not worth it.
I get the gist of your reasoning but it's still rather presumptuous to expect people to not be anon for someone else's benefit. Voice chat and such prompts people to be lazy with their text, and while I know that not everyone types as fast as I do, I still find it hard to believe someone has an issue with sending someone a tell asking their level. It's just the life of the game, and trying to twist that, even if it is "for everyone's benefit" is just going to frustrate you in the long run and piss off everyone else you are trying to enlighten.
Omnimorph
05-14-2010, 06:41 AM
As an enchanter with a blue robe graphic that is pretty much limited to enchanters, and a big golden rod (for the ladies), /anon only does so much good :p if you see me, you know me.
If you hail me, i clarity you. Then i see if you wanted something else.
Admittedly it does piss me off when i get a tell from some group who says they'll give me 50p if i run to oasis to C their group. Casting C on someone who asks for it, fine, telling someone where i am for them to come get C from me, fine, asking me to leave the zone I'm in and go on a massive trek to buff your group? /anon on.
Bruman
05-14-2010, 08:45 AM
As an enchanter with a blue robe graphic that is pretty much limited to enchanters, and a big golden rod (for the ladies), /anon only does so much good :p if you see me, you know me.
If you hail me, i clarity you. Then i see if you wanted something else.
Admittedly it does piss me off when i get a tell from some group who says they'll give me 50p if i run to oasis to C their group. Casting C on someone who asks for it, fine, telling someone where i am for them to come get C from me, fine, asking me to leave the zone I'm in and go on a massive trek to buff your group? /anon on.
I guess I don't see why that pisses you off. Just say "no thanks"? I mean, they're offering to pay you for their time, which may be a decent amount of pp for them, and they don't know if you're currently busy or not. Seems like they're trying to be polite.
Anyways, I never ask people in other zones to do anything for me. If I've died, I'll ask for a SoW for a CR in the zone I'm in through the shout channel, and if noone responds, then that's that. When I get higher and clerics have rez, if there's one around the area that I know, I might see if I can get my corpse dragged to them and ask them if they mind, but that's probably as far as I'd go.
For me the anon thing is just annoying, as other people have said, for trying to find out who all is in a zone for LFG purposes - whether my group is trying to recruit or I'm thinking of zone hopping. It's not the end of the world though if you get there and it's packed. I think EQ is a much more enjoyable game if you just sit back and relax...because well...that translocator isn't going to pop up any sooner anyways.
km2783
05-14-2010, 11:47 AM
I really can't believe there is a 9 page thread about this.
LFG people need to learn to turn anon or role OFF. Other than that, I really don't care one way or another whether people are anon/role or not.
Malrubius
05-14-2010, 01:02 PM
I really can't believe there is a 9 page thread about this.
LFG people need to learn to turn anon or role OFF. Other than that, I really don't care one way or another whether people are anon/role or not.
^this. But I think there is a 9-page thread because you, me, and everybody else, is at work/school/wherever, and wishing they were playing instead :p
eqdruid76
05-14-2010, 01:04 PM
A druid pretty much HAS to turn on /anon, otherwise they are constantly bombarded with tells from complete strangers calling them "bro", asking for ports, binds, buffs, powerlevelling....you know, the same complete strangers that will refuse to let the druid in their Karnor's group....
Volga
05-14-2010, 01:27 PM
I'm not sure how the raiding scene is here but isn't going anon or role a tactic to prevent other guilds from basing zone timers off your raid attendance?
km2783
05-14-2010, 02:11 PM
^this. But I think there is a 9-page thread because you, me, and everybody else, is at work/school/wherever, and wishing they were playing instead :p
this has a possibility of being correct. It's slow today :D
A druid pretty much HAS to turn on /anon, otherwise they are constantly bombarded with tells from complete strangers calling them "bro", asking for ports, binds, buffs, powerlevelling....you know, the same complete strangers that will refuse to let the druid in their Karnor's group....
I see this a lot, and wonder if I'm one of few people that goes TO a druid ring or zone with druid and wizzy teleports, and THEN ask around for a port.
SpartanEQ
05-14-2010, 02:31 PM
Too bad there isn't a /busy command that blocks tels and auto-responds with a message.
/busy Sorry, I can't come to the rings right now. Please use the translocator.
No need to go anon. You don't get bothered in tels while it's on. Everyone is happy. Of course it doesn't exist, so nevermind.
Bruman
05-14-2010, 02:47 PM
raiding scene here
oh god
Akame
05-14-2010, 04:00 PM
Too bad there isn't a /busy command that blocks tels and auto-responds with a message.
/busy Sorry, I can't come to the rings right now. Please use the translocator.
No need to go anon. You don't get bothered in tels while it's on. Everyone is happy. Of course it doesn't exist, so nevermind.
Unless it isn't activated in classic you should be able to do this with your AFK message, we used to do it when we were raiding, sometimes for raid instructions and sometimes to let people know we weren't available to talk.
Yoite
05-14-2010, 05:50 PM
ya just put your message after afk
example: /afk smoking be back in 5mins
and when someone tells you it comes back to them something like "Soandso is current AWAY FROM KEYBOARD "smoking be back in 5mins"
SpartanEQ
05-14-2010, 07:03 PM
ya just put your message after afk
example: /afk smoking be back in 5mins
and when someone tells you it comes back to them something like "Soandso is current AWAY FROM KEYBOARD "smoking be back in 5mins"
You still see the message though, so you'd still get "bothered" by it. I meant that you wouldn't even see the message if you were /busy.
toddfx
05-14-2010, 07:24 PM
Oddly enough I like to keep my alts private, so if I am talking about something that relates to an alt, I sometimes turn on anon for a few minutes (as if anybody cares, or would have any way of knowing :cool: ). That's honestly the only instance I see any reason for myself to go anon.
The only thing that pisses me off about people going anon is when they're selling items and do not list their location in the auction. When that is the case, half the time they're located in some obscure location like Oggok and then act like you're the one at fault for not wanting to travel.
eqdruid76
05-15-2010, 10:10 AM
This is just another example of people bitching about something that contributed to them quitting live. Problem is that it's always been part of the game. Like it or not, /anon is in, and no 38 year-old tubbo with psoriasis is going to tell me what keys I can or can't push in a free emulator. Elbow and send.
Shawk
05-15-2010, 02:50 PM
Anon = Necro
Nedala
05-15-2010, 02:59 PM
Anon = Necro
that makes completely sense!
zahlia
05-17-2010, 09:22 PM
NiNiK is almost always /role. Oddly, it's not because I roleplay that character, though I do! It's because if Brutillus can see what zone she's in, he will show up and eat her. :(
--zahlia, inky enc
--NiNiK, gnomish cleric of mischief (and cookies)
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