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JoFo23
07-30-2021, 02:12 PM
Ok boys and girl, I actually talked another person into starting p99. He's never played eq before but mechanically I think he will like it. He's a fan of old school runescape so he's no stranger to old games and bad graphics tradeoff for fun (to him) gameplay.
I've only had luck getting friends to play p99 that previously play eq back in the day with me and never a total noob like my little brother. Looking for advice on how to help get him hooked. I'm set on not twinking a lot but I'm not sure if zero twinking is best. I'll let him pick whatever class he wants and I'll pick second. I'll try to let him lead the adventures and just answer questions as he thi ks of them. Stuff like that.
Anyone have succes bringing in somebody totally new to eq? Is there any hope he stays or is the game just to old and my nostalgia is blinding me?
Gustoo
07-30-2021, 02:29 PM
No success here either.
Choosing a fun starting city that lets you both choose your class is the best.
Try to explore with him and forget about the boundaries of the world as you know it. Let greater faydark be a big forest where the boundaries are absolutely unknown. Be scared of NPC's and /con them all the time and ask him if you think you can handle the monster, ETC.
I would choose based on the starting zone area you think could be most fun for him.
I really like faydwer overall, kaladim, kelethin and felwithe is such a nice place to run around. Plus akanon.
Rivervale is great till you max out at the goblin camps and either have to go into runnyeye or go to west commons or something for further progression. I don't enjoy the commonlands and desert of ro nearly as much as I enjoy the low mid level stuff in faydwer.
So yeah just choose a nice starting place and lean into it, explore, learn about quests by /hail on NPC's and follow dead ends and stuff. If you cut to the chase on efficient leveling up and stuff I think you will have less fun. Don't like drag him to known good spots, you gotta find good spots by looking around and stuff.
For some reason I think a hybrid melee is a great way to start. When you're a noob you want to be able to care about and use swords and stuff, but you also want to have access to spells because, Duh, spells are cool.
Once you know what you're doing you want the efficiency of a caster but I think hacking away at orcs the traditional style with regular melee attacks is rewarding.
Maybe an iksar monk would be a high reccomend from me, and you play an iksar shaman and you do the kunark path. Lots of functional quests, lots of items to find along the way and good lore.
Depends if he wants to be a lizard or an elf too.
eqravenprince
07-30-2021, 02:32 PM
If he truly likes older games, then EQ will be awesome. Some twinking would be good. If I were you, I'd play a druid, awesome in just about any duo and serves as an amazing tour guide. I've started up with several complete newbs to EQ, best I can say is adventure to new places a lot, all of them got bored just camping 1 spot for hours/days on end.
ScottBerta
07-30-2021, 03:58 PM
Shaman or enc are great duo classes, can go effectively with almost anything. Make sure to have him pick something with spell casting. Like if he wants to tank have him play sk/pal. I think this will make game a bit more fun than just pressing attack and occasional kick, spam, bash, taunt.
blindedsoul
07-30-2021, 05:20 PM
Make a couple necro's imo and just mow stuff imo ^ ^, can easily guide on what gear / skills to use and go everywhere together + the class is highly efficient early solo which lets be honest early game is not the fastest on EQ and helps to smooth that out.
+ the class really needs no gear, has lots of stuff to manage to keep active, gets FD and gets invis early
Gustoo
07-30-2021, 06:48 PM
Both of you make iksar necros and just win the game.
Good strategy.
Lurgort/Sseri
07-30-2021, 07:00 PM
Shaman + Monk
Enchanter + Cleric
Bard + Wizard
Iksar Necro + Iksar Necro
Gustoo
07-30-2021, 07:17 PM
Shaman + Monk
Enchanter + Cleric
Bard + Wizard
Iksar Necro + Iksar Necro
This guy knows how to play EQ
Philistine
07-30-2021, 10:19 PM
Ok boys and girl, I actually talked another person into starting p99. He's never played eq before but mechanically I think he will like it. He's a fan of old school runescape so he's no stranger to old games and bad graphics tradeoff for fun (to him) gameplay.
I've only had luck getting friends to play p99 that previously play eq back in the day with me and never a total noob like my little brother. Looking for advice on how to help get him hooked. I'm set on not twinking a lot but I'm not sure if zero twinking is best. I'll let him pick whatever class he wants and I'll pick second. I'll try to let him lead the adventures and just answer questions as he thi ks of them. Stuff like that.
Anyone have succes bringing in somebody totally new to eq? Is there any hope he stays or is the game just to old and my nostalgia is blinding me?
I suggest giving him some twinkage; enough for the early levels to not be 100% a drag. I had a buddy join who HAD played OG EQ and was set on not thinking us until level 10...he quit at level 5 or 6.
Stonewallx39
07-31-2021, 07:49 AM
I think the early level struggle is key to setting the context of the world of EQ. That being said it can be a tad slow especially when it’s not a new server where the struggle is universal.
One way I’ve twinked myself is by filling a couple bags with the gear then doing a /ran 16 ( decreasing by one) each level and then equipping the item in that bag slot. Makes each level a jolt of excitement. Some levels you get a game changing item (new weapon or haste) and others it’s less powerful but still fun.
Stonewallx39
07-31-2021, 08:06 AM
I’d also recommend having him read as much of the wiki as possible, especially anything lore related. The world of Everquest is really what hooked so many of us (lord knows it is t the gameplay mechanics). There is a lot of great content on there that can help set the stage for the history of eq. There are also some good videos on YouTube you could point him to as wel.
Valrok
07-31-2021, 09:21 AM
Don't twink him a ton...set him up with some starting gear though for sure. If he is a plate wearer , get him some very low-end plate (Bronze, fine steel ) and let him work from there. That way he likes the way his character looks, can take a beating , and still have tons of room to grow.
JoFo23
07-31-2021, 09:52 AM
I like all the ways to slowly twink unless we go double caster then no need really. Every few levels give one piece sounds fun. A good way to keep the carrot dangling in front. Depends on what he wants to play mostly. Only class I might discourage at the beginning is warrior.
dcortez
08-01-2021, 09:09 PM
Have tried bringing two people in, they didn't care for it. They will never know what they are missing.
Philistine
08-01-2021, 10:25 PM
I think the early level struggle is key to setting the context of the world of EQ. That being said it can be a tad slow especially when it’s not a new server where the struggle is universal.
One way I’ve twinked myself is by filling a couple bags with the gear then doing a /ran 16 ( decreasing by one) each level and then equipping the item in that bag slot. Makes each level a jolt of excitement. Some levels you get a game changing item (new weapon or haste) and others it’s less powerful but still fun.
This is a fun idea! I might do that next time I create a toon from scratch
Snaggles
08-01-2021, 11:53 PM
There are ways to make it easy, as if it is “fun” to you both that is a different question. EQ can be exceptionally slow and boring even if one is used to WoW let alone modern games. I’d also pick two of the same race or at least fairly close starting areas and the same alignment (probably good, if mixing and matching).
If really torn figure out who will likely get bored first and make sure they get their pick of the “fun” class and find another that works well with that one. Maybe a couple pet classes since gear is less important, especially if duoing.
Arvan
08-02-2021, 12:52 AM
Eq sucks - people still play cause its social
ScottBerta
08-04-2021, 01:07 AM
I think the early level struggle is key to setting the context of the world of EQ. That being said it can be a tad slow especially when it’s not a new server where the struggle is universal.
One way I’ve twinked myself is by filling a couple bags with the gear then doing a /ran 16 ( decreasing by one) each level and then equipping the item in that bag slot. Makes each level a jolt of excitement. Some levels you get a game changing item (new weapon or haste) and others it’s less powerful but still fun.
That sounds kind of cool. I also considered doing the /ran for class and race. Something to add a bit of excitement and drama.
Toxigen
08-04-2021, 05:03 AM
Ok boys and girl, I actually talked another person into starting p99. He's never played eq before but mechanically I think he will like it. He's a fan of old school runescape so he's no stranger to old games and bad graphics tradeoff for fun (to him) gameplay.
I've only had luck getting friends to play p99 that previously play eq back in the day with me and never a total noob like my little brother. Looking for advice on how to help get him hooked. I'm set on not twinking a lot but I'm not sure if zero twinking is best. I'll let him pick whatever class he wants and I'll pick second. I'll try to let him lead the adventures and just answer questions as he thi ks of them. Stuff like that.
Anyone have succes bringing in somebody totally new to eq? Is there any hope he stays or is the game just to old and my nostalgia is blinding me?
If he wants to play a melee, just have him go monk. There really isn't a better option in a starter duo setup. Of course you'll be forced into playing a shaman but its one of the safest, strongest duos in the game. You cannot go wrong if you don't have a shaman in your stable of characters yet.
If he wants to be a caster you have some options. I'm a huge fan of necro + enchanter...I think its probably the strongest XP duo in the game (outside of dumb shit like bard + wizard where you just kite all day).
If he isn't going to be the most competent / attentive player and is OK with a more passive role throw him on a cleric and do all the work on as an enchanter.
Daffan
08-04-2021, 05:33 AM
Ok boys and girl, I actually talked another person into starting p99. He's never played eq before but mechanically I think he will like it. He's a fan of old school runescape so he's no stranger to old games and bad graphics tradeoff for fun (to him) gameplay.
I've only had luck getting friends to play p99 that previously play eq back in the day with me and never a total noob like my little brother. Looking for advice on how to help get him hooked. I'm set on not twinking a lot but I'm not sure if zero twinking is best. I'll let him pick whatever class he wants and I'll pick second. I'll try to let him lead the adventures and just answer questions as he thi ks of them. Stuff like that.
Anyone have succes bringing in somebody totally new to eq? Is there any hope he stays or is the game just to old and my nostalgia is blinding me?
At least use the 2 graphic mods on the p99 wiki.
If u play green server with horrid client... than it might be hard to like. But green is p.cool for new player compared to old worn out blue.
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