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Gravydoo II
07-22-2021, 11:35 AM
Come get looted. Make stuff. Steal stuff. Just leave this dump. EQ is over.

Toxigen
07-22-2021, 12:22 PM
wish asherons call was still around

Ooloo
07-22-2021, 01:30 PM
I play on UO second age which is just vanilla UO second age era, but nobody plays anymore :( I still log in to refresh my keeps because sunk costs

Bardp1999
07-22-2021, 01:40 PM
I play on UO second age which is just vanilla UO second age era, but nobody plays anymore :( I still log in to refresh my keeps because sunk costs

I played on a couple emulated UO servers over the years and I havnt ever got one that kept my attention more than a few months. Long time Great Lakes player here

Gravydoo II
07-22-2021, 02:13 PM
Outlands. Give it a looksie.

Ooloo
07-22-2021, 02:41 PM
I played on a couple emulated UO servers over the years and I havnt ever got one that kept my attention more than a few months. Long time Great Lakes player here

Yeah I like second age cause it's just classic vanilla UO, but with such a low pop it's just depressing to play :(

Meanwhile there are custom servers with actual populations but i hate all the neon beetles and weird lizard mounts and people's awful custom house designs all over the place. A vanilla server with a pop around 1000 would be amazing but that's never gonna happen sadly.

Listening to UO midi music on youtube right now for ultimate nostalgia feels

Gravydoo II
07-22-2021, 10:46 PM
But OSI had neon hair, neon robes, the light bulb stick, nightmares, kirins, etc.. The fact that your comp will freeze running across ice when you hit a keep or castle. It was always there, we just chose to ignore it. The flags on peoples roofs made of cloth arrangements, etc.

Outlands. Its not like, OSI. Its better.

Ooloo
07-23-2021, 06:53 AM
I think some of that stuff was post-second age. Kirins at least. Nightmares I'm down with, it's just a cool dark horse, not a wacky space lizard. Neon hair and neon robes I think are post second age. That true black dyetub hack that they allowed to remain in game was kind of terrible though.

But I'm totally down to give outlands a shot I've heard good things.

Gravydoo II
07-23-2021, 03:58 PM
Join outlands, its a blast

Tunabros
07-23-2021, 03:59 PM
i have no clue wtf i am doing on ultima online

Bardp1999
10-01-2021, 12:26 AM
Started playing this UO Outlands today - really fun so far. Most like UO:2 I could imagine, its similar enough and different enough that I think it has a actual chance of keeping me playing

Mblake1981
10-01-2021, 05:04 AM
Piss off.

Homesteaded
10-01-2021, 08:39 AM
UO is trash, just like the opinions of OP.

starkind
10-01-2021, 08:49 AM
Why is UO so good in 2021? I don't want to hear why it was so cool 1998.

Gravydoo II
10-01-2021, 08:58 AM
Come play it and find out. uo outlands!

I'm in a guild for new players. I like to help the noobs.

Mesocyclone
10-01-2021, 09:02 AM
UO sucks and so did AC

Gravydoo II
10-01-2021, 09:13 AM
One word.

Aspect.

https://uooutlands.com/wiki/Aspect_Mastery

Toxigen
10-01-2021, 10:24 AM
UO sucks and so did AC

nah AC is the best game ever made

hope this helps

Mesocyclone
10-01-2021, 10:45 AM
p99 is the best game ever made hope this helps

AC didn't have 3D paperdoll on chars and even mobs (weapons)

Mblake1981
10-01-2021, 10:45 AM
nah AC is the best game ever made

hope this helps

It's so good that its hardcore fans waste their time on an EQ board.

hope that helps.

Mesocyclone
10-01-2021, 10:49 AM
i'm in between 27 minute spawns waiting on a 1 in 1000 rare that shows on the named on the best game ever p99. hope this helps

starkind
10-01-2021, 12:27 PM
Ac game mechanics + eq zones = perfect

Bardp1999
10-01-2021, 07:49 PM
Bunch of fat angry nerds in this thread. Enjoying some Outland, enjoy the Hole (hEhehH)

Mblake1981
10-01-2021, 08:04 PM
itt: fat angry nerds on an eq board.

chins undulating at the thought of having more fun elsewhere so they come here to share.

manage to blubber "Thanks bro" and give a thumbs up but you can't tell if its a thumb or a large pork rind.

Bardp1999
10-02-2021, 07:07 PM
Gravydoo - hook me up bro

starkind
10-02-2021, 08:30 PM
Aspects seem cool And confusing.

Ooloo
10-02-2021, 10:27 PM
UO was amazing pre-second age, back before they allowed you to ban people from your house and things like that. Originally, if you owned a house you had two keys for the front door. And you could copy them, but that was all the control you had. You had to fuckin watch your back at all times, because if somebody killed you and looted your key, and knew where your house was, all your shit was gone. So many epic moments looting large houses and towers, with various factions fighting over them. Sigh... I miss that.

That was back when "Dread Lord" was the worst possible title, prior to "Murderer".

starkind
10-02-2021, 10:47 PM
UO was amazing pre-second age, back before they allowed you to ban people from your house and things like that. Originally, if you owned a house you had two keys for the front door. And you could copy them, but that was all the control you had. You had to fuckin watch your back at all times, because if somebody killed you and looted your key, and knew where your house was, all your shit was gone. So many epic moments looting large houses and towers, with various factions fighting over them. Sigh... I miss that.

That was back when "Dread Lord" was the worst possible title, prior to "Murderer".

Why isn't there a crime simulation mmo.

Tunabros
10-03-2021, 01:08 AM
always wanted to try UO

but have zero on how to play, what to do, and what I'm doing

the PVP on UO looks fun though

Bardp1999
10-03-2021, 02:03 AM
Outlands is a custom UO map - and that is for the best as it makes the world smaller and allows for modern knowledge to make a more "classic" world - Feels like the P99 version of UO to be honest. I am really enjoying it.

Its dumbed down to basic classic UO mechanics but also has some custom flare to keep people playing long term. Very good shard. Its like what we want P99 to do but they refuse (some custom content but basic EQ without the complications of all the insane expansions).

I made a dexxer mace/bard and have amassed about 40k in a couple of days. Started my miner today and going to get my crafter going next. Long term goal of a Mage/Tamer for end game content

starkind
10-03-2021, 07:14 AM
I made a dexxer mace/bard and have amassed about 40k in a couple of days. Started my miner today and going to get my crafter going next. Long term goal of a Mage/Tamer for end game content

I too spend all my waking ours mining virtual cobble.

Ooloo
10-03-2021, 10:29 AM
Smithing in UO was fun as hell. I made a full suit of GM valorite that I'd just put on to walk around town in. My 14 year old self felt quite badass.

Ooloo
10-03-2021, 10:32 AM
always wanted to try UO

but have zero on how to play, what to do, and what I'm doing

the PVP on UO looks fun though

There are no levels like EQ. Basically you can have 700 total skill points, and any character can train any skill. So you can have any seven skills at 100 (the max for each skill).

Then you just travel the world killing monsters and other people and taking all their shit, and hopefully you find room to place a house, then you horde the shit in your house. This is UO.

jolanar
10-03-2021, 11:18 AM
Outlands is just meh. The new map was fun for a while but it quickly devolved into the same problem every other server has.

Everyones a tamer because it's stupid overpowered compared to other specs. And it's all wolves and no sheep. You spend the entire time avoiding conflict because people run around in teams on coms with perfect specs that have been playing UO literally for the last 20 years non stop, so don't stand a chance fighting back.

I don't want another taming simulator with roving gangs of reds aiming to ruin your day.

Ooloo
10-03-2021, 11:34 AM
Yeah taming is insanely overpowered, even just provo is pretty ridiculous pvm wise.

You definitely have to roll with a crew, if you go it alone you don't stand a chance against reds.

alphys
10-03-2021, 08:23 PM
Asherons call OG UA lol. Harming others and running with no speed at lvl 1.

Vassals PLing your side builds was great. Before secure trading you could legit steal stuff constantly. It was incredible.

Gravydoo II
10-04-2021, 09:08 PM
Its easy to shift the balance of power. Use more people. Summoners are also pretty powerful if you get 120 spirit speak. I got taste id, eldritch, exceedingly book and cast flame strike 10x in a row some times.

Bardp1999
10-07-2021, 10:37 PM
Outlands server is really fun - It's classic UO with changes that make sense - smaller map, custom dungeons, reduced skill options (good), enhancing skills to make more builds viable besides everyone being a tamer/mage. Imagine if EQ gave wizards clarity, let enchanters ONLY charm humanoids, Druids animals, Necros undead, and gave all hybrid tanks Defensive, and also remove all the stupid restrictions Bards have late game.

The balance is fantastic and the people running the server have essentially made UO2

IE fix the obvious fuck ups that the original staff made or couldn't see because of emergent game play.

The revolution is here, come play - I have only been PKed 1 time in a week of playing and the focus of the servers awesome custom systems are PVM oriented while allowing people to still be piece of shit PVP killers if they choose. But by in large the server seems PVM because they offer other outlets for real PVP via tournaments, guild wars, and town invasions so its not just 10,000 reds ruling every dungeon.

im shocked how good UO is in 2021 on this server and I'm barely scratching the surface.

Tunabros
10-07-2021, 10:43 PM
what do you even do in outlands tho

is it like runescape where you just do whatever?

Bardp1999
10-07-2021, 11:02 PM
what do you even do in outlands tho

is it like runescape where you just do whatever?

Its the only true "open world" RPG I have ever known - its hard to even describe and can be daunting to try to take all in, but at least Outlands minimizes some of that and makes it more manageable to get into.

Its 1000% more involved than EQ - its more like Minecraft in a weird way (i have not actually ever played Minecraft just seen my nephews but I know the concept)

jolanar
10-08-2021, 06:31 AM
Outlands server is really fun - It's classic UO with changes that make sense - smaller map, custom dungeons, reduced skill options (good), enhancing skills to make more builds viable besides everyone being a tamer/mage. Imagine if EQ gave wizards clarity, let enchanters ONLY charm humanoids, Druids animals, Necros undead, and gave all hybrid tanks Defensive, and also remove all the stupid restrictions Bards have late game.

The balance is fantastic and the people running the server have essentially made UO2

IE fix the obvious fuck ups that the original staff made or couldn't see because of emergent game play.

The revolution is here, come play - I have only been PKed 1 time in a week of playing and the focus of the servers awesome custom systems are PVM oriented while allowing people to still be piece of shit PVP killers if they choose. But by in large the server seems PVM because they offer other outlets for real PVP via tournaments, guild wars, and town invasions so its not just 10,000 reds ruling every dungeon.

im shocked how good UO is in 2021 on this server and I'm barely scratching the surface.

Calling it UO2 says to me you never played UO seriously, or haven't played it since 1998. It's like 97% the same game on a different map.

Gravydoo II
10-08-2021, 05:16 PM
what do you even do in outlands tho

is it like runescape where you just do whatever?

get money, buy stuff, get a house, get a boat, become a pirate, become a hero pvm'er, become a pk. you kinda gotta create your own content. You can craft anything from swords to potions to spell books and spell scrolls for spell books. Everything can be made by people and its better than whats from the vendor.

Watch Trammie surprise on youtube. You can become a thief/bomber man, too. You can be a scavenger and never kill mobs but still make mad money skinning the dead bodies etc.

Bardp1999
10-08-2021, 11:55 PM
Calling it UO2 says to me you never played UO seriously, or haven't played it since 1998. It's like 97% the same game on a different map.

Naw

NPC
10-10-2021, 01:33 AM
UO 1997 to 2000 was the best game ever made, you were only safe in town. You step outside town and its anything goes. Instead of some dumb ass NPC fights, other players were the end game content, fighting over the best loot spawns. At its height, the, PVP and combat mechanics in this era was insanely good, but you had to know what you were doing. The banks were like EQ but they could only hold so much stuff, so you had to buy a house if your loot out grew your bank space. Which meant all of your loot in your house was potentially vulnerable. Nothing was safe, so it was very intense. These safe BS games today, no one has any idea the real interactive game like UO and how good it was. When you died you were a ghost that could not interact with anything until you got rezzed. I miss that intensity, the game play mechanics from that era were also very unique, with many, many creative ways to kill people. Excellent PVP, unique skill and spells mechanics, real player crafting of useful items you bought constantly. Of course they patched out the awesome combat and made a safe 2D Everquest. That the only reason I quit UO and started Everquest. Unlike everquest there were no classes, so balance was not an issue with PVP, if you were missing something, you just went and trained up the skill you needed.

Bardp1999
10-12-2021, 07:22 PM
NPC you should try Outlands (P99 type free server). Its classic UO that they have made way more grindy (not in skills up points, but in leveling the custom stuff). 7X GM doesnt mean shit, its all about your other levels. its a great blend of skill based and level based systems working together. Its same T2A UO on a custom map with a bunch of cool added shit. Like you can get weapon codexs that require XP to level up from killing monsters that give you added bonuses, Aspects to level up that do the same, and they have the same systems in place for Summoners Tombs and Taming. Its great that you can play whatever you want and be pretty good.

They have balanced the game very well so that if you have all the Aspects and Codexs and Mastery Chains and Tombs and shit leveled up whatever build you choose is competitive. Its not just an army of tamers and halberd mages (those are still there, but they are not so much better than everything else that that's ALL there is).

They have slowed down mount speed and you can not be mounted at all in dungeons so the game is a little slower and it makes it much much much more enjoyable. Its pretty easy to get away from PKers but you will still run into them very often and other players are the biggest danger in the game by far (and there are plenty of griefers but not to the point where you cant do stuff)

This is the best UO server i have ever played on and ive played several - has a 2000+ pop

Homesteaded
10-16-2021, 03:32 PM
I've been on Outlands for about a week now. It's been a great game to learn, if you enjoy p99 I think you can learn to love UO. It's from the same era but the mechanics and gameplay are different. It has aspects of EQ that we love, slower methodical gameplay. Enjoy!

Ooloo
10-16-2021, 04:50 PM
UO 1997 to 2000 was the best game ever made, you were only safe in town. You step outside town and its anything goes. Instead of some dumb ass NPC fights, other players were the end game content, fighting over the best loot spawns. At its height, the, PVP and combat mechanics in this era was insanely good, but you had to know what you were doing. The banks were like EQ but they could only hold so much stuff, so you had to buy a house if your loot out grew your bank space. Which meant all of your loot in your house was potentially vulnerable. Nothing was safe, so it was very intense. These safe BS games today, no one has any idea the real interactive game like UO and how good it was. When you died you were a ghost that could not interact with anything until you got rezzed. I miss that intensity, the game play mechanics from that era were also very unique, with many, many creative ways to kill people. Excellent PVP, unique skill and spells mechanics, real player crafting of useful items you bought constantly. Of course they patched out the awesome combat and made a safe 2D Everquest. That the only reason I quit UO and started Everquest. Unlike everquest there were no classes, so balance was not an issue with PVP, if you were missing something, you just went and trained up the skill you needed.

Ahhh god nostalgia feels. I started playing UO in the fall of 1997, it was just unreal. I also quit after they made it a carebear game, I think that was the renaissance expansion, when they split the world into trammel and felucia. It just totally gutted everything fun about the game. I also hated that custom housing shit they eventually put in. It was a cool concept, but not everyone is an artist and suddenly there were just all these god awful looking houses everywhere. The original stock house deeds where the shit. L-shape two story all the way.

I genuinely feel grateful that I got to experience that era of the game in real time as it happened.

Bardp1999
11-10-2021, 01:19 PM
Cant speak highly enough about how bad ass this server is. Fairly large learning curve but once you start to get it you realize how much they have improved on the game and made this thing into its own monster. So much character progression is available aside from leveling a skill to 100.

Haven't logged into P99 since discovering this gem of a server, no regerts.

Classic UO spirit turned into a more modern MMORPG, its fucking beautiful

Gravydoo II
11-17-2021, 12:54 PM
I'm in NEW if anyone needs help. Send me a PM.

Bardp1999
12-15-2021, 06:51 PM
Still playing Outlands, its still awesome. New content and rebalancing come in about once a month, its delicious.

Great PVM content will PVP being the ultimate dispute solver, 10/10 would play again

Chortles Snortles
12-15-2021, 07:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CHOz4jw.jpg

Homesteaded
12-15-2021, 08:31 PM
My biggest issue so far is it’s not friendly to casual gaming. End up getting ganked most of the time.

Ooloo
12-15-2021, 08:38 PM
My biggest issue so far is it’s not friendly to casual gaming. End up getting ganked most of the time.

That's true sadly people have gotten so good at UO that player-killers are incredibly effective. Back in 1998 they were still dangerous, but you actually stood a chance 1v1 because people hadn't min-maxed the shit out of all the game's systems yet.

Bardp1999
12-16-2021, 12:27 AM
My biggest issue so far is it’s not friendly to casual gaming. End up getting ganked most of the time.

hit me up if you need some help. I have a Mage Tower and a pretty established character

Spyder73#7317 discord

Chortles Snortles
12-16-2021, 12:36 AM
https://i.imgur.com/CHOz4jw.jpg

starkind
12-16-2021, 12:59 AM
I have a Mage Tower
https://i.imgur.com/ZvTBzME.jpeg

Homesteaded
12-16-2021, 01:47 AM
hit me up if you need some help. I have a Mage Tower and a pretty established character

Spyder73#7317 discord

How dare you try and rob me of my boot strap experience.

Tunabros
12-16-2021, 01:52 AM
my zoomer ass is on old school runescape

see in multi wilderness where i Pk you for 10 mil

Bardp1999
12-16-2021, 02:13 AM
Trolling outside of RnF now fat boy? This is a UO thread, not here for your autistic projecting SnOrTlEs ChOrTlEs.

Here for nostalgic gaming purposes. many EQ players were also UO players and this is what a classic UO player would be looking for in a modern version of UO.

Chortles Snortles
12-16-2021, 02:20 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ygJwvPc.gif