Warrior and swiftblade of zek

[Awjin]

At 60, is it OK keep it offhand (infestation mainhand) regardless of the situation ? I mean should I swap a proc weapon offhand instead… for better threat generation, when needed?
I’ve got ringed mace / troc skean / wavecrasher but those swiftblade stats and ratio are too good. Just wondering

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Full disclaimer, I am not an expert warrior. If you are grouping, I would imagine a high threat proc in the offhand would be better than the swiftblade. Your ability to maintain agro is more important than some AC and HP. That is why you see the endgame threat setup looking something like trident of the deep seas and red epic.

[Lurgort/Sseri]

I have a Infestation + Velium Maul of Superiority which is the same dmg/delay of the Swiftblade of Zek. In The Hole groups, if infest procs, mob sticks to me usually. If it doesn't proc, epic rogues peel aggro pretty easily.

If you absolutely must hold threat, Infest + another threat gen weapon in offhand is the way to go.

[Loadsamoney]

Pardon my ignorance, but if you can afford an SoZ, wouldn't you just be better off getting your epic? I could be, and probably am, remembering this wrong, but I don't remember Blade of Tactics and Blade of Strategy being one of the harder/more bottlenecked epics to get.

[Lurgort/Sseri]

Pardon my ignorance, but if you can afford an SoZ, wouldn't you just be better off getting your epic? I could be, and probably am, remembering this wrong, but I don't remember Blade of Tactics and Blade of Strategy being one of the harder/more bottlenecked epics to get.

Green Scales. Severilous in EJ or Hoshkar in VP, 7 day spawns, drop not guaranteed-- you're competing against other guilds, and also your own guildmates. Definitely one of the harder epics to acquire.

[Loadsamoney]

Green Scales. Severilous in EJ or Hoshkar in VP, 7 day spawns, drop not guaranteed-- you're competing against other guilds, and also your own guildmates. Definitely one of the harder epics to acquire.

Oh, Green Scales, right. That's 500kpp minimum, right? And that's assuming someone is even selling the damn thing.

Yeah, nevermind, I'm a dumbass and we all know it.

[Deadfather]

Pardon my ignorance, but if you can afford an SoZ, wouldn't you just be better off getting your epic? I could be, and probably am, remembering this wrong, but I don't remember Blade of Tactics and Blade of Strategy being one of the harder/more bottlenecked epics to get.

There is a difference between a 60k item (SoZ) and green dragon scales (500k+)
War epic is prolly the most bottlenecked.

[Snaggles]

At 60, is it OK keep it offhand (infestation mainhand) regardless of the situation ? I mean should I swap a proc weapon offhand instead… for better threat generation, when needed?
I’ve got ringed mace / troc skean / wavecrasher but those swiftblade stats and ratio are too good. Just wondering

There are cases where max hps > threat (like rampage tank duty). It’s also a great low aggro dps weapon which can come in handy.

If you have an infestation I’d throw anything in your offhand with a solid proc though for tanking; white damage aggro will be close and proc aggro will be a game changer.

Remember your offhand swing ratio is fairly low compared to the primary (50-72% depending on sources at max skill) and no damage bonus. Procs trigger on average half the rate which makes them quite viable for threat even if that weapon is doing a bit less damage than ideal. The SBoZ is about 11% better ratio than a Frostbringer for example. It won’t increase your damage 11% though since the main hand is doing so much of the overall work. It might make sense to keep it; you might want to recycle that budget into hp gear not taking up melee slots.

[Sonderbeast]

It is situational. If you're in a group and need to maintain aggro from a shaman or enchanter as he's slowing, then you will want a heavy aggro set-up. If you are duoing, after it's slowed it's ok to switch to a white damage item like SBOZ or as your DPS will be needed, and you will likely be able to hold aggro in this case. If you're tanking something bigger say in HOT with plenty of DPS, then having a good high ratio off-hand is negligible. You should be using a good aggro proc.

[Toxigen]

like sonder said

good in duos / trios where that dps will actually mean something

full groups in hole? go max threat

(btw dont xp in hole in full groups)

[mattydef]

If a green scale hit the market I have no doubt it would go for over a million plat. I’ve seen white scale offers in that range.

[Loadsamoney]

If a green scale hit the market I have no doubt it would go for over a million plat. I’ve seen white scale offers in that range.

You make it sound as if there's hardly any on the server at all and nobody sells them period. But the wiki does say 500k or so for green scales.

[Naethyn]

I'll buy a green scale for 500k.

[Loadsamoney]

I'll buy a green scale for 500k.

Date Seller Price Date Seller Price
2020-10-22 Pvpforpixels 15000 2020-10-21 Pvpforpixels 15000
2020-04-12 Baelzharon 30000 2019-05-28 Onuko 300000
2019-05-21 Dreadrobert 100000 2019-05-21 Caros 100000
2017-07-21 Percolator 500000 2017-07-09 Hamflop 500000
2017-07-03 Hamflop 600000 2017-06-30 Hamflop 600000
2014-03-03 Zeelot 500000 2013-08-25 Jamee 500000
2013-05-11 Lightone

[Jimjam]

The fact of the matter is we need to find a more humane way to euthanise these dragons - often the process of putting them down is so damaging not a single scale can be recovered.

[Samoht]

Pair Frostbringer (https://wiki.project1999.com/Frostbringer) offhand with Infestation mainhand.

[fortior]

You make it sound as if there's hardly any on the server at all and nobody sells them period. But the wiki does say 500k or so for green scales.

lol. just lol.

[mattydef]

You make it sound as if there's hardly any on the server at all and nobody sells them period. But the wiki does say 500k or so for green scales.

Not to be mean but this is probably one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read. Green/White Scales are quite literally some of the rarest things you can buy and yes nobody sells them. The last green scales on the wiki were 500-600k four years ago and were probably fake auctions from someone that wanted to buy one but made an alt to pretend to auction one for that price to try and lower it. Go look up the recent posts for a white scale, you will see probably 5 different people offering 700k-1 million plat for one and not getting any. People don't even bother auctioning for a green scale anymore because most of us know it's pointless to even try and buy one.

[Loadsamoney]

Not to be mean but this is probably one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read. Green/White Scales are quite literally some of the rarest things you can buy and yes nobody sells them. The last green scales on the wiki were 500-600k four years ago and were probably fake auctions from someone that wanted to buy one but made an alt to pretend to auction one for that price to try and lower it. Go look up the recent posts for a white scale, you will see probably 5 different people offering 700k-1 million plat for one and not getting any. People don't even bother auctioning for a green scale anymore because most of us know it's pointless to even try and buy one.

So seeing people on the regular selling them in EC is just a mirage then? It's just a unicorn? A leprechaun?

The only reason the scales would never sell is if the one who has them uses them for their own epics immediately.

I feel like you guys are trolling me now.

[mattydef]

So seeing people on the regular selling them in EC is just a mirage then? It's just a unicorn? A leprechaun?

The only reason the scales would never sell is if the one who has them uses them for their own epics immediately.

I feel like you guys are trolling me now.

You're smoking crack man. Seeing them in EC on the regular? Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us?

[Ennewi]

the one who has them uses them for their own epics immediately.

[Loadsamoney]

You're smoking crack man. Seeing them in EC on the regular? Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us?

Every couple of days I dip in to EC for an hour or two, to see if anyone is selling a Book of Scale, as I'm trying to get one to complete Fiery Avenger. The last three times I was there, I've seen "WTS white dragon scales" scroll by once or twice.

Either you're never in EC or you're blind. Find your contacts bud.

[mattydef]

Nobody is selling a white dragon scale, and if someone is auctioning to sell one they are full of shit, stop being an ignorant fuck and spreading misinformation.

[Loadsamoney]

Nobody is selling a white dragon scale, and if someone is auctioning to sell one they are full of shit, stop being an ignorant fuck and spreading misinformation.

Okay, if you're just gonna be stupid on purpose, we're done. I'm giving you the facts and you're sticking your fingers in your ears like a child being told something they don't want to hear. Step out of your little hugbox bubble and start using your eyes.

[mattydef]

Okay, if you're just gonna be stupid on purpose, we're done. I'm giving you the facts and you're sticking your fingers in your ears like a child being told something they don't want to hear. Step out of your little hugbox bubble and start using your eyes.

Giving me the "facts" huh? You have no idea how hilarious that is. By the way, if you're looking for a book of scale you might want to contact "Canker" here on the forums, he's been trying to sell one.

[Allishia]

They use to get sold sometimes cause guilds were smaller and more main based vs people with alts. Now it's Zerg and everyone has a war alt /nod.

[Sonderbeast]

They use to get sold sometimes cause guilds were smaller and more main based vs people with alts. Now it's Zerg and everyone has a war alt /nod.

Was gonna say something to this effect. Green scales are just not a real commodity, you'd have a lot of grumpy neckbeards shaking their poo buckets if you did.

I felt the same way as loadsofcummies for a long time, but then you see that there are just lines of people with warriors waiting for a scale to complete their gear and realize it may as well be Vulakk loot.

[Graahle]

Giving me the "facts" huh? You have no idea how hilarious that is. By the way, if you're looking for a book of scale you might want to contact "Canker" here on the forums, he's been trying to sell one.

It's just not that serious bro, calm down.

[mattydef]

It's just not that serious bro, calm down.

I don't know what it was about that quote specifically that made you think I was taking my conversation with that guy serious in any way, because I assure you I wasn't. It's more like trying to explain to a little kid that super heroes don't actually exist, but you end up just making them stomp their feet and cry and call you a liar.

[Graahle]

Yeah you're totally not taking it serious haha.

Green Dragon Scales akin to Super Heroes now.

[Ennewi]

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Green_Dragon_(Earth-616)#History

[Samoht]

Okay, if you're just gonna be stupid on purpose, we're done. I'm giving you the facts and you're sticking your fingers in your ears like a child being told something they don't want to hear. Step out of your little hugbox bubble and start using your eyes.

Caros on blue used to advertise dozens of high end items at a time for stupidly high prices. When people would gather the payment requested for said items, they would find that Caros did not actually have them.

It was all a price fixing scam.

Just because something is advertised does not make it legitimate. People go to great lengths to manipulate prices on this elf sim.

[mattydef]

Yeah you're totally not taking it serious haha.

Green Dragon Scales akin to Super Heroes now.

Yea because super heroes in comics are much more serious than dragon scales in a video game

[wagorf]

At 60, is it OK keep it offhand (infestation mainhand) regardless of the situation ? I mean should I swap a proc weapon offhand instead… for better threat generation, when needed?
I’ve got ringed mace / troc skean / wavecrasher but those swiftblade stats and ratio are too good. Just wondering

and back to OP's question

If you are in a situation where you can afford losing almost 50% the chance to proc aggro,

If you are 60, you should already have a sense on when you need max aggro chance and when you don't.

[bradsamma]

Raid? Definitely get a frostbringer until you can get a better weapon.

Group content? Rock that swiftblade.