When News was News

[Pulgasari]

THE DEVIL IN GORBACHEV, June 5 1988 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/06/05/the-devil-in-gorbachev/34f9db9b-9498-4894-9800-90f7d3d4e434/)

"The evidence is overwhelming that Gorbachev is the Antichrist," says Robert W. Faid

"When I look at the top of Gorbachev's head, I see a red dragon and over the right eye, there's a tail that hangs, representing stars," says Faid

The Antichrist, in New Testament lore, is the Satanic dictator who will plunge the world into misery and war before Jesus Christ returns to save the faithful.

If Gorbachev is indeed the Antichrist, of course, it could change the landscape of American politics.

How strong is Faid's evidence? Decide for yourself. He uses a book "Theomatics" co-authored by former basketball star Jerry Lucas to show how in Greek, Hebrew and Russian, the letters in Mikhail S. Gorbachev's name add up to multiples of "666."

Here's how Faid explains Gorbachev's swift rise in the Communist Party hierarchy: "Who is responsible for all this? There can be only one answer! Satan was responsible."

[Jibartik]

Looking forward to reading this tomorrow.

[Baler]

Asking people questions worded in a way so they answer the way you want.

Manipulating the narrative to increase views.

Don't watch any main stream news or news that gets their news from main stream news.

They're telling you how to think about subjects that would never normally enter your life.
Manipulating you into being a way about a thing that in reality doesn't matter to who you are.

But people are stupid, so keep eating the slop and saying it's a fine meal. :rolleyes:

[zodium]

where's the lie

[nostalgiaquest]

"Opine all you like, but if you're going to opine, begin with the truth and opine from there. When people begin with a false premise and lead people astray, that's injurious to society and it's the antithesis of what we should be doing: Those of us who are so honored and grateful to have a platform of public influence have to use it for the public good."

RIP Shep

[zodium]

gorbachev was a lib who wrecked the soviet union and the world's been hurtling towards the common ruin of the contending classes ever since, it makes sense he'd be the antichrist.

[Pulgasari]

gorbachev was a lib who wrecked the soviet union and the world's been hurtling towards the common ruin of the contending classes ever since, it makes sense he'd be the antichrist.

That's fucked up. :(

[HalflingSpergand]

News was never news

[Toxigen]

the news died w/ Cronkite

[HalflingSpergand]

There was never news. Nothing has changed literally ever

[Shawk]

Don't watch any main stream news or news that gets their news from main stream news.

They're telling you how to think about subjects that would never normally enter your life.
Manipulating you into being a way about a thing that in reality doesn't matter to who you are.

But people are stupid, so keep eating the slop and saying it's a fine meal. :rolleyes:

qft

Don't know many people under 50 who watch that trash though..

[zodium]

That's fucked up. :(

agreed, but i mean, what do you expect from the antichrist

[Jibartik]

THE DEVIL IN GORBACHEV, June 5 1988 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/06/05/the-devil-in-gorbachev/34f9db9b-9498-4894-9800-90f7d3d4e434/)

What is the difference between thinking the president of Russia is an antichrist and changing the landscape of our politics in 1988 vs thinking that he is puppeteering the election and president and changing the landscape of our politics in 2016?

Nothing except the parties flipping lol

Politics is a religion not governance! Hope this helps :o

[Horza]

What is the difference between thinking the president of Russia is an antichrist and changing the landscape of our politics in 1988 vs thinking that he is puppeteering the president and changing the landscape of our politics in 2016?

Nothing except the parties flipping lol

Politics is a religion not governance! Hope this helps :o

This is your brain on Fox News.

[Jibartik]

The irony is your view of fox news is how I see both fox news and you.

Remind me how in 2016 Russia hacked our election and put a spy in the white house (cnn and msnbc) but the election fraud claims today (fox news) are different?

https://i.imgur.com/KZ1MWoI.gif

[Horza]

The irony is your view of fox news is how I see both fox news and you.

Remind me how in 2016 Russia hacked our election and put a spy in the white house (cnn and msnbc) but the election fraud claims today (fox news) are different?



The conservative doth protest too much, methinks.

[Jibartik]

The conservative.

https://i.imgur.com/undGaU5.png

(you know which party liked to dehumanize its enemies before right?)

parties flipped!

[Pulgasari]

What is the difference between thinking the president of Russia is an antichrist and changing the landscape of our politics in 1988 vs thinking that he is puppeteering the election and president and changing the landscape of our politics in 2016?

Nothing except the parties flipping lol

Politics is a religion not governance! Hope this helps :o

Well, the President of Russia doesn't have a blight on his head no more. :eek:

[zodium]

https://i.imgur.com/undGaU5.png

(you know which party liked to dehumanize its enemies before right?)

parties flipped!

what if there are more than 2 sides to politics

[zodium]

angloid man: politics is a spectrum with the american democrats on the left and the american republicans on the right

[Jibartik]

what if there are more than 2 sides to politics

Well of cruse there is there is in reality but there isnt, right now.

Because we're in the throws of a very religious version of politics.

There are two guild tabards and that's it (right now).

Because deep down the establishment today is no different than the establishment in 1988 except for the names (it believe in absolutes)

[Jimjam]

There was never news. Nothing has changed literally ever

Totes. The bible is clear THE LORD created everything in 7 days. On the 7th day HE began HIS rest.

To acknowledge change is sacrilegious. Everything is as it alway will be - ashes to ashes, dust to dust, Australia to better England at cricket for all time.

[Jibartik]

Time makes life on earth better.

People make life on earth worse.

Over time people die and things get better.

Man has no hand in it.

The universe is alive and we're just an organ.

[zodium]

Well of cruse there is there is in reality but there isnt, right now.

Because we're in the throws of a very religious version of politics.

There are two guild tabards and that's it (right now).

Because deep down the establishment today is no different than the establishment in 1988 except for the names (it believe in absolutes)

no, youre just an angloid.

[Horza]

angloid man: politics is a spectrum with the american democrats on the left and the american republicans on the right

Is it really true Biden is actually secretly a revolutionary communist?

[Jibartik]

no, youre just an angloid.

Interesting perspective.

Notice horza puts us into same group.

[Gatordash]

Is it really true Biden is actually secretly a revolutionary communist?

He pretends to be but he's as capitalist as they come.

[Jimjam]

no, youre just an angloid.

Ur acute ;) x

[Pulgasari]

He pretends to be but he's as capitalist as they come.

[zodium]

Is it really true Biden is actually secretly a revolutionary communist?

yeah. when chairman joe gives the signal, antifa supersoldiers are going to behead all the white dads in the town square and institute universal marxism-bidenism,

[Gwaihir]

yeah. when chairman joe gives the signal, antifa supersoldiers are going to behead all the white dads in the town square and institute universal marxism-bidenism,

Hahahahaha.

Dispensationalism is fun.

It's the only reliable guiding principle of the uni-parry establishment.

If you don't like it, make your own establishment.

...Bidenist-marxism, where you wantonly forget you're already in a socialist system, and all the commies hate you for it, because they forget they're already in it as well.

[Horza]

Hahahahaha.

Dispensationalism is fun.

It's the only reliable guiding principle of the uni-parry establishment.

If you don't like it, make your own establishment.

...Bidenist-marxism, where you wantonly forget you're already in a socialist system

Schizo shit.

[Gwaihir]

Schizo shit.

Yep, no true Scotsman.

Heh.

At least Zodium is intelligent, and has a sardonic wit. Ngmi, bro. Your lack of comprehension has me falling back on my original assessment; you're either a JIDF shill, or a poorly programmed divisive chatbot. Likely, the latter given your recent not-even-tangental remarks

[Horza]

You already accused me of being a Soros-funded AI something like two years and three accounts ago.

[zodium]

Schizo shit.

why don't you put the whole world in an asylum, horza

[Horza]

why don't you put the whole world in an asylum, horza

Let me have my petty feud.

[Gwaihir]

why don't you put the whole world in an asylum, horza

Aren't we already in one? Scrambling to put the pieces of sanity back together, while a large contingent plays undirected Legos with em?

[Gwaihir]

Why are progressives pushing socialism so much? Look at what happened with the college admittance cheating scandal. Socialism legalizes that. Currently the president, VP, etc, appoint who they want to specific spots in their cabinet. They have connections into industries that allows people like hunter Biden to get a job as an investment banker and smoke crack all day.

But nationalize all the industries? Create government oversight across every private corporation. Government decides who's president/CEO. Kamala Harris appoints her 18 year old tiktok thot niece as secretary of housing. 18 year old gets to live in a mansion in Beverly hills while you, who used to be a union ironworker making 90k after OT have your 3 acres confiscated and thrown into a 500sqft apartment, given bread and water, and told to work for free. They'll pretend there's one shortage after another caused by global warming, cyber attacks, etc, as the reason why your kids go to bed hungry. When in reality, communism/socialism does what they always do, appoint unqualified idiots to high salary positions. The government is horribly mismanaged and the more power you give them the more they fuck things up.

But it's worth it to proggies. They have the power to give and take. You kiss their ass you might just live in a 1000 sqft house with a small yard one day. But you gotta lick those boots first.

At least those boots aren't a dirty capitalist businessman who used to pay you 90k, plus healthcare and a retirement. This is so much better than that.

[zodium]

Aren't we already in one? Scrambling to put the pieces of sanity back together, while a large contingent plays undirected Legos with em?

from the western linear chronosphere standpoint, it may look as if chaos zen simply messes around, impulsively, restlessly; but the way it works is intricately strategic from the perspective of trivialist temporality. chaos zen contributes to the world order not through the so-called main timeline, the major twists and revolutions of the double-helical base of creation, but through the hidden planes intertwining the hole-spaces between the material and spiritual.

[Gwaihir]

from the western linear chronosphere standpoint, it may look as if chaos zen simply messes around, impulsively, restlessly; but the way it works is intricately strategic from the perspective of trivialist temporality. chaos zen contributes to the world order not through the so-called main timeline, the major twists and revolutions of the double-helical base of creation, but through the hidden planes intertwining the hole-spaces between the material and spiritual.

Yes, Ordo Ab Chao is the motto of the "Builders".

But...That addresses the minor, not the major. The manipulations on the nature of reality by the "builders" is the minor with the major influence. The fiddling with sticks and feces is the major with the minor influence, for it is directionless: unfocused, and enables the Will of the minor to triumph over the Will of the major.

Mind you, Christ is the cornerstone the "builders" rejected, not the cornerstone the "builders" built the beast system upon.

Socialist Marxism doesn't address this in it's current form, (cultural Marxism) because by definition, it subdivides and elevates the minority over the majority, naturally perpetuating the issue we are broaching in this train of thought.

[Gustoo]

Why are progressives pushing socialism so much? Look at what happened with the college admittance cheating scandal. Socialism legalizes that. Currently the president, VP, etc, appoint who they want to specific spots in their cabinet. They have connections into industries that allows people like hunter Biden to get a job as an investment banker and smoke crack all day.

But nationalize all the industries? Create government oversight across every private corporation. Government decides who's president/CEO. Kamala Harris appoints her 18 year old tiktok thot niece as secretary of housing. 18 year old gets to live in a mansion in Beverly hills while you, who used to be a union ironworker making 90k after OT have your 3 acres confiscated and thrown into a 500sqft apartment, given bread and water, and told to work for free. They'll pretend there's one shortage after another caused by global warming, cyber attacks, etc, as the reason why your kids go to bed hungry. When in reality, communism/socialism does what they always do, appoint unqualified idiots to high salary positions. The government is horribly mismanaged and the more power you give them the more they fuck things up.

But it's worth it to proggies. They have the power to give and take. You kiss their ass you might just live in a 1000 sqft house with a small yard one day. But you gotta lick those boots first.

At least those boots aren't a dirty capitalist businessman who used to pay you 90k, plus healthcare and a retirement. This is so much better than that.

All of this is 100percent actual

The thing that matters is our response to it. "Our" being every single person in the united states and the planet.

If our response is to find fellow victims of fucked systems for us to hate to feel better about ourselves, then we are falling right into the hands of the above described devils

If our response is to treat eachother with unity and respect and love then we can't be beat. We lose when we beat and murder and kill eachother, we succeed when we do not do these things regardless of what fake fuck is in power telling us to feel these ways, or tellling us things that make us mad at eachother and feel these ways.

Don't fall for it.

[Gwaihir]

All of this is 100percent actual

The thing that matters is our response to it. "Our" being every single person in the united states and the planet.

If our response is to find fellow victims of fucked systems for us to hate to feel better about ourselves, then we are falling right into the hands of the above described devils

If our response is to treat eachother with unity and respect and love then we can't be beat. We lose when we beat and murder and kill eachother, we succeed when we do not do these things regardless of what fake fuck is in power telling us to feel these ways, or tellling us things that make us mad at eachother and feel these ways.

Don't fall for it.

Exactly this. With the US as a microcosm we were well along the road to this path in the early aughts, before the establishment, sensing the loss of power, imported identity politics into the western world, as a means of undermining this aim.

I'm trying, through Christ Jesus, but like sinners I stumble and regress back to old ways, especially when the focus of antithesis is increasingly magnified, as we see becoming increasingly prevalent to this day.

Horza, you need to leave. Everyone's tired of your incensed bullshit and you have no general desire to see rifts close.

[Horza]

It seems a little ironic to be lectured about identity politics and closing rifts by the guy whose explanation for every problem in his life is Jewish conspiracies to eliminate the white race.

[Gwaihir]

This message is hidden because Horza is on your ignore list.

And I would advise literally everyone to do the same. Nothing of value ever added; just outrage porn.

[zodium]

Yes, Ordo Ab Chao is the motto of the "Builders".

But...That addresses the minor, not the major. The manipulations on the nature of reality by the "builders" is the minor with the major influence. The fiddling with sticks and feces is the major with the minor influence, for it is directionless: unfocused, and enables the Will of the minor to triumph over the Will of the major.

Mind you, Christ is the cornerstone the "builders" rejected, not the cornerstone the "builders" built the beast system upon.

Socialist Marxism doesn't address this in it's current form, (cultural Marxism) because by definition, it subdivides and elevates the minority over the majority, naturally perpetuating the issue we are broaching in this train of thought.

what do you think communism is?

[Byue]

Why are progressives pushing socialism so much? Look at what happened with the college admittance cheating scandal. Socialism legalizes that. Currently the president, VP, etc, appoint who they want to specific spots in their cabinet. They have connections into industries that allows people like hunter Biden to get a job as an investment banker and smoke crack all day.

I mean, I don't want to do whataboutism but it's kind of the prez's job to appoint people. The last one did that. Even appointed a supreme court judge weeks before leaving office, while denying Obama this. (mitch mcconnel) The last one even hired his kids to work in the white house, giving them top security clearances and shit.
Do you think Jared Kushner was in any way, shape or form, the best man for the job?
Ivanka? How about Betsy Davos?

Let's be honest here.
Biden would never dare hire his kids in the white house.
Yet under 45, American learned about nepotism.


Let's not fall into this easy trap of my side good, your side bad because if we are to be hones, most politicians are corrupt except the one who are the least likely to be corrupt is often the one coming from the masses. Evo Morales comes to mind.
Bernie Sanders, who did not flip flop at all during his tenure is another example.

He said it then, he says it now.
This is rare, amongst politicians.

Now, we got a bunch of (Ramsay's) Reek a la Ted Cruz who got his wife insulted by the man he now suck the dick of. We have clips of Cruz calling 45 a liar yet now he would probably lay down in a puddle so 45 can walk over him and not get wet.

Let's be honest guys.
Which is the most honest politician you know?
I only know of Sanders that I think fits the bill but I'll e frank, I don't know all of the backbenchers who often are also, more steady than those front row people who flip flop according to current events.

[Gwaihir]

Which is the most honest politician you know?
I only know of Sanders that I think fits the bill but I'll e frank, I don't know all of the backbenchers who often are also, more steady than those front row people who flip flop according to current events.

Ron Paul, but he's retired, and his son is not half the man he was.
Ron Paul intended to abolish the den of vipers like Jackson did. Everyone else wants to negotiate with them.

[Toxigen]

the goyim know

shut it down

f5s0GKCyyP4

[Gwaihir]

Oh well. What's the clown world accelerationist plan? Topple Iran and North Korea and install a few banks because they're the "bad guys"? And by bad, I mean, lacking sound financial instruments.

[Horza]

Trump losing badly to a sensible moderate like Biden seems to have permanently broken the brains of our resident antisemites.

[starkind]

Trump losing badly to a sensible moderate like Biden seems to have permanently broken the brains of our resident antisemites.

calling biden (trumplite) a sensible moderate is insulting and idiotic,

i dont' know how to rephrase that to keep our dignity intackt

[Horza]

Sorry about your broken brain, my retarded chum.

[Pulgasari]

Sorry about your broken brain, my retarded chum.

uphold Manchin-Bidenism :cool:

[Horza]

uphold Manchin-Bidenism :cool:

I voted for Bernie in the primary :(

[starkind]

Sorry about your broken brain, my retarded chum.

feelings not offended, thank you for your honesty

I voted for Bernie in the primary :(

Warren, cuz i figured if we were going down this road we should earnestly and efficiently.

[Gwaihir]

Warren had promise in her aim to end stock buybacks.

How can a "publically" owned company buy itself back from the public? Couple this with the fact that it's essentially "free" money that they're borrowing from the financial industry at near-zero interest inflating the value of their stock.

If a publically traded stock market is the search for the valuation of a company between buyers and sellers, who is the organization itself to add artificial value to that value-finding mission?

This is what causes rampant speculation leading to stock market crashes that economically destroy individuals. It's a Ponzi scheme baked into the system and it inflates the value of the financial system itself as well
See: FAS' performance since last year's "recession"

[Byue]

calling biden (trumplite) a sensible moderate is insulting and idiotic,

i dont' know how to rephrase that to keep our dignity intackt

Weird because fox news hammered home the point that if Biden i elected, antifa will be elected into power, cities will burn, communism will be implemented, the country will fall into chinese hands and so forth and there we have someone being, biden is trump but, lite.


oh, so, whether we have trump or biden, it's absolutely the same?
why so many angry republicans then?

if honesty was a thing, some of us would not win uh.


Warren had promise in her aim to end stock buybacks.

How can a "publically" owned company buy itself back from the public? Couple this with the fact that it's essentially "free" money that they're borrowing from the financial industry at near-zero interest inflating the value of their stock.

If a publically traded stock market is the search for the valuation of a company between buyers and sellers, who is the organization itself to add artificial value to that value-finding mission?

This is what causes rampant speculation leading to stock market crashes that economically destroy individuals. It's a Ponzi scheme baked into the system and it inflates the value of the financial system itself as well
See: FAS' performance since last year's "recession"

the ponzi scheme is capitalism, I mean, it's very obviously a pyramid scheme if we are to be honest? Very obviously a pyramid scheme.
And the more people you have working under you, the richer you'll get. lol. It's a mlm.

But, beside this, just know that these economic things you hate so much, are ultra conservative Milton Friedman's ideas.
It wreak havoc in the US, sure but now, imagine what it does to countries with lesser infrastructure...

We do, have a cure for malaria.
500,000 people die from this, every year.

It's easy to point at communism and say famine, bad.
But nobody looks at this dark side of capitalism where people die of hunger, and thirst because they cannot afford water, and food or die from treatable diseases because they cannot afford the medicine.

The numbers are staggering.
And we say oh well, their government are corrupt.
Yeah, we know this, the US is evry friendly to these despots because these despots send cheap resources tho so we, as westerners, are complicit.

Or we can close our eyes on this reality.

[Pulgasari]

Warren had promise in her aim to end stock buybacks.

How can a "publically" owned company buy itself back from the public? Couple this with the fact that it's essentially "free" money that they're borrowing from the financial industry at near-zero interest inflating the value of their stock.

If a publically traded stock market is the search for the valuation of a company between buyers and sellers, who is the organization itself to add artificial value to that value-finding mission?

This is what causes rampant speculation leading to stock market crashes that economically destroy individuals. It's a Ponzi scheme baked into the system and it inflates the value of the financial system itself as well
See: FAS' performance since last year's "recession"

Stock buybacks increase flexibility in the event of a downturn by reducing leverage.

[Gwaihir]

Why do you think the stock market starts crashing any time even the rumor of the Fed raising the interest by a fucking quarter of ONE percent is discussed? A 0.0025% increase to the individual investor is so negligible that it is essentially non-existent, but to the financial industry, and all of the self-serving corporations buying themselves back from investors it is literally the sky falling.

[Gwaihir]

Weird because fox news hammered home the point that if Biden i elected, antifa will be elected into power, cities will burn, communism will be implemented, the country will fall into chinese hands and so forth and there we have someone being, biden is trump but, lite.


oh, so, whether we have trump or biden, it's absolutely the same?
why so many angry republicans then?

if honesty was a thing, some of us would not win uh.




the ponzi scheme is capitalism, I mean, it's very obviously a pyramid scheme if we are to be honest? Very obviously a pyramid scheme.
And the more people you have working under you, the richer you'll get. lol. It's a mlm.

But, beside this, just know that these economic things you hate so much, are ultra conservative Milton Friedman's ideas.
It wreak havoc in the US, sure but now, imagine what it does to countries with lesser infrastructure,

This hyperbole on antifa being voted into power served two purposes; stoking fear in the right-extremists, and placating leftist extremists.

[Byue]

This hyperbole on antifa being voted into power served two purposes; stoking fear in the right-extremists, and placating leftist extremists.

this is also why American democracy is so fragile.
Again, I'll say it: Finland's prime minister take the subway to go to work because why have the taxpayer pay for a driver, this and that, massive security details and so forth.

Not only that but if he/she wants to be reimbursed for the expense, he/she needs to keep the subway ticket.

This creates transparency.
Their democracy is extremely healthy.

And fox news could never exist there.
We need to move away from these easy us vs them, are you not all americans?

[Pulgasari]

Bill Cosby to walk free (https://nypost.com/2021/06/30/bill-cosby-to-be-released-after-court-overturns-conviction/)

Bill Cosby is set to be released from prison after Pennsylvania’s highest court overturned his sexual assault conviction on Wednesday.

[starkind]

@byue I watch fox occasionally but a lot more other. Read mostly non news related think tank stuff less interested in spinning and more academic. tv news is very dumbed down. Like yikes bryue (hard r like Bro) intentional.

[Byue]

@byue I watch fox occasionally but a lot more other. Read mostly non news related think tank stuff less interested in spinning and more academic. tv news is very dumbed down. Like yikes bryue (hard r like Bro) intentional.

Nothing guarantees the neutrality of a think tank.
Actually, think tank are academic places that serves... no academic purposes, mostly.
Because they are not conducting research per se.
And most of them relies on big donors and this makes it so that a lot of the very influential think tanks are... heavily conservatives biased.

Just a heads up.

The absolute best way to digest news is to read it from different angles.
A good story will be reported on in many countries, using many different newspaper which you can cross reference. Perhaps one puts emphasis on a thing and another on another and together, you get a more complete stories.

Foreign Powers Buy Influence at Think Tanks (https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/us/politics/foreign-powers-buy-influence-at-think-tanks.html)

I don't think you would click links I provide but if yu do research about the think tank itself, you might find biases and contra points about it.
You do not have to believe them but since you seem to want to fight bias, it may be a good idea.

I think we also have different definition of news.
Things being reported are news but the four panels expert arguing and talking on top of each other, is opinion-based or, if you prefer, an editorial and

Editorial.
noun.
a newspaper article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a topical issue.

Obviously agenda based.

You do not need that crap.
Tucker Carlson?
Not a journalist, doesn't claim to be and actually, claims to be a showman.
You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers (https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye)


Someone reporting a car crash in a tunnel?
News but like, absolutely unimportant news.

So perhaps we just don't use the definition of news the same way.
All I know, is that often, when a journalist uncover truths, a side is more likely to not believe it than the other, even though people are just reporting facts and on the same token, if a police officer claim something on TV, a side is more likely than the other to believe it as the truth and the two examples uses the same group.
Wild, uh?

[Gwaihir]

Totally agree with Blue. That's the best way to read the Bible too.

2 Esdras 14:46

Sometimes words have more than 1 meaning, but every meaning has many, many, words

[Gatordash]

We do, have a cure for malaria.
500,000 people die from this, every year.

It's easy to point at communism and say famine, bad.
But nobody looks at this dark side of capitalism where people die of hunger, and thirst because they cannot afford water, and food or die from treatable diseases because they cannot afford the medicine.

The numbers are staggering.
And we say oh well, their government are corrupt.
Yeah, we know this, the US is evry friendly to these despots because these despots send cheap resources tho so we, as westerners, are complicit.

Or we can close our eyes on this reality.
We have these medications and cures for diseases because of Capitalism. I think its like 50% of new medications are researched and developed in the United States alone.

[Jibartik]

100% of RND is payed for by taxes in the form of research grants though, so is it socialism that invented medicine or capitalism?

It takes 2 snakes to tangel the scepter of satan.

https://i.imgur.com/WiU2FoJ.png

[zodium]

angloid man: socialism is when the government does things.

[Gatordash]

Grants are used by universities so professors can publish peer reviewed studies, not develop a product people can actually use.

[zodium]

socialism is when the working class uses the government to violently repress the bourgeoisie.

[Jibartik]

Grants are used by universities so professors can publish peer reviewed studies, not develop a product people can actually use.

https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/who_pays

Today, we all do. Most scientific research is funded by government grants (e.g., from the National Science Foundation, the National Institutes of Health, etc.), companies doing research and development, and non-profit foundations (e.g., the Breast Cancer Research Foundation, the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, etc.).

[zodium]

capitalism kills nine million people a year despite a global food surplus.

[Pulgasari]

We have these medications and cures for diseases because of Capitalism. I think its like 50% of new medications are researched and developed in the United States alone.

We are the arsenal of pharmacology.

https://i.imgur.com/3asMjeL.jpg

[Jibartik]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2021/03/31/taxpayer-funded-research-and-the-covid-19-vaccine/

For over 100 years, the U.S. has invested in basic scientific research for a number of reasons including defense, technology development, and health. For example, the 2021 budget for the NIH is $43 billion which is allotted across a wide variety of disease areas including cancer, metabolic diseases and infectious diseases – including vaccines.

The best thing about our system is that we're still too stupid to understand how it really works.

It's like the old days when the vatican told the illiterate folks what the bible said and were able to control the world until the printing press was invented.

I thought the internet would open our eyes to the complex web of lies the goverment creates to maintain control of as much as it can, but instead we just became even more illiterate.

Or maybe these are just growing pains.

[zodium]

I thought the internet would open our eyes to the complex web of lies the goverment creates to maintain control of as much as it can, but instead we just became even more illiterate.

maintaining the status quo by providing citizens with the means to express themselves aesthetically without reforming their lives materially, for the win

[Gatordash]

https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/who_pays

Yeah, you linked an article saying exactly what I just said. This article starts out by talking about research in general. If you keep reading, it says medical research is funded mostly by private companies.

So general scientific research is certainly done at Universities through grants, but actually creating a medical product to use is done by pharmaceutical companies.

[Pulgasari]

Not the kind of Congress that contains Paul Tsongas (https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-01-26-1997026011-story.html)

[Gwaihir]

maintaining the status quo by providing citizens with the means to express themselves aesthetically without reforming their lives materially, for the win

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