View Full Version : Integrity. Honor. Discipline.
starkind
05-30-2021, 10:22 AM
Integrity. Honor. Discipline.
Are the only ways to turn the ship around. If neither of these three things are culturally or socially mandatory for life, liberty, or freedom.
The people in power will just behave like animals and do whatever they want.
This is God's will. Face it.
I apologize that right now I can do no better than to remind you of this hard absolute fact.
Baler
05-30-2021, 10:43 AM
Bushido (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido) is hardcore.
Power = Work / Time
alphys
05-30-2021, 12:16 PM
Strict Bushido principles adopted society wide will always lead to a caste system with all the inherent flaws.
Alas it will always remain a mystery school.
starkind
05-30-2021, 01:00 PM
Bushido (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido) is hardcore.
Power = Work / Time
Yes
Bushido (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido) is hardcore.
Propoganda and revisionism. Are they trying to rewrite Bushido?
Strict Bushido principles adopted society wide will always lead to a caste system with all the inherent flaws.
Alas it will always remain a mystery school.
Is a strict caste system really that bad? Can no one better themselves and their station through their own merit without the predation of others? I believe fanaticism, extremism, religious, philosophical, ideological, is the constraining factor. Some people do need forcefully be put in their place and stations. However. We don't need, cowards, and privileged children, fools commanding us. Or wielding power. Merit is absolutely necessary.
Imo. Sg1, season 9, episode 8, Babylon is representative of Bushido.
https://i.imgur.com/im49526.jpg
Good nuanced exploration of it. (https://g.co/kgs/Zh6piz)
alphys
05-30-2021, 02:13 PM
Is a strict caste system really that bad?
1. You lose out of human capital because even if initially the ideals for putting into place caste are good, over time will lead to stagnation and pruning of anyone "Quirky" until you are left with ritualistic automatons in flesh.
a. Without outliers of behavior and you will lose out of spontaneous genius and its repercussions leading to CLASSIC MEDIEVAL tech levels.
2. Humans are corruptible and thusly the " Merit " systems falls on its ass completely as it becomes again, an over-ritualized process much like the very fancy courts of kingdoms old. IE wearing shoes with the length of the toe is a direct relation to the level in court. (Goofy goober shit)
a. Communism self cannibalism for status and extra bread has been historically proven.
b. Old chinese and Japanese historical accounts during high periods of caste and Bushido are full of great examples of extreme brutality and cannibalism.
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 03:38 PM
I was reading Genesis 33 thru 35 and came across a startling revelation:
20 He put up an altar there and named it after El, the God of Israel.
Genesis 33:20 GNBDK
https://bible.com/bible/431/gen.33.20.GNBDK
1 God said to Jacob, “Go to Bethel at once, and live there. Build an altar there to me, the God who appeared to you when you were running away from your brother Esau.” 2 So Jacob said to his family and to all who were with him, “Get rid of the foreign gods that you have; purify yourselves and put on clean clothes. 3 We are going to leave here and go to Bethel, where I will build an altar to the God who helped me in the time of my trouble and who has been with me everywhere I have gone.” 7 He built an altar there and named the place after the God of Bethel, because God had revealed himself to him there when he was running away from his brother.
Genesis 35:1*-3*, 7 GNBDK
https://bible.com/bible/431/gen.35.1-7.GNBDK
And then:
Document TAD B7.3 (Cowley No. 44) is an oath text involved in a property dispute between two Jews, Menahem son of Shallum and Meshullam son of Nathan. Menahem swears by Herem-Bethel [text partially reconstructed] and Anat-Yaho (Yahweh) that he is half-owner of a certain she-donkey.
Gravydoo II
05-30-2021, 03:50 PM
1. You lose out of human capital because even if initially the ideals for putting into place caste are good, over time will lead to stagnation and pruning of anyone "Quirky" until you are left with ritualistic automatons in flesh.
a. Without outliers of behavior and you will lose out of spontaneous genius and its repercussions leading to CLASSIC MEDIEVAL tech levels.
2. Humans are corruptible and thusly the " Merit " systems falls on its ass completely as it becomes again, an over-ritualized process much like the very fancy courts of kingdoms old. IE wearing shoes with the length of the toe is a direct relation to the level in court. (Goofy goober shit)
a. Communism self cannibalism for status and extra bread has been historically proven.
b. Old chinese and Japanese historical accounts during high periods of caste and Bushido are full of great examples of extreme brutality and cannibalism.
For reals. Following laws for the sake of tradition is stupid. When they had a famine and people were like maybe lets go buy some from somewhere else? JAPAN IS CLOSED NO! TRADITION CANNOT BE CORRUPTED BY THE OUTSIDE! Then like 10% of the population died.
When that shit just isnt practical anymore, get rid of it.
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 04:22 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anat
Athena. This relates back to Atlantis, in West Africa before the great deluge. When Plato wrote of the history of Atlantis in Timmaeus and Critias there was interesting dialogue amongst one of the peoples Solon encountered west of Egypt, wherein he was told that Athens, like their city was founded by the Atlantean diety Athena and that they this shared a kinship with the Greeks.
This relates back to previous discussions in the Lent thread about the Phoenician founding of the Greek empire
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 05:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetylus
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Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 05:09 PM
22 The stone which the builders rejected as worthless turned out to be the most important of all.
Psalms 118:22 GNBDK
https://bible.com/bible/431/psa.118.22.GNBDK
Seek Christ
Pulgasari
05-30-2021, 05:19 PM
22 The stone which the builders rejected as worthless turned out to be the most important of all.
Psalms 118:22 GNBDK
https://bible.com/bible/431/psa.118.22.GNBDK
Seek Christ
gDWEcFqILoo
alphys
05-30-2021, 07:47 PM
So are we taking quotes from the flawed Jerome translation? I only follow the superior DIRECT Greek to English translation.
It always blows my mind away when you have a million different cultists all with different flawed translations all ex-communicating each other and playing " Look at how many souls I've collected! "
Patriam1066
05-30-2021, 08:31 PM
Uhh, just read the actual Greek. If you can’t you probably didn’t have two parents
Patriam1066
05-30-2021, 08:32 PM
You should know Greek, Latin, and linear equations by age 7
You guys really don’t understand why you’re poor. You can’t compete. There’s a reason why your CEOs are Hindu and your senators are Jewish. It’s because while you’re whining, we’re studying in the corner with our fathers waiting to beat us if we make less than a 97 on a test
alphys
05-30-2021, 09:16 PM
im retarded
Where's the soul? Is that the measure of your life? You are projecting because maybe your baseless father was always waiting to beat you? What if he had just hugged you?
You are very deep in cognitive dissonance and you have a faulty perspective on life. I really hope you haven't hit your kids yet.
Truth be told, you will never be good enough at anything, that is the human condition.
Pulgasari
05-30-2021, 09:32 PM
You should know Greek, Latin, and linear equations by age 7
You guys really don’t understand why you’re poor. You can’t compete. There’s a reason why your CEOs are Hindu and your senators are Jewish. It’s because while you’re whining, we’re studying in the corner with our fathers waiting to beat us if we make less than a 97 on a test
Dad wanted me to play sports instead of being a nerd. :(
starkind
05-30-2021, 09:36 PM
It takes a lot of discipline to solo level a wizard.
Starkind always suggests this as a starting point.
Gravydoo II
05-30-2021, 09:40 PM
Theres like 20,000 different versions of christianity. Im sure they are all correct and it has nothing to do with people carving a slice of the idiot flock off for themselves.
Patriam1066
05-30-2021, 09:49 PM
No one will change your circumstances for you. I’m sorry someone telling you be men makes you think I “lack soul.” I am 56 years old and have more experience than most of you, and in my experience, no one has ever handed me anything. I’ve had to earn it. The sooner you guys realize you’ll have to earn it as well, the better off you’ll be
Doesn’t mean it isn’t harder for you, or that starter homes aren’t even more expensive than they were in my day. That simply means your excuses are even more futile and you have even less time to waste
Hit the books and the weight bench, or continue to wallow in your own ineptitude. It’s lonely at the top, I’ll have a beer ready for you in Valhalla
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 09:56 PM
The Septuagint, in this scenario, says the same thing.
Gen 33:20 in the Koine states Jacob set up an alter and called upon the God of Israel.
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Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 10:10 PM
Contrarily in Gen 35:7, in the Koine Greek, Jacob sets up a new altar, to the God he wrestled with after resting his head upon a stone in Pineal, and refers to the entity as the God of Bethel.
This is not the same diety as Yahweh.14971
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alphys
05-30-2021, 10:14 PM
pay attention to me
What the hell are you even talking about? You just keep spouting random bullet points about your superiority. Its OK to get old and start to see the flame dwindling. You on the other hand are trying to shit all over people on an elf simulator forum like your king diarrea. We are all shit here your majesty! (illegitimate to the throne, I am king shitlord)
To even touch on that shit. What? You cant even compare living decade to decade let alone 30+ years of a difference. Its much too large of a topic. Just don't even fucking try to compare the analog word to the digital. BOOTSTRAPS MY LAZY FAT UNEDUCATED RETARDS JUST PULL EM UP!!
Lets not even take into consideration the EXTREME NEPOTISM your chosen demographics exhibit with their tribal mentalities.
Self help is a retarded mantra, you literally have to RIP someone away from their chosen torment.
Baler
05-30-2021, 10:14 PM
Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 10:19 PM
It takes a lot of discipline to solo level a wizard.
Starkind always suggests this as a starting point.
Starkind is most sagacious in this response.
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 10:29 PM
Notice this repeat incidence of anointing the Baetyl stones with oil, and cross reference this with Mary's actions in John 12, and Mark 14, where Christ, the cornerstone, is anointed with oil (pure nard; a rather lavish oil of the time)
I learned that in sea of thieves, one way to turn the ship around is to cut the wheel then drop the anchor. Its a badass move every time
Baler
05-30-2021, 10:36 PM
I'm eating two big smoked pulled pork on fresh buns with sauce and coleslaw on it.
100% worth waiting all day for. Discipline.
Tunabros
05-30-2021, 10:53 PM
didnt read the whole thread
but 100% smells like drugs in here
Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 10:54 PM
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Gwaihir
05-30-2021, 10:56 PM
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.escholar.manchester.ac.uk/api/datastream%3FpublicationPid%3Duk-ac-man-scw:1m1114%26datastreamId%3DPOST-PEER-REVIEW-PUBLISHERS-DOCUMENT.PDF&ved=2ahUKEwiEruzL9fLwAhVStZ4KHecWAUEQFjAKegQIDRAC&usg=AOvVaw13bp1kVpWtWraMDAA1YDhz&cshid=1622429704608
Baler
05-30-2021, 10:58 PM
I'm just saying swine is a gross animal that will eat anything.
But slow smoke it all day and slather it in sauce all chopped up.
finger licking good.
Pulgasari
05-31-2021, 12:11 AM
Is a strict caste system really that bad?
https://i.imgur.com/BH0GpGF.jpg
starkind
05-31-2021, 08:25 AM
I'm eating two big smoked pulled pork on fresh buns with sauce and coleslaw on it.
100% worth waiting all day for. Discipline.
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