Monk vs. Shammy Twinkage

[Cover7]

If you had funds to fully kit (I do mean fully) one of the two classes going into Velious which would it be and why?

[Stepper]

Shammy, because I have no friends.

[Rang]

depends on your style of play really - very different playstyles at 50+ shammy epic is much harder to come by.

for 1-50 - with a fungi and decent weap either class can efficiently solo

[Cover7]

Why do you say Shammy epic is harder to come by? I am far from expert on either epic, but it looked like Shammy was pretty much faction grind and the tear? In my mind I actually had it reversed and viewed Shammy as easily obtainable.

[Old_PVP]

I would go with shaman. They are good in every scenario. Solo, Group, Raid. They can also generate money with very little effort through alchemy.

[Twochain]

Depends on what you want out of velious.

If you're raiding? Monk 100%. Velious geared monk is the best melee toon. Period.

Anything else... it's a toss up.

Both epics are very easy/can be MQ'd. Monk is probably easier to buy/get MQ'd as i'm sure on green there are still a lot of main shamans looking to get a tear.

Shamans certainly solo better......... but not until level 60. (A best in slot gharns/abashi monk can probably solo most things almost as good as a shaman, but that's not really feasible 6 months into velious unless you are a top DKP raider- Also gharns didn't drop on blue until like over a year after velious dropped so there's that)

Monks imo are a lot more fun to level. ESPECIALLY 1-45. An iksar monk with fungi/cof/t-staff is an absolute beast at soloing until the 50s. And even then, it's good, just not solo 4 blue guards in HHK at the same time good.

Good luck :)

[Rang]

Why do you say Shammy epic is harder to come by? I am far from expert on either epic, but it looked like Shammy was pretty much faction grind and the tear? In my mind I actually had it reversed and viewed Shammy as easily obtainable.

shammy epic is a faction grind but you need the iksar tear from the iksar child in plane of fear is a hotly contested guild item (usually goes dkp) and they MQ for far greater price than monk epic MQ

monk epic most pieces are 1 groupable really - last mob xeno is pretty much 1 groupable if you have good enough gear

again - play style is key. shamans are casters and buffers - monks are expected to pull so that can be a big pro or a big con

[Keebz]

Monk if you like raiding, play making or at the very least pulling.

Shaman if you like soloing, farming or dungeon crawling.

If you don't want to raid on the monk or you just want to show up and auto-attack, it's kind of a waste imho, but you will have a blast soloing 1-54 or so.

Meanwhile, Shaman won't really pick up until the later levels, but is super powerful once it does.

[BlackBellamy]

Shaman is going to cost twice if not three times the monk. This is not the right fantasy comparison.

[Cover7]

a) it is not fantasy, either one of the classes could be decked out. Just asking which one people would do and why.

b) Understood shammy will be more expensive in long run.

Anything MAJOR outside of GFG, Fungi, JBB, Epic Tear, and Torp that I am missing?

[Jimjam]

A huge portion of the funds for shaman is for their 45+ bracer, 46+ epic and 60 spells.

Whereas a monks twinkage will be working hard from level 1. Monk can even do a partial epic for some click haste to tide them over til 46.

So monk twink is better for levelling. As previously posted monk is better for raiding too.

The shaman is good to farm big name cash camps but if you have the funds to fully twink a shaman funds don’t seem to be a problem for you.

Unless your heart is set on playing a shaman the monk seems better.

[Cover7]

Funding depends on my ability to (shameless plug) sell a White Dragon Scale on Green.

What would leveling speed look like in comparison to the two up to say the 45 range. With Fungi and GFG could a Shammy get to that tier almost as fast as a monk or will monk blow it away?

[Jibartik]

Id go with the monk.

gearing a character in velious (which sounds like what you're looking to do) for both these types requires raiding.

Therefore youll be raiding a lot!

I think a monk is definitely more fun and rewarding to bring to a raid!

Ive wanted to chime in here because both classes are awesome for similar reasons.