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Polixa
05-20-2021, 02:57 PM
Suppose another player agrees to help you transfer an item, something really big-ticket (50kpp+), and they don't follow through?
Would customer support drop everything to help you out or would you be s.o.l. ?
I always drop transfer but thinking maybe I'm being too paranoid. I know standard advice is to choose a L60 with a big-name guild but still...
UrkTheSlayer
05-20-2021, 03:20 PM
Pretty sure one of the things they take most seriously is players defrauding eachother. Just get screenshots of “/tell friend will you transfer some items for me /tellsyou sure np” if you’re worried.
UrkTheSlayer
05-20-2021, 03:21 PM
Remember what zone you gave them the gear in. I recently learned a lot of stuff is logged on the zones, dunno about trades but just in case.
starkind
05-20-2021, 03:33 PM
Just get a wife.
Polixa
05-20-2021, 03:45 PM
Thanks Urk!
Starkind - lol
Gustoo
05-20-2021, 04:21 PM
Just get a wife.
qft
As Jawnie my blue casino guy from better pre red days I transferred a rod of annihilation to some guy, but traditionally CSR would tell you to get fukt. Despite complains staff here would probably help you out.
Truth be told I'm an honest john and drop transfer in places with no wandering NPC's and its really easy to find zero pop zones for hours on end in red so its no prob.
Tunabros
05-20-2021, 04:22 PM
ignore "starkind"
she's a loser who still plays on red and trolls people
Mblake1981
05-20-2021, 04:41 PM
Suppose another player agrees to help you transfer an item, something really big-ticket (50kpp+), and they don't follow through?
Would customer support drop everything to help you out or would you be s.o.l. ?
I always drop transfer but thinking maybe I'm being too paranoid. I know standard advice is to choose a L60 with a big-name guild but still...
1. No, not at all. Your actions.
2. SOL
3. People have been ground transferring for 20 years.
It will get exciting when you switch characters and get disconnected, and have to restart the game..
oh yeah, remember that feeling? it's called being alive. :o
Jimjam
05-20-2021, 04:46 PM
ignore "starkind"
she's a loser who still plays on red and trolls people
Making posts like these really aren’t a good look. Posters can decide who to ignore for them selves. Sure, many of us were kids in 1999, but play ground queen bees meddling to create in and out groups is one era appropriate thing we can do without.
UrkTheSlayer
05-20-2021, 05:02 PM
Here op, I did some lawyering and found you this:
“
11. You may not defraud other players.
Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense. Examples of this activity include, but are not limited to, using deception to deprive another player of items, slandering another player or impersonating them with the intention of causing harm to that player's reputation, or falsely representing one's identity in order to gain access to another player's account or account information.
Fraud in all transactions between players may result in disciplinary action when confirmed by a P99CSR.
This is not permission to not watch out for yourself during interactions with players. Players may still scam or defraud you on Project 1999. It is your responsibility to protect yourself. The player who scammed you may be subject to disciplinary action, but there is no guarantee you will get your items or PP back. It is in your best interest to be wary of other players.
You are responsible for the people you let onto your account. Disciplinary action may be enacted upon your account even if you yourself were not responsible for any rule breaking. Do not share account info if you are not ready to deal with the consequences of someone else's actions.
“
strongNpretty
05-20-2021, 05:16 PM
ignore "starkind"
she's a loser who still plays on red and trolls people
Seriously, what happened to you? You're negative as fuck these days man...
UrkTheSlayer
05-20-2021, 05:30 PM
Seriously, what happened to you? You're negative as fuck these days man...
Too much green, come play red tuna
reznor_
05-20-2021, 05:38 PM
Just keep an OBS buffer running and if you get defrauded, you have extra evidence.
Tunabros
05-20-2021, 05:44 PM
Seriously, what happened to you? You're negative as fuck these days man...
i don't know
life just sucks right now
starkind
05-20-2021, 06:29 PM
Tunas right. I deserve it. I did a fair bit of trollin . Anyway. Wishing you all the best. I'll climb outa your arse now!
UrkTheSlayer
05-20-2021, 09:19 PM
Op, don’t expect the gms to search the logs over a 2k sword or something. I’m sure if you’re respectful and it’s a 50k item they’ll atleast try to help you out. Again, remember the time and zone of the trade to make their job easier if they get around to you.
Tuna, trick is to not think about the sucks unless it’s out of respect for adversary, just focus on what you can do to make it better and do it- and get the reward trigger of accomplishment. It can be as easy as cleaning all the dish’s and saying “hell yeah, I did something and it’s better here”.
ScottBerta
05-21-2021, 12:46 AM
I have never had a problem passing items and pp. Arleigh I use the most but if he isn’t on I use any 60 or high level in a major guild. Never once had a problem.
UrkTheSlayer
05-21-2021, 09:36 PM
I don’t think item transfers with other players is dangerous on p99 and I have confidence when I say this. It’s one of the aspects of classic that I’m stoked is non existent. Idk if it’s because the classic player base has matured in 30 years(thank god) or that it’s policy enforced.
The real question is, how did you acquire a 50k item yet have no friends you can trust to transfer stuff for you?
UrkTheSlayer
05-21-2021, 09:46 PM
I’m not trying to accuse you of RMT, but ultimately I’m kinda hinting at the possibility.
Normally by the time you can acquire a 50k item a handful of people have your login info... just saying. Sharing accounts is not against policy, but RMT is- aside from being heavily frowned upon by the community.
I’m going to ask you straight up, did you eBay a fungi and now that your lvl 25 ranger has almost outgrown it do you want to make an sk?
UrkTheSlayer
05-21-2021, 10:01 PM
If you’re respectful and gms search logs for your fungi that you actually RMT’d, expect a lot more extra help then I previously mentioned.
In fact, if any of my rmt accusations are true I’ve already dry snitched on you here on these forums- if your station account was registered to this this forum account and either has traded RMT’d items you can expect help from GM’s.
I think the only thing gms take more seriously then defrauding other players is players trying to make a dime off their hard work.
UrkTheSlayer
05-21-2021, 10:10 PM
As the consumer, you’re not making the dime: however you’re driving the market that people are trying to make money off a project that the devs and gms do for free.
UrkTheSlayer
05-21-2021, 10:11 PM
And you’re fucking up the in game economy and camps.
Polixa
05-22-2021, 02:29 AM
Thanks Urk for the numerous replies!
Assuming your comments in the past couple of posts were aimed at me (OP) I have no friends/family who play P99, that's all.
As for 50k items, it's just a matter of time. By the time my shaman soloed to mid 50s I had 68kpp banked just vendoring drops. Then I blew it all on twink items which until now, as I said, I have been drop transferring.
UrkTheSlayer
05-22-2021, 02:56 AM
Thanks Urk for the numerous replies!
Assuming your comments in the past couple of posts were aimed at me (OP) I have no friends/family who play P99, that's all.
As for 50k items, it's just a matter of time. By the time my shaman soloed to mid 50s I had 68kpp banked just vendoring drops. Then I blew it all on twink items which until now, as I said, I have been drop transferring.
Sure hope so. I apologize for my accusations of false.
UrkTheSlayer
05-22-2021, 03:01 AM
I soloed a rogue from 50-55 like 6 or 7 times way back and I didn’t have much more then about 30k and prices from back then match up the the blue prices being 2k fbss and 50k fungi. I’m sure shamans can solo better plat camps then a rogue with broken gear.
Tethler
05-22-2021, 03:17 AM
I've had random people help me transfer dozens of times. Just look for someone with a guild tag (there are usually repercussions in a guild if someone is a thief) and who isn't naked (naked toons are often mules), jot their name down just in case, and do the trade. Have never had anyone steal my stuff when I've followed those rules.
If you ask some naked level 1, you're gambling.
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